*Important request*

[FreedomAngel82]

Hi all. Earlier a bit ago my mom got a call from my grandmother. My grandfather had to go to the hospital last week because he hadn't eaten for four days and was throwing up his food. They were going to put in him a feeding tube until he was eating well again. Earlier when my grandmother called she said my grandfather wasn't doing very well and was really weak. My grandmother tends to over-react and she didn't give much information so my mom called a cousin of mine and confirmed what she said since my grandmother has lied in the past. Heh. So if you can please send reiki to my grandfather to help him out. Thanks and God bless.

[Quakerfriend]

1. Will do, Angel

Let us know how things work out for your grandfather.

[FreedomAngel82]

2. Thanks

Does anybody here sense how he is doing? I sensed and just sensed his body is weak. His soul isn't though. I think he could be weak from not eating for a couple of days and last week when he did eat he threw it up so now he's back in the hospital and I think they have insulin in him so that could help. I think he's just weak from not eating but I'm not sure. Up until this point he was doing very fine and strong until he had trouble eating.

[icymist]

3. FreedomAngel82, I've seen people recover after having a feeding....

tube put in. I've been working in healthcare since 1992. Whisper silent encouragement into your grandfather's ear. This helps a lot. Also, ask why and try to understand the purpose the feeding tube was installed. Read and research everything you can on this reason. Going through this is hard. My prayers are with you.

[FreedomAngel82]

4. My grandfather didn't get to put it in

He was supposed to have it put in today to help his malnutrition to go up but he was feeling a lot worse Sunday so they went into the doctor early. So now he's in the hospital. They did a scan on his brain to see how that is and my grandmother said that he has all of his brain cells and he is well aware of what is going on. Earlier we were down there and visiting with him and he is taking pain medicine and his medicine was going out (he can feel it when it's going out) and he pointed to the clock and made a noise. I'm at my grandparents now for the night and I called my mom and she said earlier my aunt asked if he wanted her to hold his hand and he said "no" and then earlier my aunt was doing something with cottonswab to help his mouth and he said "Nasty" (it has a weird lemon taste). So I don't know what's going to happen. Once he just had nothing but plasma in him and he made it fine and a few days before this he was fine and was dressing himself, taking showers, walking around the house by himself. Does anybody else sense anything with him? I know we all die sooner or later. I'm just wondering if he is now.

[Desertrose]

5. Sorry to hear about your grandfather....

Sounds like they are swabbing his mouth to help hydrate him (its a sort of lemon glycerin thing IIRC from my Mom). Is he on any kind of saline or hydration?

Who knows what may happen and I certainly don't know much from what you have posted...but he could be getting ready to go...sometimes (old) folks can be ready one minute and then decide to stick around a bit longer and they are fine for awhile. I saw it happen with my Mom for quite a few years.

BTW-how old is your grandfather??


Just know that whatever happens, the best you can do is send him love & reassure him that whenever the time comes for him to cross that he will be fine.

Hang in...:hug::hug::hug:
DR

[ebayfool]

6. FreedomAngel82, I'm so sorry he's having such a hard time of it.

Sending all good to you & yours.

[FreedomAngel82]

7. Thanks all

I know my grandparents and my parents and all that can't live forever. I guess I was just hoping my grandfather would someday know my future children and all that. *sigh* I know I can still talk to him and "see" him if he does pass before that time. We all die sooner or later. My grandfather is 75. Most people in my family die in the mid or late 80's.

[sojourner]

8. You got it!

[sojourner]

9. FreedomAngel....in order to connect, I usually use names...can you PM

with your grandparents' names? Hold on! I am getting a sense of connectness to you...strange...never experienced this before. OK - (s'posed to be used to "oddness" by now).

Go ahead and PM if you can but I can tell you that the Reiki is flowing right now - to him or to you is my question...WOW. This happens more and more these days. I agree to send Reiki and it flies. Not kidding - my hands are aching because I'm typing and not just letting it flow.............

[FreedomAngel82]

10. Thanks to all

I also while I was there got the chance to be a lone with my grandfather for a few minutes and sent him some reiki from my hands to his body (just one hand though) and felt the energy flowing from my hand and it was electric. I usually just send it without any body parts and all that. While I was there I did have two strange dreams the same night. They felt very real so I don't know if it was or not. I think the second dream was more like a visit with my grandfather just in case he does die. That's what it felt like anyways. The first dream was me at this lounge area in the hospital. I was talking to my grandmother and she was talking about giving some stuff to someone who just left and my grandmother was really down and drained emotionally. And that's all I remember about the dream. Then I woke up in the night and when I went back to bed I had another dream and I was in my grandfather's room and we were just talking like old times. It was really weird, but this one felt more like a spiritual type of dream and not a real-life type of dream. I remember waking up feeling peaceful with everything but still kind of sad. I just remembered also last night that when my great-granmda died that night I had a VERY depressing feeling and was sad out of nowhere. I knew it wasn't me who was down because I can tell my emotions from someone else's. Then the next morning I found out from my dad that my great-grandma had died. Has anybody had a sense on how he will be and if he will die soon or not? I tried to while I was there and got mixed answers so I don't know.

[Desertrose]

11. Sometimes its best just to let life play out.....

I know its so hard when you just want answers......

I really don't think your grandfather has completley decided. He is definitely pulled in two directions...on the one hand he is so tired and tired of pain and on the other he loves his family very much and still feels he has to somehow stay to take care of you all.


Just keep loving him and let him know you love him (I'm sure he already does know but a little more love never hurts). Its nice you get to visit with him in dreamtime....thats always a good way to connect with loved ones when it is hard to physically connect.

75 is not that old, but age isn't always the deciding factor .....

Hang in sweetie and keep us posted.
:hug::loveya:
DR

[FreedomAngel82]

12. I know what you mean

I'm pretty close to my grandfather and have had a lot of people leave my life this year so I've been kinda down about that and now with my grandfather. He only had one/two more treatments left and he was going to put in a feeding tube in temporarily so he could bring up his malnutrition. They also did a test on him and his doctor said they could hear air in his lungs so they were clearing up and then this happened. When I was visiting with him earlier yesterday I tried to sense if he will die and got confusing answers and nothing clear. I just tried to help keep things positive and told him a few times I loved him and sent him energy and stuff. I could feel emotionally how tired he is from all the treatments from this year and everything. My aunt told him earlier that if he wanted to go on that he could and we would all be fine. You can tell he isn't ready to leave yet and wants to try to hold on as long as he can. Anything could happen but his body is weak and he weighs around 125 or so. The second dream was just weird and it had a spiritual level feel to it. Know what I mean? We were at the hospital and just talking away and he was talking back to me too. Thanks again for all the help.

[WhoseMarie]

13. I'm not trying to get personal info, but...

If you can let me know (via PM) where he is now (place, city, etc.) I will send some reiki energy his way this evening. It helps me to have a sense as to his phyisical place. Just my 'thing'. Also, please PM me his full name, date of birth...kinda helps me.

[FreedomAngel82]

14. I'll send what info I can

[FreedomAngel82]

15. Update on my grandfather

Well this morning my aunt called my mother and told my grandfather died this morning at 2am. :( I had a feeling yesterday something had changed so I figured he had changed his mind about leaving. :( I went to bed pretty late and I was watching yesterday's Daily show and I saw an image of him popping in my room but I thought it was my mind playing tricks on me. I also earlier today while I was taking a shower and got a message from him. He told me how he was going to stay and was able to stay around my grandmother and watch over her. I think they are soul mates but I'm not sure. I can feel he's happy to be back where he belongs even though I can feel he does miss us all and I miss him too. But I know how to astral and I can always visit with him. So thank you to all of those who have sent reiki.

[Mandate My Ass]

16. I'm so sorry

My MIL was sure her husband was with her for a year after he passed. She said his presence left just before their grandson was born, and at birth he looked just like my late FIL. :hug:

[FreedomAngel82]

17. Aww

I got the sense though that he isn't going to leave until my grandmother dies. Can anybody here confirm that? My grandfather is the youngest person to die in our family besides a cousin of mine who died in her twenties from a disease. But I can really clearly sense that. I think he's more at peace with himself and you can really sense it. That's neat about the grandson.

[emcguffie]

20. I'm very sorry about him.

It's good you can find what is positive.

I was going to say, no, no, he's not dying, it takes a long time for someone to die....

But of course, that isn't always true.

My mother took two weeks. When she first "started the dying process", I asked how long that meant, and they said, oh, it could be minutes, or as much as two weeks.

Two weeks. I guess it was hard for her to let go. Very feisty lady, my mom.

[Desertrose]

21. Oh Freedom Angel, I'm so sorry......

I just had a feeling he was about ready to go.......he was just so tired of trying to stay in an old worn out and sick body.

:hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug:

I have a feeling, too, that he will definitely be hanging around for awhile. He knows you can "see" him.

Its so hard to lose the ones we love in this physical life...but he is probably always going to be with you for as long as you want him to be.:)

:grouphug::loveya:
DR

[Digit]

22. I am so sorry FreedomAngel for your loss

He knows you loved him.

[emcguffie]

18. I just want to share a family story.

A few years back, my mother came to visit me. The very next morning, she woke up sitting in a puddle of urine and unable to get up. Turns out she had breast cancer from 10 years back now mestatisized to her bones, liver, and -- this is why she peed -- her lower spine.

(That's not my point, hold on.)

She had seemed a little spacey to me, much more so than usual, even though she was 81 or 82. And day after day, she just quietly, slowly stopped eating, and began to waste away. She couldn't swallow. I found this wonderful Russian emigre, Emma, who had been an MD in Russia (and probably is now here, as well) to take care of her during the day, and Emma would stand by her bed all day with spoonsful of ice cream.

Nothing worked, and mom ended up in the hospital, where they eventually put a feeding tube in. On the very day they put that tube in -- which I had given permission for -- on the front page of the NY Times was an article that said that families of terminal patients who put feeding tubes in were usually making a mistake, because when people stopped eating and drinking, it meant they were starting to die, and we should just let them go at that point.

Well -- correction: actually, they didn't put a tube in at first, they put a line in. But next they did put a tube in, and it was as I left the hospital and headed to work that day that I read that little piece on page A1 of the Times.

Eventually she was sent to a nursing home. I went to visit her regularly, and it was appalling, because "she", my mother, was just gone, and her body was sitting in this weird reclining chair, with stinky stuff in her mouth.

One day, when I came, there she was in that funky chair, and she kind of sat up and said, "Ellen? Is that you?" with this big smile on her face. I will never be able to describe how I felt at that moment.

It seems what she had was a B-vitamin deficiency (I can't remember if it was B1 or B6) common to elderly people who do not eat well. Wernike's encephalopathy (if I've spelled it correctly). Something common to alcoholics, which she was not, but my dad had died 10 years earlier, and she really didn't do much for herself, tended to eat nothing but creamy, buttery sweet things (she was mostly Irish). So it made sense to me.

Since then she has indeed died, but before she did, she came all the way back from that horrible place for a couple of years. I often wonder how many older people become "demented" and then die because of a B-vitamin deficiency.

[FreedomAngel82]

19. I don't know

But my grandfather just stopped eating. Dunno why. Maybe his body was starting to die or something. It's still strange and I really do miss him. :cry: He had lung cancer though and was so close to being done with treatments and all that. *sigh*