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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 08:03 PM
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I had to look up BP and in relation to the oil spill. While a chart may not quite work this way with companies (especially considering all the changes over the years) this is what it says about the date of organization:

In May 1901, William Knox D'Arcy was granted a concession by the Shah of Iran to search for oil which he discovered in May 1908.<7> This was the first commercially significant find in the Middle East. On 14 April 1909, the Anglo-Persian Oil Company (APOC) was incorporated to exploit this.<7> In 1923, the company secretly gave £5,000 to future Prime Minister Winston Churchill to lobby the British government to allow them to monopolise Persian oil resources.<8> In 1935, it became the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BP



What do you see, are they going to make good on cleaning up?

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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 09:14 PM
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1. My take on it

It all has to do with their Chiron return which is taking place now, along with Neptune (water, oceans) on the Chiron.

Hmmm

Given that they have 4 planets in Aries (very "self-oriented) and a Moon in Aquarius which can definitely lean way toward too much self interest....


And a Moon and Mars in Aquarius
And Uranus at the Solar midheaven. We have a very greedy, self absorbed entity.
The Chiron return in Aquarius has caught up with them.

The chart of BP is rather insignificant by itself because, I believe, the oil spill is the FLASHPOINT of the entire PLUTO IN CAPRICORN period so far. Why, because it's so transparent and is really testing the issue of ARE WE COLLECTIVELY GOING TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW THE OIL COMPANIES (AND BIG BUSINESS) TO OWN OUR POLITICIANS.

Their natal Jupiter opposite Chiron shows us some promise.

THAT'S THE POINT. They wont' be able to lie their way out of this one. And with all the Arian energy, they will insist, "I did nothing wrong."

Your question: "What do you see, are they going to make good on cleaning up?

Is not answerable. It's not BP that must clean up. It's US that made the mess collectively. We have to create a new way of governing, etc. I don't know, the whole issue is so big and is being covered in next month's newsletter.

Friggin astrology, never get a straight answer.

My answer is NO, I don't think they will. Regulation will have to take over. I don't expect anything to happen till Friday, one day after Uranus enters Aries - then I expect a BRILLIANT (Uranus), quick, innovative solution. I hope I'm right.

:hi:

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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:10 PM
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2. MIGHT this presage a BIG CHANGE
Edited on Tue May-25-10 10:13 PM by elleng
in the way we 'do business' in this country/democracy?

ps, Frontline rerunning report on Buffalo crash, and there's WV mine disaster, as well as Wall Street. With this President?
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:31 PM
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3. i sincerely believe that if it's not
Then that's the end of us.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:34 PM
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4. I'm with you on that, Rick.
The opportunity is here. Will humankind save itself?
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 12:58 AM
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6. I believe it will
how many people are now having second thoughts about drilling and our way of life because of this.

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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 12:53 AM
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5. very enlightening, as always
thank you.

Considering that right from the start they wanted to "monopolize", bribed Churchill, and all this conspiracy does not bode well on the karma front.

What bothers me at the moment in this whole tragedy is that there must be a reason why our prez is holding back. He went to the funeral of the miners and certainly expected him to go to the funeral of the workers on the rig, which to me was also a disappointment. But then, again I thought I learned not make expectations :banghead: I am grateful he came to support our Barbara, and I certainly do not want this Fiorina woman, but it could have waited.

The collective impact is perhaps we can finally put the lid on those Drill baby drill fools - pun intended.

You are right, BP is just one company and I would not be surprised if the majority of these big companies have similar energies of prominent "self-interest" within their charts.

Friday.....aha! Obama will be there - I knew you are the stealth astro consultant to the WH ;-)
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 02:39 PM
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7. Rick, have you heard about Kevin Costner's cleanup machine?
I thought it was more than ironic that the guy who made "Waterworld" might be able to assist in cleaning up the mess.

I hope someone can.

:hi:
-MV
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 03:02 PM
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8. Far out, exactly what I was saying
Edited on Wed May-26-10 03:03 PM by ricochetastroman
From Kostner's article:

"Costner's business partner in Ocean Therapy Solutions, Louisiana trial attorney John Houghtaling, said the machines could be in the water as early as Friday."

Uranus = novel, new ways, machines, high tech
In Aries, sudden direct approach
How cool is this?!

Thanks bunches, for more, see:

http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/bp-to-test-kevin-costners-oil-separation-technology-on-gulf-of-mexico-spill/19484937

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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 03:30 PM
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9. bless his heart
my impression of him was previously tarnished..
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 08:16 PM
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11. we ALL hope you're right on this one, Rick
They're re-starting the top kill at midnight on Friday. They may be included the rubber scraps and golf balls in this to try to plug the leaks. I guess too much mud is coming out the riser pipe...they need it to pack in and fill.

My understanding is the risk is that the BOP doesn't hold up to the enormous pressure on it. If it falls apart there will be nothing to stem the flow and it will go from massive to totally unchecked.

We need are collective energy to stop this thing.

At least Obama now is getting it and has suspended all new exploratory drilling in sensitive areas for 6 months, for review, regulations, rebuilding the regulatory agencies, etc....


I feel like it's NOW OR NEVER folks. Last shot.
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 04:01 PM
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10. I find that you must also be very careful
when accepting birthdata from outer sources. It can be very tricky. I've also noticed that many entities can have multiple birth times, such as when a car comes off of the assembly line, when it gets to the dealer, when someone signs a note to buy it, when someone drives it.

All the charts constructed for those times are accurate and must be studied and watched for a while under the effects of transits and progressions in order to "reverse-engineer" or work backwards until one of the proves itself to be truer than the others.

:hi:

r
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