I Have A Dream
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Fri Jul-28-06 11:44 AM
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Poll question: Do you believe in reincarnation? |
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I was recently speaking with a person who believes many of the same things that I believe, and when we started to talk about reincarnation, he said that he wasn't really sure about it. This surprised me. Given this, I started to wonder what people in this group thought.
What are your thoughts about reincarnation? Do you believe in it?
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Fri Jul-28-06 11:55 AM
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1. I absolutely believe in it, but haven't worked out the mechanics yet. |
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I'm struggling to remain content within the mystery, but that doesn't come easily to me.
My experience of existence is that we are, at our core, pure Spirit. Some parts of that spirit manifest in realities in order to gain understanding, bring understanding, heal or be healed, etc. Some (or, perhaps most) of us exist in several realities at the same time. I also am beginning to sense that time, and our understanding of living these lives serially, is a construct made for our comfort in being in this reality. In truth, I am beginning to see that I am experiencing several lives all the time, and all at once.
It's kind of hard for me to grasp, and I hope to be better able to present the concept at some time.
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Sat Jul-29-06 05:23 AM
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25. I keep trying to work out the mechanics too. |
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If it is true, how does it work exactly?
And yes we are limited with our human brains and life here on the earth plane. We cannot grasp it all. Yes, linear time is just an earth construct.
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Fri Jul-28-06 11:56 AM
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I didn't for a long time, but now I do. As a matter of fact, I'm having a LBL regression next week. I'm a little nervous to be honest. I'll fill everyone in afterwards.
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I Have A Dream
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Fri Jul-28-06 11:57 AM
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3. Oh, please do fill us in! I want to do this also. |
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Is there anything in particular that changed your mind or did it just evolve into a belief?
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Fri Jul-28-06 12:59 PM
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5. I guess it was a gradual acceptance. |
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I was raised Catholic but ventured off looking at other religions including an evangelical Presbyterian church. Then after my father died (6.5 years ago) I started reading books to help deal with grief. That eventually led to others like the Matthew books and the Journey of Souls, etc. and the best way I can describe it is some of the things I read (don't ask specifics because I can't remember right now what stood out) struck a fleeting memory sort of feeling. I guess its been a sense of getting in touch with my intuition. Does that make sense? It's had to describe and I'm pretty much a newbie to a new age type of spirituality.
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cassiepriam
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Sat Jul-29-06 05:20 AM
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24. I would love to hear about it too. |
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My LBL regression was really informative. Are you seeing someone trained by Newton by any chance?
I was a bit anxious too before I went, but it turned out just fine.
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Fri Jul-28-06 12:37 PM
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4. I voted probably because I can't be 100% sure..... |
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but it is the strongest belief I have in life after physical death.
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Fri Jul-28-06 01:13 PM
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6. I wouldn't have the chance to work out the past with my wife w/o it. |
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Well, that's not completely true. You don't need to understand history in order to change behavior but it helps. So far, so good.
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Fri Jul-28-06 01:28 PM
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7. I like to believe that our spirit is immortal and that we try |
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out various modes of existence on our journey. Once we leave this life, we may go on to another form of exitence maybe even in another dimension. I'm not so sure about repeating lives as human beings on earth. I personally wouldn't really want to come back into a human body on earth to do it all over again.
The think that always stopped me was why don't we remember who we were in the past?
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Fri Jul-28-06 01:53 PM
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8. Well, I had the most interesting conversations with |
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two of my sons about that, both initiated by them. One asked: "What happened to the old lady I used to be?" I was very careflu to not lead the conversation, just asked him what he meant. He informed me that he used to be an old lady, who had lots of kids. "Then I came here." The other son looked at me an just asked "So, I take it, I'm not that old man with a lot of white hair, that I was - this is my new life?"
They were both under the age of five, so I tread very carefully with them. I told them that IF that was who they were before, it could only mean that the person they had been had died, and that their soul had returned to a new body, and that they were now beginning a new life. I simply accepted what they said, and took it from there. I had to teach them about death at that moment, and yet try to teach them that they needed to focus on this current life. They still remember that conversation but don't want to talk about it - they're focusing on the here and now, albeit from a much larger perspective than some men their age. They both say I handled it well, and thank me for the respect I showed for their feelings.
They remembered.
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Fri Jul-28-06 02:08 PM
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Thanks for the insight! I'm always wondering if, when MorningGlow Jr. is older, he'll mention his past life (lives). He's a very gregarious 2 1/2 right now, so it might not bee too far in the future.
Similar story--years ago my brother and his family came back East (they live in California) for a visit. My niece was about 7 or 8. She stated quite matter-of-factly that she liked our city because she lived here before, in the 1800s. My mother and my very Catholic aunt thought she had a vivid imagination and it was "cute". Needless to say, I thought otherwise! My niece is 17 now--not sure if she remembers that.
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Fri Jul-28-06 02:20 PM
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10. With absolute certainty... |
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I am a past-life regressionist...ask me anything!!!!
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Fri Jul-28-06 04:00 PM
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11. What does that mean, you do past life regressions on others, or |
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you have experienced it? I have had very vivid dreams of another lifetime, a few times, in one I knew my name, in another my expertise as a fisherman was absolutely clear, weirdest dreams I have ever had in my life. They are what convinced me more than anything, and the only other person I've ever told about them is DH. I would love to have a past life regression done, and kind of afraid at the same time. Tell us what you know! :)
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Fri Jul-28-06 04:53 PM
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12. I do past life regressions for others. |
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It is a very healing experience, and healing can happen very quickly. If you are interested in reading about it, I highly reccommend the books of Dr. Brian Weiss, and Dick Sutphen. I was trained as a past-life regressionist by Dick Sutphen. His first book, You Were Born Again To Be Together is a great book, dealing primarily with relationship karma, which is his focus.
Believe me, there is nothing to be afraid of. It is empowering, healing, and can explain so much about who you are. If you have a chance, go for it. But it is great that you have these dreams...that is another way to learn about past lives. I just always knew I had lived before, from the time I was very small. (Of course, I kept this information to myself, or the belief would no doubt have been pounded out of me.) To me, it is like a great adventure to visit past lives. I have recently had a lot of upheaval and transition, (very painful and difficult, but at the same time I know it had to happen and is for the best) and I have an appointment with Dick in October to do some work on understanding what is going on, and where my path might be heading. I only wish the appointment was tomorrow!
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mother earth
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Fri Jul-28-06 05:37 PM
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13. Please let us know how it goes, can't wait to hear. I've thought |
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about doing it, but how does one choose the regressionist? It's hard to know if someone is reputable, especially since this field is not considered mainstream. I haven't had those dreams for a very long time, but they were quite vivid and emotional when they happened. It's really what made me feel there was more to it than just being a dream.
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Fri Jul-28-06 06:54 PM
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15. I agree it can be hard to find someone. |
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But it is more mainstream these days than it was when I first became interested. I would advise that if you find someone who does it, ask them what their regression process is like. I always have my clients envision a white, protective light surrounding them, for starters. And I only try to guide by asking the right questions, and I help the person process the information after the regression, but I never tell anyone what to do, try to help them make decisions, or tell them it will take many sessions to work through something. (It might, but that is the person's choice, not something for me to decide.) And remember, no one can take advantage of you just because you are hypnotized...you won't do anything you are unwilling to do, anything contrary to your value system just because you are hypnotized.
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Fri Jul-28-06 05:43 PM
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I also would like to know how to select a person to do a PLR. I live in Seattle so feel free to recommend anyone you may know in this area. Please let us know how your PLR session goes.
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Fri Jul-28-06 06:57 PM
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16. I don't know anyone in Seattle, |
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However, I will try to find someone for you. And I will be more than happy to share what I find out when I have my session in October. In fact, I will probably be bursting to share! I will get back to you about a person in Seattle...it may take a few days.
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Fri Jul-28-06 08:48 PM
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I don't really have any personal experiences to share; but it makes so much sense i can only believe it. I take it as fact.
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I Have A Dream
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Fri Jul-28-06 09:00 PM
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18. It wasn't until I read "The Reincarnation of Peter Proud" in some... |
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magazine when I was a teenager that I ever even heard of such a thing as reincarnation. It blew my mind! It basically opened up an entirely new way of viewing reality. I didn't make a decision as to whether I believed in it right away, but it really made me think. In time, I discovered that I viewed reincarnation as a given, and I've believed in it completely from that point on.
I have to say that reading that piece of fiction was a very important thing in my life because, if I could be open to the reality (to me) of reincarnation, then I could be open to exploring other things that are not part of mainstream American culture. I guess that I had a paradigm shift at that point.
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Fri Jul-28-06 09:05 PM
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19. My problem with it is this: why are we aware of only our current life? |
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If reincarnation is real, then there must be infinite past and future lifes. What is it about this current life that makes it the one we are aware of instead of any of the others? One theory I have is that we live in multiple similar dimensions/lifes at the same time and we are constantly moving back and forth betweem them so that we are only aware of one life.
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Fri Jul-28-06 09:23 PM
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20. I am fully aligned with the belief that given the enormity of the |
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human spirit it could not be aligned to one puny lifetime in the grander scheme of things. I used to facillitate past life regressions but no longer do so. It's really helpful work though.
Have been aware of multiple past lives since I was a kid but never felt as though all others should be so. It's a lot to handle really. But we're never given more than we can handle.
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Fri Jul-28-06 09:38 PM
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21. It seems that if some are aware of past lives, then some should be aware |
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of future lives also but I have never heard of that.
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Fri Jul-28-06 10:01 PM
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22. I've had some fleeting images |
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and though they are completely illogical, they are totally encouraging.
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Sun Jul-30-06 04:24 AM
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28. Yes some regressionists do that kind of work as well. |
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I think it is called progressions. Brian Weiss who wrote the famous Many Lives, Many Masters has been doing future lives. It is fascinating. He talks about it one of his later books.
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Sat Jul-29-06 06:53 PM
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26. Were your past and future lifes on Planet Earth or somewhere else? |
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Sat Jul-29-06 12:12 AM
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Great thread. I couldn't agree more that learning about past lifetimes is both healing and gives us great insight towards our individual purposes in life.
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Sun Jul-30-06 01:30 AM
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27. My Enlightened Irish Grandmother told me many reincarnation stories e.g. |
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of children who had mentioned that they had lived as someone else in the family, and would point to the ancestor's photo in the family album, and describe accurately how and where they died and could even locate the tombstone when in the past area's cemetary.
Once, in a guided meditation during a workshop, the facilitator asked each of us lying on the floor w/ eyes closed to see ourself walking along a beach, and up ahead to picture a fog bank, and when we walk through & out of the fog bank we will walk into 1 of our past lives.
It worked extremely well, and I walked into the fog bank as a black panther (which surprised me) and out as a man in top hat in London in 17-18 C.
I love cats( all sizes), and a psychic once spontaneously said that it would be very revealing to me if I rented a black panther suit from a costume store and moved around my home and grounds in it sometime. I had not told her of the beach scene. I think one life at least was as a panther:-))
Past life work can do wonders in explaining fears and idyosyncrasies of this life for sure....Also, there are books on future lives as revealed in hypnosis sessions....Only 3D has time and space and amnesia, so we are not distracted by parallel lives in other dimensions, it seems. I seem to recall that part about 3D & time and space from a book on Einstein....
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Mon Jul-31-06 12:25 AM
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When I first had my first few OBE's, it became so clear that we are not just our physical bodies and that we go through many physical lives during our development.
Yes I believe in reincarnation :)
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Mon Jul-31-06 08:43 AM
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I had lived in Japan, although my ancestors are Scottish and Nordic, and I have no connection with Asia. At a young age I once had a very vivid dream about being in Japan. So anyway later I happened to have a psychic reading by someone who knew nothing about me (she was briefly visiting the east from California). The very first thing she said was, "You lived in Japan. You were a horse rider, like a samurai or scout of some sort." A lone warrior type was the gist. So that was interesting.
But beyond that I don't believe in death anyway. So call it reincarnation, or transmigration, or morphing or whatever term you like. I believe we are energy, we are constantly evolving and there are many worlds. I almost can't understand anyone who would reject this possibility...at the very least a person would keep an open mind about it. For me it's what I have always believed, so is second nature. I fully expect to live on in another form, maybe not a person, maybe in spirit form or in the body of another creature. As far as being rewarded or punished in another lifetime, I don't think it's as harsh and black & white as that. I think it's more like an evolution, an increase in understanding, whatever the circumstances of this life have been. I believe that even the p/Resident and his band of thieves will have the opportunity to evolve, though I hope they get to spend a LOT of time in the Bardo plains first. Some people have to go to the remedial class. They didn't get the point about what life is about. Wouldn't be the first "F" Chimpy ever got, I'm sure. This life is about getting beyond fear, beyond operating only out of "lack," and beyond competing with and exploiting others. There are much higher plateaus of existence. Some people glimpse the possibilities in this lifetime.
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Mon Jul-31-06 11:30 PM
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31. marions ghost...what a truly beautiful post...thank you.... |
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My 2 extra cents is a quote from Abraham-Hicks: "If you connect with your inner Being, then you fulfill your purpose for being. If you do not connect with your inner Being, then you just spin circles. You die feeling unfulfilled and that the life experience was for naught; there was no value from it, no growth--not any joy either. The two go hand in hand. So the happier you are, the more of that value you are fulfilling".
Being is felt in the energy/tingling of life that we feel when we bring our attention to any part of our body...this IS The Divine Presence...the Universe...the Quantum Field that unites all beings...all things as 1...Pure Being...so close...yet sometimes un-noticed....(I am trying to practice noticing).
Am now (thanks to this thread) writing the 3 acts of my Next life...1st of all I want to look like Charlize Theron...and be born to an Enlightened, wealthy, full- of -Fun family of Yogis:-)) -- in a beautiful, safe, peaceful country of like-minded souls....What else???
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Tue Aug-01-06 11:54 PM
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we are on the same wave :)
All best in this and your next lifetime. Keep that vision of the beautiful safe peaceful country. I know that it does exist. This is not all there is. Not by any means.
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