Extremely vivid dream, NDE or OOBE ??

[hippiechick]

Ok, I had the weirdest, coolest dream <?> this morning.


I died. Or was euthanized.

Completely this time (unlike in 2 other dreams where it was 'scheduled' but didn't actually happen).

I had something terminal, and the dr came to my house. When I was ‘ready’ I laid down on the couch in my comfy jammies, with Hippiedog Hank on the floor next to me, and the dr. injected me.

I laid there for a little bit, and then started to think that ‘it’s probably going to take awhile, maybe I’ll go for a little walk.’ So I got up and went outside … and decided that ‘since I’m going to die soon, I should probably take a farewell lap to my favorite places’ … and noticed while in traffic that I didn’t have any problem merging in and out … almost like I ‘wasn’t there’.

I realized my legs and arms were really heavy, and then my face started to feel numb, so I stopped the ‘car’ (which I never actually saw) and ‘walked’ back to the house.

When I was going inside, I heard voices – people were there – a sister in law I hadn’t seen in several years, and her kid, and a dear friend/advisor/fellow Du'er. SIL was blathering on and on about me ‘being with God’ and all that, but my friend was just sitting on a chair halfway talking to himself about one of my favorite songs when he noticed that Hank seemed to be paying attention to ‘something invisible’. Hank knew I was there - almost like he could see and hear me - and stayed at my side, following me around - and it was then that I realized that I WAS DEAD and my friend couldn’t see me.

Then I wondered if this must be what its like for everyone – just a ‘change of paradigm’ – like you wake up from a quick nap and you're in another dimension. So I picked up a cd with the song that my friend was talking about and dropped it on the floor in front of him, and went over to the refrigerator and started re-arranging those magnetic kids letters to try to spell out a message, but it took so much effort that half of my words came out all fucked up – and I thought that must be why clairvoyant messages are so jumbled, because it takes so much effort to get across the barrier – it was really exhausting just trying to spell out a simple sentence.

The sister in law was still blathering about God and I went over and poked her in the chest with my finger and “yelled” I’M RIGHT HERE! … but got no reaction, so then I yelled again that "I CAN YELL ALL I WANT TO AND YOU CAN’T HEAR ME LALALALALALALALAAAAA" … and considered the option that perhaps when people die they ‘stay in their favorite place’ which in my case was in my jammies, in the old smelly upstairs of a house I rented in Green Bay, with my dog … and that now I could get some rest and people would stop bothering me.



Thoughts, anyone ?

[hvn_nbr_2]

1. Interesting dream

I've dreamed a couple times that I died, but I don't remember any more about the dreams because they were years ago. When I keep a dream journal, I start remembering lots and lots of dreams, including some strange stuff. Like "waking up" from a dream, recording notes about the dream, and then in the morning finding no notes because the "waking up" was actually part of the dream and I wasn't really awake.

Anyway, about your dream. It doesn't seem to me like a NDE. From my understanding, dreams about death are almost never about real death. More likely about "death" of some aspect of life or thinking--could range from a thought pattern that you're growing beyond, a habit that you're ready to let go, old ways of being, some relationship, almost anything except real physical death. Usually related to some way that you're experiencing or about to experience some new growth of some sort.

My best guess would be that you're on the verge of some new spiritual understanding or maybe realizing something about what's really important in life.

BTW, I saw a license plate the other day HIPECHK, and I thought "I think there's someone on DU named hippiechick. Wonder if that's her?"

[japple]

2. Wow, what an active imagination you have! How many times have you

heard that? I agree with hvn_nbr_2's post above, that it probably isn't about a real death. Maybe it's that you're leaving your old life behind and moving on to a new reality. If you haven't already, maybe you should check out DemExpat's thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=245&topic_id=20128&mesg_id=20128

My 2 cents worth.

[hippiechick]

3. Interesting, but ...

.... this might sound really horrible, but people are pretty much disposable to me. I've got siblings that I don't even know where they live, and vice versa. I don't maintain contact with any of the same friends I had more than 5 years ago, and in fact don't live near - or visit - where I grew up. I don't cultivate deep, long term relationships so when people move out of my life, it's barely a blip on my radar. I'm rather a hermit, actually.

My 'old life' sorta fell completely away when I moved to Indy in 1998, and I'm completely ok with that. So I don't think that's the case.

The only 'new' that I can discern on my horizon is that I'm turning 40 this summer, which I suppose naturally turns one's thoughts to mortality and death.
But to have such vivid dreams about exactly the same event(s) in a span of oh, less than a year ... just strikes me as very unusual.


:hi:

[smirkymonkey]

4. Could it be that in some ways you feel that you are "dead" to

your loved ones or the people in your dreams? I have similar issues with people - I have a few long term friends that I stay in touch with, but for the most part a lot of poeple come and go from my life without incident. I just don't really make much of an effort to cultivate friendships (mostly because I find very few people who I think are worth the effort, and if you are somewhat reclusive, relationships in general tend to be an effort.) Anyway, I have dreams where I am not dead, but I am around loved ones and people I know but I am invisible to them. I wonder if your dream is the same kind of thing?

[hippiechick]

5. I never thought of it that way!

You might be onto something! :hug:

[nuxvomica]

6. The "dying" concept may indicate a major change in your life

Death is a potent symbol for change, especially progression from one stage of life to the next. In that context, your abandonment of the earlier stage is so complete that you have trouble even connecting with it, as when you make failed attempts at communication. Also, "driving" is symbolic of the direction your life is taking. That you had few traffic problems indicates that you'll navigate this new life stage without problems.
But you could also have had an OOBE, too. The vividness of the experience and the amount of travelling you were doing are good indications.

[yellowdawgdem]

7. invisibility

It might've been an oob, and the dream showing that you are very comfortable with oob states.
But there are so many other complex messages within the dream, and some of the symbols, such as a car, a refrig, and a dog, are standard symbols that could be interpreted independently. A refrig often refers to one's diet, for instance, and a car can represent one's physical body. Not sure what the dog represents, but it could represent the part of you who does enjoy companionship. Being euthanized is often connected with pets.
One thing that stood out to me is your desire to be completely comfortable, wearing jammies, being with your dog, etc. And an invisibility theme is also a part of the dream, maybe. The other possibility is that you did some oob travelling as a child, and are reconnecting with those experiences and feelings. The possibilities are numerous, and you could even see it as a possible warning to look after your health.

[hippiechick]

8. My interpretation of the symbols ...

... I really only noticed the fridge because of those magnetic letters that were on the front ... the letters were a means to a message for my friend who was still on this plane ... I wanted him to know that I WAS there and I could see/hear him - thus my dropping the CD with the very song he was talking about - on the floor in front of him. He and I have had conversations about other dimensions and matters Spiritual for several years, so he's the one person I would contact - and vice versa - from the other side.

The dog - HippieDog Hank - anyone who knows me knows that he's the closest companion I've ever had. He's like my son, my best friend, my husband ... all in one. We communicate without words. My real life emotional attachment to him is so strong that sometimes I think I might have a bit of a problem because I can't attach to any human that same way. They say that animals can sense when Spirits are around, especially the Spirits of 'their people', and I think in this situation it was just that Hank knew I was there, and my friend noticed Hank's actions.

In any event, it was such a vivid incident that it still stands out in my mind, as if I just woke up from it this morning.

O8)

[yellowdawgdem]

9. oob

Glad you clarified about the fridge. Yeah, since it was/is so vivid it was most likely an oob.
What I meant by discussing other meanings was that dreams usually present several themes at once, and are = valid. It sounds like the main theme was oob, but there could be additional meanings to look at. It's only you who would know what those are, and from what you are saying, the oob was by far most impt. Maybe even a great accomplishment, since you'd said you'd made 2 other attempts before this one.
Be sure and share any other thoughts on it.