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Mon Aug-14-06 04:51 AM
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New Matthew message - August 13, 2006 |
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Edited on Mon Aug-14-06 05:46 AM by I Have A Dream
http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=60&z=2There's also a special message from July 18, 2005, in reference to NESARA, which he references in the new message so has reposted for our perusal: http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=61&z=2
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Mon Aug-14-06 06:01 AM
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I can only say that - that was interesting. :)
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Mon Aug-14-06 07:32 AM
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2. Wow, did he ever talk about the law of attraction before? |
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Very interesting, thanks for the heads up.
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Mon Aug-14-06 08:59 AM
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3. Yes, very interesting. |
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It's nice to know that my take on what happened this past week was the same as his (or the "others'") viewpoint.
I don't understand, though, his insistence that the global climate change is really nothing to worry about. There must be something else planned and I can't see it yet.
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Tue Aug-15-06 11:12 AM
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8. I KNEW that "terra" threat was bogus |
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Nice to hear Matthew confirm.
As for the global warming trend, he talked about this in a previous message (fairly recent one)--that it's not bad--we're just balancing out so it will be temperate all over the globe, and that will be a good thing. But it is tough to accept that some species will die out, some land masses will change, and people will also die. It's a "higher thought" that can be difficult to wrap our minds around.
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Tue Aug-15-06 05:13 AM
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4. Interesting: Looks like certain people may be going back to |
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very primitive man state or even back to an amoeba!
Matthew said: (I have added the bold emphasis)
"Please take comfort in knowing that justice will be done both in heaven and on Earth to all souls who are suffering and all those who are causing it. Just as it is sad for us to see the terrible suffering and grieving, it is sad to see those dark souls dooming themselves to their next experiencing as little more than primitive matter, the point at which they must start their inexorably slow return to any degree of reasoning ability so that no trace of inhumane proclivity is carried forward. We are inseparable souls in the Oneness of all, and even though we will rejoice when their reign of terror is over, there can be no joy in knowing how justice will serve them, however rightfully and solely by the energy of their lifetime choices."
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Tue Aug-15-06 06:13 AM
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5. "there can be no joy in knowing how justice will serve them" |
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This reminds me of the scenes in "Ghost" when Patrick Swayze is watching as the little black goblins take the bad guys away. I felt a great sadness over those parts and wondered how bad one would have to be to be taken down to primordial matter and started over.
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Tue Aug-15-06 11:07 AM
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I think we are given every chance in the world to redeem ourselves, many times over. But if in the end we don't change for the better, I guess coming back as something less that human may be all that's left.
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Tue Aug-15-06 05:11 PM
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10. I think in Newton's book, there was discussion |
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about the need to completely make over some soul energy that was badly corrupted. There is a special unit that handles this job. Count me out for that assignment :(
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Tue Aug-15-06 11:10 AM
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7. Aren't the Hindu reincarnation beliefs along this line? That |
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you will come back as a lesser animal if you lived a life of such dissipation or evil that you will come back as a despised beast of some sort like a cockroach or other disgusting being.
I envision Cheney coming back as a toad, zapping bugs all day.
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Tue Aug-15-06 05:07 PM
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Yes some believe in transmigration, that is, humans would have to incarnate in animal bodies as part of their karma. More modern thinking is that this does not happen, one you have passed thru the animal kingdom you are done with it forever. I suppose however there is an exception to every rule. Going back to a very primitive animal form might be the only way to rehabilitate some humans. :(
But a human can be sent back to a very primitive human state. I am aware of one person who lead a very bad life here in the US, hurt many people. That person recently incarnated as a child in a remote Tibetan village, with limited intellectual functioning, and impoverished. Can only focus on living through each day, not able to get into any trouble or hurt any one.
Also if there is a fluidity of time, and it is not linear like we humans think it is, then a person could go back to prehistoric times. Come back as a Neanderthal, being chased by tigers and having to actually work to eat. No trust funds and wealthy family to help you out.
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Tue Aug-15-06 08:18 PM
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11. how about as a quail, poor things |
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raised in pens for one day of shooting for pleasure, they are probably gathered up and discarded since they are full of pellets.
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Tue Aug-15-06 08:26 PM
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He already is methaphorically something that slithers in the dirt. He could end up as dinner for a quail. What a nice karmic touch.
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Tue Aug-15-06 08:35 PM
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13. God does have a sense of humor |
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One time I had searched for my glasses for 2 hours, and I prayed, God, please help me to find my glasses, they immediately fell and hit me on the top of my head, I had put them at the top of my bookcase and my frantic searching on the lower shelves caused them to take a trip to the top of my head. I could almost hear heaven laughing.
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Tue Aug-15-06 08:47 PM
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14. We have quail running through our property seasonally. |
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I love to see them when they have little chicks. It's so cute. Yet, they still have a tough life with the natural predators around. Fortunately, no shooting of game is allowed in the part of the county I live in, but still their lives are really precarious. I can't see penning them up and shooting them for fun. At least the predators in my back yard (usually hawks) have to work for their supper and the quail have a fighting chance (except for the little chicks unfortunately that can't escape and that mama and daddy can't protect no matter how hard they try. I cry a lot about it.)
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Tue Aug-15-06 09:01 PM
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15. Cleita, I had a parrot as a pet, birds are wonderful |
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Get the movie the Wild Parrots of Telegraph Hill, it's great.
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Tue Aug-15-06 09:24 PM
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16. Yes, that *was* a great movie. |
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Wed Aug-16-06 04:24 PM
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20. My bird really thought that humans were inferior to birds |
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I brought a Christmas tree in, and boy did he flip out, birds live in trees, there are no trees in the nest. (I had to interpret his squawks and wing flipping)
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Fri Aug-18-06 04:42 AM
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28. LOL! Maybe your bird's right! n/t |
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Fri Aug-18-06 04:02 PM
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44. Well, they can fly on their own |
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Edited on Fri Aug-18-06 04:03 PM by MissWaverly
and many of them fly south for the winter.
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Fri Aug-18-06 04:14 PM
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45. Well, you convinced me, but it doesn't take much for me... |
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given my feelings about many humans right now. Silly, silly humans. :eyes:
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Fri Aug-18-06 04:21 PM
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they protect other birds; when I would make fried chicken, I would get royally squawked at, it was like he considered me a cannibal or something. How could you do that to another bird? He would smell the fried chicken from the kitchen and go berserk! Some birds are natural predators but they kill to eat not for sport.
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Wed Aug-16-06 02:16 AM
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17. This part is what I'm so afraid of: The mid-term elections |
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"S: What must good people do to insure that this midterm election will be conducted with honesty and integrity?
MATTHEW: At this point, you can only focus your thoughts on the character of government you want, feel thankful for this collection of fair, wise and just leaders as if they already ARE the government, and send light to all of Earth. Even if the electronic voting machines were not specifically designed for tampering—they are, of course—the people who count the votes are Illuminati-controlled. They release whatever figures they want, thereby determining the winners, so this upcoming election will be devoid of honesty and integrity. But the farce of two major parties to choose from—most members of both are either Illuminati themselves or under that dark control—will end along with everything else that has dark underpinnings, so please do not be discouraged. Cast your vote with the vision of all countries governed by people who represent the highest in human nature."
But, like he says, we still need to visualize our country (all countries) being governed by people who represent the highest in human nature.
Hmmm. Can anyone say "Al Gore"?
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Wed Aug-16-06 07:35 AM
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18. Maybe this is what has to happen. |
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Americans do not seem to get it, maybe the electoral fraud and deception has to be so blatant that a 10 yr old could see it.
Something so outrageous in the elections that it must be noticed?
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Wed Aug-16-06 03:09 PM
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19. Maybe you're right about that. It's REALLY too bad, however, |
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that the world will have to continue to suffer the effects of republican regime take-over of the U.S. government.
Well, now that I think about it, the Dems haven't done such a great job of being an opposition party. Maybe what Matthew says about them all being influenced/controlled by illuminati is true. It sure has seemed like dark days have prevailed in this formerly great country.
Last night, after I read the Matthew entry, I tried to do as he suggested, and envision the entire cabal being exposed, and great leaders taking over in their place, all around the globe. I visualized the people rising up and calling the mess for what it was, and correcting the dark, evil policies of government leaders. What a good vision that is, too!
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Wed Aug-16-06 05:19 PM
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21. Yes sad that it has to get so bad before it gets better. |
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But throughout history that is the way it has been. Takes a lot for people to think beyond their cultural norms and mores.
And yes you have a lovely vision there, let's all keep working on it! :))
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Thu Aug-17-06 09:08 PM
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right now it seems as though, everyone has so many problems of their own to worry about, they seem to have very little time to care about worldly matters. They're just trying to make ends meet, while doing the best for their family.
My fear is that it will get worse. My hope is it will finally get their attention.
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Fri Aug-18-06 06:07 AM
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29. I think it will get worse before it gets better. |
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The lessons have not yet sunk in.
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Fri Aug-18-06 09:01 AM
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I, too, was disappointed when I read that part of Matthew's message--I was hoping that he'd say everything would finally come out all right for the next election--no tampering (or it would be found out and stopped) and the correct people would be voted into office. Looks like that won't be the case.
But after my initial disappointment, my next reaction was "this has to happen." You're right--people haven't learned yet. Most Americans still think their government would NEVER tamper with election results...or lie to them about WMDs...or cover up anything about September 11...Oh dear if I continue I'll just get massively depressed. So yes, they need more of a wakeup call.
I just send white light to folks still in denial, so they will open their eyes.
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Fri Aug-18-06 10:59 AM
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35. It is now karma time. Many supporters of Bush suffering the most: |
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•Military •Media •Joe Six pack (gas prices and factory job loss) •Repug colleagues and friends (those seeking election not doing well if they are close to Bush) •Delay, Limbaugh, Enron, many of the repug crooks in trouble •Laura Bush and Condi suffering as well. •Rove and Cheney face one investigation after another.
You can see karma in action, right before your eyes. Be patient, let it all unfold. Fascinating and tragic at the same time.
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Fri Aug-18-06 11:29 AM
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But so hard to be patient! It breaks my heart to see how much pain everyone has to go through to learn the lesson. But that's their choice...Note: I say "they" because those of us who know what's going on and have known the entire time have a different point of view--even though we also made a choice--to be here at this time to help everyone cope. Are we martyrs or just nuts? :)
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Fri Aug-18-06 12:19 PM
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41. Supposed to be about 5 or 6 more years. 2012 it begins |
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Fri Aug-18-06 11:05 AM
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36. I'm also hoping that those of us who have had our eyes... |
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Edited on Fri Aug-18-06 11:18 AM by I Have A Dream
open the entire time will be treated gently by the Universe since we don't need to learn this particular lesson. Things might get ugly. :(
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Fri Aug-18-06 11:26 AM
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38. Like Matthew said in a previous message |
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The blind followers, once they realize they've been duped, will be mighty angry and could get violent. I think he was talking about the blind followers of traditional religions, but I do believe that applies to the members of the Cult of Bush.
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Fri Aug-18-06 12:17 PM
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40. I think it will get worse, and possibly ugly. |
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Edited on Fri Aug-18-06 12:18 PM by cassiepriam
As many begin to see what we have seen all along. Think about how angry we have been. The whole country might get that angry.
And yes I hope our karma will be gentle, we have learned the lesson.
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Fri Aug-18-06 12:59 PM
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42. Thanks for that, Cassie |
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Although the Universe tries continually to reassure us of this fact, it's just so hard to imagine how so much will become so crazy and personally we'll maneuver around just fine.
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Fri Aug-18-06 01:38 PM
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43. I think we will be fine. |
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Edited on Fri Aug-18-06 01:59 PM by cassiepriam
I am not saying we will be immune from all discomfort, but we are not in the karma groups I mentioned, which are getting hit hard right now.
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Fri Aug-18-06 12:43 AM
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And I will continue to say it....and work for it....and send light to it...and vizualize it...
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Thu Aug-17-06 08:01 PM
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22. Umm..I just became a "convert"! |
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I have not read these messages before. I went to the site and read the story; and then the message. He seems to be right on the money without a lot of extranous and uneccesarry embellishments that many that "channel" seem to have. Thanks so much for pointing me to this! I really want to read the books.
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Thu Aug-17-06 09:24 PM
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24. Did you see the archive of all of his past messages? I spent... |
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quite a bit of time reading them all earlier this summer. There's some really interesting information in the older messages.
A couple of months or so ago, his site was hacked and the site was down for a day or so. (I don't think that it was the first time that this happened.) It appears that he was getting too close to the truth for somebody's liking.
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Thu Aug-17-06 09:47 PM
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25. I have one question.. |
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I'd like your thoughts on. I've spent times in my life thinking the Illuminati were real; then times thinking they were not. Do you have an opinion; and where is some good info (read:serious) on this? Everything else he says rings so true for me; that I am thinking there must be more to this than I thought. Opinion?
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Fri Aug-18-06 04:40 AM
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27. Personally, I think that the Illuminati are real. Now, there are... |
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two schools of thought on them. The one says that they are just regular humans who have controlled the world for centuries and the other says that they are reptilian creatures that are able to look like humans. I think that they are at least the former. I couldn't even begin to claim that I know whether they are the latter. However, they certainly have the ability to act reptilian even if they are just humans.
Sorry, I don't have any really good information on this subject, lildreamer. Maybe someone else does.
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Fri Aug-18-06 06:31 AM
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30. I just got done reading the first book: Matthew, Tell Me About Heaven |
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It is very interesting. I liked the part where he discusses the management structure of heaven, and the employment/occupational functioning.
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Fri Aug-18-06 06:49 AM
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31. I hadn't really thought of getting any of his books before, but... |
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this sounds really interesting. Just seeing the words "management strcture" and "employment/occupational" in reference to heaven made me laugh. I think that I'll check it out. Thanks for the recommendation, cassie.
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Fri Aug-18-06 06:56 AM
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32. It is funny to read. Yes heaven highly organized and structured. |
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Fascinating. Might be a good group book read.
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Fri Aug-18-06 07:41 AM
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33. We'll definitely have to keep that in mind. We'll have... |
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to bring up the subject soon.
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I am gonna see if I can get the money together to get the whole set--that last book looks fascinating from a Law Of Attraction point of view; and I'm always into the afterlife books. It's only $60 for all four (five?) and they are at least $20 to $28 apiece. If ppl have a hard time affording; maybe we could have a small mail circle and mail it to each other as we finish? It only takes me a few days to finish one book...
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Sat Aug-19-06 05:43 AM
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48. Amazon sells this book for only $8 |
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I do not know how much it is on the Matthew website.
The idea of a mail group is a good one. Of course during a book read people are usually going back to the book to read things they missed, and or to make points during the discussion. And I cannot remember anything so I need the book in front of me!
I am also wondering if Amazon has discount rates for r book clubs. Certainly we would qualify, this would be our second book read. I can check into it. (All my spare money goes into ordering books from Amazon, they should give me a permanent discount!)
I will see what I can do....
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Sat Aug-19-06 09:37 AM
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Just ordered three of his books from Amazon.
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Sat Aug-19-06 04:36 PM
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50. Ok..meanwhile I will see if my local used store |
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has any. Maybe just for giggles I'll check B&N; and ebay.
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Sun Aug-20-06 05:53 AM
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51. yes, good idea. I would be curious what prices you find, nt |
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Sun Aug-20-06 09:00 AM
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I just ordered the, "Matthew, Tell Me About Heaven" book. The comments on the book were few, but those who commented, found it to be wonderful and an insightfull book. Can't wait to read it.
Note: I'm so glad to see Matthew's message get so many comments this time. I go to his sight everyday anticipating his next message. I find great hope in them.
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Sun Aug-20-06 05:57 AM
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52. Dream looks like a book read has just formed. |
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Guess the time is right for it?
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Sun Aug-20-06 10:00 AM
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54. I was thinkiing that too and was thinking that I should PM you. |
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Sun Aug-20-06 08:07 PM
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55. Thanks, Dream. Uplifting, as always. Especially focusing on what you wan |
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t and ignoring the lies that come down from those currently in power. "What we focus on, we become." Not sure who originally said that. Have a donut. :donut: :donut: :hi:
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