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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 07:09 PM
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This should be interesting; taking it with a wee grain of salt though:
Edited on Sat Oct-21-06 07:22 PM by lildreamer316
ON EDIT: hope I'm not repeating info, I have checked back in the archives,but so far nothing; sometimes it seems to not come up when there is a repeat; my apologies if so.



Was cruising around some internet sites about reincarnation and stumbled upon the guy who claims he is the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce; David Wilcock. I dunno if that is true or not,but the site is pretty cool, if a bit pushy to buy his stuff. Seems he is either attempting or has made a movie called "Convergance" ; here's the blurb from the site:

"David's scientific work, thoroughly documented for free public consumption on this website, is now being realized into a feature Hollywood documentary film, CONVERGENCE. We hope to see CONVERGENCE hit theaters by the end of 2006.
We are certain that Convergence is timely, salient and of true benefit to humanity.

Our planet is undergoing extreme changes while a great portion of humanity lives in stress and anxiety. At the same time, amazing discoveries are being made that have the potential to transform our lives in a way that is nothing short of remarkable. Unfortunately, the majority of people have not received these findings, and oftentimes when they do, the information is fragmented and difficult to comprehend.

Convergence is a trilogy about the latest findings from experts, accompanied with scientific verification and graphics about the true nature of, and our direct impact upon, the universe. It presents interviews with leading scientists, physicians and researchers in the fields of physics, the mind, astronomy, ancient history and noetics.
This is a movie that not only should be made, it NEEDS to be made.

The potential for great advances are mitigated by the potential for great disasters. This movie is presented so that we may all move forward into the greatest renaissance in humanity's history: the evolution of consciousness and true peace."

So anyway, just thought it was interesting that a spate of movies in this spiritual vein seem to be all the rage right now, eh? Could be indicative of something overall, I feel.

Here's the site: http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php

On Edit again!: Upon reading even further into his site, I take back a bit of skepticisim, although still holding the salt shaker firmly...this is really well thought out and seems at first glance to be fairly scientifically sound: http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=53&Itemid=30
(just for your fun reading!)
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-21-06 09:13 PM
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1. Wow, I've never heard about this guy!
His sight seems a bit wacky in some places. But, I must admit I am impressed with the similarity in their natal charts.

Thx for posting this. I will have to read some of his stuff.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 07:18 AM
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2. I read the book written about Wilcock
Edited on Sun Oct-22-06 07:18 AM by cassiepriam
titled The Reincarnation of Edgar Cayce?: Interdimensional Communication and Global Transformation by Wynn Free, David Wilcock.

Was an interesting read, but did not convince me.
I am willing to be persuaded however!

Also there seems to be a significant phenomenon occurring these days, many men who claim to be the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce. I have run into a number of them.

I am not sure if this is the new age version of Elvis sightings, or if there is something legitimate going on from a spiritual perspective.

Keep in mind that many past life regressonsists no longer believe that all pasts lives are literal, may not have actually happened. We may be downloaded with symbolic archetypes at incarnation to aid us somehow in soul growth.

So I am still trying to sort out what all the Cayce reincarnations are about.

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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 08:41 AM
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3. Yeah I heard of this one a few years ago. . .
Edited on Sun Oct-22-06 08:50 AM by stellanoir
His claim sort of rang true to me at the time but I can admittedly be gullible sometimes.

I was not aware that others were claiming to have been Cayce though.

Cassie,

This line made me LOL.

"I am not sure if this is the new age version of Elvis sightings, or if there is something legitimate going on from a spiritual perspective."

It reminds me of a period in the 80's when I was doing a lot of karmic work and regressions and I kept on attracting women as clients who were absolutely certain that they had been Mary Queen of Scots. I think she was an archetype of a women whose lack of discernment in men cause her demise. Whereas Elizabeth was really able to sustain her power through her discretion in her confidants and advisors.

Interesting that those two archetypes lived in the 1500's (=6) and seemed on one level, to represent the Virgin/Whore schism. I knew their birthdays at one point. I may look them up again.

It was ironic for me though to listen to and be empathetic with these clients who would tell me how they were victims and repeatedly had conflicts with red headed women.

It was a bit of a challenge for me though as I'm as sure as I can be that I was one of Elizabeth's astrologers and she was extremely astrologically astute herself. So I had to be really compassionate and overcome a rather HUGE bias with these clients.

There is a funny story about Elizabeth's knowledge of the passage of Halley's Comet and how it had been reputed to depose rulers. On the night the comet was at its perigee, she stood out on her balcony with her fist raised and yelled towards the comet, "I DARE you !!!"

She was and is to this day a total trip with whom I've had a very curious and awkward dynamic. This time her Sun/Mars/Uranus is on my Moon, her Moon/Neptune conjunction is on my Pluto, and her Mercury is opposed my Mars, her Venus is on my descendant, her South Node is on my Uranus, and her Saturn is on my Chiron. No karma there I assure you. Yikes.
(/sarcasm)

Yet more to the point, archetypes really serve a broad symbolic function. In as much as any woman who has made poor choices in male companions who have set them up to be victimized will align themselves with Mary Queen of Scots. Similarly, anyone who had a Southern incarnation where they were drawing from a higher Spirituality in the midst of the Bible Belt might align themselves with Cayce. It is said that he read the Bible cover to cover every year of his adult life.

The bottom line is people gain notoriety through certain human behaviors and there are a finite number of those behaviors though there are subtle and infinite distinctions that make each precious life unique unto itself. I marvel over that commonality and diversity all the time.

And cass. . .guess what. . .? Elvis just walked by my house. :)
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 01:28 PM
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4. Yikes, maybe Elvis wants you to do a reading for him :)
He is between heavenly rock gigs and thought he would stop by.......! :)

Perhaps if Wilcock were the only one making the Cayce claim he might be a bit more credible. But so many claim the same thing. Every time I run across one of the the Cayce reincarnated folks I get their natal chart just for curiosity's sake to do a comparison. I have noticed that only young men, ages 22-35 are making this claim by the way.

Interestingly my natal chart has a number of similarities with Edgar Cayce's natal chart, but I am most certainly not him! Edgar Cayce really had a rather unremarkable natal chart from a karmic standpoint. Mine is much more complex and rich than his. But he is arguably the best 20th century psychic that ever was, and I am a nobody with the barest of psychic skills. So much for natal chart similarities.

(I will say that all of his work resonates strongly with me, but that is because we came back with some of the same type energy, but we manifested very differently.)

In terms of past life regression similarities that we are finding, there are a number of explanatory possibilities. Some say that the regressionists may be leading the clients, but I have seen highly skilled, well trained regressionists who keep getting the repetitive lives. John the Baptist is another biggie in terms of repetition. Others say that perhaps the client being regressed was involved in that famous person's life but in a more mundane position. Perhaps a handmaiden to Mary Queen of Scots for example.

And or yes, could be an archetype. There are only so many permutations in human existence, most life stories fall into a handful of dynamics, but as you say the variations within the archetypes are exceedingly complex. Most important in this kind of work is to not get sidetracked by the specific life, but to look at the symbolic dimension as you point out Stella.

Also as a side note, many regressionists don't even like to be called past lives regressionists as it the notion of past lives is a bit passé. The current thinking is that past, present and future is an artifact of human limited thinking. And that our other lives may be occurring simultaneously to this one. Or that we may jump back and forth in time, according to karmic goals and purposes. And some like Brian Weiss have been doing progressions, future lives, so regressionist is not even the word to use any more.

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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 01:58 PM
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5. Elvis wants a reading???
Edited on Sun Oct-22-06 02:28 PM by stellanoir
Yikes one reincarnated dead rock star in my life already is plenty. :)

I've my hands full with that one.

You are not a nobody and you do have psychic skills dear.

When I was facilitating regressions way back when, I had three people remember uncannily similar lives in some jungle in one week and that made me stop doing them altogether because I was concerned about projection though I've no recollection of any such lives and I've always remembered many of mine.

For in depth readings after that I'd just check the akashic. Then I started doing "quickies."

Then the long parade of Mary Queen of Scots appearing across the table from me commenced. I didn't lead them on in those instances. That parade went on for years until I met the reincarnated Elizabeth and jokingly wrote a story about a macrobreatharian named Vishnu who had previously made a fortune by decoding a bagal recipe from the Kabbalah who then started channeling Mary. He would come out of his trance in a fog surrounded by bare spare ribs and empty bottles of meade. The story climaxed with an exorcism at the "London Bridge" in Arizona (???) of a slew of people who would involuntarily channel Mary. Needless to say it was a fairly silly story. Haven't met a single Mary ever since though.

I would imagine that anyone with spiritually innovative ideas who had gotten decapitated for those ideas would relate strongly to John the Baptist.

Still how shared oversouls relate to this phenomenon I feel is also worthy of consideration.

The notion of fame and how it effects the collective is also a powerful influence.

Oh dear. . .we will sort it all out over time I reckon. It's fun to speculate until then though, for sure.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 02:59 PM
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6. Elvis is really dead?! Wow. :)
Well my point was that natal charts can be deceiving.
I look like I should be sitting in Virginia Beach Beach channeling Whoever, and instead I live out in corn fields, slogging away at laundry and and other mundane tasks. Psychic skills confined to deciding if the milk has turned sour, and will I get to work without running out of gas.... :)

Yes I think that is interesting when regressionists get a run of the same/similar dynamic. I noticed that Brain Weiss had that happen and he too wondered if he was projecting his own issues, or past on the clients.
Or if they somehow were picking up his inner workings.

Or if there was some message that he should pay attention to. Something important being communicated to him.

And yes you get the drift of the symbolism behind the lives. That is really the most important part of it all.

And yes the notion of an over soul is also a possibility. We belong to soul groups, we incarnate with similar soul DNA and goals. Like a cluster of grapes hanging on the vine. Would then have similar symbolic past lives. Or literal ones.

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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 04:52 PM
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7. Now this is getting silly.
In as much as I adore grapes in all their wondrous and amazing forms and live by a vineyard, when I read what you wrote about the bunch of grapes I flashed on the guy in the grape suit for the old fruit of the loom commercials.

Not that it wasn't a thoroughly apt analogy. It's been a crazy lunation. Yikes again.

But more seriously, there are those I know are drawing from a similar oversoul and I may never even need to interact with them because we have no conflict. It's interesting that way. Yet those who are continuously in one's face are the individuals with whom we require rectifications. Or so it would seem.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 05:23 PM
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8. I remember the grape underwear guy, Never thought of him
in the context of oversouls, but I will from now on. :)

They do say that those in the same soul group can have considerable conflict. All karmic of course and all decided in the pre birth plan. All wanting to work thru the same karmic issue. Someone in our soul group may come back deliberately to make things difficult for us because we need to learn some lessons about a topic that we have been struggling with for many lives.

In Newton's books he talks about the soul group members who have made our lives hell, they tend to hang back when we go for the soul group reunion at death. We are not too fond of them at this point and it will take a while to work out the painful feelings and process the lessons learned or not learned. That is the purpose of the soul group, to help each other with soul growth. Which usually doesn't feel very good :(
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 06:50 PM
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9. Thanks, you both, I was just about to post about that idea.
Edited on Sun Oct-22-06 06:50 PM by lildreamer316
Was wondering what you thought of soul groups,or (are you viewing this as the same thing) multiple incarnations of the same soul? Do you think maybe that was what was happening? I know that seems a bit far-fetched also, but the idea certainly has been put out there, (I don't remember which of Newton's books it's in,I'll have to go check my shelf). I know having that many ppl with a part of the soul could be a bit too unbelievable (!!).
However, Cayce was such a strong and influential person in our education and ascendancy, that I wonder.....
Side note: I would DIE to meet and hear stories from the reincarnated Elizabeth!! I'm not asking, but that has to be just so damn cool! Can you tell us what traits she retained? I'm just curious what carried over from such a strong woman to (I guess it's) another woman in times like these. The traits she had could be so very useful in these times, but I'm sure she has her own path to follow.
I love stuff like that.

AND speaking of, have either of you read this book?

http://www.amazon.com/Guinevere-Laurel-Phelan/dp/0671526154

I have it,because I'm a huge Arthurian fantasy addict. It seems to be reasonably believable, but I do take it all with lots of sodium. She doesn't seem to over-romanticize it, anyway. I treat it as just another view on a period we will probably never know much about in actuality.

Great discussion...
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 05:59 AM
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11. That is a possibility.
That Edgar Cayce came back as multiple souls.
This is not supposed to be a common occurrence however, and I have not heard of anyone splitting off into so many souls in the same incarnation. It would take tremendous energy to keep all those souls going at the same time. And yes, one of the Newton books talks about this phenomenon.

I have not read the Guinevere book you mention, it sounds very interesting. From reliable clairvoyants I have heard that King Aurthur was NOT just a legend but was fact. And he is one of the ascended masters, I will go look it up and refresh my memory as to which one.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:06 AM
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12. El Morya was King Arthur
If you follow the ascended masters information
it is El Morya. He also incarnated as Thomas Becket as well as Thomas More.

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mntleo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:05 PM
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10. Why Does Everyone Think They were/are Someone Famous?
I was given a reading many years ago for my birthday. Not ONE of my lives was anyone famous and she said I had lived 297 lives, lol! About the closest I got was as an engineer in Prague, and it was not even worthy of getting a name. She said most of my lives were in dire poverty and well, I am living up to that karma ~ AGAIN! :eyes:



Oooo! Ooo! I think I just saw Elvis at the Space Needle ~ he was revisiting his movie set in 1962! :silly:

Cat In Seattle
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 06:15 AM
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13. That is an interesting question.
Again, we are trying to sort out why that happens.

Could it be wishful thinking on the part of the client who is being regressed? Or could it be that the person was a part of the famous person's life, but perhaps in a supporting role, a family member or servant?

Or again is it this whole archetype thing. A famous person's story is immediately understandable and clear in terms of meaning and symbolism.

I have never been any one famous either! I have been involved in several famous person's lives as a supporting character. A young monk who witnessed the first Thomas Moore's death. The first wife of Thomas Beckett who died young. A college teacher to Thomas More the poet. The best friend to the mother of St Francis. (the mother of St Francis is my current mother in this life, our family has many ties to St Francis).

Best friend to Jane Austin the author, helped give her ideas for her books and critiqued them for her.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:34 AM
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14. Not everyone does relate to fame in that way.
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 07:53 AM by stellanoir
We discussed that issue at length, citing examples in terms of archetypes and lifetimes that symbolize certain shared behavior patterns which are simply endemic to our very species and in that way are commonly shared.

The likelihood of a famous person's spirit/soul fragmenting seems a bit remote to me but I suppose is possible in instances of really self destructive demises or something. Not sure.

I tend to view conflicts as "soul entanglements" and have rarely experienced them with those who share the same oversoul. Not meaning to split hairs here as none of this is really verifiable, it's just my humble perspective or observation and probably comes down to nothing more than semantics really.

lil: I can't really divulge much about the reincarnated Elizabeth because of confidentiality issues. Rest assured she's lost none of her spunk though. :)

Aaaand wow that Elvis certainly gets around.






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mntleo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:55 AM
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16. Yeah, Fame Is Not That Important IMO
...it is the lessons we get from out of our journey and, as you said, archetypes are perhaps something that is related to. What I mean about my last comment is that it seems to me to be a clinging to things of this world, hazing the reason for learning from karma rather than accepting that from out of the mundane seems to be where the most profound enlightenment comes, not whether we were a “rock star” in another time.

Could it also be that the ERA is something that affects us deeply as well? I am a child of the '60s, it affected me profoundly. I became an activist because of that time and found a deep and passionate belief that resonated with my soul out of that time. I remember at the age of 16 after some horrible experiences, coming to the conclusion that Love, the agape kind, was the key to my life. In spite of the problems I had then (I was a straight kid, I never participated in the mind-bending experience of LSD, or even smoked pot), but out of my limited teenage experience I became convinced that learning how to love was my life's work. A great deal of that was because of the times, and I do not think I would have come to that conclusion if all that had happened to me had happened even a decade earlier. I could say becoming inspired and then watching the assassination of several great leaders, the hippie movement, the music, it all affected me deeply, and was kind of like an orchestra, a cacophony of voices/music/experiences/observations that guided me to the conclusion I came to. I think I was swept up by the times, and within that context, this had a great deal to do with my choices. In my next few lives I might say I was a "friend" of Bobby Kennedy's or Martin Luther King's because they resonated so deeply in my heart, am I making any sense here?

Living lives simultaneously is mind boggling to me, I remember years ago reading that in the Seth books and the concept literally knocked me out of my chair. I believe it was Brian Wiess who also said that, one of the reasons many of us concentrate on our PAST lives rather than our future ones was because if we try to explore our future lives, we would have to face the end of THIS life, which is not yet scripted as it all depends on the choices we make. Because I believe we truly have free choice, I do not believe in destiny. I think when we choose to return here, it is like planning a trip, we get out the map after we decide a destination and plan the route we will take, where we will stay and make our reservations. But when we embark, we may find that our best laid plans are not possible or we decide to take a different route, perhaps there is a washed out road that takes us a different direction, and maybe we won't even reach our destination because of our distractions. This does not mean the whole trip is wasted though, and perhaps we work out other karma and maybe we even learn what we originally set out to learn, just in a different way.

Anyway it seems to me that hanging on to being someone famous is kind of missing the point of karma because it clings to values of this world, of being impressed with a bunch of paper dolls, rather than being impressed with what we have to do at this time. We cannot change the past and we do not know the future, so all we have is NOW, this moment and the choices we make from this time on in this linear world. If we get distracted we might get waylaid and it seems to me to be the most important thing is not whether or not we've been famous, ever have been famous, or are even affiliated with famous people. So, all I'm just sayin' is if we are concentrating on what this life offers at this moment, and conscience of the choices we make today, that those intentions have pure motives, perhaps this has what we need to look at, and it has little to do with whether or not we were once famous or even hobnobbed with the famous, that's all.


My 2 cents

Cat In Seattle

P.S. On the way to taking my kids to school, I am sure we saw Elvis waiting at the bus stop this morning and nobody even noticed. Maybe it was because he had sunglasses on!
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:54 AM
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17. Wow what a thoughtful response.
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 11:59 AM by stellanoir
Firstly, I've typed this quotation before from one of my colleagues.

When he was asked whether he believed in fate or free will his response was "On a bad day I believe in fate. On a good day I believe in free will."

Similarly I feel that you can see in charts varying degrees of karmic influence. Some people simply have more intensely karmic issues than others.

Like any esoteric tool, past life knowledge is never meant to be used an excuse for or to enable atrocious behaviors. Anyone in this field has had to listen to some obese person say something like, "I'm overweight because of previous lifetimes of starvation" or "I abused them because they abused me in another time" and on and on it goes "perpetuating retribution."

> whether or not we were once famous or even hobnobbed with the famous, > that's all.

I don't disagree with you but you may have misread my humor and it was not intended to even be remotely braggadocious, quite to the contrary.

I'm reminded of the I Ching hexagram for "preponderance of the small." It's one of my favorites and why I find such joy in gardening and many other of the simplest activities.

Living in the moment is unquestionably key to arriving and sustaining truly zen happiness. No one enjoys having a karmic pattern unfold repeatedly like a broken record. Redemptive action in the NOW is for sure what matters far more than getting swept up by past accomplishments as they usually are not without their foibles, underbellies, and hooks.

I've always joked that I prefer infamy to fame and really have always been troubled by many destructive aspects of fame which can border on idolatry and are sometimes not so healthy.

It's always puzzled me that some people often work and work and work for recognition and then often have to spend a fair amount of their worth buffering themselves from those who recognize and adore them.

Another peculiar thing I've observed is that some creative artists end up having to remove themselves from certain spontaneity and the very pulse or rhythm of life that had initially inspired them and they sometimes lose or have to adjust their muse. It is sometimes reflected in their art.

So I probably have a peculiar attitude about all of it.

"In my next few lives I might say I was a"friend" of Bobby Kennedy's or Martin Luther King's because they resonated so deeply in my heart, am I making any sense here?"

Absolutely.

"Living lives simultaneously is mind boggling to me," Yup I know what you mean but there have been some revelatory moments wherein I've sensed a mere glimmer of the vastness of it all which are both mind boggling and inspiring and sometimes hard to truly integrate at the same time.

You were so fortunate to recognize the essential importance of unconditional love in your youth.

Thanks for sharing your wisdom.

It was pretty funny that as I was typing this a dear friend called me. I've only spoken to him three times in the last decade. I had thought of him yesterday and left a message with him apologizing for having not sent him my writing last spring. He is not on the internet. He is now a Buddhist and his response was, "I wrote a beautiful novel but I wrote it on the surface of a pool with a stick."

How zen is that? :)
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 01:00 PM
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19. The planning ..
theory is one I'm not sure I agree with. I happen to believe in parallel lives due to what quantum physicists know about time/matter/space. That being said, we are mostly only aware of the space/time continuum of NOW. I've been reading a spiritual/physics book, slow slogging at times, but worth it even if I don't understand it all.

I've only had one past life reading and have no talent for doing that for myself. What the reader thought was important, I found interesting, but the real meat was in the surrounding events. It was my mother. I recognized her immediately. She 'was' my sister. I have no doubt that our current life has been charged with karmic implications. I think her agenda was to punish me for what she perceived as being punished before. Actually, I was innocent. After I got the reading, my conscious agenda became to clear out any unfinished business so I don't have to deal with her again at that level of intensity. The planning theory would maintain that we both arrived in the here and now with our own agendas. She got hers, although I don't think she is satisfied yet, and I'm still working on mine. I just don't want her around me any more. I hope her soul gets what it is looking for somewhere else. I'm done being her vengeance outlet.

It is all very interesting, the other dimensions, souls, lives, beingness. I could study it all day. But, my flesh has to eat ;)
Throw a donut to Elivs.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 02:53 PM
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22. Very well said.
The only point of past lives work is to make soul progress in the here and now. Getting bogged down in ego is missing the essence of karmic work.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 02:44 PM
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20. Oh, no problem...
I figured you couldn't say much. I can just imagine, thought....that spirit must be inspiring someone, that's for sure!

Hmmm..wonder what Queen Victoria is doing nowadays??
Ok, I gotta stop.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:05 PM
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21. probably a
hemophiliac. not sure
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 12:57 PM
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18. I was never anyone famous when I was regressed,
either. A Spanish nobleman was as "illustrious" as I got, and was an absolute terrible person in that lifetime - I was told I was still paying back karma from that lifetime. While the lives experienced were interesting to ME, in that they related so much to my current life, there was no fame whatsoever for me. Supposedly I learned astrology in a past life that was quite short; I was a sickly boy whose parents allowed me to explore whatever struck my intellectual fancy, since it was known that I wouldn't live long. I learned that because I asked why Astrology had seemed so familiar to me, despite my rigid upbringing.

I discovered lifes that explained certain physical "issues" - lifetimes of injuries to ONE part of my body. A tragic life that was all about sacrificing for an UNworthy cause, and learning that it was the sacrifce that mattered, not the cause. SHort lifes, long lifes, lives lived on six continents, but NEVER anyone famous, not even close. Even in my past lives I was boring, I guess.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:47 AM
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15. I read tons of EC material years ago and I remember him saying
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 08:10 AM by OhioBlues
he knew when he'd be back.

ON EDIT FROM HIS WEBSITE:


Q Has Edgar Cayce reincarnated/returned? Did Edgar Cayce predict his return (in 1998)?
A This question has come up very frequently–with individuals claiming to either be Edgar Cayce himself or stating that they are in communication with Edgar Cayce. At the present time, A.R.E. does not believe that Edgar Cayce has returned.



Part of the reason that individuals may be asking the question in the first place is because of a reading that suggested Edgar Cayce could return in 1998. Let us look at a couple of possibilities regarding what this might mean:



1) Cayce would literally return in the flesh in 1998. If literal, does this mean that he was born around 1998, or does this mean that he would make his presence known in 1998? The important thing to remember is that even if Edgar Cayce did return, he is not necessarily going to pick up his life as “Edgar Cayce.” He would have a new life with new opportunities and new lessons. We can find an example of this in the Bible dealing with the reincarnation of Elijah as John the Baptist. Jesus stated that John was, in fact, the reincarnation of Elijah. Edgar Cayce also confirmed the same thing in his readings. However, when John was asked straightforward, “Are you Elijah?” He replied, “No, I am John.” In other words, the personality does not reincarnate, only the soul entity (or the true individuality) returns.



2) Many people believe that Edgar Cayce’s material would begin to return to the spotlight around 1998–making more and more individuals aware of the wealth of helpful insights he left behind. Interestingly enough, in December 1997 the A&E’s Biography did a program on Edgar Cayce’s life. At around the same time, a 26-week series on Edgar Cayce’s life and work called The New Millennium starting airing on the Wisdom Cable Channel. In addition, since that time a new biography: Edgar Cayce: An American Prophet has been released in both hardback and paperback. A.R.E. has also launched a major website, attracting tens of thousands of “hits” per month. All of these things have certainly helped to heighten an awareness of the Cayce information.

Another important consideration is that oftentimes, in the process of a “soul awakening,” individuals have memories and feelings from the past that somehow come to the surface in the present. Part of our challenge in this process is sorting through all of the images, memories, and feelings, attempting to separate reality from metaphor.

In other words, sometimes individuals have such strong feelings and images about a particular person and/or place that they begin to associate personally with those memories. Generally, memories of this nature are not literal. Most often, these feelings and images should be associated with what the person/place really means to us in the present. In other words, what is it about the individual or the time period in history that touches us very deeply at a soul level?

Sometimes, individuals were actually associated with a famous person in a past life and came to revere that person. The result is that in this incarnation the individual has a strong sense of familiarity with that “famous” soul. In fact, frequently this familiarity becomes so strong that the individual in the present begins to think they were actually that person from the past.

With this in mind, it is very likely that individuals who think that they are the return of Edgar Cayce actually had a close association with him (and his work) in one of his past incarnations. According to his own readings, his soul had been very active in doing a similar work in at least three additional time periods: Atlantis, Ancient Egypt, and Palestine.

All of this said, frequently individuals have still been so convinced that they are either the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce or in communication with him, that we have often asked them to respond to several questions that only Edgar Cayce would know the answer to. At this point in time, no one has ever answered any of the questions correctly.

http://www.edgarcayce.org/question_answers.asp#ecrencarn
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 07:26 PM
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23. I've been reading stuff from this site.
It's really fascinating. And I apologize in advance for a long post. But this thread had sunk down, and this site -- I find it really fascinating.

I printed out one of the free books. I've been reading about this stuff for a while, and while a great deal of it goes over my head, some of it also resonates very well.

I remember quite clearly one day in college chemistry class, this would be the early seventies, when we were looking at electrons and shells, and how the electrons orbited around the nucleus of the atom. And the teacher was telling us that no, they didn't do that circle, orbiting thing that we had probably been taught. That they vibrated in a wave, and that there was a probability that an electron was in a particular location.

That part, I think, is Heidigger's (sp?) uncertainty principle, that the more you know about, say, the location of a subatomic particle, the less you know about its position, and vice versa, the more you know about its position, the less you can know about its velocity and direction and all that. So that, gee whiz, you just CANNOT know exactly where it is and how fast it is going in what direction, because by observing this subatomic particle you have had such a great effect on it that you have altered it, and there is no way to know what it would have done, had you not observed it.

Sorry for the long-windedness.

This really struck me. Kind of knocked me out, at the time.

Then, there were pictures of the shapes of the waves that the electrons were supposedly vibrating in. Some kind of standing waves. Whatever. And one of them was just like a soundwave, like a guitar string. And you split it in half, with a node, or like a guitar string, put your finger there, and it was an octave higher. (Correction: they were all rather like soundwaves, I think, but one looked like a guitar string. The others were more complex and round. But they all added up to the OCTAVE!)

And all of a sudden, in a flash, I was looking at the periodic table, and I thought, oh, my God, the universe is made of waves, it's all connected, music and light and matter, it's all the same! And I figured out how it worked in the first two or three lines of the periodic table, but I couldn't make it work any further. So I kind of let it go. I was a theatre major at the time. I was taking chemistry because I thought I might want to go to medical school.

So now, reading this site, it seems that's what they're saying. I had since then come across explanation that the universe is, indeed, all waves. And I would kind of remember that moment, and not be too surprised. But not illuminated, either.

At the only other moment of great illumination I ever had, I was actually on some kind of a psychedelic drug, not too much, because I was very sensitive then. And I suddenly had this vision of everything being -- I didn't know what it was at the time, but now I know that that is a hologram, or a fractal. That everything in existence is a finer and finer articulation of God. So we think we're all separate, but we're just finer and finer articulations of the same thing. By finer and finer, I mean, smaller and smaller, and further apart, but still coming from the same root. Like, more finely branched. Like roots of a tree, or branches of a tree.

Then I went about my life, which was something altogether different.

I also really loved geometry in grade school. And you know, they don't teach too much geometry anymore, that I can see. It was so beautiful!

So at this site, and all this stuff about sacred geometry, even though I don't get it all, it all certainly does make sense, and resonate with me absolutely thoroughly, totally, all the way.

So thanks, thanks a bunch for showing me this site. In a way, it's brought me full circle with things I thought 30 years ago, and validated them, and thereby validated some of my more personal observations/experiences that I would never have had the courage to share with anyone then.

Thanks, really, thanks and thanks.

And I would recommend this site to anyone who is interested in any of that stuff. Especially the "free book" page.

ETM
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