Tell me your dreams

[Behind the Aegis]

I want to try a little experiment. I want to try to interpret a few dreams. Since this is not a fast moving room and the people here are pretty open-minded, I thought I would give it a whirl. I am not promising anything spectacular, but I feel this is an area where I am become good. So, I thought I would ask some fellow DUer's for help.

Here is a little background on me: I have always been interested in mythology, that led to the occult, then to witchcraft. I have an interest in Tarot. Sometimes, I am very good with the cards, other times I just plain suck! I am interested in a multitude of other forms of divination, but never really became good with any (except the cards). I enjoy astrology, but like Barbie (the doll) says..."Math is hard!"

So, if you are interested, give me a dream. Be as specific as possible. If, for some reason, I feel the dream analysis is too personal, I will answer you in a PM. As I said, I am not saying this is going to be perfect, but if you are willing to take a chance, I will respond.

So...any takers?

[radfringe]

1. I'll bite... :)

Dream: there was a cat in the house -- she was giving birth to 5 kittens, then ran upstairs and had another 5 kittens.. The 10 kittens varied in markings from tigers, tuxedos and calicos.

It was apparant that she wouldn't be able to feed them all, so I left the house to go to the store and buy formula/bottles

I went out through the back door and heard some noises -- there was a embankment and a strip of trees seperating the property from a field -- I went there and saw two dogs with a litter of pups - pups were a few weeks old. I had never seen the dogs around before, and from the looks of them they had been wandering for awhile. They were black-tan and white -- possibly Swiss Mountain dogs but on the small side. The two dogs had tags but I had some trouble getting the info off of the tags -- I did manage to read one of the tags -- it was elegantly engraved with the initials AGH...

There were also white bunnies (adults and babies) hopping around and romping with the dogs...

The house isn't one I have lived in nor ever visited although it seemed familar -- same with the terrain of the property.

[Behind the Aegis]

4. Here goes...

First, I am making a few assumptions, which will be in italics. If they are incorrect, please let me know, as that may change the analysis. Second, thanks for being the first one to "bite." I hope I don't disappoint. On with the dream....

I am assuming you are an animal lover because of the number and variety of animals in your dream. Because the cat is giving birth and you saw the kittens, I feel this is telling you a strong feminine influence is at work. The fact that you saw a total of 10 may indicate great strength. This 'great strength' is coming from another female/feminine source and this makes you feel as if this 'strength' is too much for this person(?) and you feel a great desire to nurture her.

The dogs in the field show great promise. Because you approach the dogs with no fear, it may indicate approaching a new venture, but you have your own strengths/talents you are ignoring that need to be revitalized. The puppies show a new idea is about to develop and the number may give you an idea how many months/weeks it will take to develop fully. Seeing the white bunnies indicate happiness and positive outcomes. The tags may be a coded message to you...look for those initials or that combination in words around you on a daily basis.

The house and property, mostly likely, represent your "self" and your "sphere of influence." Both of these things are reflections that this is a highly personal dream and it is something very close to you.

Now, here is the "wrap up." It appears two things are happening in your life of great importance. One seems to be a new relationship or perhaps an intensified relationship. You are taking an active role in making sure this person is well-cared for and comfortable. It also appears you are making a decision about a job or, perhaps, starting your own business. If this is the case, it appears things are lining up, but you just need to have a little more faith in your own abilities and use some skills you may have put on the "back burner." All in all, it seems things are going very well for you.

So, what do you think?

[radfringe]

8. animal lover? Me?? only have 4 cats and two dogs

and the occassional foster dog... and taking care of a feral cat colony at work... does that qualify as an animal lover? lol

I think you hit it real close -- I have been playing with an idea in my head for a new "venture" -- I've been doing watercolor paintings after a long hiatus, been trying to get that moving but not sure where to go with it (some of my paintings can be seen here --> http://radfringe.tripod.com/bluestonestudio/ )

but I've been playing with the idea of starting up with my woodcut prints again.... need to get the tools and supplies, found some places with reasonable prices and I'm just trying to figure some details out before I go and buy

I'm also actively seeking a new job, hate the one I have because I feel like I'm just spinning my wheels and am getting no satisfaction from it -- but it will probably be awhile before something comes along considering the economy and job market in my area

my partner has a "wonderful" head cold -- been taking care of her since Friday... She is not a cheerful and cooperative patient when she is sick...

I kind of figured the AGH initials have some significance -- not sure what they are -- although the woman who runs the greyhound rescue is named Ann -- so maybe Ann Grey Hound? maybe, but doesn't feel like the right fit to the initals -- although she wants me to help her set up a website... who knows...

As for the number of puppies indicating "time" -- don't know how many puppies there were, several running around and they wouldn't stand in one place long enough to count... lol

I'll keep you informed as things unfold

[Behind the Aegis]

9. I figured!! You animal lover, you!

I was 'assuming' you were because I knew you were female, had a rainbow flag avatar, ergo..cat lover! You know how us gay folk love our cats! I have one too (and several other pets).

This new venture has wonderful potential. From your dream, it seems that this will, not only be profitable, but very rewarding! I also think your partner may supply extra support very soon.

I agree with you about the initials. It doesn't "fit." I felt that when I started reading what you wrote, then saw you drew the same conclusion. It is important...look for it. Perhaps it is where you will find your tools, since it was on the dog's (the venture) tags.

Since you can't narrow the number of puppies down, I am guessing it will be in the near future, bit not too soon. If the field had a summertime feel, perhaps that is the time this will materialize.

Let me know how it goes! :)

BTW...thanks for helping out animals that rely on your kindness!

[murray hill farm]

23. dream!!

IN dreams, a house always is you..and dimensions of you..although the house was not familiar to you..it still is a representation of you...the animals were there in such numbers that u could not keep track of them..and more and more appearing..u felt that they could not survive without your help..so you went to the store to get food and bottles to feed them..and when u came back there were even more of them...and since u do make it a big part of your life to care for animals..this seems to be from a feeling that this caring helps so many, but that u can never do enough to save them all..and of your frustration with this knowing..u keep on...but u cannot keep up with it. Dreams are really gifts from the unconscious mind..and appear to us when we are ready to act on that part of oursleves..u can understand a lot of these messages or gifts, by paying attention to not just the symbols in the dream, but about how you felt about what was happening in the dream.

[LWolf]

2. Ok.

Here is a recent dream, <snipped> from the "first dream of the year" thread below.



I dreamed about animals loose in my space. I started out in a derelict, abandoned building/house that I was cleaning up; I wasn't sure if it was for work or home. It eventually "became" the house I currently live in, with the focus on my tiny little bedroom. Some were my animals, familiar and comforting. Some were strange animals, and some stranger still; they kept "shifting." A beautiful bird with a killer grip on my finger that changed into a fat, bushy squirrel: I "caught" the bird inside. It's feathers were silky soft, like fur. I took it outside and put it on my finger, to let it get oriented before flying away. It turned into a squirrel and scampered off to hide in a rusted old car frame sitting on the lawn. It wasn't my yard. A skinny calico cat with no tail, hobbling along on 3 legs, appeared 2 different times, the 2nd time hiding behind/under my bed. And a bizarre rodent thing that I first thought was a mouse or rat, and, on closer look, looked like some sort of miniature badger or hedgehog, round on the bottom end, with a pointy nose. It followed the cat under the bed. And all of these people; some from work, some just friends, kept showing up like they had scheduled some time with me while I was trying to get all these animals out of my bedroom.

[Behind the Aegis]

5. Are you Noah by any chance?

Just a little light (and bad) humor. If I need to make an assumption, it will be in italics. If the assumption is incorrect, let me know, as it may change the meaning of the analysis.

The cleaning you are doing shows you are making improvements in your life. Things are going well, maybe a few bumps here and there. There is one thing that is problematic. You tend to be a very private person. You do not take well to others "nosing" into your life without being invited. However, there is a part of you that wants to 'let up' a little on the privacy (that is the squirrel). The fact that the 'bird' (which represents happiness and contentment) changes to the 'squirrel' (which is showing a "letting go") might indicate you need to let go of your security blanket (your intense privacy) and take a few risks. The cat shows your fears of betrayal and a sense of foreboding. Finding a 'rat-like' thing, is also another "warning" that there may be rats (unlikable people) which you will encounter. The people showing up is indicating that you are letting people into your "world," while, at the same time, trying to "herd up and control" your fears about this new path.

Drum roll....What I feel this dream is saying, to me, that you are a private person, but a new job, friendship, or just self awareness, is
making you take a look at that shroud of privacy and a desire to be more open. You have quite a few lingering doubts, but it seems you are building up personal strength to "come out," as it were. You have quite a reserve of strength to rely on (and a few close friends) that will help you adjust to this new life you are about to open up to.

Does that help?

[LWolf]

15. Actually, that is quite good, on many levels.

The cleaning and the moving forward? This has been in motion for about 6 months, headed for a big change this summer.

A very private person? Almost an understatement, lol.

Very impressive!

:hi:

[Sweet Freedom]

3. My dream

I dreamed I moved into a new home and was terribly unhappy about it. In the middle of the night, I awoke, got out of bed and headed to the bathroom (the wall opposite the foot of my bed). I chose the wrong door because it looked like the door to my old bathroom. I grumbled about hating my new house and went into the bathroom (to the right of the head of my bed). The bathroom was totally different than the bedroom. The bedroom was modern -- apartment-like with angled ceilings and moldings (brown and white). The bathroom was old -- cold linoleum floor, pedestal sink, no bathtub, little mirrored medicine cabinet, pull-cord for the light (an uncovered light bulb on the ceiling.)

As I walked in the room, I was immediately terrified. Then an enormous man grabbed me. He was HUGE -- nothing but muscle. He wrapped his arms around mine and crushed my mouth with my forearms while his elbows crushed my hips. He was so tall, my feet weren't touching the ground. I couldn't scream because of my arms, and I was cutting the sides of my wrists with my own teeth. I was sure he would crush me to death.

He leaned backwards with me in his grasp and I looked to my right into another mirror and saw myself floating above ground with my body contorted. But he wasn't in the mirror. I could feel him, but I couldn't see him. It was then that I realized he was a ghost. I woke up and couldn't go back to sleep.

[Behind the Aegis]

6. This will be tough one!

This one is going to be somewhat complicated. I may make some assumptions, which will be in italics. If they are incorrect, please let me know, as it may change the meaning. I also have a very strong feeling that this may end up having to go to PM. I will make the analysis, then you decide if I am close to something, then perhaps we can explore more.

Here is what I am seeing in relation to your dream. You are unhappy with yourself right now, almost angry at yourself. Your private self seems to be fairly complicated, but comfortable. However, you are having issues with expressing your emotions. You are confronted with old, unexpressed emotions/feelings. You are frightened by your own feelings, they are overwhelming. The "man" is a past experience which went horribly wrong and ended up 'twisting' you in all kinds of ways. OR..the "man" is you! Your fastidious manner of suppressing emotions backfired, and you attacked yourself in a brutal manner. When you looked in the mirror, you saw nothing but yourself. Perhaps, you are beating yourself up. Another thing I feel is that a "ghost" from the past has reemerged and you still fear it.

My final words here are that you are in some type of scary situation, perhaps one from the past cropping up again. You have a hidden reserve of strength, but your fears and anger/disgust are quelling it.

I usually like to be right about things, but I am hoping I have misread this dream, because I am sensing a very tense situation.

What says you?

[Sweet Freedom]

10. Unexpressed emotions

That's me! (Supposedly, my Pluto square Pluto this year and next will remedy that!)

It's been a while since I had the dream, so I don't remember the particular circumstances of my life at the time. The "past experience that went horribly wrong" doesn't seem to fit, but the "beating myself up" definitely could.

Thanks! I thought I just liked my house and didn't want to move. :)

[Behind the Aegis]

12. Let it out, friend!

If the past experience is not correct (again, an assumption on my part), then it really may indicate YOU are your own worst enemy. Ease up on yourself! Your emotions are very powerful, but they have no outlet, so they turn inward. Find a safe outlet, and let them out!

You are "moving" into a new phase of your life. Also, some of those feelings may be because you did like your old house! :) Give yourself time to settle in, but do not neglect your emotions!!!

Be well!

I am glad this was more mundane. I was a little worried. So, I am glad to hear this is just a case of being too hard on yourself (although, that is not all that great!!!).

:)

[murray hill farm]

24. good interpretation!!

i would add only that..she/he who had the dream feels that they will die...suffacate..if they do not move on from where they are right now..this may not mean actual death, but rather..death of the soul..not soul, literally..but of the real self of the individual..like the person feels strangled or suffocated in the environment of the present life situation.

[carolinayellowdog]

7. The surprise party

Hey,

Here's a vivid one I had last month. As I entered my driveway, I noticed a large number of people milling around on my deck and in the yard. A big party was obviously going on; when I got out of the car and approached the house I checked out the people and they seemed middle class "normal" types, nothing scary. Irritated but intrigued that a party was happening at my house without my knowledge, I asked the guy closest to me who had invited all these people. "Kathy" he replied. I asked where she was, and he pointed her out. I walked over to her and asked why she hadn't consulted me before inviting all these people to party at my house. She just looked at me sullenly and silently, as if to say "I'll invite whomever I want wherever I want and it's none of your damn business."

That woke me up!

CYD

[Behind the Aegis]

11. Shake your groove thang!

Hello CYD. As I have stated in other posts, when I make an assumption based on my feeling and not the dream, I will post in italics. If that is incorrect, let me know, as it may change the analysis.

The first thing is I am assuming that you don't know a Kathy or at least, you don't associate a Kathy with this type of behavior. So, "Kathy" is a version of you. That said, what I am seeing here is you may have an issue with social events. You are ill-at-ease, but fascinated by large amounts of people. You enjoy them from a distance, but feel slightly 'threatened' when surrounded. You are an introvert, but have some extrovert qualities that are trying to surface. "Kathy" is your extroverted side. Strong, silent, but speaks volumes with a few, or no, words. It is odd to see "silent" and "extrovert" in the same sentence; so, I feel this is telling me that you have a balanced personality, but the extrovert side is aching to come out! It (the extrovert) will not be a wild, party animal, but will draw from a new source of strength, others. Something in your dream life is indicating you need to rely more on your extrovert nature at this moment in your waking life. I am sensing a work-related issue. Perhaps you are up for promotion or change in jobs and you need to find strength from others (evaluations or references). Or, it could be a project that will require you to work with others, something that makes you a little uncomfortable.

In essence, this is a dream all about you! You might want to explore other sides of yourself with the help of CLOSE friends. Baby steps, at first. I also feel something really unexpected is coming your way. It will be big, it will trouble you at first, until you become more comfortable with it. In all honesty, I think this situation is happening now, or is just around the corner.

Does that "shut up Kathy?" :)

[carolinayellowdog]

13. Right on! (AFAIK)

Hey,

Very good! I score equally I and E on the Myers-Briggs, which makes me an introvert, but just barely. With parties and such, I tend to have a lot of anxiety in advance imagining I'll be uncomfortable, but then in the moment everything is always fine.

As for the project or situation emerging, I've been working for a while on a book about family history that gets into some vivid and dramatic stories involving murder, race, sex scandals, etc. On one hand I loathe the idea of putting my "personal business in the street" so to speak by publishing this stuff while still employed in a public position. On the other hand, retirement looms within a few years, the project is moving right along, and a very promising contact has emerged in my life (someone with great qualifications to advise me and publishing savvy too.)

My guess in light of your promptings is that part of me is appalled that another part of me is going forward with a project that will expose centuries of family secrets including some of my own. That other part, who is inviting all those strangers into my private domain, we'll call "Kathy" :)

Thanks a bunch!

CYD

[Behind the Aegis]

14. Sounds very interesting!

This sounds like an interesting project, and exciting too! I sense some very good things ahead. I also think you will discover something very interesting and shocking, but you will gain some VERY valuable insight!

Let me know how it goes!!

[murray hill farm]

25. Do you feel that your personal space is being invaded?

This is a classic dream for that feeling..the house being your personal space and all. In your waking life, do u have that feeling of late? Have uhad a lot of visitors lately? Do u feel others are making decisions for u..taking up the space either physically or emotionally that u need for yourself right now?

[carolinayellowdog]

28. A little, but more that it's being neglected

Hey,

At work there have been cases recently of inappropriate interference from subordinates and higherups. So it could be that. But I'm only at my house 2 or 3 nights per week, splitting time between there, an apartment, and my partner's place. Probably the dream reflects unease that I'm away from my house so much-- who knows what might be happening!

CYD

[murray hill farm]

29. yeah..that makes sense!

I do believe that dreams are little gifts that our unconscious mind gives to us when we sleep. I think it really helps to self interpret dreams..and since u had the dream..u are the best person to do it...and a good way to do that is to write down the dream..as you have done...and then add to it what was my feeling when this was happening..and then when this was happening, etc. i find this really helpful. a nice thing to do is to start a dream journal for yourself..keep it next to your bed..and then if you wake up after a dream or first thing in the morning..then very quickly just write a key word from the dream down in the journal..helpful if you just wake up in the night..and then go back to sleep again..since it is so easy then to forget the dream..in the case of your dream..maybe just the word..kathy..or whatever..and then when u look at it in the morning..that one word will bring it back and you can then write out the whole dream. I think, too..that journaling dreams really does encourage them..or maybe u just remember them more..but either way..it is helpful to do. I believe when the message is delivered..that meaning of the dream to you...then, u do not have the dream again..no need..message sent from unconscious mind to conscious mind..and recieved. I really love the dream process..and do think of it as little gifts.

[hippiechick]

16. Here we go ....

I was in a medical clinic examining room, and I knew that I was there to be euthanized.

Apparently there was a woman in another room who was suffering from some disease for which I was the only possible donor match. Not sure which organ(s) they needed.

I remember seeing the stent taped to my hand, and that I kept telling myself that there was nothing to be afraid of, that I was just going to 'go to sleep' and it would all be over, I wouldn't feel anything, it wasn't going to hurt, that I should just accept it and let go. And thru the whole dream I had this 'feeling' like I was at the edge of a cliff - that knot in your gut ? - even after I awoke, I felt that tension.

This procedure couldn't get started until the dr came back from the other patient's room & for some reason it was taking a tremendous amount of time, and I remember sitting there trying to fight my fear because I 'knew' there was no alternative than to have this happen.

The dream ended with no resolution, and it has not reoccured or continued since then.

Good luck & Thanks !!!

:hippie:

[Behind the Aegis]

17. Is there a doctor in the house? Let's hope not!

This is an unusual dream, I must say. As stated above, if I assume something, I will place it in italics. If the assumption is wrong, let me know, as it may change the meaning of the dream analysis.

Here is what I see for this dream. You were in a 'helpless' situation that depended on someone else to make a decision. The decision was filling you with dread, although, you really knew it wasn't that big of a deal. There was a "peace" knowing that someone else was making the decision, but you don't like for other's to do that and it makes you ill-at-ease. We often wake with the same feeling from a dream, that is often just residual from the dream state. You had to wait a long time for this decision to be made and felt it was your only option.

Since it has not reoccurred or 'played out,' I am guessing the situation never materialized or it ended and wasn't as big as deal as you thought! Another thought I had, is that this "decision" was having to be made by you and you were split about what to do and there was an amount of dread involved...but I still feel it has worked out or the decision is no longer needed.

Was that even close? I thought this would be an easy one, but now I am not so sure. Let me know.

[hippiechick]

18. Sort of

It's very true that I have a horrible time letting anyone make decisions for me.

However, I saw this dream in a more Spiritual (and literal) sense of facing my previously unexplored fears about 'the big beyond'. My guides teach me through dreams, as I tend to be preoccupied and distracted the other 18 hours of the day.

Thanks !!

:hippie:

[Behind the Aegis]

19. New information!

Since It's very true that {you} have a horrible time letting anyone make decisions for me, perhaps the high anxiety in your dream prevented the "doctor" (possibly a guide) from returning. You were "telling yourself it was like going to sleep and there was nothing to worry about," yet you continued to worry quite a bit. The situation has not played itself out because you still have some fear about the "big beyond." Perhaps more exploration about it in your waking state and controlling (or at least recognizing your) anxieties and fears will reestablish the dream.

It's like I said in the first post to you, I thought this was very clear cut when I read it the first few times. However, as I continued to 'analyze' the dream, I sensed something more was going on and it was more complex then I first assumed. The above paragraph may give you a little more insight, but I feel this is between you and your guides.

I would love to know how it goes! (if you choose to share)

[murray hill farm]

26. You are so good at this!!!!

i think i would only add that she was also allowing this to occur..was going with it even though afraid..that sort of taking part in the process. If the meaning to her is spiritual..i would believe that it is...and this may be a letting go of the fear of loss of body..and the material being.

[NashVegas]

20. Great Timing - I Had a Bizarre One Last Night

It started out with a recurring thing that's been coming up for several months. I'm driving an old 1960s sports car (usually a Mustang - which I once owned, and it was a beat-up piece of crap - but sometimes more exotic) that seems like it's barely holding together. By all rights, it should be dead and I have two or more that I keep for back-up, or spare parts. Miraculously, they all run, as well. But the car I'm driving always gets me where I need to go and never breaks down on the way. I always expect it will but it never does.

This is where it gets flakey.

I got to wherever I was going and was in a basement poking around, and got caught in a spider web that was incredibly strong. When I looked up and saw the spider, perched on a shelf, I froze with dread. It was huge, like 10 inches from leg to leg, and it was mechanical, it's legs were stainless steel. At that point I woke.

Have at it :)

[Behind the Aegis]

21. Let me see if I can make a go of this!

Same disclaimer as in the other posts...if I make an assumption, not based on the dream, I will post it in italics. If I am off, let me know, as that may change the analysis.

Recurring dreams are usually trying to drive (no pun intended) a point home. Cars, often, represent our "drive" or motivation. Because of the condition of the car, I feel that you probably are easy-going and don't much care how you "get there," as long as you do. Motivation is not a real challenge for you. It is "well-worn" or comfortable. Sometimes, you are a little more attuned to your motivation, but for the most part, the end result is more important. Sometimes, you feel like you are just not going to make it, but somehow, you always find the strength to go on.

Basements represent our subconscious or "inner self." You describe yourself as "poking around," and I take that as you may have recently embarked on a spiritual journey or are exploring your psychic side. Being caught in the web, suggests a battle with yourself. Perhaps, you come from a more skeptical or practical background, but this 'adventure' is still very exciting. You are 'entangled' in a variety of thoughts. The spider can represent a feminine energy (associated with psychic abilities) or someone standing in your way. I feel it is possibly blossoming abilities. The fact that the spider is so big, may represent that the process or new thoughts are a little overwhelming and frighting. Since it is mechanical, perhaps you are focusing on an 'artificial' ability, more out of interest, than actual talent.

When I combine the two, it appears you are motivated to explore a different, subconscious, self. It appears to be a confusing and big task. I feel you may be exploring your psychic side, but you are focusing on the "wrong" thing. I put 'wrong' in quotes, because it is not really wrong, it just may not be the most natural way for you to progress. To make this a little less confusing, I will use this example: You are exploring your psychic side and you decide to study and use the Tarot. This is OK to do, but you are struggling with it. Perhaps, you are more suited for the Runes or astrology. If you are looking at a different religion, perhaps you might consider a different path. I don't know if that made it less confusing or just muddied up the water more!

All in all, I feel you are a happy person and like to seek out new things.

How was that?!

[NashVegas]

22. more or less

for the car part, motivation actually is something I have trouble gathering, if a task isn't already something I intrinsically want/need to do. However, the past several years, my mantra has been "it doesn't have to be perfect, it just has to be finished." Still working on it.

As for the spider web, well, there has been a part of my nature I've been exploring, but totally unrelated to any psychic abilities, etc.

But I'm basically happy and do enjoy seeking out new things. :)

[murray hill farm]

27. Actually..i think the spider is you!! Ha!!

and u feel intangled in your own web...beocming half physical and organic and half mechanical..like the spider you..hahahaha! I know this sounds silly, but it was your dream...do u sometimes feel that u put too much of your time into your car..so much so that u are becoming one with it..in the sense of feeling that too much of your life revolves around it?

[Sweet Freedom]

43. Cars, often, represent our "drive" or motivation

I always know that I've taken on too much work when I have a dream that I'm in a Flintstones car peddling uphill as fast as I can on the busiest freeway in town. :)

[Matariki]

30. hey cool, can i go too?

i dreamed: I realized I was having an art show at the local museum - a very big deal - and it opened that night. Then I realized that I only had 3 pieces for the show and was very upset with myself. One of the pieces was a sculpture of an animal which had gotten broken (a lizard? a cow?). I remembered that I had a portfolio of older drawings and took them with me to meet up with some friends at a coffee shop. When it was time to leave the coffee shop and head for the museum, I found myself picking up three snakes which were my pets. I put the first one around my neck and she was a nice and docile blue-green snake which i liked fine. The second was a black and red, long thin snake which was more wiry and active. I had a moment of lucidity in the dream at this point and wondered if i really actually liked snakes at all. So I held the black and red snake up to look at it and pet it on the head. When I tried to put him around my neck too, he got tangled in my hair on the left side of my head. The more i tried to get him out of my hair the more he got tangled in it - i started worrying that i was going to hurt him and also was upset that i was going to have to go to my opening with a snake in my hair. I woke up pulling my hand through my hair.

(i have an idea of *who* the black and red snake but i'm not quite sure what it means.)

so, what do you think doctor? ;-)

[NMDemDist2]

31. wha happened to the third snake??

inquiring minds want to know

[Matariki]

32. it was still on the floor

i woke up before i got to that one.

[Behind the Aegis]

34. Let's ssssssseee what I can do!

Typical disclaimer...If I make an assumption, I will indicate it in italics. The first assumption is that you are an artist of some sort. Therefore, you probably have some anxiety at showing off your work, no matter how proud you are of it. Showing up to an art show without your pieces is probably that anxiety we all feel when stressed. The broken sculpture may indicate a 'break' from the norm. I am sensing a change in style or subject. You meet with friends (support) to affirm what is happening, but I am not feeling a great upheaval, more of a slight anxiety.

Snakes have a number of meanings...one meaning being obvious! ;-) However, here, I feel it is showing transformation and a new knowledge. Because they felt like pets, these changes are not very threatening. The first snake, I feel, represents a changing idea, or a new experience. It is tranquil, almost peaceful in its newness. The other snake, seems you have identified this as a possible person, is more of an issue. I am not sensing a real threat, but this 'person' is creating a problem. However, you seem to be able to exert some control over this person, but s/he is still "getting in your hair." The color red indicates danger, but I am feeling it is a muted danger. This 'person' may be saying things about you that are not true (speaking with a forked tongue), but smiling to your face. Use caution. The color black, indicates to me, that you are "on" to this situation and are not quite sure how to handle it.

That is what I am seeing with this dream. Are there elements you recognize in it? I didn't get a real strong sense on this dream (I haven't been feeling real well). But, I do not sense danger, but rather, a positive change that is happening now. I also sense another person (an ally) is working behind the scenes to help you...I have no idea why I typed that as it has NOTHING to do with your dream. So, take that last sentence with a couple of pinches of salt. :)

What do you think?!

[Matariki]

35. hey that's good

i'm an artist yes, i've always had anxiety about showing my work, kind of subconsciously, but aware of it. it plays out by not working enough. you were right on about me changing my subject & style - i wouldn't have got that from the dream.

there's a little background with the snakes i think. i wanted to see what you'd say but it might make more sense if i tell you.

i've been studying Vodou - not the stoopid hollywood, pins in dolls stuff, but the really amazing and profound religion that it is. I recently (before my dream) had a reading and went to a service and was told that in addition to my Met Tet (kind of a person's guardian angel) a couple other Loa 'walk with me'. One of them is Simbi Makaya the loa of magic, and his colors are black and red and he is often symbolized as a long thin snake. Another was Ayida Wedo, who is a sort of primal, creative, beneficent and protective mother goddess. I sort of think she was the the first snake, but i'm not sure.

I'm pretty sure this was an aspect of the dream, in which case I don't think the red & black stood for danger. But why do you think Simbi was in my hair? The feeling of not wanting to damage him and the embarrassment of having a snake in my hair seemed significant. Also, I'm told that when you start working with them, the Loa will come to you in your dreams. Maybe?

oh and thank you thank you for doing this. it's fun.

on edit: doh! i just reread your post and i must have breezed through that last paragraph on the first read - the part about an ally working behind the scenes. Excellent call! That would be the Loa, i think. Very cool. thanks.

[Behind the Aegis]

36. Interesting new tid-bits

How interesting this is. It is VERY possible the Loa have made contact. The first snake may be the 'person' I was sensing that was trying to help you. I also sense another person (an ally) is working behind the scenes to help you...I have no idea why I typed that as it has NOTHING to do with your dream. Perhaps, it did have something to do with your dream! The other part The color red indicates danger, but I am feeling it is a muted danger. may be that there is always danger with magick. But, I feel you are not in any immediate peril. The male Loa can be pretty tricky. It is in their nature. :)

But why do you think Simbi was in my hair? The feeling of not wanting to damage him and the embarrassment of having a snake in my hair seemed significant. Perhaps because he is wanting more of your attention than you are giving him? You don't want to hurt (offend) him, thus you are taking care to remove him. As for the embarrassment, maybe you would be embarrassed if your friends/patrons knew you were showing interest in Voudon? May be you are concerned that they would only think of what they saw on TV and associate that with you. So, perhaps the Loa are coming to you. You are 'overlooking' one of them! Maybe a prayer to Simbi might invoke the dream again so you can meet the other Loa.

I do not know too much about Voudon. I have been to New Orleans and saw some interesting things there. I have read about Voudon and watched programs about it. But, don't discount the "dolls!" Interestingly enough, those types of dolls have been around for a long time! If you look at this Magick Heira you will see an early Greek "voodoo" doll!

Be well. I look to further conversations. BTW....what do you think about my second go around about this dream?

Brightest Blessings!

[Matariki]

37. wow, your intuition is right on

i'll take your advice and do a service for Simbi. That's probably exactly the advice I'd get from a Mambo ;-)

As for the embarrassment part - i guess when i mention my interest in Vodou i feel the need to qualify it, like i did in my first post here. Also my paintings are very strongly influenced by my interest in magick and i probably feel a little bit protective of that aspect of myself. Magick *is* a little bit wild and dangerous and in my dream i have the spirit of magick caught in my hair, for all the world to see but i'm wanting to present myself all respectable. HA! Well, i've been working on that recently - i guess what you could call throat chakra issues.

thanks for the interpretation, it's helpful :-)

ps. i have that book Magika Heira, and the companion book The Greek Magical Papyri. Interesting stuff. I don't discount the 'dolls' LOL. As far as i understand though, the use of poppets (and sticking pins in them) isn't part of Haitian Vodou. It might be used a little in New Orleans Voodoo since that is more of a mix of European folk magic and Spiritualism. I don't want to hijack this very cool dream thread but if you want to carry on this conversation (?) maybe we could start a different thread. I'm not sure if this topic wouldn't be more appropriate in the Pagan Spirituality room though?

[Behind the Aegis]

38. let's start another thread in the Pagan room

I thought that would be a cool room and, with another DUer, we got Skinner to approve it! I was pretty happy!! Some of the things that have popped in there are pretty neat and, so far, no disruptions!

I believe that Voudon practitioners use "poppets" and other things like that. Not quite the movie version of Voodoo dolls, but a similar use for them is indicated in some writings.

Start a thread on the topic and let's see where it goes. I am glad you liked the dream thing. I am still working on it, but I like the fact I get "impressions" when I hear or see them. Who knows, maybe I am onto something!

[NashVegas]

33. Another One for You

This is one I had when I was a 13 year old. By the time you get to the follow-up of the post, I think you'll have an idea why it's always stayed with me.

I dreamed my dear friend, Carol, had died. Carol was actually the daughter of the man my mother had been dating for 5 years and we were the same age, and very close. Anyway, in the dream, when I went to view her body, there was nothing there, and when I asked members of our families to take me to wherever her body was, they refused. Finally, I talked a high school friend (a casual acquaintance) to take me to her body. He brought me to the morgue, but when I pulled out the drawer, it was empty. I knew then that Carol wasn't really dead and that everyone was lying to me, and I begged this kid to show me where she really was.

He brought me out to the woods and there was Carol, living with a witch who'd somehow revived her, but changed her. Only she wasn't the boisterous, outgoing Carol I knew and loved. She was no fun. No swearing, no smoking, no jokes, no wisecracks, no drugs, no boys. A regular goody-two shoes. Woke up pretty distraught.



Aegis interpretation space






















Okay, now the fun:

Within 6 months of this dream, our parents broke up. Carol and her dad lived an hour away, so we didn't get to see each other anymore. We wrote back and forth for about a year, and made occasional phone calls, but eventually it all trailed off.

Several years later, give or take, my older sister had a friend we'd visit every now and then, who lived not far from Carol. One weekend on a whim, I found her number and they dropped me off so we could catch up.

After an hour's conversation, I knew I didn't care if I ever saw Carol again. She hadn't changed at all: I did. She was still the same hell-raiser I knew, but there were other things about her that I refused to see when we were kids, that I saw all too clearly at 18. Where my tastes in music and culture had expanded, she was still into the same things we were into as 13 year olds. Where I was into concepts, she was into leather jackets, and she was still making jokes at other peoples' expense - including mine.


I figure the dream was partly pre-cognitive, partly about subconsciously knowing I was being dazzled by a strong personality.

How'd you do?

[Behind the Aegis]

39. I did OK

I got the first part head on. The second part, I was a little off. I figured she was the same person, but you were too, but just didn't click anymore. So, I missed that part about your change. Oh well, I am still learning, so I appreciate the 'exercise!' :)

[NashVegas]

40. Cool Beans

glad to help.

[davsand]

41. Here's an odd one:

Yesterday AM. It was that last dream before waking--the one that always stays with me...

Hubby and I are riding in the car. Bright, bright, sunshine day--made even brighter by snow cover--almost painfully bright. hubby is driving the car.

We pull off the interstate at the same interchange we always use and go up the exit ramp. The snow is getting deeper all around us. it is piled up in snowbanks along side the exit ramp.

We go on up the exit ramp, and I can see the snow piled up higher than the roof of the car. I can see the crystalline quality of it--it isn't a solid block of ice it is dry powdery snow in huge mounds.

As we turn to go up and over the overpass I look out and the snow begins to blow around (not an uncommon sight here in Illinois in January, I might add...) Suddenly, there is so much snow blowing I couldn't see ahead of us and I feel afraid.

I ask hubby to stop the car and he tells me he can't because anyone behind us will not be able to see us and might hit us from behind.
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I am curious what you can pull out of THIS one. It has stumped me since yesterday!


Laura

[Behind the Aegis]

42. Snow answer in sight!

Hi! Sorry, it took a couple of days for me to get to this. I have been trying to put together a presentation for an upcoming job interview (been out of work for 19 months...I need a job!!) and I was kinda sick. :( Anywho, enough with my drama, let's look at yours! :)

As always, if I make an assumption it will be in italics. If it is way off, let me know, as it may change the meaning. Also, if I strike something too personal, please PM or email me!

I saw this almost immediately after you posted it, so I thought I'd have an easy time with it....wrong assumption on my part! I have read and reread it a few times now. I am getting TWO different feelings. So, I will tell you what the dream may mean in terms of the actual symbols, then I will give you my impressions.

Often, snow will represent inhibitions or feelings of "coldness" toward something or someone. It may also be a "cover" for your real feelings. So, the dream may signify you are not only feeling a little out of control (you are not driving) and you are feeling inhibited about something. You may also feel that your opinion/feelings will be dismissed because of someone else's issues. That would be the "literal" meaning, of sorts.

Now, for my speculations, I feel you may be very concerned about the recent weather 'freakishness' in the news and this has become somewhat disconcerting for you. --OR-- You are feeling your husband is not listening to you and you have retreated into yourself and are covering your real feelings. Perhaps he has said something that really "frosts" you, but you aren't sure about making your feelings known because you feel he may blow them off because of concern for something else. The second speculation is not strong at all! It feels, if it is correct, that is nothing more than a simple misunderstanding that has become blown out of proportion.

I am really sorry this interpretation sucked so bad. I may be off because I am not back up to full steam just yet. Let me down gently...how far off was I?

[davsand]

46. You make sense, but it isn't news I want to face.

Your interpretation hit some chords, but I'm not sure I really want to wrestle them extensively here in an open forum. I never caught the symbology of the 'snow job' before--or the "chill" for that matter.

Sounds like I have some relationship work to do.

Thanks!


Laura

[Sweet Freedom]

44. One more from me if you don’t mind

This was the worst dream (nightmare) that I ever had. Sorry if it's too much detail, but I suffered from it repeatedly for many years as a child, so I remember it well.

It’s one of those dreams that make no sense, so I’ll try my best to put it into words.

I dream that I open a double door to a cellar (the kind that go underground), and I accidentally release this horrible monster force. Multiple, enormous (tall) brown masses of terror.

The monsters go on a killing spree starting with my uncle who is outside selling ice cream from a vendor cart (he’s wearing a white outfit with the old-fashioned hat.) He offers them an ice-cream cone and the monsters, in a Tasmanian devil sort of way, rip him to shreds (no blood, he’s just gone.)

The monsters travel up the street and I can see my aunt (the wife of my uncle, the aunt is my blood relative). She has long blond hair, is dressed in a pretty yellow dress with a ribbon around the waist, has a yellow daisy in her hair, and is holding a martini glass (?) in one hand. She looks beautiful, like she’s posing for a picture. The monsters destroy her.

I am witnessing all of this and know that I must stop them. So I put myself out in the open and let the monsters surround me. I’m just a little kid (4 or 5), so I’m being very brave. The monsters form a circle around me and start to close in. (Now I am looking at what’s happening and I’m not experiencing what I’m doing.) They form a tight circle around me, and I simply slip out between them to freedom. The monsters attack each other by mistake and destroy each other.

End of dream, except that every time I had the dream I would wake on my stomach and it felt as if someone was sitting on me and I could barely breathe. I wish I could describe the feeling. It wasn’t like a panic attack, but it was a feeling a doom -- like something bad was with me. That feeling was almost more terrifying than the dream.

I have never ever understood any part of this dream. (I can say that the martini glass must have some significance to me. It’s very purposeful somehow, and odd because my aunt wasn’t a drinker.)

[Behind the Aegis]

48. Nightmares

No funny subject title because I didn't want it to seem I was trivializing your childhood trauma. You know the drill! And, when interpreting dreams, there can never be too much information! :)

I am assuming you no longer have this dream, or that it is very rare if you do have it now as an adult. What I see in the imagery of this dream is a child looking into the 'darkness of the unknown' (the cellar) and in doing so, basically, opens Pandora's box. However, the evils of the world are not unleashed, but great fears are unleashed. For a child, one of the greatest fears is death. Your uncle selling ice cream (something most children enjoy) seems to indicate a fondness for him and a "sense of innocence." Your aunt is covered in yellow and in a bad dream this can show fright, cowardice, or indecision. The glass (was it empty?) shows she holds some type of knowledge, something you desire. There was a fear of losing them both. Were they your primary caretakers or very close to you? Somehow, even as a child, you pull yourself together, and confront your fears and allow them to destroy themselves. You feared the death of others and had very little concern that you would die. It was more scary to think someone else would die before (in front of) you.

The feeling after the dream was residual. I really think this dream reflected your fear, as a child, of the death of loved ones; thus, the feeling of doom and not panic. Did you ever wake from the dream feeling like they might really be dead?

I don't know how helpful this was, but it seems you had some very deep seated fears. Did this shed any light on the issue?

[Sweet Freedom]

50. I'm so glad to hear

it was some sort of "normal" fear.

It's true that I no longer have this dream.

This is true too: You feared the death of others and had very little concern that you would die. It was more scary to think someone else would die before (in front of) you.

I think maybe my fear was that my parents would die. If they had, I would have been raised by this aunt and uncle (whom I do love and care for. Being raised by them wouldn't have been awful to me, but losing my mom would have.)

I don't remember if I thought they were dead once I woke.

There may have been something in the martini glass (olive on a stick?), but I can't be sure.

Thank you for your time and all the great logical explanations!

[Mandate My Ass]

45. Strange dream I've been pondering for over a year

In my dream I'm driving to my new house, only I've never laid eyes on it before and I'm not sure I'll like it. Not only that, but there is to be a party there almost immediately after I get there and I don't feel ready.

I see the house and it's everything I've ever dreamed of in a house. Old-fashioned stone but with lots of windows and light and in fact, there is a great deal of beautiful glass inside which gives it a twinkling effect that is both tranquil and dazzling. There are trees outside and beautiful plants inside.

I walk into the kitchen (always my fave room) and to my surprise my two dead grandmothers are in there. They tell me they're there to cook for the guests and I try to tell them I want to spend time with them because I haven't seen them in so long but they shoo me away and I hear and smell a great deal of cooking going on. They tell me I must go get dressed and that there is a cake that needs frosting and that is the only job they'll allow me to do.

There is a yellow, floral, very feminine dress laid out on my bed. This is not my style of clothing at all but I'm glad to see it and I put it on and find it pretty. The yellow sunlight is coming in the window and guests are arriving and I want to go outside and see people in my new beautiful garden.

Then I find the cake. It is absolutely HUGE, like a wedding cake on steroids. The vat of icing is huge too. I very carefully begin to apply the icing and I realize this is going to take a long time to finish and I'm not even sure I can carry it outside. Then it collapses and I wake up.

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I'm quite impressed with your interpretations so far.

[Behind the Aegis]

47. Don't that just frost your cupcake!

First, thanks for the compliment. It is much appreciated! Second, as I say in the other posts, if I make an assumption (not based in the dream symbols), then I will indicate it by placing the comment (word) in italics. If it is incorrect, let me know as it may change the outlook.

Since this dream is over a year old and you are still thinking about it, there is some importance to it. Here is what I am seeing (based on the symbols). You are driving (motivation, need for control) to a new house (self). You are "re-inventing" yourself, and you are uncertain you will like it as much as the "old" you. To make matters worse, there will be others who will notice! This almost sounds like you took a new job or promotion, and had to change yourself some to meet the needs of others. Your "fears" are way-laid when you realize that your "new" self is like your "old" self (the old stone facade). It also shows you are happy with the "new" self; you see it as more open, light, "giving," tranquil, and "natural" (the trees and plants).

The kitchen can symbolize your need for spiritual nourishment. It can also represent the domestic side of your nature. Since your grandmothers are there, it may symbolize a need to make contact with a spiritual side of yourself(perhaps they encouraged it in life). The smells and "clattering about" illicit joy, which may show that this is something you are looking for in a positive frame of mind. Their 'advice' to get dressed might suggest they are telling to "prepare" yourself for what you are about to experience. Although the dress (how we "disguise" ourselves) is not your typical wear, you are happy and this seems to suggest that the new persona may not be exactly what you were expecting, but it is still pleasant and will prepare you for what is about to come (the party and the eyes of others). You attend to the cake, which can represent rewards for hard work and change. You recognize that your "change" was needed and suits (dresses) you just fine! You are in such control, that you get to "ice" your own cake. Literally, this experience is the "icing on the cake!" However, the 'rewards' are almost overwhelming, too much to carry, and it collapses in on its own weight. This is probably just worry about all the changes or it is a warning not to take on too much at once!

Here is a 'feeling' I have about this: you are embarking on a very important journey; one of self-discovery. I feel you are surrounded by very supportive people and you are very self-assured. Be careful not to take on too much at once, but do not be afraid to explore, it may not be as bad as you think!

How was that? See anything new with this breakdown of the dream? Let me know! :)

[Mandate My Ass]

51. Wow, you gave me chills

Bravo. The need for change was pretty obvious to me but the other symbols really eluded me and what you said makes perfect sense.

I knew I needed to change because I realized I was suppressing so much and the constant effort was wearing on me. I did change jobs rather involuntarily and my new boss indicated that he found me "stand-offish" (yes, he's a jerk) which really bothered me a lot but I needed the job so I made an effort to appear more outgoing which improved things to some extent. I'm somewhat of an introvert but I find the effort to overcome that very rewarding most times, although preferably voluntarily. The job change came during a time of personal turmoil as well.

My grandmothers made a big impact on my life. Both were excellent cooks, but the thing that impressed me the most was how they came through significant troubles without apology or compromise but with strength and grace, which is my definition of femininity. The importance of their appearance in my dream and their advice to change into a dress I hope means that I am becoming more like them. The cooking seems to indicate they were there taking care of the things that needed to be done for others, so that I could do the thing that needed to be done for me. One of the changes I resolved to make around the time of that dream was to stop putting myself last.

Though I dream vividly, my every sense was acutely alive in this dream. Even the sunlight had a celestial quality to it and I am on a spiritual quest of sorts, so what you said was spot on.

Thank you!!! I hope I can return the favor some day. :hi:

[Behind the Aegis]

49. My dream

Thanks for everyone that took a chance and exposed a little of themselves so I could work on my dream skills. I will keep checking this thread from time to time, but I will be very busy until the middle of the last week of January. I have three interviews coming up that are back on the East Coast (I'm in OK), so I will be away from regular computer use. I will also be visiting my parents, so that will take up some time too (I haven't seen them in a year because of distance).

I have been without a job for almost 20 months now, so these interviews are VERY important and I have to prepare for them and prepare presentations. I would appreciate any good thoughts (I am not too worried about the actual interviews, but I HATE to fly and I will be criss-crossing the Eastern seaboard by plane).

So, if I don't respond to a dream request, give it a little time. Thanks for understanding and PLEASANT DREAMS!!

[hangemhigh]

52. 2 dreams, one nightmare about my mother 3 nights in a row...

The first, my sister and I are in a strange house but we are in the company of distant family members. A phone rings and I answer and am told that my mother has died. I hang up and call the (only funeral home in my small home town, cannot believe I dreamed the name of it) to confirm and I am told it is true. I tell my sister. She and I decide to shower, dress, put on our makeup and do our nails and hair before we go to the funeral home-in the dream this took some time and the details of the preparation were vivid. As we leave to go to the funeral home, the dream ends.

The next night, I dreamed that I was in an unknown house and in bed (though not sexually) with a real email buddy I have never met in person. He is a Muslim and has taught me a great deal about various religions. As a Muslim, he would automatically inspire my mother's hatred. He is someone I trust and respect. He is not romantically available (in real life) nor would I expect that I would be interested if he were. My mother comes into the bedroom and chases him away. He is wearing a long white dressing gown. I find him in a grocery store and we are buying fruits and vegetables and piling them in a basket as a gift for my mother. We pay and leave and the remainder of the dream is filled with physical obstacles to getting the fruit basket back to her (traffic, I fall into a shallow old pool, we get lost). We stop at a quick shop type of gas station to get directions and the dream ends. When it ends I am feeling frustrated, although not necessarily determined to find the way.

Last night I dreamed that my brother, sister and I were in an unfamiliar house and our mother tried to attack us with a large knife. We subdued her and while waiting for help (oddly it was not the police who were coming, but the men in white jackets) we began to debate whether or not we should have her committed. When the dream ends, my brother and sister have decided we should let her go (let her go free). I tell these "men" that she is sick and violent and needs help. As they take her away, my sister and brother join her in trying to attack me with the knife. The dream ends with this struggle.

All very morbid stuff, right? The family rarely has contact with mother. She is an angry, manipulative and bitter woman who has caused each of us tremendous pain and struggle over the years. Each time we try to do the right thing and be kind to her, it is always regrettable. This happened again this year over the holidays. The fact that I am having these kinds of dreams doesn't surprise me and I will gladly tell you how I interpret them, although I have no training or background in dream interpretation. What I find of interest is that she is present 3 nights in a row and that she is alternately dead, chasing away someone I care about and I am trying to appease her, and then physically attacking. I would be so interested in hearing your take on this and I thank you in advance.

[Behind the Aegis]

53. This is a tough one

I just got back from interviewing and time at my parents' house, so I may not be back in "full swing" just yet. I have read and reread your post several times. Sometimes, I would just read a part or two. For some reason, I don't feel the need to interpret this dream has I have done others above. I don't 'see' the need to break the dreams into little parts. So, I am entering a new way of interpreting this dream. Usually, I say if I am making an assumption then it will be in italics. However, in this case, i will use italics to distinguish "traditional" translations of dreams, the rest of the interpretations will be "assumptions" or, more accurately, my sensations. I apologize for this odd way of doing this, but your post is striking me in an odd way, so I am going with my feelings. Here goes....

The house is often our "self." Since you say all the houses are strange, I think it may mean you are in VERY unfamiliar territory! You are dealing with feelings you are not comfortable with nor used to. You are feeling some anguish about your feelings toward your mother. She is not a nice person, but she is still your mother and you may feel some guilt about not liking her and that she is, in a way, "dead to you." In dream one, it seems your subconscious mind has taken her "death to you" to a literal meaning, and the meticulous dressing you and your sister do is tantamount to "making yourselves up" or "covering" your true feelings in order to deal with your mother. The second dream seems to have been translated already by you. You feel your mother does not approve of you or your life and this dream reinforces that feeling. You also have no real desire to make her understand or reach her (your 'failure' to reach her with a peace offering). The frustration is that no matter what you do, it will never be good enough. The final dream/nightmare is your feeling attacked by her and a feeling that your brother and sister may not support your feelings about your mother. You may feel your mother is not very balanced and thrives on her own hate and attacks (the knife has several meanings, but in this case, I am not sensing it is needing to be translated, but is rather just an instrument). Seeing your siblings attack you feels like you "fear" they are not on the same page as you are when it comes to your mother. I honestly feel that is more of a fear than reality. We often think our strongest allies really are not on our side, but really plotting with our enemy.

Again, I apologize because I don't know how close this is, but your post "screamed" at me! It was not asking for a more traditional translation. If this not even close, let me know and I will try a more traditional approach.

This is totally off the wall, but I sense (I know that is odd from just a post) a really strong something in you...something very good. You have a very kind heart, perhaps a teacher...but I feel you are a very strong person, but you doubt your own strength. You are a "victim" of "we are our own worst enemy." I don't sense you are a "control junkie," so why do you feel the need to control this situation (this is a total assumption/sensation on my part)? You have a very happy nature about you...let it take on this situation!

Was I way off? I hope not. I know how hard it is to be at odds with someone who is important in your life, no matter how you may feel about him or her.

[hangemhigh]

54. Spot on.

I hardly know where to begin. It's interesting that this post called to you, probably in the same way I was called to post it, having never done so in this forum or any other, before. Most of my DU posts consist of, "Bush is an asshole," and so on.

Having read the previous dreams and your interpretations, I already had confidence in what you might see and at the same time, understood that what I described had a number of levels to it. You have validated these things and I am profoundly grateful for the insight.

It is a fact that I am alternately torn between feelings of allegiance to my mother via guilt, shame, manipulation and our blood connection over the years and the glaring fact that she is toxic to me and to others. My conflict (and that of my siblings) has continually been the reconciliation of this-my nature is that of loyalty. It's taken many forms over the years and for myself, I do believe I am at a point of realization that blood or not, this relationship is no longer something I choose or can afford to invite into my life. And this would be for the reasons you mention-eg. I know that I am an honorable, kind, generous and loving soul. I've been told this most of my life. I have not necessarily taken it to heart, but I do know in my heart of hearts, it is true.

The series of dreams I described came on the heels of a vicious attack by my mother following the holidays and my own decision to remove her from my life once and for all. To me the dreams show the stages, not unlike you have described-the denial, the sense that I am good enough but she will not accept that and my longing for my brother and sister to end their same confusion and frustration and move on for their own benefit.

I want to thank you for this gift. In validating what I thought to be true, I am closer to the liberation that I know am being called to achieve. I would add that I don't feel compelled to do this in a way that retaliates against mother, although it is damned tempting. Just in a way that closes it for me and allows me to move on.

As for the chance you have taken in inviting dreams to interpret, I would guess that there has been tremendous validation to you. You are right on the money as my post and others have indicated. I share what I know is your gratitude for this gift.

I am not well versed in any of the areas of this forum. At the same time, I have believed them for many years. I hope that this has moved both of us forward in our journeys. I know it has me. EM me anytime you want to continue this discussion-it would be a pleasure and a privilege. And Bush remains an asshole. But the universe will have its justice. PS I am not a teacher but a sales (wo)man-which is simply a different version of teaching and learning:)

Peace, Kit

[hangemhigh]

55. Very cool-

I just checked your profile. I am from Oklahoma, too! Grew up in Shawnee-this connection was meant to be.

[Babette]

56. Here's one I had last night.....

I was a witness to the Bush Inauguration... There were long marble hallways filled with roses, people everywhere with jewels and fancy dresses. Lots of mirrors, chairs and paintings. I watched impassively. Fast forward four years. John Edwards was being sworn in as the new president. The halls were empty. There were no flowers. There were a few people in plain clothes. I asked why he didn't get flowers. Someone said the Bushes took all the country's wealth with them when they left. I remember after the swearing in John Edwards sat cross-legged on the floor. I ran out and found some daisies and roses in a run-down store. The flowers were wilted and rather old looking. It was all I could find. I gave them to John and said it was the best that could be found. I then pulled a large fruit out of my pocket and presented it to him. I told him it was a dragonfruit, and that he needed to be a dragon. We sat down and shared the fruit. I can even remember the taste of it! That's when I woke up.

[Behind the Aegis]

57. A sad vision, indeed

I feel this dream is pretty "straight-forward," in that it is an extension of the fears many of us here (at DU) have. You see the 'riches' of the current administration and know that our wealth will be depleted. This is shown by the inauguration of the next president (were you an original supporter of JE?). I do find it interesting that is roses AND daises that you find. Often, daisies represent hope. Hope is wilted, but it is still alive!! Then, you bring out the fruit...a rare fruit. But because of what you say, your dream self, sees it as something that can "transform" a person. You also partake of the fruit, indicating you will also need the strength of the dragon. Because you remember the taste, I think you are already relying on the strength of the dragon. You may be down, but I bet you can handle business when need be! :)

BTW...I had no idea dragon fruit was a real thing. I had to look it up on google! Therefore, if this is a fruit you often eat, or see out, it may have a different meaning. How do you feel when you eat it? That might be a more accurate description of what you are trying to pass along to JE.

Does this help?

[Babette]

58. Thanks, I figured it was pretty straight-forward too.

Except for the symbolism of the flowers. I was never really a John Edwards supporter, so I'm not sure why he was in the dream.

As for dragonfruit, I've never tasted a real one. I have seen it on fruit drink labels and checked it out online a long time ago. I've never seen a real one except for online pictures.

[demgrrrll]

59. I have a recurring dream about missing the lottery by one

number or losing a ticket or money or opportunities. I keep thinking about this dream and the dream seems so real that I can't get it out of my mind.
I have had several bad jobs in a row and now I am free from the terrible stresses that accompanied each job but I feel adrift and I wonder if I am missing something important. I did learn that I need to ask more questions before I accept a position. I could have avoided the last difficulty with a little more research. I also have a patent that is giving me difficulty with one little fly in the ointment so I am stuck there too. Just wondering about this dream because it has bothered me like no other.

[Behind the Aegis]

60. And the final number is....

Most of the time, I have to read and reread dreams here, before I start breaking them down. Yours jumped out at me! Much like the other poster (two posts above yours), this is straight-forward, but there is a slight difference, you know you are missing something. Continue to ask those questions, but I would suggest you go back and look at what you disliked about those jobs and WHAT led to the dislike! The "lesson" here may be...sometimes our greatest education, comes from our biggest mistakes. The other thing I "feel" is that you "dismiss" your bad senations...listen to your inner voice!!

That help? Is there more to this dream?

[demgrrrll]

61. Thanks for your response. It is true that I ignored my inner voice

on the last job interview. It is also true that these last three experiences have given me great strength so there was a positive aspect and a great educational experience. I appreciate your help. I need to pay attention to detail and I am going to do just that.

[Astarho]

62. Here's a strange on from last night

Here's a little background: There was a model I worked with about a year and a half ago, when she traveled through Arizona. I'm working on a novel and using one of the pictures I took of her for the cover (representing the main character). I've even sent her the first chapter of the book.


I dreamed that she was dead. It was like I had known for a while, but I could not make myself contact her family. There was something on the local news about her and they had another model who was a friend of hers talking about her, what a good person she was. I also felt bad because I told her I'd send her a few more chapters, but haven't yet.

Then at one point I saw her body and there was a hole in her head right between her right eye and her right temple. It was a semi-circle black hole maybe two inches long, but there was no blood or anything. I remembered that I had suspicions that she had been under some kind of mind control before.

Weird.

[Behind the Aegis]

66. Picture this!

Sorry I haven't posted sooner. I haven't felt very well and I have been very crabby. I didn't want that messing up your interpretation. I am still not at the top of my game, but let's see what I can come up with!

Let's hope this dream is not a premonition! I don't feel it is. This dream really has me kinda stumped, so I am gonna take my best shot!

The death could be that your novel has come to a standstill or may come to a standstill(since she was the cover model and in the dream you hadn't sent more chapters). The friend talking about her, might be that "little voice" telling you this novel is a good idea, if a little slow coming.

The mark on her head may be a sign of issues formulating ideas. You may feel as if you have no control over what is happening. However, this may also represent some type of "block" that needs to be removed.

I know that wasn't a very good job, but I feel this is more about your novel than your friend. It may not even really be the novel, but the process of writing it that is an issue.

Again, I apologize for the lateness and less-than-stellar interpretation. Does this help at all?

[tlcandie]

63. When I was young...

I dreamed of snakes being all under my feet, crawling up on chain link fences, etc. and talking to me.

That is all I remember. They were often.

Another dream:

I remember seeing tornadoes and mountains. I was in my car and driving very fast trying to beat or miss the terrible events that were happening. It was more than just multiple tornadoes, but I can't tell you what. I was trying to reach all of my friends or loved ones.

Then I came to a place where there was this huge thing that looked somewhat like a hamburger press/grill or something that was large enough for people to get into. Many were jumping in to it because there was a loud speaker with someone saying it was where they could find safety.

I looked at the people who had gone into it and their faces were all distorted with fear and pain at what they had done and I ran away in abject horror.

This dream happened probably 20 years ago or more and yet is still very vivid. I awoke from that dream very disturbed.

[Behind the Aegis]

67. A long time ago...

I haven't being feeling very well, so I apologize this is so late. I may still be a little "off," but I hope I can shed a little light on this dream.

Snakes can be interpreted in a number of ways, but I am feeling I should any of the traditional meanings. I feel these snakes were telling you secrets of the earth. Are you close to animals? Do you have psychic abilities? There is a Greek legend that says when a snake licks your ears clean, you can hear what the Earth and the gods are saying, which is usually unheard by mortal ears. That is the sense I feel with your dream.

The second dream could be broken down as well, in a traditional sense, but what popped in my head was..."You are always trying to stay one step of ahead of trouble. You have a "sixth" sense about bad things and try to 'out run' them! Your biggest concern, is not your safety, but those of your loved ones." I see this dream may represent you are the "counselor" of the family. Always trying to make sure they are safe, warning them of things to come (either thru visions or plain ol' common sense (which they may lack)).

The last line "I looked at the people who had gone into it and their faces were all distorted with fear and pain at what they had done and I ran away in abject horror" has me stymied! Perhaps there was something in the past that caused you to very concerned and you were "horrified" at the reasons the people gave you for doing what they did. I really am not sure.

So, does that clear up a 20yo mystery? Helpful or way off?

[WolverineDG]

64. Here's 2 from a couple of nights ago

I went to the doctor's office (or maybe hospital) for one thing, then was told I had the flu. I told the woman (in a white coat, could have been a nurse or doctor, also saw a male figure walking down a hallway but didn't interact with him) "I'm not sick, I don't have the flu." But she kept insisting that I had the same flu as everyone, I just didn't feel it because I only had it "times 4" when everyone else had it "times 6 or more." I got the impression that "times 6 or more" meant there were a lot of people who were very sick, like an epidemic. As she was describing this flu to me, when she said "congestion in the lungs," I felt like I had to cough, as though I really were congested. I got the impression that this is what made this "flu" so bad. She then started mixing up medicine for me to take, but it was like some sort of homeopathic-type stuff.

Then that dream ended & I was in my grandfather's house. I was with some other people, maybe those who lived there now, & I was looking for something to point out to them to prove my grandfather had lived there. He had planted geraniums & rosebushes, but I didn't see any in the yard. Then I noticed a large tree, at least 40 years old, & said to myself "he must have planted that, it's been here long enough." I felt better, like knowing part of him was still in that place. Now in real life, there is a tree still at that house, but it's not a shade tree like this one & it's in the front yard, not the back. Plus, my birthday was this week, so I'm wondering if that might have something to do with this dream?

Happy interpreting! :)
dg

[Behind the Aegis]

68. Paging Dr. Freud...kidding! :) BTW..happy belated Bday!

I haven't been feeling real well, so I apologize this has taken so long. I do have a strong impression for both your dreams, but like the last few I have done, this doesn't fall into the "symbol" group, but more of a "direct" group.

The first dream is saying, to me, that your health is "iffy" right now. Not really your physical health so much, more your emotional well-being. You are feeling "stopped up," perhaps unable to let something out (a need to cough). You, I feel, know what you need to do!!! The 'homeopathic' medicine is of your own doing! The numbers "4" and "6" are important (April '66?), but they are beyond my range. I don't see them as being the traditional meanings. There is something about those two numbers that are significant to you (I know that sounds very vague, and I am sorry for that). If I am wrong, here are the "traditional" meanings of those numbers and perhaps it will help.

The number 4: Four denotes stability, physical limitations, hard labor and earthly things, as in the four corners of the earth. It also stands for materialistic matters. You get things done.

The number 6: Six is indicative of cooperation, balance, tranquility, perfection, warmth, and love. Your mental, emotional, and spiritual states are in harmony. It is also indicative of domestic bliss.

The second dream seems to be saying that your grandfather is saying "hi" to you! As you remember him, he remembers you! I don't see much for this dream other than a happy memory of someone you love.

Was this any good for you? I know it was not too explanatory. I hope you had a great birthday!

[WolverineDG]

70. thanks! hope you're feeling better!

:)

dg

[Elidor]

65. Two most recent dreams

I was standing atop a pedastal about 8 feet high and 2 feet square. The pedastal was located in someone's house; there were a man and a woman. I was vaguely aware that I could fly, but I also had a tether cord attaching me to something. The man, seeing me, became unpleasant and began yelling. Rather than flying away, I floated down to the ground outside his home and ran away…

And just last night: I was the only passenger in a pilotless airplane hurtling through the air at great speed. There was no cockpit, just windows in the front of the plane. I was traveling at very great speed. I wasn't concerned about the lack of a pilot, the plane was flying perfectly level, but I don't like flying in general and was worried that I might crash. I decided that I'd just have to deal with that if it happened and then I faded out…

I don't really need an interpretation, but if you'd like to take a stab at it, feel free.

[Behind the Aegis]

69. Up in the air!

I have apologized to others here, so I do so for you. I haven't felt well, so I didn't want to tackle anything, especially for someone with such interesting views on dreams! :) It has to be perfect! :)

The first dream seems to be saying that you feel "above it all" in a situation that is not under your own terms, but someone else's. The man and woman represent the two sides to ourselves, the yin and yang, so to speak. Although you could "rise above" you are still "tethered" to the situation. The "masculine" energy is the aggressor in the situation. You feel threatened by it. You chose to run because it is a safer way and, seems, to have no way of allowing you to be "yanked" back into the situation. Perhaps this a personal disagreement you are having/recently had with a co-worker/neighbor.

The plane (I don't care for flying in planes either!) dream seems to say that you feel you are at the mercy of another, someone not seen. You are uncomfortable in the air and no pilot suggests that you feel you are "zipping" through a situation and have little control...BUT...the plane is level and you are resigned to "deal with it." So, I feel, although the situation may be unpleasant, you are not that afraid of it, nor do you fear where it will lead you.

Vague, but does it make sense? I didn't feel the need to use traditional translations for these dreams (or the last few). Was this of any use?

[Elidor]

72. I must confess

These dreams are related to my ongoing quest for astral projection. They are actually pretty tame compared to some other recent dreams.

But it's obvious from this thread that you have an uncanny ability to discern personal characteristics from dreams. I have decided that there is value in 3rd party interpretations after all, simply because you are so good at it. I look forward to more interpretations from you. You're very good.

[Behind the Aegis]

73. my confession

I am not sure why I held back, but I thought you would think I was a total loon. I was hit with the "silver cord" when I read your line about the tether. The "silver cord" is used to describe the astral line that keeps us attached to our self. I learned from this to just say what I feel, even if I think it may cause someone to think I a little nuts. :) I know this sounds like psychics that predict something "after the fact," but it was what I was thinking. LOL.

Thanks for the affirmation! I am sure you can tell, I like and need that.

[Elidor]

74. That's what struck me as well

That whole business about the tether made no sense during the dream itself, but afterward I was like, wow. I'll have to relate the latest dream sometime in the next day or two–it blew my mind.

[sans qualia]

71. Weird nightmare

I had this nightmare twice in one night a few weeks ago, and never before or since.

I dreamed that I woke up in my bed at my mom's house. I was lying on my back, and I couldn't move. Just breathing required tremendous effort. Somehow I managed to look down at my right arm, and it was slightly translucent and glowing bright green. I tried to move it without success, but every time I tried, I could see lights through the window, also to my right. I realized that by trying to move my right arm, I was making all the electrical thingies in that direction turn on momentarily, as though I were sending out invisible lightning bolts that sent energy running through everything they touched. My room stayed dark, though.

I was very scared. I felt certain that whatever had happened to me was caused by some terrible disaster, and that very soon I would die.

[Behind the Aegis]

76. Very unusual!!!

You know the first thing that popped in my head was "alien abduction!" It sounds like a few I have heard before. I have always wondered about them...anyway...here's what I see from your dream.

You find yourself in a familiar situation (bed at your mom's house), but you are not acting on (or feel you can't act on) what you already know (can't move, trouble breathing). Basic things are difficult to accomplish in this situation (difficulty breathing). Your glowing arm may represent an extension of yourself (or abilities) is unfamiliar to you, but is "in the spotlight." Your 'sending out of electricity' could be you sending out your intentions/desires and they are having a limited effect, but still do not "shine light on" the situation (the room staying dark). I feel the lights from outside may be another person(s) trying to "shed light" on the situation. You may be feeling dread and are scared because you feel no control at all (or, possibly, that you are being controlled).

My 'feelings' are that you may have experienced a really bad something (perhaps a death of a loved one). You have "been here before" and still feel helpless and frightened. I also sense their is something you are missing in the dream itself. Should you have this dream again, try to go "lucid." This means, say to yourself "I am dreaming." Then look for other signs, I feel the answer is there. Do not be afraid...I know, easier said than done, so try not to be AS afraid.

Did this help? Let me know. You can PM too. When you have this dream again, let me know.

[sans qualia]

78. Interesting

Um, sorry it took so long for me to respond. I read your response and then kinda forgot about the thread...

Anyway. At the time I had this dream, I was in the hospital following a suicide attempt. I was on precautions almost the whole time - I couldn't even have shoelaces. It didn't help that I was stuck in a unit full of people with problems completely different from mine. That could certainly account for imagery suggestive of frustration and powerlessness, but given the broader state of my life, I think it goes deeper.

I wonder if the lights outside the window could mean that other people know or perceive something about me (or "an extension of self") that I'm, um, "in the dark" about.

Thanks for your analysis. I'll definitely tell you if I have this dream again.

[Elidor]

75. Check out the latest post on my 'new theory of dreams' thread

It's a dream that blew my mind. You might find it interesting.

[lukasahero]

77. Actually, I've been looking for someone to tell

I sure hope no one else reads this because they'll think I'm a freak but since you asked... Lately I've been having a recurring dream that leaves me upset when I wake up.

The briefest version: In it I have feelings for someone (I don't know this person IRL and it changes from dream to dream) and we end up geting married. Then somehow we end up at "home" and things start to happen as married things do. But all of a sudden I feel enormously trapped because I realize in the dream that the only person I want to be with is the man who is, in real life, my husband and of course, in the dream I can't be. At that point I wake up and feel horribly alone all day.

I don't know if this is the most difficult dream to interpret but I'd like to know your thoughts anyway. PM me if you think it's too personal.

[hippiegranny]

79. I had a very strange dream last night,

actually, it was this morning. I dreamt that my partner and I were part of a touring group in Africa, and that Bush was also part of the entourage. We were all in a ramshackle building waiting for a boxing match to begin, when I noticed two snakes slithering in. One was a cobra because it had it's throat fanned out and had it's head up in the air as it moved. The other was a small green snake.

Anyway, the snakes both went into a lavatory that was behind our seats. I told my partner not to use that one if she had to go. Shortly afterward I realized I had to go so I went to a different lavatory at another location in the building. While in line there, Bush came up and tried to push his way to the front. I body blocked him (I'm 5' tall!) and he stood beside me for a moment. He tried to engage me in conversation, but I couldn't catch what he said. So I asked him to repeat it, and he did. I still couldn't hear him, so I asked again. That is when he got disgusted with me, tossed his head with that trademark smirk on his face and pushed right past me into the rest room.

I woke up thinking how interesting it was that I had a dream about two things I abhor the most - snakes and that arrogant asshole, Bush. And boxing in Africa - wtf was that all about? Simply odd!

[purduejake]

80. This dream made me feel lonely for the first time in about 2 years...

This dream has literally changed something in me. I'm 23 and never even had the desire to date or be with anybody until I was 20 years old (when I finally figured out the problem -- I didn't like girls and never before allowed myself to think otherwise -- so I was just really not interested.)

Anyway, it's been just over 2 years since I've dated somebody and 2 years since a bad car accident where I was injured and lost interest in finding a partner all-together. I've been too busy taking care of myself and really haven't had the emotional capacity or stability to handle anything more than a friend or dating for a few weeks before loosing interest because I could not put myself in a position where I could be hurt if things went bad.

A couple of nights ago, I dreamed that I returned to college (at some different university) and found 2 random roommates to share university housing with - one who seemed familiar (but I really didn't know) and one who I've never seen before. The one I never saw before happened to be gay and I was instantly in love. We didn't even talk in the dream -- I saw him only one time when he was sitting at the kitchen table with my other roommate and glanced over toward me. He had dark hair, tan complexion, and piercing blue eyes. He was also a tennis player for the university -- I don't know any tennis players other than the girl I went to high school prom with. I instantly accepted that we'd fall in love and spend our lives together, which is NOT like me because I've never thought I'd spend my entire life with anybody... much less meet somebody so soon.

I have no idea what the dream meant -- other than perhaps the obvious message that I am at a point in my recovery where I re-gained part of my humanity and desire to share my life with somebody. Usually I dismiss my dreams and forget about them, but this one was very vivid. After about 2 years of being single and indifferent about it, I felt lonely for the first time when I was laying in bed the next night and have since felt that way since. I went out to Chicago this weekend and half-expected to meet this person, but didn't. I wasn't disappointed though, and still feel as if nobody will ever be able to fill my need. What do you think? Thanks for your interest in our dreams and helping out! =)

[sojourner]

81. not sure if you're still around but here's mine

Actually it's two dreams...

My daughter is parking a car...a pale yellow(?) 1958 T-Bird in mint condition, parallel parking on a street. Don't know the town though it looks a little like a side street near museum.

Two more T-Birds, same year, one pale blue and one pale (mint) green, are parked there. Katie pulls in and parks between the two cars. For some reason there's a soda can in front of her car, so as she parks she makes sure to avoid running over it. Soda can ends up just in front of the car.

Suddenly another T-Bird, this one pale lavender, pulls in and parks between her and the blue one in front. Only it didn't seem there was room for it - still it does fit and there they are all lined up. Blue, lavender, yellow and green. Guy in the lavender car is African-American, smiling. Daughter and I are white. No other people in the dream.

_________

Now I'm standing in a kitchen, cooking. There are three large gunny-sack bags full of dried pinto beans standing on the floor nearby. They are tall enough they almost reach the counter top. A stack of onions, and several large, lovely heads of garlic are on the counter. Something about the beans, onions and garlic is important. Gladness about having enough to do for a while.

My mother is there, also, and doesn't seem to be feeling well. After noticing her complaining mildly (which for my mom is an indication that something's REALLY wrong), I ask her to come over so I can feel her forehead. My hands have dough or something on them but I still reach up and place my palm flat against her forehead.

I feel her skin is clammy, no "fever" is evident yet I can tell by the feeling of her skin that she does have a fever and is ill. I start channeling healing energy (I'm a Reiki Master/Practitioner) at the same time, and I am giving her instructions on what to do next - but I don't know what I said, really, except to stop her from protesting and denying the illness.

[Dover]

82. Pretty interesting........

The juxtaposition of the people (black and white) and the colorful vintage cars is so interesting. Also interesting that blue and yellow make green....though I'm not sure where the lavender comes in. Sort of the wild card color. You haven't mentioned how you were feeling about any of these events. That's often a helpful clue.

Some questions:

What does the date 1958 mean to you? Did something of significance happen then?

What kind of museum was nearby?

Are either you or your daughter artists?

[sojourner]

83. We're artistic, but not artists per se -

I do create wedding cakes, and enjoy catering special events. Was an art major in college first time around (1970).

1958 is the same model year of the T-Bird that was my gift from folks on graduating HS and leaving for college (1970). It was candy-apple red. Totalled in 1971 when a bob-tailing truck-tractor took out the front end. Hated losing that car! In 1958 I turned 6. Started school?

My daughter Katie is youngest daughter (I have 3 daughters aged 33, 31, and 23; 2 sons, aged 29 and 21). Katie and I are house-mates. She is named after my nick-name - dad called me "Kate" - no one else except one other good friend ever did.

The museum is the art museum here in state capitol, where jazz concerts are a regular event. Sponsored by local eateries, wineries, breweries...and local NPR radio station.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

84. I dreamed my husband and I were riding in a small boat across

deep and wild waters, in a raging sea. It was just the two of us. We were both standing in the boat, clinging to the mast as the boat took the waves, pitching high over each wave and crashing down on its other side in a great spray of water and cocophany of sound. We took on water each time we crested another wave. It was dark. As we topped each wave, we laughed together, as if we were riding an amusement park ride. In the distance was a shore, with a stone landing. The stone landing looked cold, murkey, slippery, muddy, seemed like it might have snakes. When we arrived at the landing, it would be steep to climb from up from the boat. Beyond the stone landing a grey stone wall. In the wall a big grey stone door, slightly ajar. Beyond the door we know not what, but, strong light shining from within.