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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:56 AM
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Malignant Egophrenia -- BEST psychological profile of Bush yet
Lengthy, but SO worth reading, every word:

THE MADNESS OF GEORGE W. BUSH: A REFLECTION OF OUR COLLECTIVE PSYCHOSIS by Paul Levy
http://www.awakeninthedream.com/georgew.html

To give credit where credit is due, I think I found this in Editorials.
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demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:19 PM
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1. Brilliant analysis. Very impressive. eom.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:58 PM
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2. wow I read that out loud to DH
powerful stuff indeed

spiritual activism works for me LOL
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:34 AM
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3. Just 2 responses so far?
Well, I guess that's better than none, or just one. Thanks to the 2 of you.
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 01:42 AM
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4. I want to read it
But I'll have to get to it tomorrow. We're having ice storms here in PA and the power and cable service have been sporadic. :)
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:01 AM
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5. Ok I'll bite Eloriel. Article is heavy duty. I like the simple definition
of the simpleton.

Sociopath and Psycopath.

Sociopath in the extreme.

_____________

Antisocial Personality, Sociopathy, and Psychopathy

Dr. Hare's Checklist



6. LACK OF REMORSE OR GUILT -- a lack of feelings or concern for the losses, pain, and suffering of victims; a tendency to be unconcerned, dispassionate, coldhearted, and unempathic. This item is usually demonstrated by a disdain for one's victims.


5. CONNING AND MANIPULATIVENESS- the use of deceit and deception to cheat, con, or defraud others for personal gain; distinguished from Item #4 in the degree to which exploitation and callous ruthlessness is present, as reflected in a lack of concern for the feelings and suffering of one's victims.


7. SHALLOW AFFECT -- emotional poverty or a limited range or depth of feelings; interpersonal coldness in spite of signs of open gregariousness.


8. CALLOUSNESS and LACK OF EMPATHY -- a lack of feelings toward people in general; cold, contemptuous, inconsiderate, and tactless.


10. POOR BEHAVIORAL CONTROLS -- expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper; acting hastily.

16. FAILURE TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR OWN ACTIONS -- a failure to accept responsibility for one's actions reflected in low conscientiousness, an absence of dutifulness, antagonistic manipulation, denial of responsibility, and an effort to manipulate others through this denial.


15. IRRESPONSIBILITY -- repeated failure to fulfill or honor obligations and commitments; such as not paying bills, defaulting on loans, performing sloppy work, being absent or late to work, failing to honor contractual agreements


9. PARASITIC LIFESTYLE -- an intentional, manipulative, selfish, and exploitative financial dependence on others as reflected in a lack of motivation, low self-discipline, and inability to begin or complete responsibilities.


1. GLIB and SUPERFICIAL CHARM -- the tendency to be smooth, engaging, charming, slick, and verbally facile. Psychopathic charm is not in the least shy, self-conscious, or afraid to say anything. A psychopath never gets tongue-tied. They have freed themselves from the social conventions about taking turns in talking, for example.


4. PATHOLOGICAL LYING -- can be moderate or high; in moderate form, they will be shrewd, crafty, cunning, sly, and clever; in extreme form, they will be deceptive, deceitful, underhanded, unscrupulous, manipulative, and dishonest.


13. LACK OF REALISTIC, LONG-TERM GOALS -- an inability or persistent failure to develop and execute long-term plans and goals; a nomadic existence, aimless, lacking direction in life.


20. CRIMINAL VERSATILITY -- a diversity of types of criminal offenses, regardless if the person has been arrested or convicted for them; taking great pride at getting away with crimes.

2. GRANDIOSE SELF-WORTH -- a grossly inflated view of one's abilities and self-worth, self-assured, opinionated, cocky, a braggart. Psychopaths are arrogant people who believe they are superior human beings.

3.NEED FOR STIMULATION or PRONENESS TO BOREDOM -- an excessive need for novel, thrilling, and exciting stimulation; taking chances and doing things that are risky. Psychopaths often have a low self-discipline in carrying tasks through to completion because they get bored easily. They fail to work at the same job for any length of time, for example, or to finish tasks that they consider dull or routine.


11. PROMISCUOUS SEXUAL BEHAVIOR -- a variety of brief, superficial relations, numerous affairs, and an indiscriminate selection of sexual partners; the maintenance of several relationships at the same time; a history of attempts to sexually coerce others into sexual activity or taking great pride at discussing sexual exploits or conquests.

12. EARLY BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS -- a variety of behaviors prior to age 13, including lying, theft, cheating, vandalism, bullying, sexual activity, fire-setting, glue-sniffing, alcohol use, and running away from home.


14. IMPULSIVITY -- the occurrence of behaviors that are unpremeditated and lack reflection or planning; inability to resist temptation, frustrations, and urges; a lack of deliberation without considering the consequences; foolhardy, rash, unpredictable, erratic, and reckless.
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17. MANY SHORT-TERM RELATIONSHIPS -- a lack of commitment to a long-term relationship reflected in inconsistent, undependable, and unreliable commitments in life, including marital.

18. JUVENILE DELINQUENCY -- behavior problems between the ages of 13-18; mostly behaviors that are crimes or clearly involve aspects of antagonism, exploitation, aggression, manipulation, or a callous, ruthless tough-mindedness.

19. REVOCATION OF CONDITION RELEASE -- a revocation of probation or other conditional release due to technical violations, such as carelessness, low deliberation, or failing to appear.


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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 09:47 AM
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6. what really struck me was the explanation of the followers
I understand Bush, he's an untreated alcoholic and I have lots of experience with people like that (glad I got treatment for my alcoholism). his actions and attitude are familiar to me from watching the rooms of recovery and who gets better thru their willingness to confront the shadow and watching those who don't

the explanation of his followers/supporters was spot on though. i have yet to meet a bush supporter who wasn't driven by fear on some level
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 01:31 PM
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7. OK: finished it.
I've read parts of this on another news group. But I read a condensed version, so I didn't realize there was more. There was more! How on earth do you pack so much dysfunction into one person.

Man, a group of psychiatrists could have a convention, just on Bush! I'm going to comment on his statement that Bush is OUR state of affairs, our illness. He represents the general state of affairs with the American People. In other words, he's just like us.

I do NOT believe Bush is our representative. I know, I know, take a look around you at Joe Six-Pack. Doesn't he seem just like Bush? See how he pastes a Bush/Cheney sticker on the back of his jacked-up truck. Joe is oblivious to what's really happening in the world, done in our name, as he smokes his cigarette and squeezes the beer can a little harder.

I think the people who support Bush are a much smaller group than most people realize. There are Bush's hard-core supporters, and then there's the vast majority of Americans who vaguely support him. They are more or less on auto-pilot. They support him "just because", but if they knew what was really going on in the White House and the mischief we are really up to, they might think again.

Of course, when they finally realize Bush is about to drive us over a cliff, they'll change their minds pretty quick. Bush and his supporters are simply masters of deception. Their hold onto power is a tenous one, in fact. They had to cheat their way to victory. I personally believe that Democrats stood up in record numbers on Nov. 2nd, demanding a change. I believe we're in the majority.

Bush is not my representative. I will do anything I can do distance myself from him & his policies. I just hope the rest of the world can have a little oversight. The day might come, and not too far off, when we might be in the same situation as SE Asia: needing help. They might think twice.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 01:42 PM
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8. Agreed Cliss. The sociopath does not represent me or any of my
thinking or way of life.

He represents the percentage of Americans who thrive on greed, excess,
hate, revenge, and violence. He also represents people who feel powerless (like the fundamentalists) and he represents people who feel powerless and so love his John Wayne bravado - shoot em up - smoke em out talk as if it gives them power...and so they have given a psychopath power and let him loose on the world.

He ain't my shadow - and I resent those who use the big generalization that he is the shadow of Americans.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 06:56 PM
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9. Pallas, that is what I was thinking
Particularly after reading the Suskind article "Without a Doubt" I recognized the rationale of his followers in this analysis. It doesn't matter in the least what he does and how antithetical those actions are to Christian tenets, what truly matters is that we on the left are horrified by him. As long as that is so, they will follow him no matter what he does and how many it harms.

The only time I disagreed with the analysis in this amazing article is that it is said he is "indifferent" to suffering. I actually believe he thrives on it. When the topic of conversation is the horror and heartache of others, he lights up and becomes much more articulate than he is on any other occasion. It is sickening but true.

thanks for posting.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 07:27 PM
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10. Yes Cliss. Have you noticed his humor? cruel - when he says
vicious or mean things...he laughs with a twist in his mouth as
if it's great humor.

A nasty sick person - but a sickness I have no empathy for.

As one of the doctors who wrote the symptoms of sociopathy and psychopathy said: If you are involved with one of these people, stop the madness - run!

Where do we go?

Look what these fools in America have done to the world.

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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:18 PM
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11. Sorry Mandate - I was answering you - yes he lights up at
horror and suffering - of others.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:48 PM
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12. He actually does this?
I've read this many times here on the DU: people have mentioned that Bush lights up, his eyes glitter, his stuttering stops and he becomes animated whenever the subject is on death and destruction.

I myself have no way of knowing this, since I got rid of my TV when Bush started showing up WAY too often on it. Gone. No regrets.

NOW, if anyone has any lingering doubts about this man.....who he really is. What he stands for. Got it?

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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:47 PM
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13. I think you missed the part about the Shadow
Edited on Sun Jan-09-05 10:47 PM by Eloriel
or perhaps don't understand that concept very well.

This is a great line: Man, a group of psychiatrists could have a convention, just on Bush!
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 11:15 AM
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14. Thanks Eloriel - Jung says of the shadow
" there are parts to our personality which we do not recognise, parts which are unconscious. These could be raw desires and emotions or thoughts and experiences which we are too ashamed to admit to. These will likely be dark aspects of our character which have been rejected or repressed due to our upbringing, or a disapproving society. Jung described this side of the personality as the shadow. "

I have read many articles and posts which state dimson represents our
collective shadow.

I aint part of that collective, I reiterate.

There is nothing in my uncoscious that comes within a universe of
dimson's shadow - dark side.

And I would guess that most of the posters on DU could make the same claim. (- not counting visitors from the loony side checking on what we're saying -)
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 06:50 PM
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15. You've actually demonstrated it perfectly, Pallas

I have a wonderful book called Embracing Our Selves, The Voice Dialogue Manual by Hal Stone, PhD and Sidra Winkelman, PhD, with an intro by Shakti Gawain. Chapter 2 is "Disowned Selves: Our Lost Heritage." An excerpt:

Disowned selves are energy patterns that have been partially or totally excluded from our lives. They can range from being angelically spiritual, creative, and mystical to being lustful, selfish, and even demonic.

To better understand this process, we must examine more closely how we disown some of our selves. What is a disowned self? Pause for a moment and think of soemone whom you dislike intensely, someone who possesses, in your opinion, totally reprehensible character traits. What is it that makes this individual so worthy of your contempt? Be specific about the qualities that repel you. If you are glad that you are in no way similar to this despicable person, you have discovered your first disowned self. The traits in this person that irritate you reflect an energy pattern within you that you do not wish to integrate into your life under any circumstances.

...The disowned self is an energy pattern that has been punished every time it has emerged....

In Jungian terms, our disowned selves are part of our shadow. When we see them reflected in others -- when we see someone unashamedly living out an energy pattern similar to one we have disoned -- we feel this disowned pattern resonate withouin ourselves. However, this pattern has been associated with pain and punishment int he past, so we want it to go away as soon as possible. In order to quiet our internal discomfort we must rid ourselves of the corresonding external stimulus. We must kill off the persxon who is so audaciously living out
our disowned self, whether we do it literally -- as in a Jack-the-Ripper-style murder -- or symbolically -- such as sitting in judgment of someone. hester Prynne in The Scarlet Letter painfully but clearly illustrated the price paid for living out the adulterous disowned self belonging to the Puritan community in which she lived.


...


...(W)hat we disown, life brings to us, over and over again, until we can recognize the teaching within these repetitive, unpleasant life experiences.


...much more in a very worthwhile (IMO) book. It's important to understand that, as Stone and Winkelman put it, you don't have to "become the disowned self -- simply allow its energy to speak."

I really appreciate that you've brought this up and gave me the opportunity to haul this wonderful book out again. It's helpful in understanding the article even better, and some stuff *I* needed to hear (again).

OMgoodness, look at this. When I went to put that book back on my bookshelf, I noticed another book, Debbie Ford's The Dark Side of the Light Chasers: Reclaiming Your Power, Creativity, Brilliance, and Dreams with a forward by Neale Donald Walsch -- a whole book about integrating shadows! Debbie says, "Your life will be transformed when you make peace with your shadow." And much more, including something from Lazarus on the subject: "The shadow also holds the secret of change, change that can affect you on a cellular level, change that can affect your very DNA."

I think I have to re-read this book! Thanks again, Pallas.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:39 PM
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16. Those that believe in past lives,
understand this well:

..".(W)hat we disown, life brings to us, over and over again, until we can recognize the teaching within these repetitive, unpleasant life experiences.

Seems to me there could be a lot of former Salem residents (on this board :) ) who have learned, recognize, and sure don't want to do it
again or be associated with it again.

And that's a good thing.

Yes, dimson and his darth vader crew can be looked at and recognized and shunned and shuttered at, whether from recognition, or just plain
horror.

I don;t think Eloriel that those who look at Hitler in horror, are hiding similar unconscious traits.

It seems to me those who look at dimson and Hitler with great admiration openly and consciously condone and revere those traits whether they're from the subconscious or not. In fact, it seems that in almost 50 % of America...he has brought that "shadow" up to consciousness.
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