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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 11:53 PM
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again, UFO-whatever
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 12:06 AM
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1. I don't know what the hell they are.
Maybe we're living in a 'Truman' scenario and reality isn't quite what it seems. I worked for an org for 3 years that studied UFO sightings and cattle mutilations and am more clueless now than I was before I worked there. I met Edgar Mitchell (the guy in the interview) several times because he was on our board which met 4 times a year. He was an extremely nice man, and not a nut.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 12:10 AM
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2. Re Mitchell. Agreed. n/t
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 11:55 AM
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3. I'll say what I always say....when are we going to get our UFO forum?
The "Skeptics" have they're own forum...so why not the other side?
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 10:30 PM
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4. They're pumping the Roswell aniversay this week to fill up airtime
I almost miss the election.
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 07:37 AM
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5. Disclosure Project
The Disclosure Project is a nonprofit research project working to fully disclose the facts about UFOs, extraterrestrial intelligence, and classified advanced energy and propulsion systems. We have over 400 government, military, and intelligence community witnesses testifying to their direct, personal, first hand experience with UFOs, ETs, ET technology, and the cover-up that keeps this information secret.

On Wednesday, May 9th, 2001, over twenty military, intelligence, government, corporate and scientific witnesses came forward at the National Press Club in Washington, DC to establish the reality of UFOs or extraterrestrial vehicles, extraterrestrial life forms, and resulting advanced energy and propulsion technologies. The weight of this first-hand testimony, along with supporting government documentation and other evidence, will establish without any doubt the reality of these phenomena.


http://www.disclosureproject.org/
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 05:18 PM
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6. people saying 'Impossible!' should View This Press Conference
Edited on Wed Nov-26-08 05:19 PM by Duppers
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1166743665260900218

Watch the full video then tell us how full of woo-woo we are.

I think the religious public cannot accept the fact that we're not alone, nor central to the universe.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 07:14 PM
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7. Light-year.
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 03:14 PM
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8. There were actually several congressmen about to start some kind of an inquiry
or serious investigation into UFOs when that Disclosure Project conference was held. After the crazy testimony of Clifford Stone and over-the-top claims buy Steven Greer, those congresspeople completely dropped the idea. That press conference did more harm than good. It mixed credible testimony with batshit lies from people like Stone.
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 06:23 PM
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12. I agree about Stone being a nutcase.
I think Greer has been duped in some cases; even he admits that is possible.
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 01:23 AM
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13. yep, the batshizzles ruin every one's credibility.
:grr:

Perhaps we'll discover 'the truth' some day.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 04:02 PM
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9. 7 years later...
and the disclosure project still looks like a great way to part fools from money. I'm an atheist, by the way. I had hopes for the disclosure project, but have come to the conclusion that it's more about marketing than informing the public. It's not like they couldn't find financial support for an open-source approach; after all, SETI@home has plenty of interested participants and breaks even financially.
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 04:17 PM
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10. I think most intelligent people realize
a. we are not alone
b. we are not central to the universe

Where most of us have pause is the idea that given the immense knowledge, power, and advances required to visit another planet (likely meaning some form of real or apparent FTL propulsion), why would aliens:

1. visit here in the first place
2. be completely unable to cloak or otherwise hide their activities
3. be unable to "abduct" someone without them remembering large sections of it
4. need to continually abduct people when a small sample of DNA would be more than enough
5. have ships that look like a misreported sighting from the late 40s (i.e. the well known wrong report of them being "saucer shaped" instead of the accurate quote that they skipped "like saucers"). What did the aliens all change the shape of their crafts to match the misquote?

Do aliens exist? I'd say there is a 99.99999 chance the answer is yes. Are they abducting Bubba or mutilating Bubba's cows, or buzzing around Gate 27 at Chicago O'Hare for kicks?

Highly, highly unlikely.
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 05:14 PM
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11. Stop being
rational and logical, and trying to separate the facts from mere conjecture.
You'll ruin the fun :-)
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:42 AM
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15. hey now
I am more than willing to believe it's possible aliens visit our planet, but if they DO, I have to believe they are more than advanced enough that we would never ever know it.

Barring, you know, like a, ummm, warp-core breach or crack in the dilithium crystals or something. ;)
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:34 AM
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14. Great post.
You narrow minded skeptic you....;)
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