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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 02:44 AM
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My mind was yelling "fire"
I sorta' hate to start a thread about one psychic incident but this one is pretty interesting.

Last Tuesday I started getting visions of a fire. The pics in my head were very much like how the psychic shows represent psychic visions.* I discounted the first one, though, as I'd recently had a conversation with someone about a fire. I figured the vision was related to the conversation.

But it kept up over the week. I decided to check my fire alarms. I did find one that needed to be fixed.

I still kept getting these flashes. In one case, I saw some yellow legal pad paper going up in flames. The yellow legal pad was on the desk.

OK, so tonight in my evening class, I called on a student to do her presentation and she said she wasn't prepared. She mentioned something about an email but I hadn't received the email. I went on to the next student.

After class was over, this student stayed to talk with me. The first thing she said was, "I'm sorry I couldn't present tonight. My notes and everything went up in flames when my house burned down last Wednesday." (Note that I started having the visions on Tuesday.)

I am telling you, I just about fainted. I unfortunately burst out, "So it was you!" That put me in the position of having to explain. It was OK, though. The student is understanding toward things of this nature.

Then the yellow pad of notes made sense because she explained that her chapter outlines and book had gone up in smoke, too. She turned in her last round of outlines on yellow legal paper.

It just amazes me how some things can be tuned into. I tuned into her homework being destroyed.

The student is a sweetheart. She's maybe 30 years old, very attractive, and lives with her mother. She works f-t and is trying to finish her degree for a career in communications. Interestingly, throughout all the flashes of fire, I never once thought of her personally, though.

I asked how the fire started and she said the firefighters remarked that they'd had a number of fires where it appeared to start near the DirectTV box. Apparently it "burns hot."




Cher

*this isn't usually how it is for me. It usually is like something just gets entered into my brain. Then when I become aware of it, it is like hitting "refresh" or tapping F5.



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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 05:27 AM
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1. Woah. Your poor student. And thanks for the heads up about
DirectTV. Jeez.

I had a premonition about a kitchen fire in our house last spring, right before one almost happened.
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Angel Wings Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:38 AM
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2. WOW!!!
I think you pick up on her deep distress about not being able to give her report to you. Maybe, out of all of the upsetting factors around the fire, not being able to finish the report upset her the most. And, since it concerned you, the message came to you strong.

hmm...interesting!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 12:45 PM
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3. I think those images are from guardian angels or spirit guides.
I have had them too, either interrupting my thoughts or in dreams. They have pointed to events that could happen and did happen when I disregarded them. When I listened to the warning and took appropriate preventive steps, the event didn't happen.

In the case of the fire, there wasn't anything to be done. You couldn't have prevented it not knowing whom it was going to happen to, but I believe they were preparing you to accept the excuse from your student. It might have been her spirit guide that was attempting to communicate with you.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 07:18 PM
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4. My .02: Spirit is sending you a message.
I do not think that the message was primarily about your student. I think Spirit is telling you that in addition to being clairsentient (this is the "knowing" that you describe), you are now starting to become clairvoyant. The fire pictures were a vivid illustration of your new talent so that you could not ignore or explain it away.

Clairvoyance is experienced thru the hypothalamus and pineal glands and for some reason that has been activated in you, which can happen for a number of reasons. Clairsentience or the knowing is the most common type of psychic ability, is the intuition that some people are good at. This type of ability is thought to reside in DNA at the cellular level, every body cell sends the messages rather than go thru the endocrine glandular system.

There are some exercises you can do to strengthen the pineal and pituitary glands btw.

I had the same type experience, clairsentient most of my life, but in the closet about it. I just could not understand why people could not see a situation the same way I did. About 10 years ago I became a bit clairaudient with some medium abilities, then about 6 years ago started some clairvoyance, and a few psychic dreams. Now every night before I go to bed see little movies running in my head, clear as a bell, remarkable detail of people and situations unknown to me. I believe the spirit world is just upgrading my abilities a little bit. And going thru some dry runs for the future. (I am not sure what this is all about, I do not have enough talent to do anything of any import, just enough to be curious and learn as much as I can.)

I have some theories about the development of psychic skills, one idea that I have is that the progression of psychic skills in some people can be age related. As hormonal levels drop, the endocrine system glands are activated. And if you think about it, across time and cultures older women were considered the wise members of a tribe, given a status not afforded to them when younger. And usually older women were considered the witches in some societies.

Interestingly too the research indicates that tribes where older women played a strong part had much higher rates of infant survival and individual life expectancy. I am wondering if this is connected to the possible increased rates of psychic abilities in the older women which they used to protect the children and adults of the tribe.

Cher you might want to start working on this talent and see if you can increase it. And start keeping the psychic journal I have mentioned in other posts. Keep track of your hits and misses. Also start identifying the highly symbolic personal code that you utilize. It is different for each of us. (That is one of the reasons I do not like cook book dream interpretation or psychic info interpretation.)
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-05-06 09:33 PM
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5. I concur fully with both cassie and cleita. . .as usual
It's perhaps a combo even on an odd day. :)

I had to think about this one for a while. . .

This sort of foreshadowing of a seemingly random event is generally a sign to pay greater attention.

Glad you handled your student so masterfully and your guidance alerted you to do so.

Pullease. . .Don't let it freak you out.

My first psychic experience that had a direct hingepoint with my physical reality was when I was very young. I saw my cousin's funeral in a dream. I played with him every day in my youth and he shared my birthday, though was two years younger. I cried for two days after having that dream.

Then he died. . .well it's a long story but someone who was very wise simply told me later after beaucoup consternation on my part, that "sensitives often process traumas before they happen so they can be stronger and more present for those who are not forewarned and who therefore react more adversely to a loss." It rang true. I had to inform a lot of extended family members. They were flipped.

This kid was a golden child. Having cried for two days before the fact, I was a rock and was able to comfort those who were not forewarned.

Of course, thoughts of being able to prevent the tragedy crossed my mind. But like you, the image I saw in the dream was non specific. I saw the funeral but I only knew that the person in the coffin had red hair. I've lots of red haired cousins. I called one of their houses but hung up before I could speak because what could I say as a kid. . .? "Don't leave the house for six months" or something? Though I targeted the right household I was intending on warning an older red head as it was beyond comprehension to me at the time that my younger cousin could be in danger.

You will hone your skills over time.

I swear. Be gentle on yourself as the universe often has increasingly less subtle ways of getting our full attention.
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Angel Wings Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 09:51 AM
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7. You all are so much more knowledgeable than I
This is all very knew to me...well, the tring to understand it part. I have had several instances like NJCher had but, opposite. People have come to me several times to tell me about a strange dream they had about me which happened to be very similar to what was going on with me at time or they felt my presence strongly the night before or they felt strong painful anxiety at the same time that I was going though something.

It depended on how well I knew the person whether I would let them in on the connection. It seems to me that I throw my energy sometimes. But, I don't know.:shrug: Weird experiences like this and many many other are the reason I frequent boards like this...tring to find answers.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 10:28 AM
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8. oh Dreamy don't sweat it.
But why would you view having a supportive environment as being weird?

Well it's certainly not a linear phenomenon but still, consider not viewing it as such as it's nice to know that some people "have your back" and are attuned to your processes even if you don't know them well.

Maybe take it as a random :hug:

:)
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 11:25 AM
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9. We have more control over things like this than we give ourselves credit for
Not all gifts are to be accepted...sometimes we just have to say "no thank you, I don't want this right now." Then, we can claim it when we are strong enough for it. I was lucky enough to have a wise teacher who taught me that early on in my journey. Much love and luck to you on yours, Dreamy :)
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 04:06 PM
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10. Yes we can say no to the gift......
I did that when the psychic dreams started, predicting
events for the next day. I asked not to have them and they
stopped. Whenever I have been rattled by things, all I have
to do is ask that they happen no more and it stops.
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 12:08 AM
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6. that's nuts Cher
seems to me too like it was testrun or something...damn, but I wish I could do that! You got a real gift right there, young lady!

"So it was you!"....I love that you said to her! Life is so weird and funny sometimes, even when awful things happen. I'm glad she's okay though. I hope you're not too weirded out by this, and are able to move into the changes that are happening to you with grace and a certain amount of trust. :hug: :yourock:
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 04:11 PM
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11. There was a fire last night in the building where I work...
It started in the ladies room 6 feet away from my office, the exhaust fan in there caught on fire. No one hurt, but extensive smoke damage. Fire dept had to chop down the doors to get in.

I have to move to another office so I can breathe, smoke is bad.

I looked at the yellow legal pads stacked on my desk and thought of your post Cher... :(

Just a coincidence I am sure............
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 04:46 PM
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12. This isn't the point ..
I may get to it . but I lived in Beaumont for six months last year. We moved several times.
There was a house fire across the street in our first location. My rm and the other woke up the family and got them out.
We moved and there was a house fire on our block. We found out later. Everyone got out.

House fires are really extremely rare, I would think.

The truly miraculous thing is that people get out. That is a deadly environment.
Wonder why you didn't get her email.

No direct tv here. No tv whatsoever. Not my style.

Thanks for sharing.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 08:07 PM
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13. your poor student was BLASTING you through the ether
you would have had to have been made out of stone not to hear her fear and frustration

:hug:
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 06:33 AM
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14. You wise women here have given me so much to think about
First, what Dreamy said about picking up on her distress about not being able to give me her class work. Yes, oh, yes, yes, yes. She had so much invested in it. My class is a lot of work. Your comment, Dreamy, made me realize how much my student cared and that's something I really needed to see right now.

Another point is what Cleita said about being prepared to accept the excuse. At this time of the year, we teachers are so inundated with excuses for failure that we get sort of jaded. This experience certainly did make me look at her inability to deliver in a different way.

I've been thinking a lot about what Cassie said about the older, wise women. I would have never thought about this being related to a drop in hormone levels. Someone with a science background and an interest in this phenomena could make that connection.

I do know that for all my life, I've been aware of these wise women and looked to the day when I might be one. When I was a college student, I was involved with NOW and feminist organizing. Most of the women involved in organizing at that time were college professors and business leaders. We would meet at their houses. I remember this comfortable feeling I had about their leadership.

That was such an important time for me. It was a turning point in my life--to be able to see these scholarly women, these women of literature, whose homes were full of books and family but who still had this desire and courage to spend time on a vision for a more equal future for women.

Then I went into a period where I dreamed about a group of older, wiser women. I would meet with these women. These dreams were very infrequent but when I had them, I felt like a completely new person the next day. It was like walking on air for about 10 days!

I later started feeling that it was perhaps at times when I felt dragged down and demoralized that I was able to "meet" with them. In any case, the after-effects of such meetings were euphoric.

So with all this in my history about "wise women," I think you can see, Cassie, how interesting and meaningful your insights are to me.




Cher

p.s. There is a counterpoint to your story about the fire in your building and the yellow legal pads, Cassie. I will write it up later.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 06:58 AM
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15. Wow, amazing, I had no idea about the wise women connection deep inside of you.
(That is so neat, what fabulous internal symbolism you have.)

And in fact I realized as I was writing the post that I had no idea how old you are. I thought later I might have offended you if you were young and no where near peri menopause!

(This kind of thing happens all the time to me in my work.
I will stumble upon significant issues without even realizing I am doing it. My major gift is this kind of practical, down to earth, service oriented helping skill. Gee and all I really want is to be able to see auras! And channel the ascended masters. Something more exciting and new age. :( )

The message about you that is coming to me:

Spirit has been leading you to this point for many years.
You have now arrived at a turning point in your life.
You are now one of the wise women in your dreams and it
is time for you to return the favor and act as a mentor
and wise women to others. And to use your gifts to help
yourself as well.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 07:05 AM
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16. PS
I do not think there has been much research about psychic abilities
by age and or gender.... certainly not by age. That would be an interesting study.

It would be an easy one to do in terms of measuring the estrogen level drop, that is easy to determine.

The harder part is measuring the psychic abilities. The more I study about psychic phenom the more I realize how complex these skills are, and not as easily classified and studied as I previously thought. And if you go in and look at the typical classification of psychic abilities they are woefully inadequate. We are still at a primitive level of understanding about all of this in my opinion.

This board has helped me realize all of that, as I read your stories and what is happening to each of you on a day to day basis.
Becomes more and more clear that we are looking at something complex and highly individualized.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 03:38 PM
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19. Cassie--
Don't forget that a common theme in many stories that are native-mythology-based I have read are very insistant on the point that young girls lose their psychic ablilities (among others)when they start their periods. So, it would make sense to me that the other would be true also-one would regain such abilities when one's period stopped.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 03:52 PM
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20. what?
I never heard that. I don't even want to venture.

That is sure something to think about, though.

I wish I had lived during the age of the goddess. Was there one?
Where young women got to go to the Temple or the forest to live through those days.
It was called "unclean" in the Bible. But irregardless of that, I think it's a good idea to get away from mundane during that time. Be kind to yourself.

I didn't lose my psychic abilities. In a perfect world, they are imparted to the children.

But they sure changed after the change. The only child I have now is myself. ugh-a
Or maybe everyone I meet every day :D ..
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 04:35 PM
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21. Wow, how very interesting, I am not familiar with that piece of folk lore...
But it does fit in with my theory that psychic skills in women may be
hormonally related. I just had not even thought about the other end
of the age spectrum, puberty.

But perhaps is is just a shifting and refocusing of psychic skills.

We have all heard of and/or experienced mother's intuition, which is another set of psychic abilities as far as I am concerned. Women use their psychic skills to ensure that their offspring live to adulthood.

Perhaps the abilities shift and refocus throughout the female life span. And that is an important function of the hormonal changes we all experience. I wonder if anyone has done any work in this area?
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 07:14 AM
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22. I am interested in the counterpoint you mentioned at the end of your post. nt
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japple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 01:45 PM
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17. I once dreamed about a fire and the next day
I got fired (undeservedly so) from my job. This was many years ago, and it turned out to be a really good thing. If I'd kept on in that dead end job, I'd never have met/married my dear husband.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 02:01 PM
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18. wow . that's a happy ending
I also got fired once. I had been transfered to a department I hated! My former job I loved and looked forward to was phased out. One night 1/7/02 (I remember that date), I did a cleansing ritual to specifically 'remove all negativity' from my life. The next day I was fired from that job. Guess it worked. Lesson . be very careful with magick.

I'm glad your experience led to such a wonderful outcome.
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