I don't know how else to say this...

[Ricochet21]

I knew it was coming. Now, we me having studied Pluto for so many years and its entrance into serious Capricorn....
I don't want to be gloomy, but it is Pluto and I want to ask objectively of all of you:

I'm watching a lot of people close to me die. I.e., some physically, some mentally, some from long-standing emotional baggage, this n that. Some financially, some from old loves, etc. I mean they're just fading away in front of me.

Are you seeing it around you too? I really don't think I'm imagining it either. I think it's just all around and all I can do is stand by and watch with compassion.

You?

[I Have A Dream]

1. Yes.

:(

[BanzaiBonnie]

2. Yes

[Kookaburra]

3. Yes

It's disconcerting, and the funny thing is on some level I think I should be freaking out, but I can't get worked up into a freak-out over it. It feels like on a higher level, my soul knows it's going to work out, and things are going to get better.

Does that make sense?

[Ricochet21]

39. Yes that does.

[liberalmuse]

4. My mom is dying, and I'm pretty much already dead.

Or want to be. I'm so tired. Yes.

[I Have A Dream]

6. I'm so sorry to hear this, liberalmuse.

:(

If I can do anything at all to help you, please don't hesitate to ask. Really. :hug::hug::hug:

[liberalmuse]

13. I appreciat that.

Thank you. I'm just done. I'm tired of being angry at callous people who should know better. I'm tired of the bullshit. My brother was, too, and so was my dad. I really don't blame them.

[I Have A Dream]

16. If you need to talk, please let me know.

I will be available to you anytime. :hug: You are a special person who makes a real difference in the world, whether you believe it or not.

You feel it all so heavily because you're a compassionate person who wants people to act like decent human beings. :(

[northernlights]

7. I was that tired last year

:hug:

I didn't write this at the time, but when Jakey's hips and back healed I was partly relieved because now I felt free to leave if it came down to it. That all my critters were either adoptable...or so old that euthanasia was not out of the question...for them or for me.

Now I just want to walk away...

[liberalmuse]

12. I'm sorry...

I understand, but not really, because I probably haven't gone through half of what you have, but still, it's too much. We all have our limits. My dog will be cared for, so I don't worry about that, or anyone else, because I'm easily replaced. I just wish I had the balls and the will to help and comfort those people who are going through what you are, but I'm not special enough.

[I Have A Dream]

14. liberalmuse, you're wonderfully special.

I wish that you could see yourself the way I see you. :(

[liberalmuse]

52. You are so kind.

I'm more troubled than special. Thank you for your sweet words. It really means a lot! :hug:

[I Have A Dream]

55. Being more troubled than special doesn't make you not special.

We just need to help you to be less troubled; then you'll be able to see your wonderful "specialness" yourself. :)

[OneGrassRoot]

26. You are....

You are extraordinarily special.

You are....

:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

[liberalmuse]

53. I love youse guys.

You know how to make a person who's down feel better. Even if it is over the internets. That doesn't make it any less valuable. Been a really rough week. Time to re-evaluate things.

[I Have A Dream]

15. northernlights, as always, I send you light and love.

:loveya:

[catzies]

77. I am sorry for what you;ve been going through and I hope for better times for you

Sending you a hug :hug: and wishing you comfort, strength and peace.

And sleep.

[Habibi]

5. Um, you're scaring me.

What's the solution?

[Fire Walk With Me]

8. Ignoring the gloomers and staying in a positive place and direction.

Yes, change will be ugly, but don't sit in it. That's our responsibility.

I'm putting some light upon this stupid thread.

[Habibi]

9. Thank you, but, what do you mean

"that's our responsibility"?

[Fire Walk With Me]

81. To create what we want. We do it whether we mean to or not.

And now with the new energy, it becomes a direct responsibility.

Want gloom? Place your attention upon gloomy things. And know that this creation extends to those around you as well. You are responsible for what you create, and I find this thread to be a purposeful negative.

[I Have A Dream]

10. I don't think that it's stupid.

Rick gives support all the time. Right now it appears that he needs it. I'm happy to give it to him just as he's given it to me so many times.

[liberalmuse]

11. I simply can't go through 'Pigs At The Trough Part III'

I don't think anyone who went through what I and many others did during the Bush years should be expected to sit here and watch any more of the bullshit. I'm checking out.

[northernlights]

17. just don't watch it, liberalmuse

we need sometimes to look at it to remember where we are and keep our bearings and not get fooled.

But other times, we need to just not look at the mess.

To look at the wonders of earth. Go for a walk tomorrow and look at the trees...here in Maine they are in full color or a little past. The earth is still beautiful, and just breathing is enough.

Hug your doggie, liberalmuse.

:hug: :hug: :hug:

Let it all go. It doesn't matter. None of it matters. All that matters is each breath. Let it fill you, and the peace and joy of the universe fill you. None of the political crap is anything. There is no human accomplishment, no human achievement that is anything but crap compared to life...natural life.

Go outside and look at the stars and the moon, and feel the night air caress your face. That is all that matters...

[I Have A Dream]

19. Wonderful post, northernlights.

Sometimes we just need to remove ourselves from "civilization".

[OneGrassRoot]

27. Unplug...

It does become overwhelming...all the hatefulness especially.

I think we all need to consider unplugging from civilization as much as possible when the hatefulness is overwhelming.

:hug:

:cry:

[northernlights]

35. Unplug...perfect

When I say I want to walk away...that is what I mean. Just unplug from it all...

[Delphinus]

47. Yes to unplugging.

Simpler than running away.

[OneGrassRoot]

25. Yes :)

Thank you for posting this, NL. It's hard. It's all very, very hard. :(

Bless you, Bless Liberalmuse, Bless Rick, Bless everyone in this thread, Bless everyone who finds their way here, Bless your loved ones...

Blessings to all.


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[rucognizant]

36. Northernlights.you'll understand best.

I am spending 2 hrs daily with GOTV calls....... ( D & U REGISTERED)
VERY FEW ARE REFUSING TO GO THEY ARE ENTHuSIASTIC/DETERMINED...............This part waaaay downeast brought us W, BY ONLY 2 VOTES! for a 2nd round in 04............Because the papers publish town by town vote results you can see the farther downeast you go from Portland the more conservative it gets.
I am good at sales & the majority of confused or hesitant ( a small group compared to the ones who say "Oh YES I am going to go out & vote!"I have been able to clarify for them what's at stake.
I was disappointed last night that mpbn.net didn't live stream the debate at Bates College ( on SS I can no longer afford TV) & they also don't provide a video this AM, then HORRIFIED to hear that Paul Le Plague ( beyond the Palin)is at 40% & Libby Mitchell is only 28%, while the spoiler Cutler is catching up with her. I did see a blurb of the latter 2 on the P Press Herald site.........and viewing it did confirm my astrological analysis of Cutler as exemplifying "All that glitters is not gold" showy with his LEO SUN & MOON AND THE ASC Gemini.
I have hit the lower end of the downward spiral, in spite of valient efforts to get SOMETHING going, it accelarates as it goes down, & the opening at the bottom is looming large!
In the absence of any other way to make a living & because the citizens are an independant thinking lot, taking orders from a boss & punching a time clock not being a large part of it's history.....................we are on the leading edge of creating an economy of small ( tiny) businesses. I fear Plague will ruin that!
So am I wasting my efforts on the phone a every night.should I be doing my own artwork instead?.I KNOW THAT I WILL STEP UP EFFORTS TO REACH OUT TO OTHER AREAS, VIA INTERNET FOR SALES................
The bay was absolutely breaTHTAKINGLY MAGNIFICENT YESTERDAY............there is that comfort!

[liberalmuse]

54. Thank you. That is beautiful!

Trees have always given me solace - something about them - I love them! I have been hugging my sweet doggie lately. I love your positive outlook. You don't know how much your words mean to me. Just words - but so much more. :hug: Thank. You.

[Tsiyu]

24. Check this out: "Is Pronoia Just for Rich, Comfortable People? Part 4"

http://www.freewillastrology.com/horoscopes/horoscopes.main.html

Read all the way to the end.

This made sense to me today, about focus, etc. When I first read the title i said, "Fuck yeah! bastards!" And then I started to cry a little.

I've been through the ringer, too. I'm just determined to stick around and make trouble for those who have deeply troubled me! They know who they are, and until they make things right and stop hurting people, I am making it my mission to expose them, their double standards, their hypocrisy, their bigotry.

But why? Because the people they are hurting are very much treasures worth fighting for. So after I read that link up there at the top of this post, I worked on some writing and felt pissed, still, but recharged.

This link explains it better than I can.

Focus on tomorrow. Tomorrow will be better.


:thumbsup:

[northernlights]

18. last night I dreamed that my 87 year old father got on a plane

in Arizona and flew to the other side of the country to see me.

I don't think I actually met up with him in my dream, but can't quite remember.

I did wake up thinking he came to see me to say goodbye.

But no, I'm not seeing anybody around me dying. But I'm not close to anybody, either. I'm surrounded only a couple days each week by fellow students. We are all alive and in some degree or other struggling to get through it.

But I have noticed another batch of "notable people" checking out in the past week or two...

[Kind of Blue]

20. But, Rick, do you know how lovable

you are? I'm stealing from FWWM. I really give thanks for the way you've been preparing us for months now, keeping things in perspective so that we can at the very least, and as you say, be compassionate with each other and help each other as much as we can.

I hope this clip puts a smile on your face for a little while :loveya:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATUvyJNvFk0&feature=related

[I Have A Dream]

21. Oh, that's wonderful, Blue!

I never saw that movie. I think that I need to rent it. :)

:hug:

[Kind of Blue]

22. Dream, I think you would love it!

Grandma's metaphor has kept me going and always pops into my head, as to where on the roller coaster am I now.
My family is definitely on the stomach-churning downward slope but holding on tight and not jumping off the coaster. It's as simple but not as easy as that. We will survive and be back to tell of our various rides up. :hug:
Here's to us!

[I Have A Dream]

29. I'm going to have to find it!

Just wanted to tell you that I just realized that I always feel happier around you, Blue. :hug:

(I love the little cheerleader! :))

Yes, here's to us! :toast:

[FirstLight]

23. not death as much, maybe it is my age group...

mid30s-mid40s... seems like people around me are experiencing the manifestations that they SAY they could never handle, then when faced with that huge shift, find they have the strength to forge ahead...with grace and joy at their freedom.
one friend was in a loveless marriage and had resigned herself to live like that until her kids were in middle school or later, because she was 'comfortably numb' but still the other show dropped this summer and the shit hit the fan and now they are living spearately and she is finding a newfound peace, not having to live with the daily bullshit...she is able to flourish inside. now don;t get me wrong, the struggle of her work and alimony and co-parenting etc are truly hard and not fun and she has her days when she worries that things could fall apart even more...but she has a house, she has her kids most of the time, and she has two days off a week to really just BE with herself and nourish that piece...which is what needs alot of healing anyway...
and another friend had been partying too much, lamenting how she hated her job as a corporate lawyer, but she could never go back to family law because of the money she was making and the need to pay the student loans, she felt trapped. she was originally from the midwest and nevada was NOT a healthy place to be either. lots less culture and way more drinking....she had tried a few times to stop hanging with the usual crowd and that just made her more acutely aware of the emptiness of her daily job. well she got fired, for something stupid too...and she is moving back home and going back to practice law that she was meant to do, maybe even take classes and pass the bar in the neighboring state and work in a field she had always wanted to.the student loan is now deferred and she created the space to do what she wanted to after all... and her ability to justy shift gears has been remarkable.


I guess the theme with these stories is - once the other shoe drops, just take it in stride and watch how much you can thrive.

[LaurenG]

28. There are lots of changes and sometimes those seem like death

The baggage we carry is also just popping open for all to see for many people. I have been on an angry road for a long time now, I think it has served a purpose, at least in my mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHvf20Y6eoM


To everything (turn, turn, turn)
There is a season (turn, turn, turn)
And a time for every purpose under heaven.

A time to be born, a time to die
A time to plant, a time to reap
A time to kill, a time to heal
A time to laugh, a time to weep.

A time to build up, a time to break down
A time to dance, a time to mourn
A time to cast away stones
A time to gather stones together.

A time of war, a time of peace
A time of love, a time of hate
A time you may embrace
A time to refrain from embracing.

A time to gain, a time to lose
A time to rend, a time to sew
A time of love, a time of hate
A time of peace. . .I swear it's not too late.

[Fire Walk With Me]

80. Odd... I always thought it was "There is a seagull; tern tern tern."

I kid.

[stellanoir]

30. Sending best comfort for all the sensitives feeling the intensity

of these harrowing transitional times. The collective energies can indeed be oppressively toxic.

They are designed to make us cave.

Not meaning to be overtly callous yet this is what I sense. . .

Very simply, this is a time to choose life or death.

The planet is changing. It needs to do so as do we all.

Every thought, every feeling, word, action, and deed reverberates on unprecedented levels.

Consider trying to remember on your deepest and most soulful level of knowing, the reason you chose to incarnate in these times.

You may just be pleasantly surprised.

To put it bluntly, despite all appearances it's not a time for lightweights or "dabblers"

These energies have been previously unavailable to humanity on this sphere.

Psssssssssssssssttt . . .

They are interactive.

Take it seriously, but try to play whenever and wherever possible.

:grouphug:

[I Have A Dream]

31. These are very important words.

:)

Thank you!

[OneGrassRoot]

33. Thank you....

It is harrowing.

I send hugs of love and support to all other sensitives feeling the pain to the depths of our souls....

[Ricochet21]

45. I really like what you have said here

As always, you're right on the money. What good insight. Thanks S. :hi:

[rosesaylavee]

32. 4 memorial services in an 8 day period in October....

2 retired age friends, 1 friend close to my age and a good friend's mom.

I am hoping this isn't a trend.

[I Have A Dream]

34. I'm sorry, rosie.

:(

:hug:

[Mist]

37. Michael Tsarion says Pluto is like a doctor, only in a spiritual sense. Pluto demands that

we take stock of where we are and get rid of crud we don't need. I'm concentrating a lot lately on "stuff" to get rid of, and I don't mean physical stuff! I'm trying to be accepting of Pluto's energies, even if it comes to getting rid of cherished illusions and memories that, while not seeming negative to me, may be holding me back somehow. I'm trying to get on board with letting Pluto set the agenda, not just me.

[Ricochet21]

42. How very fine a response.

You're saying it just like it is and your reply is textbook. I like you "flowing with it" type of answer. How wise and timely for you!

[seabeyond]

38. i am in like a bubble.... my wold brite and lite... but beyond that

the 3d world, yes. interesting question i hadnt reflected on.

[Howler]

40. Yes.

In multiples.

[Ricochet21]

41. Howl to you... I guess a better follow-up question is:

Why do you think this is happening. When you think about each "case", I mean. My astrological answers have been well known. How do you all see it?

Thanks

[Howler]

43. This video expresses what I have no words for Ricochet 21

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdYWuo9OFAw



Though when I die I will request a spirit Ombudsman to file a series of grievances with "Upper management" Snort!

[kimmerspixelated]

48. I know you didn't ask me, but

I am having trouble releasing some emotions and it may be manifesting into symptoms, but I see this generally as a sense of a lot of electrical/plasma in the air? The air is volatile, and it has been too much for some of us.

[Ricochet21]

49. Hey pix

The whole issue anymore seems to be releasing emotions. Pluto purges and this is the very best things you can do. I don't know much about volatile electrical/plasma in the air.

Sounds like energy to me.

I really recommend Dr. David Hawkins, "Healing and Transformation" book. It's a great guide to releasing old junk.
My take is the secret is letting it go, reexperiencing old stuffed pain and watching it surface on it's own accord.

I do believe that that is at the source of all of this "death" I'm watching. It's people who can't let it go, won't or are simply too overwhelmed by the amount of it.

As I said before, Pluto will work with us, the simple answer: Having the intent to let it go is good enough. (God, Holy Spirit, Nature, Pluto) whatever you call it, will do the "work" for you. My 2 cents.

Good luck
I hope it helps. Unfortunately, I don't have your chart information. :hi:

[kimmerspixelated]

51. Would you like my chart information?

I'm afraid moolah is quite tight though, I don't expect freebies.. But I am thankful for the info about Healing and Transformation-D. Hawkins. Sounds good. I have read Emotional...? by Judith Ivey, and The Healing Codes, basically if you can de-stress and get your cellular memory to release and to be filled with light thru prayer and certain hand movements on facial/ accupressure points and re-fill with the a truth focus statement,it brings you back to health. I believe it works. Thanks Rick, you're the best!:hi:

[SheilaT]

44. Nope.

I feel I need to post something a little more positive. No deaths around me. I'm 62, so I know lots of people who are moving up into that age range.

The reality is that every single day thousands of people die just in this country alone. We pay attention to clusters that are meaningful to us, so everyone here who has noticed deaths of loved ones are doing exactly what we are all programmed to do: make sense of random events.

As for me personally, two years ago I relocated across the country (from Kansas to New Mexico) after a divorce and started a whole new life. I recently became a hypnotherapist, I have good friends here, good friends back in Kansas and in other places. I find it easier and a lot better to notice the good in life. It's not a perfect life by any means, but I prefer to gloss over the less-than-perfect aspects and notice what is good.

[Delphinus]

46. "Stand by and watch with compassion."

Yes. Hard to do.

[Ricochet21]

50. Very, very hard

but the more we do it, the easier it gets.

[davsand]

56. I have hit a sort of "disconnect."

Seems like the last five years have been one long sequence of bad things going down around me. My father died by inches, my husband had his heart attack, my dad finally did pass, my Mother In Law fought and lost to her cancer, my mom had a heart attack and then a quad bypass, and there was all the crap with my workplace...

And ya know what? I'm still standing. Most of the people I love did manage to come thru it alive, and the ones who didn't are no longer suffering. It all passed--maybe slowly, and most certainly in a painful way--but I did manage to survive it with some sort of sanity intact. The ONE thing I have taken from all of this has been that sometimes I just hit overload and I have to take a bit to re-charge and renew. It bums me out for sure that I have zero to give to anybody else during those times, but it also taught me that when I DO have the ability to help I need to make the most of it. For me this was very much about realizing that I am finite and my energy is finite, and my ability to impact on stuff is every bit as limited as my physical strength. I can't LIFT a car, I can only learn to take it apart and lift a part at a time.

Rick, you give a lot of yourself to the world (as do many on here) but there does come a time when you need to maybe step back and regroup. If your heart is breaking (which you have also confronted in a literal way in the recent times...) you might want to step back a bit.

Brightest Blessings to you all.



Laura

[Ricochet21]

57. Good advice, Laura

I will take it and step back.
One thing I do disagree with however in your post, YOU, are not finite. Your power is very strong. Thanks

[davsand]

59. Rick, I am pretty much the typical Taurus (as you well know...)

The day I realized that I really DO have to take time to heal, and really do not have the physical stamina for certain stuff, my pride suffered hugely! I really am NOT the invincible teen I want to see myself as. If I over do it at the gym these days it IS gonna hurt the next day, and it isn't like it was when I was 20 and could feel fine after nothing more than a warm shower. These days, if I've over-reached I'm talking hot showers, heat pads, and pain killers--and that is just to get a pair of jeans on! My butt has enough lead in it that I am probably protected from any form of radiation sickness!

The reality is that I am 50 years old and I'm probably NOT gonna ever be Miss America or probably not gonna swim the English Channel. It isn't so much that I ever aspired to either of those things, but more the realization that because I chose not to make those things a priority earlier in my life they are now off the table. (BTW, I would have kicked ASS on the interview part of the Miss America thing because I have ALWAYS wanted world peace!!)

I realize my comments sound borderline of silly, but I am trying to make a point here. I figure I have been gifted with an amount of time that I can make an impact in this world--be it a positive one or a negative one. Dunno for sure how much time is on that meter, but I figure I'll run it out as best I can, in the way that I am comfortable with. I have always tried to bring something positive to the table and to leave things a little bit better than I found them. Can't say that I've always managed to accomplish that, but I CAN say that I've had a pretty good time and have not tried to hurt anybody along the way. (I figure that may be about the best I am gonna be able to claim while it is still a work in progress--ya know?)

Anyhow, as much as I'd like to change some things, I just cannot do it. I cannot take away my Mom's pain at losing my Dad . I don't own that and it isn't mine to take. I can do what I am able to keep her busy and involved in our lives so she doesn't feel quite so alone, but that is about the best I can do for her.

Again, this realization of my limits was a very real awakening for me--and it was every bit as pivotal as realizing I was getting older.




Bless you, dear, for being who you are. I hope you know how valued you really are!


Laura

[Ricochet21]

60. Yes, I guess that's what I'm saying

I don't think it's just because I had heart surgery last year...
or that my 2nd Saturn return is next month...

I think it is Pluto teaching us that in this incarnation, we are mortal and to appreciate each day. I really believe that so many are "failing" around me is because we haven't been taught the real things we needed to learn in the early days, like coping with emotions and dealing with the stress of relationships, etc.

But, I also think it's because pre-PL-in-Capricorn, I think collectively, we just slacked. Especially, when PL was in Sag from 1995-2008.

Oh well, here we are, we can appreciate each day forward and not get stuck in how "ugly the other side is." That's isn't true, it's all us. Hard to remember.

[OneGrassRoot]

61. Thanks davsand and Rick....

:grouphug: to you both for the challenges you continue to endure...not an easy time and hasn't been for quite a while, it seems.

Rick wrote: "...not get stuck in how "ugly the other side is." That's isn't true, it's all us. Hard to remember."

I'm trying to figure out how to do that right now. When complete detachment isn't an option (I can do that fairly well), I'm having to learn to navigate relationships I view as toxic and not be consumed by the toxicity. I'm trying to find my way.

I guess we all are.

:grouphug:

[Howler]

58. Great Insight DavSand.

I'm sorry to hear about the sickness and death in your family.
In 2003 I lost my Grandma,younger brother and Mom in a period of 18 months.
I wonder why death seems to come in clusters.....???????

[davsand]

62. Howler I wish I knew the answer to that question.

Seems to me that there has always been "the rule of three" when it comes to pretty much anything--including death. Makes me wonder sometimes...

:shrug:


I have never believed that our souls end when our bodies cease function, but when you lose someone dear to you it can be difficult to hold onto that thought. Please know you have my deepest sympathies on your losses.


Laura

[Ricochet21]

63. When Pluto is active in our charts

it often bring deaths in 3's. That is an old "rule" of astrology. HOWEVER, I have seen many, many times that it's not true. I don't know why it is pretty common, but it certainly is not a hard and fast rule.

Remember, PL is squaring Saturn too right now, so this seriousness is quite the mark of the two combined. The good side is that, yes, we need to get serious about a lot of things. That's why you're seeing it!

But, by all means, lets have some fun too! Enjoy life! Yes. :hi:

[OneGrassRoot]

65. Interestingly, I'm dealing with three "situations"....

battles, deaths, whatever....there are clearly three.

:hug:

[Habibi]

74. I think Stella's response above opened something up in

me on Friday. I'd been struggling, then my husband came to town for the weekend and we decided to have a "date night"--just the two of us. We had a blast! No talking about the current annoying situation, just a good time together.

I guess I'm really responsive right now to the suggestion to have *fun*, and it's funny, 'cause I haven't been for awhile. Seems to have reset some of my attitude. So thanks to you and Stella and all the folks here for that recommendation. It's a breath of clean, fresh air, and makes some of the cobwebs go away. We forget that joy can be just as close as sorrow sometimes.

[Howler]

64. Davsand, You have my sympathies on your losses too.

So does Rick.
I feel lucky in that with Ozzy it was out of the blue and he died quickly. I never really got a chance to say goodbye and tell him how much he meant to me.
With Igore We get to spoil him and love on him till the inevitable comes.
In some ways its easier, in some ways its harder.
I really don't know what the lesson is except to realize how fragile life is and how time marches on to its inevitable conclusion and what a priceless gift all the people and critters are that come into our life to spend time with us .

[OneGrassRoot]

66. ....

I think about you and Ozzy so often and send :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

:hug: to Igore as well.

:hi:

[Howler]

68. Thank You OneGrassRoot.

Igore has taken to the "Whatever and whenever Igore wants Igore gets" policy like a fish to water. LOL!
Our Pug Thurber, however is just not so pleased with this new development. After all she is a scorpio and is the queen of Howlerville.snort.Man is she in a pouty snit.

[Ricochet21]

67. "So does Rick"?

I'm sorry, maybe I left the wrong impression. When PL hit me 10 years ago, I lost my mom and dad and brother (at age 52.)
Right now, I'm not "losing" anyone. When I make posts like this I'm referring to my clients and family. My family is hurting in many ways; many of my clients have "died" or are dying inside from their habits, I would call it.

Nevertheless, it is a hard subject to speak of clearly. It is PL/Saturn. Thank your Howler

This whole thing is no complex mystery from some woo woo planet.

We all say things like, "It's going to eventually catch up with you." Don't we? Well, now is the time it caught up. That's what astrology is, in part, it's a map/calendar of when those times peak/subside, etc.

[Delphinus]

89. I am right there,

feeling/knowing that our souls continue when we leave this earthly plane - but this year, when challenged with death, I find myself really struggling with that. And, therein lies my lesson. I know that just as strongly as I know *we* really don't die.

[get the red out]

69. This thread is ROUGH!

But yes, I have noticed so much of what Rick said.

The hatefulness tends to make ME hateful right back, but other times all the screeching just sounds like a flock of noisy birds flying around aiming their bombs at everyone's car. Surely to God they can't just make a racket and shit all over everything forever??????

I wonder what to do with myself sometimes, how to survive when a lot of the time anymore I just feel like a fool to have ever said the word hope. Sometimes I wonder if the spiritual really exists why does all the bad have to happen, how can people be so blind and in fear of each other instead of the big guys that are crapping all over all of us?

I am hoping for hope. I pray I can just step outside this nastiness and how it affects me inside and see the world around me that exists out of step with the human created sludge. Just breathe the air and bend down for doggie kisses.... The really good things don't know about the crap going on that makes me so insane.

My biggest fear right now is not to let negative emotions take over my mind and body if my husband (brain-washed Republican) is too happy day after tomorrow. Nothing is worth having my mind charged with rage. It's all artificial anyway on this level, like watching a stupid football game and rooting for different teams in a way. It doesn't make dinner or take out the trash. I hope I can let it go.

[Proud_Lefty]

71. I'm with you, 1000% gtro

It's getting nuts out there. Last week and this past weekend felt like the last straw. I'm looking at all these people wondering why it's so clear to me and so many others just don't get it. I fought with a few people this weekend, people I thought would have known better.

[Delphinus]

90. Amen!

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[catzies]

70. Five deaths in my family (close and extended) from Sep 09-Jul 09

And ALL but one were the men. Isn't that weird??? I lost my father, my uncle and my godfather and my brother lost his father-in-law.

[Howler]

72. I'm so sorry Catzies.

Wow! I don't even know what to say.Hang in there.
Talk about a cluster f$ck.

[catzies]

75. Thanks Bonnie, that's very sweet of you.

:hug:

[Howler]

79. Ummmmmmmm.

I mean everything I said Catzies....... but I'm not Bonnie.
But If will make you feel any better you can call me Bonnie.:hug:

[catzies]

86. I am so sorry I made such a silly mistake. Hugs all around.

:(

:hug:

[Howler]

87. No need to apologize Catzies.

I don't mind. I just didn't want you to be disappointed later that I wasn't Bonnie who I'm sure is a really great person.:hug:

[catzies]

88. As are you. Hope you had a lovely day.

Hugs are great we all should have more of them :hug:

[Ricochet21]

73. I am sorry too.

My condolences

[catzies]

76. Thank you Rick and bless your heart (I really mean that)

and not in the "Southern" way.

I really mean BLESS your HEART :) "loveya:

[katty]

78. Yes, those I know and know of seem to welcome the

transformation whether it be physical or in other areas of their life.

[Ricochet21]

82. Yes, I see that a lot too

and that's the way it "should" be used. I feel for those who have overwhelmed with loss.

[Howler]

83. Rick

You are just a really great person and a wonderfully soothing influence here.
I think they call folks like you healers.:toast:

[Ricochet21]

84. Where I come from ...

they call us drunks. lol :hi:

[Howler]

85. LOL!!!!! n/t

n/t