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disillusioned1 Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 10:59 PM
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Arab Astrologer Predicts Bush Assassination
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Oracle famed for prophesying deaths of Diana, Yassin, Arafat

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Posted: December 28, 2004
10:44 a.m. Eastern

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

A Tunisian astrologer who reportedly predicted the deaths of Princess Diana, Hamas leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin and Yasser Arafat says President Bush will be killed by an assassin's bullet in 2005.

So seriously are Hassan al-Sharibi's predictions taken in the Arab world that a similar prophecy about Palestinian Liberation Organization leader Mahmoud Abbas has resulted in increased security around the candidate to replace Arafat as president of the Palestinian Authority.

Abbas' aides put a "great deal of credence" in the prediction, according to a source quoted by the Jerusalem Post.

However, the paper tempered its report by saying critics label Sharibi "a quack with flair who relies on logic and wishful thinking. After all, predicting Yassin's assassination – he was Israel's 'public enemy No. 1' – and the death of an already ailing Arafat are hardly major feats."

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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42142


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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 11:15 PM
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1. Hi Disillusioned. I've
come to the conclusion that us astrologers and psychics should have and should keep our mouths and fingers quiet about this subject, only
because "forewarned is forearmed" - therefore when we wrote of dimson's demise, his security was increased.

Certain things are fated, but most are not, and by "knowing", one can avoid.

I've written many times before that this wh is using astrologers, in-house astrologers, because they contacted an astrologer I know of to confirm what their in house astrologer said.
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pacifictiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 11:22 PM
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2. Hey Pallas
the fundie base would have a field day with that info!
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disillusioned1 Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 11:24 PM
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3. You beat me to it
I have fundie in laws that cringe at the mention of astrology.
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 11:29 PM
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4. If they are really using astrology
they will change the time of the Inauguration, make it 15 or 20 minutes late.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 11:47 PM
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5. hmmm that'll be something to watch for, thanks Nancy n/t
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 12:01 AM
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7. Nancy as far as I know they only used it in relation to the 0 year prophec
I doubt if they have sufficient belief or acumen to give that much credence to 15 or 20 minutes....of course, otoh, they might be thinking of Reagan's change to the inauguration, but I doubt it.

After all this is the family that doesn't bother "their pretty heads
with such ugly thoughts".
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:06 PM
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17. If nothing else, the protests may delay the inauguration
<aka, the "coronation" of king dubya>

Nancy, I've also wondered if the inauguration might be pushed back if <at least> one Senator stands with the House members who are going to contest the election. IF (big "if") there is a big enough demand for an investigation into the fraud of the election, he may end up with an entirely different inauguration chart.

Not likely, I know. Given the rampant partisanship of the republican ruled courts,legislature and media, I doubt any republicans are going to allow such a protest or investigation to gain any legitimate ground. However, there are so MANY MANY documented cases of laws broken concerning the election and recounts that I still hold out hope that SOMEBODY in Washington is still honest enough to at least LOOK seriously at the evidence of fraud.

:kick::kick:
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devinsgram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 09:43 AM
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10. Not to much can be done about an inside job, though.
I have always said, after the inauguration, Cheyney wouldn't need him anymore.
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propagandafreegal Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:57 AM
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22. Spooky!!!! *** shiver *** nm
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 11:53 PM
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6. Thanks for posting the
link, D. That's what's nice about the DU: it's become a literal clearing house for large quantities of information (for an information junkie like me, it's paradise).

As far as Bush being assassinated in 2005, Al-Sharibi is not alone in predicting this. I've read several (from what seems to me) reputable, seemingly reasonable astrologers predicting the same thing.

Of course, I've read that Bush will keel over from a heart attack, Cheney will keel over from a heart attack (more likely), or that either one will be assassinated, or that Bush I will die from a heart attack (that's like betting on Black in Roulette! you've got a 50/50 odds on that one!!).

Anyway, the nice thing about the DU is that this thread will find its way into the archives. Some time in 2005, if some event happens, we can go back and retrieve it.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 01:11 AM
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8. Do you guys think this is a threat?
Edited on Wed Dec-29-04 01:21 AM by Pallas180
I received this in my private mailbox on DU from one of the participants.

Since as an astrologer, the 20 year Tecumseh's curse is a common subject among astrologers, I find this "warning" very odd.

that made me worry for you

that is awfully close to the line of "encouraging" violence to the prezidense

be careful my friend




Dear Agent Mike.

If I as an astrologer forecast a revolution in the Ukraine, my un-friend, I am not encouraging it, I am reading the stars which may indicate the revolution.

When Nostrodamus forecast the death of the king through a sword piercing his eye, he did not wield the sword, but prognosticated the event.

Kindly keep your warnings that astrologers are engaging in seditious acts to yourself and I wont tell you to go fuck off.

On Edit - P.S. - did you e mail the same warning to the Tunisian Astrologer who made the prediction? or isn't he your friend?
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 01:54 AM
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9. Hey, Unfriend, You better warn Michael Wolfstar too:

NewsScope for December 21, 2004
by Michael WolfStar

"This week's NewsScope looks at the cycle of Presidential death in office"

http://www.stariq.com/Main/Articles/P0005939.HTM

Bush and the Neptune Cycle

Recently President Bush spent some of his political capital to get the landmark intelligence reform bill to his desk, which he signed last Friday. Also last week Bush's economic agenda was laid out before a receptive audience, and included rewriting the tax laws and overhauling Social Security. Commenting on the speed and boldness of his agenda, Bush said "I don't have much time left."

Since 1840 a president has died in office about every 21 years, a cycle which is now coming into play. Traditional astrologers have attributed this cycle to the Jupiter-Saturn cycle, but this doesn't explain why the United States should be the only nation to feel the effects, nor does it accurately give the timing. The Scorpio Rising U.S. horoscope describes both the potential and the timing of these tragic events.
Natally, the U.S. has Uranus and Mars, the planets associated with sudden violence, in the eighth house of death. No other popular U.S. horoscope has this configuration. The Midheaven represents the political party in power and the national leader. Whenever transiting Neptune makes hard aspects to the Midheaven*, a president dies in office.

The only exception was Ronald Reagan, but he had an astrologer who was aware of the danger, and who set his schedule. George W. Bush has Mars in Virgo in close, sharp aspect to the U.S. Uranus. As transiting Neptune approaches its opposition to the U.S. Midheaven, transiting Uranus will be opposing Bush's Mars and squaring the U.S. Uranus. The combination will likely bring Bush plenty of political challenges, but an unusually high risk of assassination.

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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 10:46 AM
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11. One way to check for a time on this would be
Edited on Wed Dec-29-04 11:31 AM by Nancy Waterman
the quarterly Ingress charts, the time the Sun enters the Cardinal signs, which is also the time of the solstices and the equinoxes. I was very struck by the fall equinox chart that had the Sun exactly conjunct Mars and Jupiter. The Sun symbolizes the president if the chart is drawn for DC. When I saw that chart I feared that Bush might win afer all. It is a chart of great success for the president.

Personally, I have great doubts that Bush will be assasinated. His security is way too tight. Cheney could have a heart attack though. He is under some very difficult planets in 2005 and 2006, including Saturn opposite his 6th house Sun.

But I would think we would have to have a very dangerous Ingress chart to show something happening to Bush, with very strong aspects to the Sun. I will take a look.

<on edit> I just ran all the Ingress charts and I don't see anything that suggests assasination. However, there are a few that look quite interesting. In particular, the Winter Solstice of 2006 has a Mars Uranus square that is exact to the minute. This comes at the beginning of the quarter during which Uranus will first cross square the US Ascendant. So something important and likely inciting some kind of violence or aggression may come during that quarter.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 01:12 AM
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32. Unfortunately .as far as security goes, all it would
take is a lunatic or a martyr who doesn't mind dying himself. I hope not though .We don't need him canonized!
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merci_me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 12:46 PM
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12. On Ronald Reagan
I've wondered if the onset of his Alzheimers during his time in office might not be considered a "death". Many would say his brain cells were dying.
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 01:50 PM
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14. I often wondered that as well /nt
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 05:08 PM
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18. Many of us have said the same - Reagan was brain dead while in office-
that may sound like I'm joking, but I'm not.

Of course it was a pretty good act when Iran Contra came up that he
couldn't remember, how many times did he say that? 52 or something?

That was an act. - the Alzheimer's wasn't -
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devinsgram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 08:03 AM
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25. I do not know anything about astrology
but I have said for years that Reagan may not have physically died in office, but his death sentence from the disease was already in affect while he was in office.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 12:11 AM
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33. That's a very interesting point.
I've read many times that the Bush presidency is a carbon copy of the Reagan presidency. Even the same characters that were in Reagan's time are in the current cabinet. Spooky.

And this is never stated as a compliment, by the way. It's more like disgust.

Now it's interesting because I've read in a few articles that Reagan was basically gone, meaning his Alzheimers was so progressed that these hoodlums were free to do whatever they wanted. Reagan didn't know about half of what they were doing, he just stuck by them.

Maybe it's the same thing here: Bush with his I.Q. of just 8 points above plant life, is also "out to lunch" letting these guys have free rein. Scary.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 05:26 PM
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20. By the way, Wolfstar is rarely right about anything - he's not a predictiv
astrologer...and usually gives the prediction after the fact...so this
is out on a limb for him - but notice he doesn't give a "definite".
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propagandafreegal Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:59 AM
Response to Reply #8
23. I love it! You rock! lolol! nm
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yellowdawgdem Donating Member (972 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:34 AM
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35. Pallas- it has a threatening tone
and it sounds creepy. I would have been creeped out by that, for sure. Well, we know that all sorts of people have access to du, including unbalanced people. I think that what you mentioned about not talking abt potential times, scenarios, etc regarding the admin. was right on.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:57 PM
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36. Yup - Yellowdawgdem, - I was highly insulted - but you're right -
some relative newbies or "others" who haven;t been reading me for two three or four years - or some rightwingers or evangelicals might feel the need to pipe up.

But then, as Bev Harris has let us know, we have all kinds following
DU.

Thanks for the affirmation, Yellowdawg.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:16 PM
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37. I apologized privately and now publicly
Edited on Mon Jan-03-05 09:17 PM by AZDemDist6
my apologies since you think I was out of line
To: Pallas180
Date: Dec 29th 2004

that was not my intention whatever

there is a bit of a difference between showing the astrological possibility for assassination and the council to keep it quiet

i will now "butt out" and again my apologies for not minding my own F'ing business



If you chose not to accept my apology, that is certainly your right, but I am not some DU stalker. It was never my intention to be insulting, but insinuating I am a right winger is uncalled for IMHO.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:42 PM
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40. AZDEM - I see that you are a "newbie"-relatively. Let's
leave it at that. Furthermore, if I was approached to do a reading
for the fascistsindc I would refuse. I would not help to destroy this country. Other astrologers obviously are of a different persuasion.

In truth NOBODY should be using the big A word, and I never do in my
astrological writings, referring to Tecumseh's curse, which every astrologer understands and I suppose at least 1/2 the country does.

Unfortunately it has been used in this thread in the header I believe and many many times thereafter.

Which draws the big eye and ear's in the skies attention to this thread - and probably some other crazy off the wall darpapoindexter invention.

The horse is out the barn door, but Let us all agree NOT to use that word anymore.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 04:55 PM
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42. agreed
thanks
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yellowdawgdem Donating Member (972 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:07 AM
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38. so it was harmless afterall- that's good
sounds like it was a warning abt not mentioning too much assassn stuff etc. Cool. It's amazing how easy it is to get jumpy and paranoid these days.
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 01:38 PM
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13. Damn, assassination will make him a "martyr"
I would much rather see him live and have him convicted for crimes against humanity.

Don't you think W would look "fabulous" in an orange jumpsuit and handcuffs?

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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 02:00 PM
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15. I do.
And I agree with your preference. The neocons would beatify him if somebody takes him out.
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 02:59 PM
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16. I continue to think the Tecumseh curse has already played out
The rightful winner of the 2000 election was politically assassinated. He completely disappeared after the election for several months and hasn't run again for anything.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 05:16 PM
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19. I don;t think you can say Tecumseh's curse has played out - yet -
Edited on Wed Dec-29-04 05:29 PM by Pallas180
but one way to research it would be to go back to FDR's first inaugural - look at the aspects - and then look at the second inaugural to see if it showed there - and then there was the third.

My suspicion is that it's the first inaugural that counts- because that's the 0 year the person was elected in, and it carries through no matter how many times he's re-elected - kind of same person thing, same vibration.

And dimson's first inaugural tells the story. Mars square Uranus, Neptune the Assassin as the 7th house enemy...

By the way, Tecumseh's curse doesn't say assassination.

It says dies in office - or does the curse say "will not finish his term in office" ?

Mars/Uranus can be a plane going down. It can be a stroke. It can be a car accident/crash, it could be tripping down stairs and breaking something, it could be going bonkers.(obviously I'm pretty "bonkers" over the unmitigated gaul of a poster thinking they should "warn me".)

As a matter of fact I have a mars/uranus square in my solar return.
You can bet I'm not going to be taking any airplane flights.

FDR wasn't assassinated, nor were many others-one caught pneumonia at his inaugural, etc.

I wonder if dummy is allowed to eat pretzels while alone anymore?
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okasha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 09:58 AM
Response to Reply #13
30. W's second Saturn Return
comes up next year. One way or another, there's going to be a change.

Okasha
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propagandafreegal Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:57 AM
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21. My cousin's Feng Shui teacher said that he did an 'analysis' on W and
that he says that W drops off the scene abruptly. He doesn't know how e.g. if he dies or just becomes reclusive but he says he just disappears from public life.
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vanboggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 03:54 AM
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29. Prison?
Back to the nice orange jumpsuit and cuffs thought, perhaps *'s sudden disappearance will be behind bars. Ah, sweet justice.
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 02:51 AM
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24. If you believe that thoughts are energy...
Nearly the ENTIRE WORLD plus at least one half of the voting United States feels an intense level of contempt and disgust, even hatred for George W. Bush. That's a LOT of people thinking and feeling ill towards one man. Perhaps no other individual in modern history has been despised by so many people.

I simply cannot see how Bush can truly prosper with all of the negative energies being directed towards him at once, each and every day since he and his cronies stole the Presidency from Gore.
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devinsgram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 08:06 AM
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26. That is something I totally agree with.
This will make him a lame duck from the get go. Things will only get worse for him.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 02:29 PM
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27. IIRC, on another thread
Edited on Thu Dec-30-04 02:29 PM by hippiechick
DU'ers were discussing how all the negative energy directed at Shrub feeds his agenda and his negative purpose.

Almost like a black hole, the more energy that's poured into it, the bigger and uglier it gets.


:hippie:
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 02:55 PM
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28. I think both are correct
Bush has a great deal of negative energy focused on him which has to make him feel uncomfortable and agitated. OTOH, what everwe focus on we get in spades. If we resist it, we empower it. Terrorism is a case in point. Looking at the election this way, Kerry's biggest problem (which I wrote to the campaign about) was that he didn't give us a vision to focus on. We needed to picture a world without Bush, run by a progressiove president, and what that could mean. Everyone was so focused on Bush, we got more Bush. We need to start focusing on what we want, not what we don't want. We need to embrace the Bush years as a means to a more enlightened future, perhaps because it shows us the dangers of this kind of exptremism and its negative consequences. Sort of like the pendulum needing to swing far to one side before it can swing back.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 07:02 PM
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31. This is the part ..I'm looking forward to..
because with a Free Press there would be no bush.

From "An Expensive School" http://www.starlightnews.com/

" Historically, Uranus’ hard aspects to the US Uranus have brought revolutionary movements (the pre-Civil War secession of southern states), as well as policies and cultural shifts that have broken with tradition (Reagan’s Star Wars, the Martin Luther King holiday, LBJ’s War on Poverty, and the beginning of the Beatles phenomenon). The first phase of this coming transit will be in late March and early April 2005. It is possible there will be some kind of rebellion among the people of the US, possibly aided by a newly awakened press. The third house Saturn in the Inaugural chart suggests that there could be an increasingly tense relationship between the Bush administration and the press during this term, with the press being critical of and at the same time feeling repressed and stifled by those in power. The Uranus transit to US Uranus, ruler of the 3rd house which covers the media, could awaken a rebellious spirit in the press. The Uranus square to Uranus this coming spring might also signal the “revolutionary” choice of a majority anti-abortion Supreme Court or the battle over this issue. In any event, it is likely to bring something that breaks sharply with recent tradition. Bush, during this transit, will be quite aggressive, angry, and unwilling to bend with Uranus opposite his Mars, and his administration will be agitated and irritable with Uranus square Inaugural Moon. The transit repeats in late July and August 2005 and in January 2006, but its influence will be felt during the entire period from late March 2005 through January 2006."

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 04:01 AM
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34. You know this may feel strange
but I have been attending local demonstrations and taking photos and documenting them

Locally the first one had 25 hardy souls, standing in the rain and cold....

Today we were all the way to 300+.. not quite 350... but this is in less than a month

We have changes happening under the surface... very much so. People KNOW something happened on Nov 2nd, and not quite what the MSM is reporting, this is known by people in their marrows.

I am a historian by training, but Nancy I am honored for I am watching history happen in front of me... hell I am now documenting that history.... what I am seeing is a new Civil Rights Movement, and it will be of that scope, as well as a new progresive movement arise in this country.

Trust me when I say this, we are watching history, those of us who are tuned enough to notice... and out of the ashes that bush is causing a new phoenix will emerge...

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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:28 PM
Response to Reply #24
39. NEOBuckeye - true - and remember how Falwell & the Pentagon
sent orders to all the troops that they had to pray every day for
dimson?

They're well aware of the negative thoughts and feelings about dimson, and were counteracting BY ORDER.

Unbelievable. Fundamentalists and Insanity is running this country.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:48 PM
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41. NOBODY should be using the word


In truth NOBODY should be using the big A word, and I never do in my
astrological writings, referring to Tecumseh's curse, which every astrologer understands and I suppose at least 1/2 the country does.

Unfortunately it has been used in this thread in the header I believe and many many times thereafter.

Which draws the big eye and ears in the skies attention to this thread - and probably some other crazy off the wall darpapoindexterechelon invention.

In fact, I never use dimson's name which also draws the big eye and ear.

The horse is out the barn door, but Let us all agree NOT to use the big A word anymore or dimson's actual name on these astrological threads.

Just my "sensing" which I have followed long before his occupancy of the wh.
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