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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 01:46 PM
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Article about "vibrations" from a Malaysian newspaper
I can't imagine reading this in the NYT not to mention the Cincinnati Enquirer. Why are we so far behind even countries like Malaysia in some ways?
Healing our vibrations

Good Vibrations
By JAGUAR SPEAKS

We have often shared in this column how everything is about vibrations. Every part of us vibrates at a particular frequency and interacts with other frequencies. We are constantly transmitting our vibrations into the environment around us. We are attracted to others because their vibration is complementary to ours.

We attract things into our lives based on the magnetic fields we create by our vibrations. We start a spiritual and or healing journey and look for dramatic changes in our lives. Some of us seek instant change while others have difficulty in believing any change at all is possible.

One of the reasons we are finding difficulty in implementing Vision 2020 is the lack of action to implement its nine spiritual challenges in the hearts of all Malaysians. Our nation’s internal vibration is out of balance with our external vibration.

A few weeks ago I learned in a vision how to cleanse my internal vibrations at the deepest level. I was told my body had to be flooded with turquoise light – every cell had to be washed; every thought had to be cleaned.

http://thestar.com.my/health/story.asp?file=/2006/2/5/health/13297592&sec=health
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 03:30 PM
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1. What a lovely article and gentle message.
Who'd have thunk it that the violet-purple lady over here would be in desparate need of a turquoise bath?

Ahhh that would be a rhetorical question really.

Now I'm wearing my turquoise. :)

Thanks so-o-o much for sharing this OB.

As to your query as to the unlikelihood of something of this nature appearing in one of our newspapers, I've been thinking about that sort of disconnect a whole lot lately.

When I posted my "Imagine if you will. . ." cosmic trigger piece in mid October, I got the most fascinating PM the following week.

It was from one of the more popular and prolific scribes on GD. That person's real job is in the judicial system and they saw my post and had wondered how on earth they could possibly stay positive on that particular day (Oct. 17) throughout an entire day in court.

Amazingly enough, on that day for the full day, an incredibly spiritual aboriginal woman took the stand and spoke of her gentle culture and the oneness of it all, at great length.

The sender of that PM said that in 2 decades of working in the judicial system, nothing like that had ever happened before.

How cool is that. . .?

Ever since I got that PM, I'd been thinking. . . with our formerly inflated and now crumbled super power status, we've somehow collectively lost our soul and our very humanity and become largely focused on either superficiality or sheer survival.

Gentler cultures may have just strengthened their soulfulness in our shadow.

I hope to be able to post a preamble to a Solstice Prayer in here over the next couple days to at least in part, address this issue among many others.

Thanks again for posting this.

It's really uplifting. :hug:
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 04:06 PM
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3. I don't know
Edited on Sat Dec-09-06 04:07 PM by votesomemore
where my turquoise stone went. This happens sometimes. They just get their own mind and escapade somewhere else for adventure.

Turqoise is good to have friends. Guess I need to get another one.

I have so many green stones. Wonderwhy I kept getting them.

I'll rely on the Tiger stone for now. .. I know this sounds out there. but so am I.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 02:38 AM
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15. wow
the global consciousness vibration is rising and spreading

:)
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 03:33 PM
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2. it's the culture
From the Upanishads on down, the energetic things have been mostly eastern culture rather than western. That accounts for part of the difference. And newspapers from around the world have different "standards."

It was pretty amazing when about 10,000 folks in Phoenix experienced the Phoenix lights, right? That took months to get nation wide attention. USA had to "break" the story months late for other outlets to follow.

"Good vibrations" is a little out there for most media outlets here, but there are a pretty amazing number of articles about reiki, particularly when some hospital adds it to what they offer. For awhile I would purposely look for articles on reiki being practiced in health care facilities, just to kind of educate the Health group. I could count on some reaction there.

There are a fair number of newspapers here looking for human interest health stories, and I think it is conceiveable that there could be some article on someone who got some benefit from some sort of color therapy. I know that my own large city newspaper has a column on health success stories. People can contact the editors, who will in turn write about something like a way to lose weight, stop smoking, get more exercise, etc. Well, there was an article once about someone who got a benefit from NAET (Nambudripad Allergy Elimination Technique). Keep in mind I live not in southern California but the sort of red southern USA!! I am a huge NAET fan so that tickled me. And the article did not downplay the "weird" part of it. Nor did it downplay the benefits received by the person.

So, even though newspapers here are unlikely to write about some sort of color therapy as being a fact, many would probably be open to writing about it with reference to an individual's experience with it.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 05:18 PM
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4. I've done
Reiki too. It was such a pleasure when I first learned it.
But . it almost scares me now. Help me if you can.

A wonderful young woman started a circle here. But she closed after about a month.
She was overwhelmed. There was a younger guy there who practiced Huna. He was used to all the energy being generated by himself. As you know, Reiki is not self propelled. It is just a channel.

Are you saying that hospitals are advocating Reiki now?

Really the red south has many spiritual workers. Reflexology, ad infitinitum. They are actually very spiritual. Even though the 'leaders' make it seem as though they take the path of exclusion. In practice. I don't think so. But you best watch what you're dealing with. They conjure spirits. But in the name of the 'lawd'.

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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 06:00 PM
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5. I saw a program on the Discovery Health Cannel a month or so ago
about how hospitals are starting to bring in people who practice Reiki. They were skeptical at first, but after they saw the physical, mental, emotional and spiritual reactions of the patients (all positive), the staffs at the hospitals basically said, "Wow" and started enouraging the use of Reiki. It was quite fascinating.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 06:18 PM
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6. reiki
Well, yes, there are a few hospital clinics that have instituted reiki, because of patient demand for it. I have posted some about this in the health group in the past-- I think maybe Massachusetts General, the Cleveland Clinic, etc. There may be a fair amount of studies showing some benefits of reiki.

I actually have had the first two reiki classes and have done some free work at a support group for a cancer clinic. Really we didn't learn anything about spirits or channeling, at least at that level. My attitude towards it is sort of more pseudo scientific, because, if I am a channel, it is "just" for orgone. It isn't that I "believe" in orgone so much as I can feel it. Call it vital force or chi or whatever. When I did reiki, I even made my own orgone accumulator out of a glass spice bottle and layers of cotton and steel wool. I used it directly on top of the head of the cancer patients for about a minute (steel wool at the bottom). This kept me from getting "drained" of my energy.

Some reiki practitioners see colors, know what colors people need, etc. I am a little challenged there!! LOL. However, I could do muscle testing to see which chakras needed attention, were clogged, etc. It is a sort of flick of my fingers instead of using a pendulum. I could do that with colors as well, and stones.

So, I didn't learn spirits and don't use spirits, and just have a sort of agnostic view towards all of that. I'm a little bit too no nonsense for that. However, I am open to most anything.

Anyway, I don't do reiki much anymore. I was too swamped at the cancer place with very little other volunteer help, so I quit that altogether, and just do a little more high tech distance type work now with friends and family--I do the chakra stuff but it really isn't reiki.

Speaking of chakras, they really *can* be pretty directly involved in certain diseases. I have seen it in my family. Blood pressure could be a third chakra problem, and my husband's Fuch's Dystrophy (cornea) was a fourth chakra problem. I can't prove this except to my own satisfaction. (Note that I am not saying that all ills are because of chakra problems.) I kind of figured this out mostly not due to any reiki training I have had, but doing muscle testing for emotions related to acupuncture meridians.

I still love the orgone accumulator and would recommend it to anyone who isn't balanced. However, beware!! Some people definitely don't need it and react poorly to it (however I haven't found a cancer patient who didn't need it).

I think of California and Seattle, etc. for being the hotbed for this type stuff, but I learned a lot of what I know from a Mormon originally from Utah. Plus there is a Unity Church here with these people, but I don't go there and am mostly out of the loop here. I used to occasionally go to a Noetic Explorers group here. I didn't come to all this stuff because of any sort of natural inclination--but through the success of NAET with health problems with a daughter (and then me and other members of the family). It got too expensive and I figured I had to learn muscle testing, etc., myself, and finally learn the distance work because my family is spread out.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:23 AM
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8. Muscle testing is something I would like to know more about.
What Reiki did for me, four years ago, was just get me high tuned.
I went on the odd date site and one of the questions was, if you could have any magic power, what would it be. Lots of people wanted x-ray vision, flying. I thought about it and knew, I wanted the ability to touch and heal. I practiced on my ex-rm who insisted on paying me! I was not asking for money. It was just something given to me. Freely. I didn't need anyone to pay me. I did see something come out of his ankle one night. A firey red little critter with red hair standing straitght up. It startled me. I'm not used to seeing things. It was angry, but it left. I just kept the channel going.

My friend has lyme disease, which was not diagnosed at that time. He was diagnosed with fibromyalgia, and suffered great pain and very little sleep. When I would channel Reiki for him, he relaxed so much that he might even fall asleep. That's why he wanted to pay me. He said it was the most relaxing thing he had ever experienced. It does take some discipline. To be able to allow another body to talk to your hands and hold them in the position for up to an hour. It led me into massage because I am too empathetic to have ever taken on massage before I learned to allow the channel to work through me and not of me.

I think the chakra work just came as a by-product of Reiki. I don't really do a lot in that area. But I know it is beneficial. Thank you for doing that. So by third chakra, do you mean the solar plexus? I have blood pressure issues that come and go. My solar plexus has been challenged. I have a strong root chakra. It doesn't manifest the way I think it might. But have always had a problem trusting my gut (solar).

How does muscle testing work with the chakras?

Interesting note . I am going to LOA meetups here locally. I know the guy who is organizing them. He gave a massage in my home several weeks ago and I felt he was a bit of a charlton. So, I hold him at a distance. But both times I have been to these meetups, the same woman sits by me. The first time, she took out a small pendulum and tested her hand to see if she should share her story. She said it said, 'yes', so she shared. I find her quite fascinating. She also used to do some native american rituals, which I just heard as a side note as she was visiting with the guy sitting on the other side of me. He went to a Brazillian thing, with hallucenogenics.. saw crystal butterflies. Whatever.

I think I'm a bit timid about these things. I believe. But that means I believe it works through me. And my self image can't seem to hold up to that. See. Even that sounds lame.

Please share more about your workings.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 08:24 AM
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9. muscle testing
You can read up about muscle testing by doing a search for "applied kinesiology." I would never have guessed that I could do this, but after having so much NAET done, it seems my arm knew when it was going to resist and when it wasn't. Basically mrt (muscle response testing) gives yes/no answers. Usually it is done with arm resistance. I finally learned this part pretty well after I took a Touch for Health class. After I switched NAET practitioners, the second one knew what to test and treat by seemingly doing nothing. But she was doing finger muscle testing--in that case rubbing her finger agaist her thumb and calculating the resistance. I cannot do that. When I started doing the distance work I first used surrogates for arm muscle testing. Then I began using myself as a surrogate and using my body as a pendulum (forward=yes, backwards=no). That's not too hard to practice. Say "the best whole truth is my name is_________" while standing up with your weight distributed in such a way that it is easy to sway front and back. Use your own name, and also the wrong name. Then I just started using a regular pendulum. Now I can flick my fingers, but in a different way from the NAET practitioner.

The second NAET practitioner does distance work, so I just kind of learned that because two of my children live out of town. At first I used a surrogate but now I just use a really simple radionics program I got off Ebay. I actually use this on my husband now because he doesn't like to sit still while I test/treat him.

Yes the third chakra is the solar plexus chakra. Note that depending on where you look there are either seven, eight, or thirteen chakras, though traditionally it is seven. I have diagrams that I use with them expressed each way. The way mrt would work is to ask "Is the solar plexus chakra clear and spinning correctly?" If it is a no then it has to be cleared, aligned and spun. One could either do that by distance or right on the body. One way for you to do it is first take negative energy out of the solar plexus chakra with your hand going in a counter clockwise (unscrewing) motion for, say, forty five seconds or so. Then be sure to put the positive spin back in clockwise (screwing) motion with your hand, for about double the time that you spent taking the negative energy out. This is really very easily done because orgone is so easily manipulated with your hands. Of course this is the way the martial arts all work!! In karate people are taught to weaken the opponent and strengthen themselves through the hand motions. Very cool.

There are all kinds of reasons why people have high blood pressure, but I do feel that many may have third (solar plexus) chakra issues. This may be due to long periods of time when breathing has been too shallow. Slow deep breathing clears all the chakras below the nose--particularly when done with certain yoga postures, of course. That is why yoga is so good for blood pressure, generally. I got my daughter a blood pressure monitor, and she kind of uses it as biofeedback. Most of her problem now seems to be just the stress of getting her blood pressure taken at the doctor's office. Now she mostly knows how to stay calm by breathing deeply, and I keep her third chakra cleared, etc. Sometimes she listens to relaxation things I have on my computer before she goes to the doctor. I'm glad I learned all this energetic stuff because she definitely was having enough problems that her doctor would have put her on medication. She's thin and gets exercise--but high strung.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 10:22 AM
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11. When you mention
"orgone", I know exactly what you're talking about. Willheim Reich lost his life over it, you know?
And it is just energy, freely available to all.

I meant to ask you about the apparatus to gather it, with steel wool? Do you have a link for that? Or?

I'm going to have to give the body pendulum a try. I tried the muscle (kineseology) years ago, but somehow always felt like I was 'cheating'.

I haven't looked up NAET yet. Not familiar with that at all.

Interesting what you say about the martial arts. Have never thought of it that way. I joined Karate with a friend in school several years ago, but the workouts were too much for me. I had to quit. Tai Chi is a marvel, though. It is more strenuous than it looks. I wish I had that discipline.

I'm curious. How do you envision the chakras? Are they spinning in three dimensions? Or upright on one plane? I tend to see them 3-D. And rotating.

Did you check out that site Lil'Dreamer posted? http://www.heathermacauley.com/SLP-intro.htm
I have found the sound healing to be very much a comfort. I'm a visual person, so the fact that sound is getthing through is pretty amazing. Heather's site shows some energy healing.

Thanks for all your information! It is a great encouragement.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 11:04 AM
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13. orgone
A lot of things came together for me to figure out the glass spice bottle, I think(??) For one thing, my NAET practitioner sold a "BRT vial" that looked like a bottle of dirt. It was a glass bottle about one and a half inches long and about a half of an inch wide. She used it on top of my head. I could feel it, and she said it would get my meridians in balance. I bought it for the wholesale price of forty five dollars. Then she started selling it retail. I thought ninety bucks for a bottle of dirt was a bit much!! Of course they said it was from all the volcanoes all over the world, etc. I looked at it and yes there looked to be some quartz crystal in it, and metal pieces, pieces of wood, etc. All of a sudden it hit me that this was an orgone accumulator!! I knew from various sources (any google search) how to make an orgone blanket, so I just made the spice bottle alternating organic and inorganic material (steel wool and real cotton balls).

Now, not everyone needs the spice bottle on top of their head!! They could get too much orgone. One could also use an open pyramid on top of the head because that also accumulates orgone. Get this though........at the time my father in law was in home hospice care for congestive heart failure. He was retaining so much fluid and was on huge amounts of Lasix and another stronger diuretic type thing for fluid retention in his feet and ankles. The feet were always huge, and the whole home hospice thing was to do IV lasix at home so that the fluid retetion could be controlled. He failed at that because his arm could not tolerate it. As soon as I started using the spice bottle on top of his head, he stopped retaining fluid completely. He was able to wean off the extra medication, and cut back the Lasix to 40mg per day, from about triple that. And I am not sure he even needed that much, because the only time he retained any fluid at all after that was when they temporarily put him on cortisone. And to think that the whole reason that they put him in home hospice was for fluid retention!! He did die about a year ago, but he was on home hospice care for a long time--something like two + years. The doctor had to certify that his life expectancy was something like three months to get him the home hospice.

Anyway, that was a very surprising result for a mere spice bottle. If anyone knows someone on Lasix for fluid retention, maybe they can try this to see if it is repeatable.

Oh sure the energy swirls in more than two dimensions, but the corkscrew motion is a close enough approximation to get things moving.

NAET is Nambudripad Allergy Elimination Technique. It has been successful enough that it has started all kinds of people doing energetic treatments of all sorts. There are all kinds of offshoots now, like Neuromodulation Technique (NMT), JMT, and you name it. There is even a Medline indexed study on a very similar technique.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=11302781&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum

It uses electrodermal screening instead of muscle testing for the yes/no--it is most likely just the words that are used for testing, but in a high tech type software device, similar to Biomeridian software.

When you first try a pendulum, or something like that, it does feel like cheating. You just have to move past that. For ages I would cross test it against muscle response testing to make sure I was getting the right answers. And still, arm testing *seems* the most valid to me--even more than electrodermal screening. Basically all this is just a lie detector test.

Yes I checked out the site and downloaded everything and love it. It seems to me she is doing this for marketing purposes and for enough people to visualize it for her to get on Oprah through some sort of group consciousness. Haha. I think that is pretty great idea. Who knows? It might work. I actually wish there were some sort of chanting group around here because I just love to chant!! Binaural beats are a favorite with me too. I like on particularly that gets my brain into sort of a Theta brainwave state.


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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 07:36 PM
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7. What are the weird aspects of NAET?
I had a chiropractor (who was also a scientologist) do some sessions on me a while back. It was pretty good at getting rid of my environmental allergies, not so much the food ones. I know that the NAET wand reminded me alot of the E-meter scientologists use in their 'audits.' What are some of the other strange aspects?
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 08:34 AM
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10. NAET
The Scientologists are into all the energy stuff in a big way. Of course I'm not really a fan because it is such a hierarchical, expensive organization. It doesn't seem like a "religion" to me, either. I think it's a tax thing--keeps their "churches" from having property taxes, etc. It also gives them an out for "treating" people without having a medical license of some sort. There are now so many energetic healing techniques floating around that the state of California gives just about every practitioner a pass, as long as they make sure there are no claims of a person being a licensed practitioner, and releases are signed, etc.

NAET can be described in ways that sound reasonable to normal people. But think about this--it can be done by distance (that is weird). Also it uses "vials" that are imprinted with the electromagnetic signature of the item being tested. So how are those made?? Generally Biomeridian software just prints the name of the item onto the vial.

In fact, if the food stuff didn't work with you, you might try using the actual item instead of the imprinted vial. I was still having trouble with onions until I actually swallowed some raw onion while someone was stimulating my back points. Now I can put all the onion I want on my tacos!
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 10:29 AM
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12. I have to pass on the onions
O+ blood and just not my deal.

What you write here reminds me of a homeopathy group I used to read.
I think the reason I am so over-sensitive to most rx'd medicine, and never take more than one aspirin at a time, is due to my exposure and continued dosing with homeopathics since 1992.

One master level homeopathist wrote that all he had to do was write the name of the remedy on a piece of paper and have the client put it under their pillow. I never tried this. Homeopathy is an energy system. It has never failed in any case that I've seen, even with animals. I happen to need a remedy right now, which is not gnerally available. So, this is worth a try.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 11:28 AM
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14. medication, etc.
Well I am so into mrt that I think any medication should be muscle tested before ingesting. Same with vitamins. Some need to be cleared first before ingesting. This saves me a lot of money on supplements. Recently a new cholesterol lowering drug was being tested by Pfizer (I think??) but it caused so many deaths that it had to be stopped from further testing, right in the middle of the trial. My reaction to this is that they needlessly wasted a whole lot of money, because they should muscle test their little inventions first against a lot of people to see if there is a potential for harm!! Why wouldn't drug companies hire a bunch of people that can do applied kinesiology? I just makes sense!!

Probably I needed a whole onion to clear because I am type O positive as well. I like onions but they sure did throw me for a loop for awhile. I do get a pretty hefty post prandial response to mega carb meals, for sure, like most Type O positives.

Not into homeopathy per se--but I do "charge" water when I think about it. I like to use some of the Emoto pictures for this and also diagrams of the Solfeggio frequencies, etc. When I do it muscle tests much better than from the tap. The remedy on a piece of paper should work, if you think it will work. You could also draw a picture of the bottle. According the "Mind Machine" book I have, anything that makes sense to you should work.
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