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windy252 Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 01:35 PM
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I've got a few questions for the astrologers
Lately, while I am desperately hoping it's wrong, my sense tells me 2006 will be another stolen election. I believe a Vedic astrologer who was accurate about Kerry's "loss" in '04 predicted the same type of result in '06. Also, I am concerned that the government is starting to target the press. I've been having serious thoughts about looking into leaving the country once I have enough money because this is getting to be almost too much for me. My questions are, do you ever see a democracy being restored in the United States? AndI keep getting the year 2011 in my head. What do you see happening in that year?
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 12:35 PM
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1. I think 2006 and 2008 will be stolen.
2008 is the beginning of real outrage by the people. Pluto will transit the US ascendant then, and the US enters a Mars period of 7 years. Mars is in the 6th house of the Vedic chart, so this will bring protests by labor and the people.

I am not sure about 2011. I'll check it out when I have some time.

PS I use the late Sagittarius rising chart for the US, around 28 Sag. I think this chart is more accurate than the Sibley chart. Among many other indicators for past events, it had the eclipse right on the Midheaven, the office of the presidency, right before the 2004 elections. Very few Western astrologers correctly predicted the election theft because they use the wrong chart, and perhaps also because many things are falling apart and some of the old rules don't apply.
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 01:56 PM
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4. I'm new at this. What time/date do you use for the US?
I guess I'm asking, what birth data?

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windy252 Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 04:06 PM
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6. I'm not an astrologer myself
but I try to rely on my intuition from time to time. That's why I was asking.
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windy252 Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-24-06 04:05 PM
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5. This piqued my interest.
Are there things astrologically falling apart or do you mean something else?
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 12:59 PM
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2. Marc Crispin Miller
the author of "Fooled Again. . How the Right Stole the "04 Election and How They'll Steal the Next One Too If We Don't Stop Them" is really pessimistic about the midterms especially with the strong likelihood of no exit polls. He encouraged people to do their own ad hoc exit polls around the country.

As for "targeting the press" I feel the more appropriate term would be further threatening the press. They've been mostly coopted since the Anthrax scares. They targeted Brokaw and a tabloid. . .'member?

Yeah I do see a better democracy restored here but it'll be a "long hard slog" and if we can generate enough outrage about the 4th stolen election perhaps enough people will wake up. But not if the best of us run away.

2008 will be really heavy though. I'll post the specific data later for the Articles of Confederaton Chart (Nov 15, 1777) which David Solte (of blessed memory) was emphatic was more accurate than the Declaration of Independence Chart.

Interesting theory in terms of our Scorpionic tendencies though.

Many spiritualists feel as though November 11, 2011 will be a hugely significant spiritual breakthrough globally though.
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yellowdawgdem Donating Member (972 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 04:22 PM
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3. My guess
Edited on Tue May-23-06 04:26 PM by yellowdawgdem
is that the people doing the stealing will want to draw as little attention to themselves as possible. Therefore I think they will allow some seats to be won by democrats- but not enough seats for them to gain majority. They probably want to make it seem like it was an okedokie fair election, for sure. But why would it be, when none of the other elections were fair.
As for the question about regaining democracy, I have good feelings about that, but am not sure why, I just see some type of a rebound happening. 2011 is one year before 2012, the Mayan year for completion. But I think we would see a re bound sooner than that. I understand about the scarey stuff, and sympathise with your wanting to move somewhere safe. I've had similar thoughts. But I'm just not sure where that would be, since U.S. has long arms. I'm personally deciding to wait things out, unless or until I start getting some different messages from my guides. Hang in there, though.
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leanin_green Donating Member (823 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 12:38 AM
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7. The mid-terms will be stolen too.
But it will be more in the realm of allowing some Democratic gains in order to resemble a normal election. However, watch who these Democrats are and how much they have played ball recently. The power to be kingmakers is firmly within their grasp. This is widely known in the circles of power. This has to be so, for now. These are the last gasps of a dying order. They won't be able to help themselves. They haven't learned the true axiom about power. "True power is knowing when not to use it." They won't be able to resist and this will be the beginning of their downfall. People are more aware that something is amiss and will be on the lookout. I believe this will be the beginning of an awareness among the people about the depth and scope of corruption in the halls of power. This type of awareness does not sit well within the consciousness. It is like a pebble in your shoe. At some point you have to stop and get it out.
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yellowdawgdem Donating Member (972 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:58 PM
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8. Yes, that's a good point
Watching which democrats win this time would likely be insightful.
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