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antimatter98 Donating Member (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 01:08 PM
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India lands moon probe -- for your consideration
Source: BBC

India lands unmanned probe on the Moon.

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7730157.stm




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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 01:15 PM
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1. Good for them!
:applause:
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 01:23 PM
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2. Next thing, they'll be opening a call center there. nt
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 03:16 PM
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21. .....
:rofl:
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 03:34 PM
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24. Either that or a 7-11 n/t
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ChromeFoundry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 03:42 PM
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27. Would you like a ....

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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 01:26 PM
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3. Maybe something got lost in translation
I think the picture of the CHANDRAYAAN 1 is actually a food dispenser.

Press :
1 for chicken tikka marsala
2 for lamb rogan josh
3 for chicken korma
4 for eggfried rice
5 for onion bhajees
6 for sag alloo
7 for nan bread
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TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 03:50 PM
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30. Jeez they have taken over the Space Highway Rest Area market
Serving CTM and other goodies for the Inter Galactic hitch hikers ...
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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 01:28 PM
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4. Nice.
The only way more space exploration will get done is if more countries join in. There's no way America can do it alone, especially considering we're retiring the shuttles and not replacing them.
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Gullvann Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 01:40 PM
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7. BTW: Has Obama ever talked about
his vision for the space program?

I guess in these economic times it is not quite the thing that is first on the agenda...
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 04:19 PM
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35. Yes, he has
http://www.space.com/news/081110-sn-obama-nasa-decision.html

As U.S. President-elect Barack Obama prepares to take office in January, he does so having offered more specifics about his plans for NASA than any U.S. presidential candidate in history.

First and foremost, Obama pledged during the closing months of the campaign to add $2 billion to the U.S. space agency's budget to narrow the gap between the space shuttle's retirement and the first flight of its successor.

The pledge, which he made for the first time in August and repeated in recent weeks as he and his Republican opponent Sen. John McCain of Arizona, courted Space Coast voters in the swing state of Florida, was a far cry from Obama's first public position on the U.S. space program.

Obama gave NASA's Orion and Ares contractors plenty of cause for concern in November 2007 when he proposed paying for an $18 billion education plan in part by "delaying the NASA Constellation Program for five years." By January, however, Obama's space policy had evolved. The campaign released a position paper pledging Obama's support for completing the International Space Station, retiring the space shuttle and replacing it with Orion and Ares sooner than later. The move put Obama's space policy in synch with the exploration blueprint unveiled four years earlier by President George Bush and subsequently endorsed by Congress.

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Gullvann Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 07:14 PM
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39. Thank you.
My two first memories of the United States was the Space Shuttle, and sitting up with my dad all night watching the elections in 1979.
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sledgehammer Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 01:55 PM
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8. Time to refocus
The recent lack of attention paid by the US to space, science, etc. is really sad. We need to get back in the lead. Whether on our own or with others. I have been impressed with the Mars missions though, so I guess it's not been all bad (but I think those initiatives were established well before this administration).

Thankfully Obama will work to fund stem cell research, which will give a boost to biotech innovation. Not sure what his view on space exploration is. I hope he's in favor of expanding it. The war on science needs to end. The religious right's efforts to take us back to Biblical days better stop asap.

But well done India - this is a major accomplishment and a sign of things to come. Maybe the competition from India, China, etc. will spur us on.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 02:07 PM
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11. NASA has traditionally been The Vice President's sanbox to play in.
Edited on Fri Nov-14-08 02:08 PM by IanDB1
I expect MBNA to open a branch on Lunae Planum in a couple years.

India's just setting-up the Call Center today.
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 01:34 PM
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5. Pakistan will go nuts now
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clspector Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 01:35 PM
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6. In all fairness,
that's not a far trip these days.
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sledgehammer Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 02:00 PM
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10. Not really...
I think Pakistan has finally accepted that it doesn't compete with India technologically anymore. And this is certainly not a security threat. India doesn't need space exploration to challenge Pakistan - conventional and nuclear weaponry is enough. Pakistanis are probably quite impressed with India on this.

Pakistan's relations with India have actually improved a lot. Even the Kashmir issue is on the backburner. India's biggest concern with Pakistan is the religious extremism from Pakistan spreading over into India, which even India truly realizes is not funded by the govt of Pakistan (though they do believe the Army is somewhat involved). Pakistan's biggest concern is India's growing relationship with Iran and Afghanistan, which threatens to isolate Pakistan.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 02:17 PM
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13. Pakistan doesn't care about this stuff
their rivalry with India is all about religion . on other stuff they tend to view themselves as being part of india. the movie industry is one example.
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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 02:32 PM
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17. Pakistan is already nuts, has always been ... n/t
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 02:00 PM
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9. I wonder if the aliens
are still there, mining the moon.
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zehnkatzen Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 02:08 PM
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12. We Should Have Had a Moonbase up there by now, though.
Not to take away from India or anyone else, but back in the 70s it looked like we'd be building a city up there Any Day Now.

We can make a coffee that can put you to sleep, but we can't send a man to the moon. *sigh*.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 03:13 PM
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20. We should never have scrapped Apollo
Or we should have followed it up with http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/nova.htm">Nova or something equivalent.

Sure, the shuttle was "reusable" but actually not very efficient. Launching all that mass into LEO only to have to return 80% to Earth ten days later, netting a 20% payload. How many launches (US and Russian) has it taken to assemble the ISS? Fifty, sixty? That's insanity. The Saturn V could have tossed up that much mass in three launches for far less cost.

http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/nova.htm">
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 02:20 PM
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14. I just heard a report on NPR about this...the probe will analyze
the moon's atmosphere? Um, what? The moon has an atmosphere?
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Gullvann Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 02:29 PM
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15. The atmosphere of the Moon is very tenuous
and insignificant in comparison with that of the Earth. One source of the lunar atmosphere is outgassing: the release of gases such as radon that originate from radioactive decay within the crust and mantle. Another important source is the bombardment of the lunar surface by micrometeorites, the solar wind, and sunlight, in a process known as sputtering.

Thanks to wikipedia :-)
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 03:40 PM
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25. Ah, thanks
Who knew? :shrug:
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TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 02:34 PM
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18. it has a very tenous atmosphere according the bbc website. Just like my bank balance ..
Edited on Fri Nov-14-08 02:34 PM by TheCoxwain
:rofl:
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 03:42 PM
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26. Heh...mine too.
:fistbump:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 02:31 PM
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16. OH, NOES!!! Now they're taking the moon too!
Edited on Fri Nov-14-08 02:32 PM by treestar
Those damn H-1Bs!!!! Next we'll be outsourcing astronauts!

:sarcasm:
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 03:19 PM
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23. And hopefully lawyers!!!
:rofl:
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Azlady Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 04:20 PM
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36. don't forget the bill collections!
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 02:37 PM
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19. I guess the Indians know the difference between
Metric and Imperial units.


Why are we still using the Imperial units and not Metric? I think it's a plot to keep America stupid and uncompetitive.
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 03:46 PM
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29. I remember being taught metrics in school because
metrics was the way of the future. We were all going to be using metrics in the future, so they were preparing us. What happened. It's like metrics never existed :shrug:
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Gullvann Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 03:58 PM
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31. I went to school in Colorado.
We all used metrics.

Off course, we actually did calculate satellite orbits so it helped :-P
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sledgehammer Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 04:55 PM
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37. Interesting...
I wonder if any one state will take the lead and set a date to require the exclusive use of the metric system throughout education, business, and living. Maybe other states would follow.
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Gullvann Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 06:15 PM
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38. This was in an Space Engineering course at CU though
At that level, it pretty much is all metric :-)
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 04:11 AM
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41. We were metric system in 84
I was 1n Aerospace Engineering.
Of course we learned the old units and had to sweat through problems with them.
They also appeared in older text and reference books.
Most of the time I would convert to MKS do my calculations and then convert back to old units.

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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 04:01 PM
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34. You're pretty much the last holdouts
We're metric in Canada and everybody functions fine. For some wierd reason, the Safeway store marks the fruit in metric and Imperial.

The only other thing that's still in Imperial is aircraft navigation.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 03:17 PM
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22. Good thing they went when it was full! Imagine trying to land it if the moon
were just a crescent...or less! Phew!
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Gullvann Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 03:59 PM
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32. Funny :-)
Never heard that moon joke before.

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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 03:42 PM
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28. Good for them!
That's exciting news
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 10:54 PM
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40. talk about out-sourcing!
and you all thought it was tough getting thru to customer service before...
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 04:13 AM
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42. Well done
Both the orbiter and the hard lander.
Id rather we had kept our momentum in space.
I'm relieved someone is picking up the slack.
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