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LongTomH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 12:48 PM
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When a star eats its own
A few days ago, Phil Plait of Bad Astronomy fame, posted an article about a very unusual star. The image shown below is a combination of an optical image from the Lick Observatory and the orbiting Chandra X-Ray Observatory:



Note the jets (in green) streaming away from the central star. Those are usually found in young, rapidly spinning stars. Only problem, the star in question, BP Piscium, is an old, red giant. Interesting conundrum; the solution is fascinating.

Main-sequence stars, including our sun, become red giants as the age. As they become red giants, they expand; in the process they may engulf their own, close-orbiting planets. Now imagine that happening with a 'hot Jupiter,' a gas giant planet orbiting near its primary. That seems to be what's happening with BP Psc, producing the rapid rotation which produces the jets.

When a star expands, its rotation slows too. The usual example is of a figure skater who can increase their rate of spin by drawing in their hands — you’ve seen it many times, no doubt. The opposite is true as well: if you spin rapidly, you can open up your arms to slow down. Stars do the same thing: a star like the Sun that takes once per month to spin now might take years to rotate once around when it becomes a red giant.

Now imagine a big planet like Jupiter (or a very small red dwarf star) orbiting close in to a star like that. It may orbit the star in a matter of days or weeks, and remember the star itself rotates far more slowly than that. When it expands and swallows up that planet, the planet won’t just vaporize; it can take years for it to totally be destroyed. And during that time it’s orbiting inside the star! A star is just gas, and when it becomes a red giant it gets big and its density drops even more. As bizarre as it sounds, something much denser like a planet can orbit inside a red giant for some time.

So the planet is inside the star, mixing it up like a whisk in a bowl of batter. This can cause all sorts of havoc, including making the star to expel material along its equator to form a disk. A lot of that matter might be from the companion itself, broken up in the chaotic process.

Fantastic stuff! Now, who was it who said: "The universe is not only stranger than we imagine. It's probably stranger than we can imagine!"
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 12:50 PM
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1. I thought this was going to be a Sarah Palin thread.
:)
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 12:55 PM
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2. Simply awesome.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 12:59 PM
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3. This is a description of the real "end of times" for planet Earth. nt
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 10:05 PM
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5. Yup. The Earth will end up in the outer layers of the dying Sun.
Oh, but what a way to go! :)
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Phlem Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 01:24 PM
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4. Are those redshift stars in the background?
total amateur asking a simple question, I've just never seen a good image of red shifting stars amongst the rest of the universe.

-p
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 10:08 PM
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7. No, it's the artificial colorization of X-ray sources.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 10:07 PM
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6. Very cool!
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 07:50 AM
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8. Wouldn't orbiting within a star be tough on life as we know it?
Think of the demand for sunscreen!
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 10:14 AM
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9. 2 candidates for the phrase:
JBS Haldane, evolutionary biologist:

I have no doubt that in reality the future will be vastly more surprising than anything I can imagine. Now my own suspicion is that the Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose.

Possible Worlds and Other Papers (1927), p. 286

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/J._B._S._Haldane


Or perhaps Arthur Eddington, astronomer (the man who did the first experimental confirmation of Einstein's General Theory of Relativity, observing light bending around the Sun during an eclipse). But no date can be set on when he said or wrote it.
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