I know some people are skeptical about Sylvia Browne on

[Cleita]

this forum and I have been one of them. But lately I have been watching her on "The Montel Williams" show every Wednesday. Most of her predictions are of a personal nature, but on yesterday's show, a rerun from last September, she did a quick prediction about the state of our country then. I must say that Sylvia does fascinate me on Montel’s show, a show I never watch except when she’s on.

She said that the things we hate about our government were going to start coming to a head around spring of this year and are going to start unraveling. I'm paraphrasing this because I don't remember her exact words but their meaning.

She said there would be a lot of unrest but by the end of the year those in power, who are causing all the things we have hated that were happening until now, will be gone. I went to the Montel Williams website and found nothing posted there about this particular thing. So I went to the predictions section of her website. Again, there was nothing that specific there about this particular prediction.

http://www.sylvia.org/home/2000plus.cfm

Now I'm beginning to wonder if she said it at all. But it is similar to other predictions about this administration. If she did in fact say this and I heard it right, is it possible that we are beginning to finally see the beginning of the end of the neo-cons? Could the Cindy's arrest at the SOS be the beginning of the fall of the Bush Empire?

Also, I was particularly drawn to her prediction #15 on her website There will be no US Presidency; our government will go back to a Greek Senate structure. Strangely enough, I have been thinking lately about why we even need a president. I thought it peculiar that this came up in her predictions because lately I have been thinking the same. It would seem we could keep a cabinet appointed by Congress, with each cabinet member assuming the role of executive officer for a certain amount of time during their term, with each one taking a turn at serving as president of the cabinet.

Sometimes the way future predictions come to me is with me thinking about certain things as if they are original thoughts within me. When the future comes out the way I was thinking, then it occurs to me that I was getting a message about the future. There are so many things about the spirit world that Sylvia and I are on the same page about that it is creepy, because I have never followed her before and came to the same conclusions independently of her.

Like when my husband died, I wasn't consciously thinking about him dying, and I fought the idea. However, now I realize that thoughts were intruding in my mind about how I was going to take care of his remains and reorganize my life. I kept pushing those thoughts out of my mind, because I didn't want to think about those things, but now I realize I was getting a message that he was going to die very soon.

So I wonder how can I separate the thoughts that seem to be messages about the future from random musings that I have? I wonder how people like Sylvia do it? Sometimes I fight these thoughts because they are outcomes that I don’t consciously want.

Also, is Sylvia the real deal?

[LaurenG]

1. Clieta

I have to say this is precisely what I have personally gotten for this year. For some reason since gwb has been rearing his ugly head I have "known" almost exactly what he would do pretty close to when.

My predictions on timing are the hardest but the info is so nearly correct that I usually trust myself. I will say November the way it looks now. I did "know" that alito would be sworn in and I was sad about it and only mentioned it once in the threads and I am pretty clear on gwb. I wrote a scathing letter in 2000 to every person I knew about him, and it stated the things that are happenng now would happen. I will try to find it and post it. I believe Sylvia is correct and I thank you for writing about it because I really needed to hear this from someone else. I know that there are possiblities that the chain of events could happen sooner, in fact I get so excited that I delude myself on timing issues.

The only way I know to get clear on your "hits" is to keep listening. Just let yourself hear what you get. No one is EVER right on everything so don't be afraid to be wrong. We all have to figure out what to listen to but practice with friends if you can it really does help.

So as far as gwb he is a maggot and he will be uncvered shortly, however there are bigger maggots behind him. I also look for their undoing this year but I am not as clear on them as the are unknown to me. Again thank you for posting this. :hug:

[MissWaverly]

2. Does it help if we meditate on positive outcome for country

Would it help, progress is so slow, like the Plame investigation, or the Abramoff investigation, can positive imagery help?

[Cleita]

3. Oh, I believe it can.

I think this is really what the power of prayer is about. It's meditating on what we would like to happen. We need to contact those spirits or angels if you prefer and get them to pay attention. Sometimes I think if we had a group think about this, it would have a real effect.

[MissWaverly]

8. Count me in

I remember how my parents really believed in this country, they never had what the Bush
family had, but they were proud of what they did have and worked hard to get it, they
were passionate about politics, although my dad was a laborer, he still went to the
Democratic $50.00 dinners for hot dogs and beans. It's not about the winning, I want
this country to work again and be for the working people.

[Bluestar]

4. I heard her say it too

Hi Cleita:

I have similar feelings about Sylvia Browne. I've been wondering how authentic she is, but I'm fascinated when Montel has her on and have to watch. I heard her talking about politicians who are doing us harm will be gone within the year, and that the public will start waking up in the Spring.

I have read a couple of her books and I think her description of the other side is the best, most detailed account I have seen. It resonated with me when I read it and I've never forgotten it.

I absolutely think that all of our political problems are a reflection of our country at this time. We are going through a huge lesson, having to put up with Bushco, but I believe it will come out OK. My guides tell me to send light to each one of them--light will bring out the truth and raise our country's frequency. My mantra since November 2004 has been "The truth will come out, the people will see". It's the only thing that keeps me sane.

Stay in the light,
Bluestar

[tanyev]

5. Wow. Imagine how bad the revelations would have to be

to just do away with the presidency.

[saracat]

6. Is she intimationg Bush will be the last president of the Us? Surely not?

[BlueIris]

7. I've heard her claim a number of times that the U.S. will eliminate

the concept of the one-man presidency. A claim I'm dubious of, because it's something the hard-rightists have been saying was their endgame for almost fifty years. The correlation between S.B.'s predictions and the desires of those in the far right community is the most questionable thing about S.B. in my eyes.

[Cleita]

10. It could be that she is right though, whether it's a good thing

or not. Like I said before I have rejected thoughts of the future because I don't like them. I have a problem with her money grubbing, but yet she's compelling. She seems to not be that neo-con to me. She talks a lot about curing diseases and about really social and communal things.

I think I will have to observe her more.

[FreedomAngel82]

18. So that would mean doing away with what's in the Constitution right?

That would be illegal.

[Idylle Moon Dancer]

22. Constitutional Convention?

[Cleita]

9. What I think is that the presidency will be considerably

weakened because of Bush. The political plays to concentrate power in a dictatorship, and in this case the president of the US, who as it turns out is just an MC for those who are really wielding the power, will backfire and instead of making it stronger will diminish the power of the office.

Somewhere along the line, it will be realized that we don't really need a President who is a kinglike person. We just need a spokesperson for the nation when times dictate.

[Zen Democrat]

11. Sylvia Browne predicted that Kerry will be elected president in 2008.

She made this prediction on Coast To Coast AM on January 3. A synopsis of her predictions can be read here:

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2006/01/03.html

In short, she says Kerry will win a close election against McCain. The only scenario in which I think Kerry would be renominated in 2008 is if the 2004 election fraud is proven and accepted by the American people.

A couple of years ago I heard her predict that George W. Bush would be reelected in 2004, but that a Democrat would win in 2008 and that Republicans wouldn't win the White House in at least the next fifty years.

[Cleita]

12. That's an interesting link. Thanks! n/t

[Idylle Moon Dancer]

13. I wonder when she made prediction about insulin replacement

considering the recent announcement of inhaled insulin. Not a replacement, per se, but certainly an advance in treatment.

I wonder how easy or difficult was it to find info about that while it was developed and tested.

[BlueIris]

14. Ah ha. So, she shares my Kerry/McCain prediction, eh?

Well...okay, I'll keep listening, I guess.

[hippiechick]

15. I hate to go here, but ...

... define "win". The GOP hasn't "won" the WH in the last 4 elections, but Cokeboy is still living at 1600.

[Cleita]

16. Perhaps a better way of putting it would be to say that they

gained control of the White House in 2000. Winning an election had nothing to do with it.

[FreedomAngel82]

20. According to most people they have

whether or not they really "won" or not. So I believe that's where she is coming from. Not necessarily legitimate or not but sworn in etc.

[FreedomAngel82]

19. Seriously?

Oh how nice that would be. I have had the VERY VERY strong feeling that Kerry will be president. I've even had visions (with my eyes) of him winning and being sworn in. I didn't see John Edwards though so I don't know who will be his VP choice. Would that mean no republican president's or just the democrats will be in the majority? There is a quote from Eisenhower how if anybody tries to mess with social security they will never be heard of from again. The republicans have all lied and taken this country so backwards and than with the fundies.

[FreedomAngel82]

17. Well I remember reading

about how she lied in a book she wrote. I don't remember where from now though. I just feel very weird vibes from her so I don't trust her.

[Cleita]

21. She has a lot of things about her that are not to like.

Yet, she seems to be attuned to things in the universe. I will keep a skeptical eye on her.

It bothers me that she charges $1,000 a head for one of her salons. That means in order to access her you have to be rich and most likely a right winger. This bothers me a lot about her.

It would seem to me that to be in the company of vile people would be awful for a sensitive unless she's one of them, yet she will say that earth is Hell. That it's a learning experience for us to move to higher planes of existence.

[PinkTiger]

23. The money thing bothers me a LOT. But I've also considered this:

As a pyschic who remains "under wraps" for some really good reasons, it has occurred to me that if I were SB, and I had an important message for the world from my psychic abilities, I would have to insulate myself very carefully from people who would drain my energy. I can attest to this because when I was younger I made the mistake of letting people know about my "gift." Overnight there were complete strangers coming to me wanting a reading. I never charged. It was against my scruples. But I had to stop doing the readings because it drained my mind and my soul. Also, I could see I was not helping anyone. Back then I didn't know how to screen it out. As a child I had a rough time with it, because I sensed everything around me and absorbed it like a sponge. I came home every day from school burdened with the emotions of all my classmates and the teacher.
So maybe she charges $1,000 to keep people at bay.
But I still don't like her. My vibes around her are that yes, she is truly a psychic. But she chooses very carefully the information she is willing to share. She has evil and self-serving qualities, and yet I also sense good in her. She also doesn't care for other psychics who might steal her thunder. So I'm also picking up her requests for me to back off.

[Cleita]

24. Wow, I thought the same from F'Angel's post.

I'll bet she senses other psychics and tells them to back off. She's protecting her turf it seems. However, I don't think that many psychics might want to build this industry about them, like she has, and would rather remain unknown.

I know talented people who didn't go into show business or the movies for that very reason. They weren't willing to make the trade off.