Are "Love" and "Liberalism" the same thing?

[Why Syzygy]

"Love" has a stigma among some. It seems to mean, "I WANT something".

I don't see it that way. To me, "Love" means, I believe in you and want the best for you, whatever your path. Just don't step on anyone else while you're at it, and we can be at peace.

It also means, your welfare is important to me. The RW has tarnished the meaning of "welfare". It means
wel·fare ( P ) Pronunciation Key (wlfâr)
n.

Health, happiness, and good fortune; well-being.
Prosperity.

Is this the fundamental difference between progressives and fascists? (don't even kid yourself that they are "conservative")
They want the opposite of what we do? They want death and destruction and greed at all costs?

Are "Love" and "Liberalism" the same? Or do I still have idealistic tendencies?

[mntleo2]

1. Love Is Creation In Motion

Many people think that love is something soft. It is not. Love is far stronger than any other force. It is what makes things grow. The goddess Shiva, is portrayed as both the destroyer and the creator. In physics it says, "...nothing is ever destroyed, it is merely reorganized..." Creation is painful because it comes out of the destruction of something else ~ and between humans love is always a struggle, because love is a process of growth, of giving birth.

Most conservatives IMO see love as 'control'. "...If you love me, you will do what I want (or say)," or "I am making you do this for your own good.." There is little consideration as to what the object of love needs, it has more to do with what the person who is doing the loving thinks the other needs - which in reality is more about what the lover needs, and has little to do with the 'lovee'. They need to control the other because this is the only way they think they can ensure a guarantee of the outcome.

A liberal lover says, "let them (the lovee) go where they want..." An act of love can be to let someone go, because that is the best for THEM. it is also good for the lover because holding someone when they are not wanting to be there, is not fruitful for either. It is often painful and scary to love in this way because you DO lose people this way. I have found however, letting someone go is for the best for everyone. Sometimes they come back, sometimes they don't, either way it is for the best (but hard to do, I know).

Creation comes out of destruction, this is always the way it is. A star explodes and sends its pieces out into the heavens where it becomes something else. I think we humans are a microcosm of this. We can try to stop creation, but the force of love is too strong. It is like trying to stop a birth when it is about to come forth. I often tell my kids that you can hold a proverbial gun to someone's head and "make" them do what you want, but the only true way to change someone's heart comes out of love. Love takes a long time, forcing is quicker and always insincere. The outcome is better for all when something is done out of love. Love is a big word, it means a lot of different things, but most of all I think love is a creative force and this force can be both terrifying as well as joyful.

My two cents

Cat In Seattle <---who believes she was put on this earth this time around to learn how to love. Love has given me a lot of heartache, but also some of the wildest joy and was always worth it, even if the other did not appreciate it ~ it was their loss!

[Why Syzygy]

2. Very well put!

Thanks for expanding. I could not agree more!