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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 05:11 PM
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Looking for good science studies regarding aspartame.
Hi all, I am posting this here rather than "health" since I am looking for decent studies on aspartame. Preferable double blind peer reviewed. Strongly preferred.

I am not looking for info about Monsanto or general on aspartame, as I have heard most of it and have my own opinions which are not looking to change. Just seeking real info, scientific info.

I hope this makes sense.

I found a Migraine study, Walton's study, Sorrfitti's study, and searched http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed/

I looking for other scientific studies, if they are out there. Thank you.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 05:13 PM
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1. I don't know about any actual studies but here is my experience
A big ugly ulcer.

I was drinking 3 - 4 cans of diet soda a day until I was diagnosed with an ulcer. I have stopped drinking soda altogether and no more problems.

That is just a personal experience.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 05:21 PM
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2. My personal experience was figuring out what caused periodic severe headaches.
Finally traced it to the type of soda I drank on different days. "officially" there are no headaches from aspartame.

Lots of personal stories, have heard lots of them myself. Monsanto made aspartame, just found this out. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I really distrust Monsanto.

But, seeking double blind peer reviewed studies for a friend.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 05:21 PM
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3. Here's a few things:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 05:30 PM
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4. Thank you, that is what I'm looking for. nt
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 05:36 PM
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6. And for what it's worth -
I have come to conclusion that artificial sweeteners, especially aspartame, should not be ingested on a regular basis. If I want something sweet, I use sugar and I don't drink soda. :hi:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 05:36 PM
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5. It's safe.
Crit. Rev. Toxicol., 37(8), 2007, 629-727

Quoting from the abstract:

"Critical review of all carcinogenicity studies conducted on aspartame found no credible evidence that aspartame is carcinogenic. The data from the extensive investigations into the possibility of neurotoxic effects of aspartame, in general, do not support the hypothesis that aspartame in the human diet will affect nervous system function, learning or behavior. Epidemiological studies on aspartame include several case-control studies and one well-conducted prospective epidemiological study with a large cohort, in which the consumption of aspartame was measured. The studies provide no evidence to support an association between aspartame and cancer in any tissue. The weight of existing evidence is that aspartame is safe at current levels of consumption as a nonnutritive sweetener."
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 06:36 PM
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9. Is that abstract from link in OP or another? thanks.
Edited on Mon Nov-24-08 06:46 PM by uppityperson
Lots of info, lots of misinformation, little true scientific studies to be found. Stuff gives me a headache, even though studies show it isn't true. Lots of personal stories.

Edited for typo.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 06:38 PM
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10. You can find it at PubMed, yes.
"Lots of info, lots of misinformation, little true scientific studies to be found."

There are plenty of true scientific studies. And they show conclusively that it's safe.

"Lots of personal storied."

There are lots of stories about alien abductions and anal probing. Here in the Science forum we deal with science, not anecdotal evidence.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 06:45 PM
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11. that is why I am posting it here. Looking for science.
Edited on Mon Nov-24-08 06:48 PM by uppityperson
I can find lots of anecdotes in Health, GD, etc.

Edited to add, I looked at your reply again and am off to see what I can find. 2007 is a more recent yr than most of what I've found, thanks.
Crit. Rev. Toxicol., 37(8), 2007, 629-727
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 05:37 PM
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7. Here's a Podcast about Aspartame
Skeptoid--The Truth about Aspartame

Apparently there's a bunch of misinformation about it on the Net. Brian Dunning, the Podcast host, is a skeptic (not to be confused with cynic). The citations at the link will probably help you.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 05:47 PM
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8. Input from a neurosurgeon for what it's worth. Snopes says no....
http://www.bolenreport.net/feature_articles/feature_article062.htm


“Controversy has surrounded a claim that aspartame may produce an MS-like syndrome. A current review of recent peer-reviewed scientific studies has disclosed a pathophysiological mechanism to explain this connection. As far back as 1996 it was shown that the lesions produced in the myelin sheath of axons in cases of multiple sclerosis were related to excitatory receptors on the primary cells involved called oligodendroglia. Recent studies have now confirmed what was suspected back then. The loss of myelin sheath on the nerve fibers characteristic of the disease are due to the death of these oligodendroglial cells at the site of the lesions (called plaques). Further, these studies have shown that the death of these important cells is as a result of excessive exposure to excitotoxins at the site of the lesions.

”Normally, most of these excitotoxins are secreted from microglial immune cells in the central nervous system. This not only destroys these myelin-producing cells it also breaks down the blood-brain barrier (BBB), allowing excitotoxins in the blood stream to enter the site of damage. Aspartame contains the excitotoxin aspartate as 40% of its molecular structure. Numerous studies have shown that consuming aspartame can significantly elevate the excitotoxin level in the blood. There is a common situation during which the excitotoxin exposure is even greater. When aspartate (as aspartame) is combined in the diet with monosodium glutamate (MSG) blood levels are several fold higher than normal. With the BBB damaged, as in MS, these excitotoxins can freely enter the site of injury, greatly magnifying the damage. So, we see that dietary excitotoxins, such as aspartame and MSG, can greatly magnify the damage produced in multiple sclerosis. Likewise, excitotoxins have been shown to breakdown the Blood Brain Barrier as well.

”Of equal concern is observation that we know that about 10% of the population (based on autopsy studies of elderly) have MS lesions without ever developing the full blown disease, a condition called benign MS. A diet high in excitotoxins, such as aspartame, can convert this benign, subclinical condition into full-blown clinical MS. The amount of excitotoxins consumed in the average American diet is considerable, as shown by several studies. In addition, the toxin methanol is also in the aspartame molecule. Methanol is an axon poison. Combined toxicity of the aspartate and the methanol adds up to considerable brain toxicity and can convert benign, subclinical MS into full-blown MS. Once the MS becomes full-blown, further consumption of excitotoxins magnifies the toxicity, increasing disability and death.

”Recent studies have also shown that even single exposures to these food-based excitotoxins can produce prolonged worsening of neurological lesions. In addition, it has been demonstrated that autoimmune reactions (as occurs with MS) greatly magnifies the toxicity of aspartate and glutamate (the excitotoxins). We also know liquid forms of excitotoxins are significantly more toxic because of rapid absorption and higher blood levels. In the face of this connection between excitotoxicity and the pathophysiology of MS, it would be ludicrous to allow further use of this excitotoxin containing sweetener..

“The possible mechanisms include formaldehyde-induced protein changes and increased leukotrienes, 15-hydroxyeicosatetraenoic acid, and other arachidonic acid metabolites after the exposure of macrophages to aspartame (Hardcastle l997)."
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