The Secret...a question. I've been thinking, up until now, that

[mother earth]

one could not be politically active and still in line with the Secret. I've been giving this much thought, as it is difficult to not become upset when you think about the state of affairs we are in, but then I'm also thinking that sticking your head in the sand isn't good either. Keeping the focus positive and not allowing yourself to give the evil side any energy is difficult, but the energy we have CAN effect positive change. This is probably the biggest point I have wondered about and wonder what all of your thoughts are on it.

I was reading Deliberate Intent and trying to find an answer that is more than not trying to change someone and just thinking positively, maybe you all have some pointers. I have been, up until viewing the Secret, non-stop and focusing my energy on gaining back our country, then thought that I would be better off not even thinking about it, not watching the news, not focusing attention on any of it. Now I'm wondering, is this the right approach?

How do other followers of the Secret feel about this dilemna? I remember Mother Teresa on that film saying yes to a peace rally, but never to an antiwar march. It's your intent, right? To be positive in all things...

[I Have A Dream]

1. I seem to recall that it said the same thing as what you said about...

Mother Teresa. Don't go for "anti" anything. Instead, go for "pro". I think that it said that we feed what we want to go away when we dwell on the fact that we don't want it. Instead, according to this philosphy, we should focus on what we do want. I guess that this would mean that we should focus on candidates that we would like to be in office rather than why we don't want certain candidates in office. (For example, in Pennsylvania, I shouldn't be focusing on Santorum but instead I should be giving my resources and attention to Casey, who is still not my ideal candidate but who really does care about people.)

Personally, I think that there's much truth to this, and I had been trying to do this prior to watching "The Secret".

[rumpel]

6. the Secret

is soo difficult for me, too. (but I only saw the trailer)

It is not that I brood over negatives - being bombarded day in and day out with images and comments of what is happening around us - maybe simply acknowledging the current state - but "letting go" could be an important factor -

where was it, where it said to take the lessons (positive) but then letting the experiences go, and that will release you from it. (something like that) perhaps Kryon? I thought that made sense.

It is easier to envision the goal state of a peaceful world or a more balanced political climate here than in personal life - I have been taking it one day at a time now for quite a long time, it is quite an undertaking to envision the goal state of my own wishes -

[lildreamer316]

2. Good question. To start;

I am concentrating (like the movie said) and/or focusing my attention on the candidate(s) I want to win; and giving my attention to the positive things they are doing; not lamenting where they lack.

I want to give this question some more thought. I also realized that the movie told me that I did not need to spend as much time on DU as I have been before--when I do; I am going to try to view and post positively. It can be hard sometimes here; though-which is why I've been hanging out here and in the Lounge mostly.

I think we need to be aware of what the issues are; but realize that many of them are not within our individual power to change (for other people). If we create good and positive things in our life; the ripples will spread.

I'll get back to you on this..

[Me.]

3. My Take

As per the movie is to be informed but not inundated and once you know what you want, or which position feels right to you emotionally, to focus on that. In other words focus on and work for candidates and causes that line up with your philosophy. I believed they also mentioned that knowing what you want as opposed to what you don't provides a good comparison. You can help attract the outcomes you want for our country and the world by thinking about what you want. Hence, you wouldn't be anti-Lieberman but pro-Lamont or vice-versa if that was your persuasion.


*shadow government*

[mother earth]

4. Thanks, Me & all. I'll be pro-, cuz I have to be active....it's in my

cells. :)

[Why Syzygy]

5. I just

burn candles, focus and ask for Light to come into the world. Even if there is "Light" (wisdom, peace, sustainability), you can't have too much.

[Why Syzygy]

7. This reminded me

of how we used to be taught affirmations. We were instructed not to use "not" or negatives. (huh?)
It isn't the greatest idea to focus negative and work it up. I was watching part of the film again today (I watched it non-stop like you for several days) and it spoke specifically of this. The Rev. on there said that affirmative thoughts are 100% more powerful than negative thoughts. And the lady (can't think of her name) said that there is a buffer of time, thoughts don't manifest immediately (though I've found sometimes they do). Don't struggle against negative thoughts. Just look at them and let them move on. Can't claim perfection in my life. But I did catch myself getting worked up about a situation the other day and caught myself and started thinking, my mental health comes first! This guy is not going to get to me. There was a shift in perception.

Sometimes I hate the posts at DU because we are so discouraged. Angry. All the negativity. You can't fight negative with negative. A recreational therapist taught me something about games. It applies to real life. You will advance much more sucessfully if you concentrate on building your set rather than trying to block your opponent's set. Most useful.

O8)

[mother earth]

8. Thank you, votesomemore. I am realizing that everything is

through being positive and proactive. Negativity breeds negative results. No good has ever come from doom and gloom, and intentions are everything. I thank you all for the kindness you all hold in yourselves, and have shown me in answering my question.

It's all about being proactive and seeing good beyond a problem, it's about your perspective and "growing" the positive. It's like you said, wanting the greater good for all. I'm no longer troubled by the good fight, it's the "light" we seek never giving power to the darkness, it simply does not exist when our focus is on the light.

Let's put all of our energy together and make the light powerful, just like the sun!

I can't thank all of you enough. I have grown so much from being part of this board. I am truly grateful.

[Why Syzygy]

9. me: something I'm learning ...

The Secret brought me to several new teachers. I haven't even checked out all of them yet.

These messages are everywhere, it is just a matter of tuning into them. Being open, as TS tells us.
The film is but a launching pad.

Esther Hicks is in TS. http://abrahamhicks.meetup.com/ < there are also meetups for general 'law of attraction'.

I was drawn recently to Vernon Woolf's holodynamics writing and teaching. http://www.holodynamics.com
I keep trying to get a conversation in this forum going, but no one else seems to be familiar with it. It is more of the law of attraction with a scientific flare, which makes it understandable to me. I always had trouble believing that other beings would speak in this dimension and through physical beings. But with the scientific basis and world of quantum physics, it is indeed not only possible, but very probable. In fact, guaranteed.

The 'Law of Attraction' is so much more.

The first headline I saw signing onto DU tonight was Israel bombing in retribution for Hezbolah attacks. This is exactly the kind of thing we don't want to bring into being. But LOA teaches that EVERYTHING in our experience has been attracted by us. We balk. No way. Abraham/Hicks goes on to explain that we did not do this consciously. We didn't understand. Holodynamics teaches that every problem contains its solution. I'm seeing a new light. I'm seeing that all the stuff I thought was bullshit victim stuff has been to tell me, "not that". We all come into being with a certain amount of baggage and then set about to gather more. Why? Is baggage a bad thing? Try flying to San Francisco and having the airlines lose your baggage. Then think about it. As much as I may think it stinks, I'll keep my baggage, thank you. I've been asking for my baggage all my life! Give me. No, that's not my stuff. That was/is my stuff.

The thing is, out of that stuff comes my blessing. It does look easy now (subject to change). Those experiences that were nightmares on earth, given the chance, potentialize (manifest) into my Full Potential Self (a holodynamic term).

The reason so many are miserable is because they know on some dimension that they are manifest to create and that instinct is thwarted.

Vernon Woolf has much to say about world conditions and how we must start at the micro level (individuals) before we can change the world. Meanwhile we can look at all the problems and tortures as the potential for a greater good.

ps..I've been what some call, New Age, since 1980. Only 26 years later and it just might become mainstream. TS gives us a doorway to enter into all prior and future knowledge.

other ps..I started this reply to mention that I listened to the Abraham-Hicks intro tracks today.
http://abraham-hicks.com/
There is another Law, and that is of Allowing. Everyone on the planet is creating, conscious or not. That would seem like chaos. And indeed it is. But somehow we still function as a somewhat coherent entity, society. And maintain sub-cultures. It is the holodynamic picture of micro to macro. This is what you get when there are so many competing co-creators. There are embedded cultural and family programs. The governments want in on it too. They want to create the citizens they desire for their own beneifts. Many are greedy and see others as pawns in their endeavor to control reality. But even these cannot overrule the Laws. If it is chaos and destruction they seek, they will not be disappointed. But let's step out of the way (no practical solutions at my brain-tips). The more violent they become, the more peaceful we become. The more we are able to work out our resistance to legitimate authority, the better able to recognize legitimate authority. Ourself is at the top of the list.
... This is just a thread I picked up today and thought applied to this thread.
http://www.abraham-hicks.com/bio.html

[rumpel]

10. Interesting.

I will check them out. Thanks

:)

[mother earth]

12. Thanks, votesomemore, I'l have to check these out. I have been

reading The Power of Deliberate Intentions by Hicks. I have to say I was a little disappointed though, it sort of just gives examples and pretty much says the same thing to everyone, basically to look on the bright side of things using your inner guidance system (it give you a list of emotions & where they are on the scale). I do agree with the premise, & found it helpful, just wouldn't have bought the book if I knew that's all it was, might have chosen their first book, but was worried it would be the same info contained in "The Secret". I was very impressed with Esther Hicks on that show.

It all reminds me of Wayne Dyer who was my first exposure to this line of thought, years & years ago. It really was the DVD, The Secret, and seeing the examples they used & the different speakers, that DVD is powerful. I'm NOT sorry I purchased it & will view it time and time again.

Thanks so much for your help, I'm sure others here are getting a lot out of all of this information as well. It's empowering.:kick:

[emcguffie]

11. At a recent workshop I attended --

-- Sandra Ingerman talked about starting at the end. Just see yourself the way you want to be, or the world the way you want it. whatever it is you are working on, start at the end.

And she also said that when we are angry, we actually do something bad to other people, when we -- throw that angry energy at them. She said it's okay to be angry, but not to throw the energy at the other person, which we do without realizing it.

[Why Syzygy]

13. More

MotherEarth, I read that you feel satisfied now. Glad to hear that. But I ran across this book online > http://www.scienceofgettingrich.net/sogr.pdf < All I've read so far is the chapter on Gratitude. He writes that we should be grateful for even corrupt politicians because they are providing an opportunity to create our world. Pretty interesting viewpoint.

[mother earth]

14. LOL! Thank you, votesomemore...I'm a work in progress though,

I'm not yet at the point of thanking them. Your link did not work for me, but it could be my PC.

On some of the other links though, I do gather that forgiving is a huge release mostly for the forgiver, so I'm with you to a certain extent. Let's put it this way, my inner guidance system (from abraham-hicks) is on the higher scale on this one. I need more practice at staying on track before I get too carried away. I'm trying it on a few in-laws who are really "out-laws" ;), so we'll see how that fares.