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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 07:34 PM
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Any vibe on tomorrow's election in Massachusetts?
Like a lot of folks at DU, I'm stunned that the MSM is reporting that the Republican is ahead in the polls. Does anyone pick up any vibes as to what is going on or what is likely to happen tomorrow?
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 08:47 PM
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1. I'm getting Coakley.
I've asked twice, after focusing. Coakley both times.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:57 PM
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2. Someone is playing mind games
with the democrats in MA.!! It's trying to use "reverse psychology" on us, and it's going to backfire if WE ALL hold up our light and a mirror to reflect it back on 'em! I don't trust the polls, and I don't trust the voting machines...I just can't visualize a clear winner, so Uncle Teddy.....give us a hand O8)
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hermetic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:51 AM
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3. Ah, Janus
I was going to start a thread asking if anyone is from MA, and say that my thoughts and prayers are with you today. I will light a few candles for you, as well. May all your roads be clear and safe.
:grouphug:
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Sienna86 Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:45 AM
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4. Consider this
All the Democratics out there may just decide to head to the polls, even if they are disappointed with the state of things or the candidate, because the polls give the Republican candidate the lead.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 06:52 PM
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7. Thanks....although I don't live in MA. now...........
my heart is there in the Berkshires. We lived there for just over twenty years...the happiest years of my life! Tonight will tell whether our prayers and LIGHT have had an effect. I'm in Ct. now.
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:21 PM
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5. I saw a hawk today and a red fox
Both beautiful specimens. Whenever I see wildlife on special occasions, what I hope for always comes true.

She's in.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:25 PM
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6. All I read is that she's supposed to loose
But my "vibes" are seriously strong that she's going to barely pull it out and win by 2 to 5 percentage points and the talking points will instantly change in the media to "how did a Republican come that close......"

I just keep getting that vibe strong, I'm not a true psychic, but I have my moments. I hope it is correct.

The media gets what it wants either way because they can shift talking points between a loss and a close victory for Dems in a moment and never get questioned on it.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:38 PM
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8. Voting irregularities reported
Pre-marked ballots for Brown. I "knew" this as soon as they said Diebold would be counting the votes, but I was really, REALLY hoping I was wrong.

Now--will this be the election that is finally successfully contested?
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:32 PM
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9. I saw Brown as being wounded and Coakley possibly pulling a narrow victory.
... not sure if Brown's wounds are an election defeat or not. Certainly, when one doesn't concern ones' self with history, one gets to not see the forest for the trees. If Obama and his advisors would have worked to get progressives elected and would have listened to what they had to say, this country wouldn't be sweating one Senate seat.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:16 PM
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10. I did another meditation last night around midnight, PST.
I still got Coakley as the winner, though she may not be declared that until late Thursday night.

I get that she will remain in the seat until 2017. Intuitively, I perceive her energy to be solid and centered. I'm also sort of picking up that the victory is less about the big picture and more about a simple energy match between Coakley and the people she will be representing.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:27 PM
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11. Coakley conceded
Unbelievable.
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:38 PM
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12. With no exit polling, and vulnerable machines, just as they
were during the two stolen elections, you will never have a full accounting of what the people actually voted.

I have no doubt Coakley really won, but there will never be a true tally.

I'm from MA, and there were no exit polls in the state. Now why would that be when we know that's the single safeguard we have? By design, always by design.

Say what we will about the whys of this election, it will come down to this one thing. There is no democracy, it is an illusion.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:09 PM
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15. This is true
Democracy has become an illusion. Looking at it another way though, it sure takes the pressure off. (Not being snarky.) Honestly, I can't even get worked up about this outcome--I feel nothing. Because it doesn't matter who's in charge. So in the immortal words of Edie Brickell, "I quit, I give up..." I'm really going to work on my immediate community. That's all that really matters.

Snicker--reminds me of Monty Python and the Holy Grail, when the peasants didn't know they had a king--it didn't make any difference in their daily lives. Ah yes, here it is...

ARTHUR: Well, I AM king...

DENNIS: Oh king, eh, very nice. An' how'd you get that, eh? By exploitin' the workers -- by 'angin' on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic an' social differences in our society! ....If there's ever going to be any progress--

WOMAN: Dennis, there's some lovely filth down here. Oh -- how d'you do?

ARTHUR: How do you do, good lady. I am Arthur, King of the Britons. Who's castle is that?

WOMAN: King of the who?

ARTHUR: The Britons.

WOMAN: Who are the Britons?

ARTHUR: Well, we all are. we're all Britons and I am your king.

WOMAN: I didn't know we had a king. I thought we were an autonomous collective.

DENNIS: You're fooling yourself. We're living in a dictatorship. ..... A self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes--

WOMAN: Oh there you go, bringing class into it again.

DENNIS: That's what it's all about if only people would--

ARTHUR: Please, please good people. I am in haste. Who lives in that castle?

WOMAN: No one lives there.

ARTHUR: Then who is your lord?

WOMAN: We don't have a lord.

ARTHUR: What?

DENNIS: I told you. We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week.

ARTHUR: Yes.

DENNIS: But all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special biweekly meeting.

ARTHUR: Yes, I see.

DENNIS: By a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs,--

ARTHUR: Be quiet!

DENNIS: --but by a two-thirds majority in the case of more--

ARTHUR: Be quiet! I order you to be quiet!

WOMAN: Order, eh -- who does he think he is?

ARTHUR: I am your king!

WOMAN: Well, I didn't vote for you.

ARTHUR: You don't vote for kings.

WOMAN: Well, 'ow did you become king then?

ARTHUR: The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. That is why I am your king!

DENNIS: Listen -- strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.

ARTHUR: Be quiet!

DENNIS: Well you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!

ARTHUR: Shut up!

DENNIS: I mean, if I went around sayin' I was an empereror just because some moistened bink had lobbed a scimitar at me they'd put me away!

ARTHUR: Shut up! Will you shut up!

DENNIS: Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system.

ARTHUR: Shut up!

DENNIS: Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! --- HELP! HELP! I'm being repressed!

ARTHUR: Bloody peasant!

DENNIS: Oh, what a give away. Did you here that, did you hear that, eh?.... That's what I'm on about -- did you see him repressing me, you saw it didn't you?
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:41 PM
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16. +100
classic...but too true. I feel nothing either, it just seems like another cog in the wheel of things already shifting...the rest is just details.

And quite honestly, Gaia and her ever shifting skin don't give a rat's ass who is the congress-critter of any given little outlined area...no more than we care who is the king of an anthill before we destroy it...

the Earth is way bigger than all this stuff, and humanity has bigger fish to be fryin'


(.....and i LOVE that Monty Python bit! :rofl: )
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:58 PM
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13. wow...yikes
the Illusion of democracy is right...

Not just the voting irregularities, etc...but her concession seemed too easy, too early...who paid off who? makes you wonder...

yep, they own us all...for now
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Kookaburra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:23 AM
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17. You know what?
It feels like she just gave up -- not so much paid off -- at least that's what I'm feeling on this one. Feels like she's relieved that she lost.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:02 PM
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14. I am so disgusted
This shouldn't have even been close.
I think I have to get my mind off this. Signing off for a couple of days.
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dynasaw Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:50 AM
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18. Looks As if the Vibes Were Wrong
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 02:24 PM
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19. Americans, as always, demand instant personal convenience
and will backlash upon anything not currently providing it, even if such is good for them in the long run. The Republican party know this very well, and set up causes and conditions for this to come to fruition.

No matter that Obama has truly worked a miracle in keeping the economy afloat, as it was damaged purposely enough to fail catastrophically; Americans will grow tired of surviving what would have become the second Great Depression, and might select the second Great Depression out of sheer lack of short-term memory and a long game perspective.

Of course, anything like that would also cause another backlash and America could break out of Republican "ideals" as a result of any even worse scenario. If they pull together, that is. Obama himself in an email stated that his initiatives would not be widely accepted/enacted during his lifetime. He knows, but still must provide the foundation for the future.

God, please give us what's good for us, not what we want.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:24 PM
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22. Remember, causing destruction is always a win-win for the Republican party.
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 05:25 PM by Fire Walk With Me
"Yesterday's disappointing election results show deep discontent with the pace of change...We also saw what we knew to be true all along: Any change worth making is hard and will be fought at every turn." -

Mitch Stewart
Director
Organizing for America

Those who want change NOW, any change, may opt for a path which brings about even worse results.

The Republicans know that in attempting to destroy the US economy, they win:
1- It is a nightmare for any non-Republican politicians who take it on, who may be blindly blamed for it (!)
2- People may grow uncomfortable with what they perceive as insufficient change and vote recklessly (for Republicans who make noise about Democrats not having a solution....to the very problems the Republicans caused in the first place!!!)
3- They get to invest all over the place and make money out of destruction. Disaster Capitalism, also extended to social control.
4- As per #3, a bad enough social/economic situation allows them to grab even more control, sometimes per #2, at the demand of those uncomfortable with the situation...that the Republicans created in the first place!

I have been saying these things for years. It will take enough people rejecting the Republicans, to end their disastrous campaign to control America and drive it into a financial monarchy. Into the dictionary definition of fascism.

Politics are not so important anymore. The economy, and manipulating the economy, are keys to control (and freedom).
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 05:28 PM
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20. This recent post by Cleita rings true:
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:13 PM
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21. Action
"Without progressive challengers to energize the base of the Democratic Party, we face more losses like Massachusetts." -Marcy Winograd, who is running for Congress

Very, very true. If we rest, others will act and determine the future without us.
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