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dstuff09 Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:04 AM
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Saturn return
Hello all, I'm new here.

My natal Saturn is in Libra (8th house), and with Saturn about to return to Libra, I've been wondering what this will bring for me.

I've especially been feeling a need to completely change my career goals. I feel as if I have reached a dead end, both career-wise and in relationships that have moved on. I feel a strong need for complete change but haven't figured out how to go about it. If I have some idea of when different transits will occur, what these might mean, and how I can plan, I might feel some peace!

If anyone is able to take a closer look at my chart, I can post the birth info.

Thanks!!
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:38 AM
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1. Hi, dstuff09! Welcome to both DU and the group!
Edited on Sat Sep-12-09 10:38 AM by I Have A Dream
If you post your birth information, I'd be happy to create the chart and post it here so that people could more easily comment on it if they're inclined to do so. (Unless you already know how to do that yourself...)

:hi:

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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 11:52 AM
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2. welcome dstuff09
We have several great astrologers on here to help you. Also, astro.com (astrodienst website) will make a free online chart for you showing where everything is!

:hi:
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dstuff09 Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 12:05 PM
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3. thanks!
Thanks, I hope this link to the chart will work. My birthday is December 10, 1981 at 10:54 AM in Alexandria, Virginia, USA.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 12:27 PM
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4. It's been my experience that this shows for a while but...
is removed after a relatively short period of time.

If that happens, you'll want to put it in something like Photobucket and post the Photobucket link here instead.

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dstuff09 Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 12:58 PM
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5. chart
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dstuff09 Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 01:05 PM
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6. does anyone have thougts on this? n/t
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 01:32 PM
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7. Different transits ..
Sorry, I'm not an astrologer. The site where you got your chart does give some of your transits, though.
(Horoscope page > Short Report Forcast)
The symptoms you report are, of course, common for Saturn transits.


Positive reforms • Neptune sextile Neptune: • End of March 2008 until end of January 2010:

Growth and optimism • Jupiter sextile Sun: • End of March 2009 until mid November 2009:

Undesirable consequences • Uranus square Neptune: • End of March 2009 until end of February 2010:

Acrimonious disputes • Saturn conjunction Mars: • End of September 2009 until end of June 2010:

It can happen now • Saturn trine Venus: • Beginning of November 2009 until mid August 2010:

An opportunity • Jupiter trine Jupiter: • 25 January 2010 until 3 February 2010:

Neptune sextile Neptune: Positive reforms

End of March 2008 until end of January 2010: This is a time of new awakening to a sense of what your life is about. Before this time you have been working to establish your sense of who you are in the community of adults, and by now you probably have a pretty clear idea about that. But you may also have discovered that what you are doing with your life is not entirely appropriate. You may conclude that in the past you were motivated by too narrow a conception of what you are, by a need for security, or simply by petty ego-drives. Now you will begin to see your life in terms of a larger perspective. You should do whatever is necessary to make sure that you can live according to this new understanding.

This influence does not arouse your sense of idealism particularly, but it does make you see that the universe is a very large place, and you are a much larger part of it than you have realized.

You may be attracted to rather mystical ideas, but they will have meaning only according to how they affect your everyday world. At this time you don't need more abstractions to chase around - you need to make positive reforms in your life. And you will do so!

This influence will cause you to cut away your past and reorient your life in accordance with the larger vision you have now. The many changes that occur may seem somewhat scary, but they are ultimately for the best. You will find new freedom in a new consciousness.


Jupiter sextile Sun: Growth and optimism

End of March 2009 until mid November 2009: This is a time when life seems to flow very easily. With little effort, you are able to move in the direction that you intend, and even your ideals seem to be within reach of fulfillment. It is a period of growth, optimism and taking it easy. In many respects this is a good time to sit back and take a long look at how well your life is working out.

Because you feel vigorous and energetic, this is an excellent time to advance your interests in almost any area, although that impetus may be lacking.

Relationships with others are usually quite good now, and you enjoy being with friends. This influence often indicates good times, as your enthusiasm for life bubbles over and affects everyone around you.

This is also a good time for making plans, for you are inclined to "think big," which is a general function of your optimism. While you can overdo this tendency, you will probably be alert to opportunities that you would normally overlook or be afraid to take.

You feel generous and tolerant, and not easily bothered when something goes wrong in your world. You recognize that there is plenty of time to correct the problem, so you don't get upset. You aren't annoyed by persons who usually irritate you, and you may even feel like patching up relationships that have gone bad or become difficult.


Uranus square Neptune: Undesirable consequences

End of March 2009 until end of February 2010: This period can be a severe test of your grip on reality. It can be very confusing and cause you to be misled in a variety of ways. You may suddenly find yourself in the grip of a total delusion that you believe to be the most real thing you have ever encountered. It is very important that you consider very carefully any new idea or philosophy before allowing it to take control of your life. One danger of this influence is that you may allow some idea to control you.

At best, ideas and philosophies are devices that help you understand and make sense of the confusion of everyday experience. But under this influence ideas may become a substitute for experience, so that you begin to believe in things that you have never experienced. You will be particularly attracted to ideas that help you avoid confrontations with the everyday world.

Sometimes this influence may cause you to turn to drugs, usually psychedelics or amphetamines, which provide mystical-seeming experiences, rather than alcohol, barbiturates or opiates. But this manifestation is likely only if you have a tendency in this direction anyway.

You may turn to the study of mystical disciplines in an effort to understand what is happening to you. In itself this is not bad, but you will have to be very careful that such studies do not totally alter your sense of proportion. It is best to expose yourself to these new ideas gradually, so that you can integrate new understandings with old and thereby prevent this energy from being disruptive.

If you live consistently and are willing to deal with the real world and handle its challenges, this influence can open up aspects of reality that you have never dreamed of. It can signify an enlightenment experience at some level. But if you try to avoid reality altogether, this influence may bring about the state of unconsciousness you desire, but with undesirable consequences.


Saturn conjunction Mars: Acrimonious disputes

End of September 2009 until end of June 2010: This is often a time of enormous frustration, when you really feel as if you are beating your head against a wall. It can also be a time when you accomplish a great deal of hard work. Which it will be depends on how you handle the energy of this influence. Its basic meaning is "inhibited energy," but it can also be "disciplined energy" if you don't try to do too many things over too broad a spectrum.

On the negative side, this influence can produce feelings of intense irritability. The least little thing seems to set you off, and unfortunately you are often confronted with considerably more than "little things." People or circumstances seem to get in the way of whatever you try to do. At work your boss or employer may oppose your ideas without giving any real reasons. Or he may saddle you with so much work that you don't have time to do anything else.

Sometimes you will get involved in the most acrimonious ego disputes with others. It may be tempting to chalk this up to some kind of plot against you, but that is probably not the case. It is more likely that - even with the best of intentions - you put out some energy that is threatening to others. They respond by trying to stop you. Even if you don't mean to be threatening, you must try very hard not to make people feel threatened.

The problem with this period is that your energies are being curbed. You should take on only projects that are limited in scope but that require great exertion and concentrated effort within that scope. If you concentrate your efforts on relatively narrow objectives, you can make constructive use of this energy. But if you proceed with grandiose and far-reaching plans, you will probably encounter the worst effects of this influence.


Saturn trine Venus: It can happen now

Beginning of November 2009 until mid August 2010: This is an excellent time for you to achieve real stability in your relationships. Your individual personal needs will not conflict with the demands of the relationship, and you can base them on a realistic understanding of who you are and what others need from you. Your vision is clear, and you are not likely to enter a relationship under the spell of romantic illusions. If you are romantically inclined, in fact, your relationships may seem rather practical and dull now. However, you can use this kind of experience. A relationship should be an encounter between yourself and another individual that helps you define and understand yourself more clearly. That can happen now.

Sometime in the last few years many relationships that were inappropriate for your life were weeded out. That process may have been quite painful, but it was necessary at the time. Now, however, the only relationships left are those that have real value in your life. You should be working on them to improve your understanding of yourself and how you relate to others. This is a time for growth relationships that expand your awareness. For this reason, you may have a relationship in which there is a considerable age difference between you and your partner. The one who is "older and wiser" may act as a guide, exposing the other, through the dynamics of the relationship, to a larger and more realistic view of the world.

Also this influence favors most business and professional relationships, because you now are able to negotiate on the basis of your real needs and self-understanding while appreciating the other person's real needs. And since you understand the need for realism in relationships, whatever you decide on at this time will be mutually profitable.

Creativity under this influence is not stimulated or checked, but it does have greater discipline and rigor. You may be attracted to difficult and exacting techniques or involved in particularly painstaking craft forms. Anything that you make now is likely to be practical or useful.


Jupiter trine Jupiter: An opportunity

25 January 2010 until 3 February 2010: This influence usually represents a time of optimism and positive thinking in your life. You seem to be at a quiet point of balance that enables you to look over the affairs of your life and get a good perspective on them. Therefore, it is a good time to make long-range plans and to reorganize. You should use this time to gain new perspectives through education or travel or by participating in one of the consciousness raising activities or groups that exist now.

This is a time of psychological and physical equilibrium. If you have recently been ill in either body or mind, this influence will help tremendously with the healing process.

This is also a good time to examine your ideals and your goals, for it may be possible to actualize them in various ways now. At other times there is too much tension in your life or too much resistance from others. If you are involved in any movement for reform, now is a good time to take some positive action. Or you might become more involved in religion or philosophy, because you need to know much that is beyond the apparent order of things.

It is quite possible that you will do nothing during this time, because it gives you a feeling of balance but no drive to do anything in particular. You have an unusual sense of ease and relaxation now. This is also a good time to travel, both for relaxation and for educational reasons.

The important point to remember with this influence is that it is fundamentally an opportunity. You will not feel driven by any energies, nor will you feel any resistance to your efforts to do something. You can make great use of this time, but you have to take the initiative.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:15 AM
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8. Okay
You have not yet to have begun your Saturn return though I'm quite sure it is looming rather largely. Especially in light of the Pluto's square, and the pending Uranus opposition.

Don't sweat the coming changes. They will truly avail themselves over time and you'll figure it out. You very simply, don't have enough information to make major life choices as yet.

Perhaps try to eliminate that which is not working first.

The tough influence at present is Saturn approaching your Mars. I've oft used the metaphor under this influence of needing to carve Mt. Rushmore and only being equipped with a plastic butter knife to do so. The tasks can seem so enormously daunting and one can at times feel entirely thwarted.

"This too shall pass." goes the old prosaic expression.

The ideal is refining one's energy to the optimum of feeling as though one is in total centeredness and has something unique to offer the world in a completely appropriate manner.

I'll try to give you more later when it's not so late.

Hang in there and chin up.





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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 01:30 PM
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9. Did you get what you needed?
Welcome to DU :hi: ..

However, if you were under the impression that this site routinely provides personal astrology advice, you may have been let down. There are other sites on the net that do that. DU is primarily a political site. Hope you find what you're looking for.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:33 PM
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10. We more often than not do offer personal astrology advice when we can in this particular forum.
The operative phrase would be "when we can."

Saturn returns are some of the more monumental generic transits and to elucidate clearly their enormity and import for an individual in writing would take a tremendous amount of effort and time.

However, if dstuff has specific questions regarding specific concerns, I'm sure someone else or I will be happy to respond.

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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:51 PM
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11. That's why
Edited on Wed Sep-16-09 08:52 PM by Why Syzygy
I said "routinely". I wasn't dissing any of the astrologers.
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