Ouija boards...

[murielm99]

Maybe I should have stayed away from this thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x9021340

[northernlights]

1. when I was 13 my cousin and I were playing with the ouija

and it said that I had a bay gelding who would be killed in the middle of the day in the middle of the week in the middle of September. I had a mare, not a gelding. She didn't die that September or the next. I blew it off. We gave her away to retire, and I got a new horse.

When I was 16, my bay gelding broke his leg (in a suspicious accident) right before I left for college. After refusing to help me with trying to get vet care, after I was sent off to school my father got him into New Bolton, where he was examined and put down. A year or so later, I found the letter they'd sent to my father. He was euthanized on a Wednesday, September 17. I don't know what time.

I don't think it's the board itself, or magic spirits. I think that we have the capacity to see a bit ahead, just like looking in the far distance, and the board gives us a way to articulate what we see.

[crikkett]

4. Hi northernlights!

Did your area dry up?

I've read speculation recently about how quantum theory doesn't say that time can only run in one direction, and perhaps the problem is that we simply don't remember the future ('quantum amnesia'). So perhaps premonition is actually a memory of future events.

Here's the link to the story: http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327234.700-quantum-amnesia-gives-time-its-arrow.html
New Scientist: Quantum Amnesia Gives Time its Arrow

I'm profoundly grateful to whomever gave me my star. Since I don't know who it was, I'm grateful to everyone. :hi:

[Cleita]

8. I have a somewhat different theory.

I think that what seems like future events are events in the mind of some people that they haven't acted on yet and that we tap into those events by ESP. For instance. It's well known that Jean Dixon predicted President John Kennedy's assassination and that she tried to warn him but was blown off by the White House. I think she was able to tap into Lee Harvey Oswald's mind or whoever was planning to do this in the present before the act was done.

There are a few, very few people, IMHO who can actually envision future events. I believe the rest of us are mind reading the intent of those whose actions haven't happened yet but will. Anyway. That's what I think is the process that is happening.

[northernlights]

10. I agree and disagree

I have had 1 or 2 totally precognitive experiences in my life. With extreme detail of an event that I don't believe involved prior planning. Actually, both of them related to the death of Teago, my horse mentioned above. First, there was the ouiji board experience 3 years prior to my even having a bay gelding, let alone knowing he would die on a certain day, week and month. Second was 2 weeks before the accident, when I dreamed in excrutiating detail who would be there, exactly where they would be standing in his stall when I found him, the exact joint which was injured, how I would run my hand down his leg and pick it up covered with blood (although the serious injury was inside the joint which was shattered). It wasn't a normal dream, either. It was an "outside of time" dream. Silent, eerie, terrifying.

If it was a premeditated 'accident' (say somebody took a tire iron to his leg) they somehow knew who would be at the farm on a random morning a couple weeks in advance. Knew which leg they planned to hit. Knew what the barn manager would do when she found him, knew the order everybody would line up in standing next to him.

I dreamed of him 6 months later, in another silent, "outside of time" dream he stood looking at me. He let me know that he was well.

[Why Syzygy]

2. Some people agree with you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woJtVqQqJbs&feature=PlayList&p=05859C97A4BF3E14&index=0&playnext=1

[Callie McAllie]

3. This is why I never go to any other part of DU

Cannot bear to read all the negative commentary.

I have never been a fan of ouija boards. Which is a bit odd, since I'm inclined to embrace things like tarot.

I just don't feel good about using a ouija board. Never have.

:shrug:

[MorningGlow]

5. Against my better judgment, I posted honestly

Now...where did I put my asbestos jumpsuit...

[rosesaylavee]

13. I thought you were quite brave to post what you did...

Here, I'll pass the flame-resistant armor over.

[kentauros]

17. I don't think they'll touch your post.

They seem to be going mostly after muriel's post, probably because they don't want to wade too far into "woo central" ;)

I liked your story and advice, though. I threw out mine a few years ago. Partly because I didn't use it and partly because of the idea that it can be a magnet for negative energy and entities...

[rosesaylavee]

6. Playing with a board

is like opening your front door and inviting strangers indescriminately in off the street. Sometimes they are pretty interesting and sometimes... not such a good idea. And there can be trouble when the strangers don't want to leave.

[Why Syzygy]

11. That's what the 'experts'

in the youtube I linked say. Makes sense to me.

[rosesaylavee]

12. I made a connection with 'something'

on a board when much I was much younger and this is pretty much what 'it' told us. We also asked that it 'prove' that we were not just moving the pointer on our own and it told us to turn to a page in a book I was reading and said there was an important word for me at the top of this particular page (I think it was page 342?). The word at the top of the page was in italics and was the focus from that point on in the man's life = it was a 400+ page biography on Gandhi I was wading thru at the time and the word was Satagrapha and the first use of it in his story. So. The entity said I could communicate at any time whenever I wanted without the board and he/she would prefer it that way as it was much safer for me. We stopped using it.

[get the red out]

7. I just don't have one

I had one as a kid, and played with it with my friends, then something strange that I really can't recall happened that scared us at a friend's birthday party playing with his. We were all around adolescent age so it could have been anything from spirits to raging, new hormones, LOL. But I asked my Dad to put mine in the out building at some point after that, then it got thrown away. As an adult I have heard enough warnings to decide that it is something I just don't need, to much to be gained from other things like good old fashioned meditation and attending some "woo" workshops now and then.

[Cleita]

9. I have in the past but never got good information from it.

One time my DH and I got the message that the son of a mutual friend of ours was going to commit murder. Fortunately it never happened. This was forty years ago and the boy in question is a grandfather who did well in life.

[Callie McAllie]

14. Thank goodness for that!

All of this just confirms my anxiety about ouija boards.

[rumpel]

15. Interesting to read everyone's feel about it.

Since I grew up in Japan I don't know what type of board everyone used. But in my teens, my Japanese friends called it "Kokkuri-San". We used a sheet of paper and wrote the alphabet in a circle and in the middle wrote "yes" "no". Then we used a drinking glass and placed it upside down in the center. Everone had to place a finger on top of the glass.
The Glass would move to indicate answers. I was never sure about it's legitimacy, but in general they say the spirit of a fox will posess you, and you should not play.

[kentauros]

16. I probably made at least one atheist enemy just now.

I replied to the one saying that "DU is woo central" with a simple "Good! "

[MagickMuffin]

18. In a book that I have been reading there was a section about Automatic Writing and Ouija boards

The author suggests that the Ouija board that be an excellent way to accomplish automatic writing skills. However, he warns against using it if the seeker hasn't been properly prepare oneself before attempting to proceed with the exercise.

The energy employed is Psychic Energy. The emotional and mental attitude of the sitters will attract the interests of other minds on the same level. These may be discarnate intelligences or they could be the minds of living people that have temporarily wandered away from their bodies, which may be in a deep sleep or under the influence of alcohol or drugs.

To properly prepare oneself cleanse yourself physically. Seek out a place where you will be alone if doing this on your own or with another person. Raise you level of consciousness by meditating or reading an inspirational book. This will enhance your chance of a high grade, helpful contact. Proceed with the experiment. If the initial responses and statements seem confused, ambiguous, or frivolous, stop the work immediately. Even if you are intrigued by some phrase of this response- or because you are intrigued by it-drop it. Along this road lies unpleasantness and often mischief. Avoid it. Set it aside and return to it another day when you have taken particular pains to properly prepare yourself. Unless you can approach this experiment in a high frame of mind it is better not to try it at all.

It is unfortunate that a lack of proper preparation has led so many to an instinctive revulsion to the contacts made via the Ouija board and cut short what might have been a promising development of their inner abilities. As has been pointed out this need not have happened if the emotional and mental frame of mind of the sitter is properly purified and raised in advanced.

So perhaps the reason we as children "playing" around with the Ouija board didn't understand the principles involved in approaching the board properly.

I use mine everyday, however, it is what I have my laptop sitting on, the letters are face down, so I won't mess up the board in case I want to use it at some later date. It's actually the one my parents bought when I was a kid.

[Celebration]

19. that sounds right

I am no expert on these things, but it makes sense that one would have to prepare properly. Any sort of divination, or calling spirits, or automatic writing or whatever probably entails the same risks, although some are probably less risky than others. The closest thing I come to doing anything like that is yes/no for muscle testing and pendulum. I was taught once that I could just say the following before doing that, and it would "ground" me.

"I accept all the blessings and healing of the color purple."

Since that is about the shortest clearing ritual I have come across, I just try to remember to use it.

In a way, I am sort of attracted to certain kinds of risk. It's still a pretty good way to motivate me. I guess I am in touch with my inner child or something.

"Don't do it!! No. No.!!

Me: "Oh REALLY???? I think I'll try it!"

[Fire Walk With Me]

20. What do Italians use to contact the dearly departed?

A Louigi Board. Thank you, I'm here all week.

[Dora]

21. LOL!

You clown!

:+

[rosesaylavee]

22. Haha!

[Desertrose]

23. Back in college my friend & I got the "prediction" of MLK & RFK getting shot

We didn't believe it at first but then when King was shot the week following our session we really freaked. RFK was killed when we were all home for the summer. Spring/summer of '68 was a very rough time.

Haven't used the Ouija board since my college days (many many years ago!) I do feel it can be too an easy access for "lower energies", especially for people just getting into the spiritual realms.


I never discuss these things anywhere else on DU anymore...especially the lounge....make sure your protection is turned on full and don't take ANYTHING personally. ;)