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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 05:41 AM
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I feel like we're due for an 'explosion' of sorts here (and outside of here)
GD is just..really sinking into chaos. BUT, I notice if i go to other political discussion boards; they are worse in tone than we are in a way. DU seems primed for an explosion of anger and upseted-ness very, very soon.
I get the feeling we are rushing at a wall here in America. It seems a general malaise of hopelessness at the moment; and huge amounts of frustration.
I'm torn between being fascinated by all aspects of 'the fall' and knowing I need to pull my attention away from it. It's like a blizzard of crazy coming undone all over the place.
My patience is short, and I know it really shouldn't be. I am,however, finding time every day to mentally make a list of what I am very grateful for.
On a side note, husband could still use some vibes for strength and patience - I don't think I've ever seen him this frustrated and spread so thin. We are on solid ground as a couple (none of the past few years' upheaval) though.

Thoughts? Other observations? Ideas? Insights? :)
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 08:40 AM
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1. it coincides with my reading about this time...
off my saved reading from previously...

"reading for ages after: life post-Tower (late 2008) 10/13/08

Tripartite with solidifiers

1. King of Pentacles
a. 7 Cups
b. Materialism/Devil
c. (R) Mage

2. 6 Cups
a. Page Spades
b. (R) 9 Cups
c. 6 Spades"

the stage we just lived through (which was the next stage coming when i made this reading)...
1.
King of Pentacles is Obama.
7 of Cups is the wish card.
Materialism represents the dark forces working to undo our efforts.
Reversed Mage is the lack of or corruption of power.

we have great wishes of him, but pragmatic choices chain him down and leave him impotent or pulled into choices enveloped by evil corruption.

the next stage coming...
2.
6 of Cups is nostalgia, fond memories of times now past, possible return of friend or new like-minded ally.
Page of Spades is defensiveness, delay of plans, and possible relation to war.
Reversed 9 Cups is straight up 'wish will not be fulfilled at this time." lack of funds possible, feeling deprived definitely.
6 of Spades, long journey, crossing the rubicon, leaving a bad situation, allow it to phase out.

wish things were better like we remember them; our wish for what we wanted is not granted now, delay, defensiveness, frustration... allow the coming of the long journey, let the pain dry up desire to return back to the old ways that got us here, prepare for the long journey.

... we do not need to dwell on my reading of the stage after that. suffice it to say, we have enough on our plate to worry about. be bearers of light, people -- this also involves grieving for our lost ideals and wishes.

and Maitreya, buddha from the future, sat crossed-legged and looked onto the future end of the world with compassion...
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 04:36 PM
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6. Interesting reading.
I did one about a week ago asking where the country was heading. I had so many Major Arcana cards in it, it startled me, but the end result was not good, only pointing to strife and struggle in the future. I didn't save it so I don't remember the exact cards just my interpretation. I believe that many Major Arcana cards means that there are many spirit guides and angels who are watching and who are concerned so maybe there will be a better result eventually down the road.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 08:44 AM
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2. Very insightful, lildreamer...

I agree with your observations and impressions, and resonate with your feelings about it all.

I feel like I'm having an out-of-body experience or something. Very odd. Trying to stay removed from the chaos but fascinated by it at the same time.

Hugs of support to you (and hubby).

:grouphug:

:hug:


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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 09:35 AM
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3. on the phones people have calmed down this past week
after weeks of being greeted with people yelling right from the hello. Don't know if it's the calm before the storm.

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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 12:41 PM
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4. I rolled I Ching for you.
Question: please give insight into lildreamer's suspicion that we're due for an explosion.

Result: Hex 1 (Chi'en, the Creative)/ Changing Line 2.

Nine in the second place means:
Dragon appearing in the field.
It furthers one to see the great man.

Here the effects of the light-giving power begin to manifest themselves. In terms of human affairs, this means that the great man makes his appearance in his chosen field of activity. As yet he has no commanding position but is still with his peers. However, what distinguishes him from the others is his seriousness of purpose, his unqualified reliability, and the influence he exerts on his environment without conscious effort. Such a man is destined to gain great influence and to set the world in order. Therefore it is favorable to see him.

http://ichingonline.net
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 10:53 PM
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10. Wow, that's interesting..
and hopeful. Now I'm curious.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 04:31 PM
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5. I'm finding both GD and GDP very angry in tone.
Maybe it's because there seems to be a glut of trolls these days. They might be just kids trying to get a laugh at our expense while out for Christmas break. Many of us though are feeling disappointment with our Democrats because we are finding out that they are nothing more than corrupt millionaires and billionaires who don't care about us or our country and they have the nerve to lie to our faces. It's very depressing and I guess the anger shows through on our posts.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 04:42 PM
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7. A couple of notes on your reading, lildreamer. I learned to read the cards with
Edited on Sat Dec-12-09 04:45 PM by Mist
some slightly different emphases.

I read the 7 of Cups as "the card of illusion." It's been my experience that the 7 of Cups very often shows up in readings for alcoholics or addicts. I personally interpret it as a negative card, but maybe that's just me. Our current economic/political crap has to do with the crumbling of illusions, among other things.

The Mage card can be tricky--in fact, as well as a card indicating great skill, it's also sometimes seen as a card of tricksters and con men. I'm almost seeing the reversed Mage as an indication that the con men/banksters running our system are actually going down, losing power daily. By losing power, I don't mean they're out of office--they still occupy positions of power, but their personal skills and abilities, their "powers," are decreasing. While they set up a lot of the failure of our economy/political system, I often get the feeling that the whole thing is out of their control, which must be disconcerting to them. After all, they're major control freaks.

I've often seen the 6 of Swords come up in personal growth readings, for myself and others. I see it as "one step of a journey is complete--you're coming to a new shore. Understand this as a stage or plateau in your growth." I think, with everything going ker-blooey, many are growing up, and seeing things more clearly. The 6 of Cups indicates nostalgia for what we used to have, and now we know we must leave our nostalgia and learn what the "new shore" holds for us.

This is just how I read the cards. Everyone who reads cards develops a sense of the meanings that often add detail to the general meanings of the cards. Again, JUST MY .02 CENTS!
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 05:31 PM
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8. It's necessary
I always invoke that old chestnut "Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette" and all that. Necessary, and not pretty. And scary.

You know what's weird? In previous eras of upheaval, there's been a clear "enemy". During WWII, there were the Nazis. During the '60s, there was "da man". But now...we have to face the fact that we have to fight against our own political and social institutions. ("We have met the enemy, and he is us.") I wonder how far we'll have to be pushed before we really stand up for ourselves.

One thing I've noticed here on DU is the rampant cynicism. It's like we didn't get everything WE wanted (and, let's face it, we on the far left are a minority, whether we like to admit it or not) and now we're just gonna throw tantrums and pee in everybody's Cheerios at every opportunity, even in innocuous threads like in the Lounge. That makes me sad.

In the meantime, sending light to you husband to ease his stress.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 10:42 PM
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9. Thanks
for the light, MG. I just don't feel as if I can give him enough by myself.

As for the rest, yes - you are so right. We have met the enemy and he is us/unknowable/undefined. It is scary, but necessary I think. Should be an interesting ride; I just hope we make it through alright.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 03:49 AM
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11. You know it, lild.
It will not be pretty. It's one reason I've started limiting my emotional involvement with this site.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:42 AM
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12. I found Facebook
and new friends there at exactly the right time. I am so over DU.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 12:06 PM
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13. I tried to respond yesterday morning and the computer froze up
Edited on Sun Dec-13-09 12:07 PM by FirstLight
So here I am again to try & relate some of the observations.

I agree with the feeling that "something's gotta give" and it does permeate everything, everywhere...I can also identify with the patience thing in certain circles. I want my life to be farther along than it is, just like I want the world to "hurry up & GET there" already. I am tired and more tired of hearing the continuing news stories that focus on the darkness and continue the illusion of power and poverty. I find that the polarity is palpable sometimes...even within myself...

And yes, I'm totally am both fascinated and working to consciously hold the Light. It is a weird dichotomy. and like MG said...the fact that the 'enemy' is within and right next to us is a different process too.

As much as I would like to think that it is 'all going to magically shift' by 2012...preferably before! But the reality inside me has proven it is a lot of WORK to be conscious of choices and choose the light...so collectively we are in for some "Mr. Toad's Wild Ride" action. Since most humans choose to keep their blinders on and then run like lemmings when the shit hits the fan.

So those of us who hold the Light have to get to the point where it is second nature to be the mediators, the compassionate ones, the guides...
and places like THIS forum and our own little tribes of light are where we get to decompress - and "out there" is like our little "practice session" with the ick and working the shift.

...At least the idealist in me would like to think we can do this easily. And my guides keep reminding me that "we have done this before" ;) many times on many planets. We'll be fine...


:grouphug:


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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 03:25 PM
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14. I feel a need to separate from the anger
I have found myself getting too caught up sometimes and now it is even more uncomfortable for me than ever. I was just pondering how so many people I know, especially those around me with whom I share a spiritual path, are suddenly sounding like "Chatty Cathy" dolls to me. It's like you pull their string and a taped, obnoxious answer comes out in a tone dismissive of anything with even the slightest difference in point of view. I have to keep my head where my hands are right now and am working on keeping my hands busy. I tell myself I simply don't have time to fight, the sick feeling takes a lot of recovery time when I do. I do state my opinion though, I may be the one person that a silent, lonely voice finds to identify with.
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