So, has there been like some obscure planetary re-alignment?

[hootinholler]

Or is there just too much bullshit to keep it covered up?

I'm asking about the flurries of indictments, etc. this week.

-Hoot

[Trillo]

1. I'm anticipating the Yod

between Sun sextile Pluto both quincunx Mars as one time to watch. October 14 or 15 is when it's most exact.

[suziedemocrat]

2. Sounds intense (plus eclipse) -- any more info? Links? eom.

[Trillo]

5. There's been a whole series of Yods in the last month.

Yods show us where things are fated. The quincunx (150°) is related to a semi-sextile (30°) because 180° - 30° = 150°, and these are both first seen as conjunctions in a 12th harmonic chart. Semi-sextiles and Yods are considered difficult aspects. One less common variant of the Yod includes an opposition along its length, and one of the Yods of the 10/3/05 solar eclipse chart includes Mars opposition Venus, but it's more exact one day earlier.

Here are some of the minor recent-past Yods:

9/17/2005 Moon sextile Mars and both quincunx Jupiter.
9/26/2005 Mars sextile Moon and both quincunx Pluto.
9/27/2005 Moon sextile Sun and both quincunx Uranus.
9/30/2005 Saturn sextile Sun both quincunx Uranus with Moon on midpoint (semi-sextile) of Saturn/Sun and opposed Uranus.

In the solar eclipse chart, 10/3/05 10:27 GMT, when Moon and Sun conjunct, two Yods are prominent.

1. Saturn sextile (Sun and Moon) both quincunx Uranus.
2. Mercury sextile Pluto both quincunx Mars.

One day earlier, Yod number two was Jupiter sextile Pluto both quincunx Mars and both semi-sextile Venus, with Venus opposing Mars.

I wrote a little bit about the series of Yods and Cheney (mostly technical instead of interpretive) in this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=245&topic_id=12518&mesg_id=12561

There are critical natal chart points of Cheney's relating to the transiting Mars direct-retrograde-direct stations.

I'm anticipating the Yod of the 15th because the planetary energies combine with Cheney's Uranus and suggest intervention of some sort and restriction or confinement. Cheney's natal Uranus conjuncts the transiting Mars retrograde(Yod) at that time. One eclipse Yod points at Uranus and the other at Mars, and causes me to take note of the involvement of Cheney's natal Uranus with the Yod of Oct 14/15. The many series of Yods formed with Mars quincunx Pluto (slowest changing aspect) is hammering at Cheney.


For the rest of us, in a global transit sense, Yod #2 grants some communicative power, while Yod #1 will be experienced as stressful with quickly changing events and circumstances. We are individually affected when these points conjunct or otherwise aspect our own natal charts.

Mars and Pluto quincunx is one major longer-term theme because it's a slower changing aspect--raw, brute-force power.
The other major theme is Saturn quincunx Uranus, one energy being the solution to the other--restriction, tension, and its release.

[Shine]

3. Isn't Mars going retrograde any second now?

I'm a bit hazy on the details, but check out these websites for more info:

http://astroworld.us/

http://www.celestialweather.com/

:hi:
~Shine

[robertarctor]

4. Mars went retrograde yesterday.

[Shine]

6. Well, there ya go!

:hi:

~Shine

[hootinholler]

7. Apologies for appearing to have been a drive-by...

I really was serious about this question. I didn't explain the depth of my ignorance about this stuff.

So Mars, is a war thingy, right? Retrograde would mean that war is waning?

About YODs and qui, er, um, that other stuff might as well be written in cuneform, so...

Can you explain this as if I'm a child?

-Hoot

[Trillo]

10. What is a Yod?

Imagine a circle of 360 degrees. Within that circle, a 3-body Yod is a (perhaps "grand") chart pattern comprising three bodies with two 150-degree and one 60-degree aspects between them. A 150-degree aspect is known as a quincunx, and a 60-degree aspect is known as a sextile.

These aspects or angles are measured from the center of the circle, not from an apex point as is common in geometry when working with triangles. To draw a Yod on a piece of paper, first draw a nice circle then make a tick at some point on that circle, then measure 150 degrees (in either direction) around the circle, make another tick, measure 60 degrees (in the same direction as previously chosen), make a final tick mark, then note that there are 150 degrees remaining to the first tick mark. This cuneiform or wedge shape is known as a Yod to astrologers.

A 4-body Yod comprises all of the 3-body Yod's structure, and adds another point between the 3-body's two points in 60-degree or sextile aspect, creating two additional 30-degree angles and a 180-degree angle to the 3rd body or 'point' of the Yod or wedge. A 30-degree angle is known as a semi-sextile, and a 180-degree angle or aspect is known as an opposition.

One must remember that planets do not stop moving, so these chart patterns keep changing when looking at the dynamics of global transits over time. A Yod of the slower planets (slow moving relative to the circle) which aspect or make angular relationships to each other move into (applying) and out of (separating) aspect slower relative to the inner, faster moving planets. A Yod with one point comprising the Moon may only last an hour or two, while a Yod of only outer planets will be formed for a significantly longer time period.

Whenever a quincunx is formed in a chart of the moment comprising slow moving planets, it's possible a Yod either has formed in the recent past or will form in the near future as the faster moving planets move around a point 60 degrees from either bodies in quincunx aspect.

There have been a whole series of Yods formed in the last month alone, around some slower changing quincunxes, so perhaps that is part of the reason for your confusion. Explaining a changing visual phenomenon in words perhaps makes it seem more complex.

HOWEVER, these same Yods have not formed in the heliocentric chart.

Regarding Mars being a harbinger of war, that is one of its historical interpretations, but another term for Mars symbology is simply "action" or "doing something."

There are several different ways that retrograde cycles are used by astrologers. One way is that the direct movement's symbolical phenomenon (whatever occurred) may be revisited while in retrograde, leading to a resolution of some kind at the point of stationary direct (when it comes out of apparent retrograde) or when it rejoins the chart point or degree where stationary retrograde occurred.

This is certainly not all that can be said, but I've gone on for far too long as it is. Hope it helped you understand a little.

[JPace]

8. It is really sad to see what has happened to Astrology here since

a few refused to let it move into its own room. I suspect it was time for it to have a place of its own and it needed to evolve into something more vibrant for everyone. Now it is all but dead. I believe it was something like 26 people who wanted the change, that is a lot energy that has been lost.
Maybe someday it will become vibrant again, who can say? But I do hope that if some other group wants to move on and evolve that they are allowed to do so without resentment.
Just my point of view. I miss those lively discussions.
:cry:

[magnolia]

9. hootinholler asks an honest question...

...expresses a real interest and even admits ignorance. And this is how you answer!

If you aren't in this to help others, then you are only in it to stroke your own ego...and who needs that????

Get over yourself!