Hey Group!

[JanusAscending]

I'm sorry I haven't written lately to keep you updated on my condition, but I've been feeling like I'm actually DYING! Having recurring dreams of self diagnosis, and waking tireder in the AM than when I went to bed. I've been wrestling with my symptoms and being my own diagnostician for too long now. I believe that I am suffering from "Systemic Yeast infection" All the signs and symptoms have been rearing their ugly heads. For the past two days I've been waking up thinking "this is the day I call 911 to take me to the hospital. I've been doing my homework and research on Google sites, and have decided as a last resort to try a product called"Three Lac". A two mo. supply costs 54.45 with shipping included. It's my last hope before I throw in the towel, so to speak. I can't go on living like this, and I found if untreated, it can kill me. Now it's affecting my eyes, and my muscles. I have NO STRENGTH. Even the B12 I'm taking isn't helping. Still no sense of taste, and what should be saliva in my mouth, is a sticky white substance that is nasty (this I can taste and smell)!! Has anyone had experience using this product, or heard of it? I could use some prayers for strength and courage about now. I really hope this helps. Thanks ALL LUV YA! JA

[I Have A Dream]

1. Oh, JA, I'm so sorry that you're going through this.

I can't believe that your doctor can't do anything about this. :(

I don't know anything about this product, but I will definitely send light and healing energy your way. I will also pray that you are able to find a solution very soon. :hug::hug::hug:

[Celebration]

2. yikes

Is there a holistic doctor near you? They might be able to handle something like this. I know some practitioners have patients use products from places like Standard Process to do a semi-fast to try to get rid of the candida, and then, when it is mostly gone, start using acidophilus or FOS to reinoculate the gut with good bacteria.

I don't know anything about that product, but I do question whether anything is strong enough to clear up something this bad, sans some sort of strict diet. But I don't really know that. I really would try to get someone professional to help you, even if it is phone appointments. You could also have parasites or something and need to get some lab work done. I think I remember you have been to a regular doctor (??)

You could well be right with your self diagnosis, but I think it would be a big help to get professional input on this. A holistic MD or a specialized type of nutritionist could be able to help.

Since you are really close to calling 911, and you don't want to end up in the hospital, I think you should get some help with this, ASAP.

In any case, yes, do keep us posted. Sending healing vibes.......

[JanusAscending]

8. At this point, I would almost

rather end up in the hospital! Then a team of Drs. might be able to arrive at a diagnosis or cause. Let them do all the tests while I'm there, rather than running from one specialist to another all over Ct. and still getting no answers! At least I'll have someone to "take care of me" and prepare what meals they feel are suitable for my condition. If it's "systemic" maybe there is an IV med. they can use to knock it out of me, once and for all!??? I've been so weak, I have a hard time preparing meals. I had to sit down to fry a couple of eggs and hash last night! Had chicken soup tonight! I'm drinking a lot of fluids so I don't get dehydrated.

[elleng]

10. They will, You did, and I did arrive at diagnosis.

Go To ER ASAP! There IS IV approach; husb had it.

[Celebration]

16. Call your doctor and request that you go to the hospital, then

That is way preferable to sitting around waiting in the ER. There is no guarantee that they would admit you from the ER.

[villager]

3. hang in there, JA, and post often...

..so the fight back to a healthy place won't feel quite so lonely...

Take care...!

[rumpel]

4. Oh, JA...

I really hope you get some relief. It is going on for way too long.

Sending you light





:grouphug:

[Why Syzygy]

5. If you have "Systemic Yeast Infection"

just taking probiotics is not going to solve the issue. The yeast has to be killed off and probiotics do not do that. They simply replace/enhance the flora balance. If it is way out of balance, they cannot correct it. I was on a candida diet for five months. Besides taking nutritional supplements and probiotics, I had to avoid dairy, sugars, fruit, all yeast containing foods, including my favorite, bleu cheese dressing!

Since your income is so stretched, consider starting with something that doesn't cost so much. Something like raw unfiltered vinegar can balance your Ph. You don't need an expensive product to do that.

http://bragg.com/products/acv.html

You have been absent for a while. Does your doctor know about your recent problems? I also read that when someone begins B12 they might feel worse before feeling better. (Maybe Dora posted that?)

I hate to see you spend so much on something that might not be what you need. I certainly understand the lure of self diagnosis. I'm confused why you would refer to that product as your last resort. What have you tried so far? I think you should consult your doctor as a first resort. If it is yeast, he can prescribe Nystatin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nystatin

[lildreamer316]

6. Why Syzygy, do you think coconut oil is a good supp for this?

I found it reduced my instances of yeast infections, but I know this is a slight remedy considering what she needs. Do you have an opinion?

[Why Syzygy]

18. I don't know.

Coconut oil is good for a lot of things, and is a new one for me. I'll look it up.

[Why Syzygy]

27. Yes!

I did not know this.

http://www.yeastconnection.com/archive/fighting_ask_may05.html

Q. How does coconut oil work against yeast infections?
A. Coconut oil has several unique properties that make it an excellent treatment for yeast infections.

Among the most potent natural yeast-fighting substances are lauric acid and caprylic acid, both derived from coconut oil.

All medium chain fatty acids found in coconut oil kill yeast, viruses and bacteria.

Some of these substances are stronger against one type of organism and some work better against others, so when all these elements combine forces in this unique type of oil, they become a daunting weapon against dysbiosis.

When I began researching coconut oil, I noticed that many patients mentioned they were getting relief from a wide variety of symptoms, including fatigue, joint pain, irritability and recurrent bladder infections.

Of course, you’re aware that people suffering from candida infections often complain of precisely these symptoms.

That’s when I realized that the medium chain fatty acids in coconut oil must be killing candida in the intestinal tract.
(...)

[JanusAscending]

7. I did two rounds of Nystatin.

He had me use it as a gargle only. I think I should have been swallowing it. He "assumed" that the thrush didn't go deeply enough into my stomach to do otherwise. I think he was wrong, because now I have a UTI and symptoms of a vaginal yeast infection. It's affecting my muscles in my "glutes" and affecting my vision and equilibrium. The diet I read that was recommended said NO VINIGAR...period. No mayo, relish etc. No sugar or any sweeteners. All I have been eating is eggs, soups and juices, and they say to stay away from juices and fruits. I suppose I could live on tuna, eggs and rice for a while. This med I ordered is more than a pro biotic, and the people who have used it, swear that it has helped when nothing else did. (testimonials) It's a powder packet that you sprinkle on your tongue and rinse down with water and swallow. I went on google and wrote in "Systemic Yeast infection" Many sites came up about this product!

[elleng]

9. DEAR Janus, DO GET TO THE ER.

Husb had such, and was on iv for some time. Sounds like Doc wasn't thinking 'big' enough.

:hug: :hug:

[OneGrassRoot]

11. Listen to elleng, JA!

At the very least, as you said, you'll be where the basics of life are taken care of for you as they determine what's wrong. If you're having thoughts of going to the ER, it probably is time.

:hug: :hug: :hug:

[Why Syzygy]

17. You're right about

the vinegar. Sorry. I wasn't thinking enough. I agree with the others and you that a hospital stay might be your best option at this point. INSIST they consider candidiasis. When I had a RUPTURED appendix I made one unfruitful visit to ER. They sent me home. The next night I went back and told them I wasn't leaving until they tested my white blood count. They then called a surgeon for emergency surgery! Insist they be thorough.

[Celebration]

12. Another thought?

Make sure that your Vitamin D3 levels are okay. It will help you fight off candida or any infection. There are plenty of links and threads in the Health Forum.

[stellanoir]

13. one word-acidophilus

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acidophilus

Shouldn't be that pricey

Yogurt wouldn't hurt either.

feel better soon

:grouphug:

[Cleita]

19. Yogurt like that has the live bugs in it is very helpful. n/t

[MorningGlow]

14. Been thinking about you JA

Noticed you haven't posted here lately or much at all on FB. :hug:

I agree with Elleng--go to the ER. Order the Three Lac if you have a good vibe about it, but you need medical care (better than what your GP has been providing) RIGHT NOW.

FWIW, I think you're right on the money about candida, and it can be very harmful if left untreated, so don't wait for the product to arrive in the mail--go to the ER in the meantime.

OKAY???

Sending you lots of love and good vibes that you get the care you need and deserve ASAP. Keep us posted. :hug:

[JanusAscending]

20. Hi MG.

I felt a "little" better this AM, and made a quick visit up to my daughter's house to see Aidan, and talk to her about my situation. She wanted to know "when did I get so stupid"?!!! Been putting off going to ER until I could get arrangements made for my dog, in case they will admit me. She has my power of attorney etc., so I wanted to discuss things with her. I was going to wait and call 911 when it got too bad, thinking there was a better chance of getting more immediate attention than if I drove myself to ER. That's when she let loose with the stupid comment, so I'm calling my Dr. tomorrow, and asking him if he'll help me get admitted for tests. We have a "big" storm headed this way for tomorrow, so maybe I can get in by Thursday. I hadn't been taking my acidophilis because the pills were too big and hard to swallow, but I forced some down last night and this AM. They seem to be helping a bit. They are the type that have to be refrigerated, and out of sight, out of mind!! I am stupid after all! I picked up another type called "Pearls" at the pharmacy today. They are tiny, and don't need refrigeration. They are a "Proprietary Probiotic blend (1 billion CFU) of Lactobacillus acidophilis and Bifidobacterium longum......whatever that is, it sounds good! It says they start alive and stay alive. Hope they help me do the same!! Speaking of Facebook.... yesterday I posted a new photo album of pics they took of Aidan at the Yankee Candle store for Xmas, and there are lovely pics of butterflies included from their indoor sanctuary. Check my profile to see them. They got some real SPECIAL pics of him. Be prepared though....there are a lot of them!!! LOVE that kid...he's my reason for living right now. :loveya: :grouphug: P.S. Loved the pics you put up of"kidlet's" Birthday Party...especially the last one!!!

[elleng]

21. Dear 'Stupid!' - NOT!

I'm glad to hear that you appear to be inching toward a hospital at maybe a better rate than before (AND I ASSUME that your daughter will keep after you!) Thanks from us to her!

Encourage your doctor, inform him/her that you've been in touch with several with experience who say GO, and GO!!!

:hug:

[MorningGlow]

22. I agree with Elleng--definitely NOT stupid!

But listen to your daughter anyway and get your butt to the ER somehow--with or without your doctor's help.

I did see your grandson's photos--too cute! I love that kid! Especially love the pics of him hugging the giant teddy bears. :loveya:

[Celebration]

25. I hope you get the right response from your doctor

I don't think you are stupid, but honestly going through the ER is probably not the most efficient way of handling this. Usually when it is a choice of taking some herbs you order over the internet vs. going the the emergency room, the right answer lies somewhere in between. It is much, MUCH easier for your doctor to admit you to the hospital. If that isn't necessary, you could get someone to look after you at home, and take you places to get the tests run.

I'm actually surprised at all the advice to go to the emergency room. Your problems, which admittedly sound bad, are more chronic than acute.

If you are not satisfied with what your doctor says, find another one ASAP.

By the way, hospital stays aren't all they are cracked up to be anyway. You can easily catch other infections there, they wake you up hourly, practically, etc.

My response has NOTHING to do with whether or not you need prompt medical attention. I think you do, but I would certainly recommend the doctor.......and use your communication skills to impart the severity of the problem.

[JanusAscending]

28. Thanks honey...I hear you.

You are preaching to the choir about hospitals. My husband went into one for laperoptic gall bladder surgery, and never came home. He was killed by MRSA picked up in the hospital. I went today anyway, they didn't admit me, but I got one problem solved (UTI) and some peace of mind at least! LUV YA! JA

[rumpel]

26. I am happy to see you are in better spirits, JA

much love & light to you.

:grouphug:

[japple]

15. Dear Janus, so sorry you're having such a hard time. I hope you

can find a doctor who will listen to you and will be willing to treat you as a whole person. In my experience, doctors are still reluctant to consider a diagnosis of candidiasis and to prescribe the required medication. It's the same with fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome. If you can find a holistic doctor or naturopath, I'd head in that direction and, IMHO, a woman doctor might be more openminded. Please keep in touch with us. Sending healing energies your way as well as :hug: :hug: :hug:

[Cleita]

23. Dear JA, I'm so sorry that you are going through this.

Please try the acidophilus milk and/or yogurt with live bacteria. I have beaten yeast infections that I got from taking antibiotics with it. As with any natural or herbal remedy, it takes longer to kick in so be patient and eat a serving of yogurt everyday for a month before you give up on it. Good luck!

[winyanstaz]

24. Janus....go to the er. do it now. You need a dr now hon...dont put it off.

[JanusAscending]

29. I went honey.

See my new post from tonight! Thanks for your encouragement and good thoughts. Your powers are unbelieveable! When you ZAP, you really ZAP! You've connected a few times already, and I'm always open for more! LUV YA! JA

[I Have A Dream]

30. JA, have you tried a baking soda rinse?

"Rinse your mouth and tongue daily with a baking soda rinse. Baking soda, or Sodium Bicarbonate, is one of the leading Candida fighters, and quickly kills the bacteria that causes tongue thrush. To make a baking soda rinse, combine 2 tbsp. baking soda with 1 cup of water, and swish it in the mouth for 1 minute."


Maybe it will help...

[JanusAscending]

31. Yes dear, I've tried it.

I wear dentures, so what I've been doing is soaking them overnight in baking soda and peroxide (diluted with water). I also use this mixture to "brush" my tongue. I can't bear the taste to rinse my mouth with the mixture, it makes me gag. As a kid, with bad tonsils, I remember my Mom making me gargle with baking soda, and the only way I could tolerate it was if some lemon juice was added. My body seems to react better to acidic rather than alkaline for some reason.