Old thread re: sending positive light to the "evil" people?

[freeplessinseattle]

I looked through a few pages but must be too tired to find what I am looking for. It seems so relevent right now, though, and I wonder if anyone else remembers it or knows what I a talking about? The concept of trying to transform our hate and anger at people who have done terrible things, Bush, Ford, etc., and trying to work on sending them positive light instead. which goes against our first instincts but may be more effective then sending out anger, and is definitely healthier to our own selves.

This is something I have been trying very hard to work on, I can literally make myself ill with anger and contempt, and scare myself when I find myself fantasizing about being physically violent towards *, when what I really want is for him to feel deep shame and change his ways. For the last year or so, too, I have been harming myself with anger and resentment towards an ex boyfriend, partially bc of chronic money problems and regret giving him so much money to help him. He is seriously bipolar so I struggle with trying to accept that he is mentally ill and not an evil person, and also struggle with being angry at myself for being too nice. I yearn to be nice to myself and find a balance of peace and banish wishes of ill will.

I can't just ignore news (and have tried to stay away from DU but am addicted!) and feel I would lose more of my humanity if I chose the "ignorance is bliss" path, but don't want to let anger, headaches, vengeful thoughts and insomnia bring me down to their level, or at least hinder my ability to contribute a healthy loving vibe to the world around me. Does this make sense at all? I don't expect, or want, to completely let go of my anger, but to try to replace much of it in an effort to heal myself and emit a more positive vibe around me. I think my cat is sensitive to when I am feeling angry, I pet her to help ground me and focus on giving her loving light, but am afraid she might take on some of my negative energy. I guess that is what has motivated me more than anything, she is elderly and I am afraid of impacting her health and emotional well being with my excess anger, etc.

[rumpel]

1. It makes perfect sense to me

I have quite a bit to comment to your post, but it is so late I have to get some sleep. I promise I will tomorrow, oops, actually today.
Meanwhile, do not worry about your cat - she would not be with you or come to you, if she felt she can't handle it or want it. I have read however that negative energies can transfer over to an animal and manifest in health issues in behalf of you. That is their unconditional love for you. So working on your true inner peace is important.
I have dealt, perhaps still am dealing, with similar issues, albeit it is an ex, who has vowed to destroy me. I do not have anger - I will talk about it some more tomorrow...later

[freeplessinseattle]

2. Thank you, you have helped me feel less chaotic

and more at ease. I do hope that any health issues I have provoked in her can be healed. I need to give her some positive light right now.

I am sorry that you have such destructive energy directed at you from your ex. sometimes I wonder if that is why it is so hard for me to banish these feelings, I didn't even feel love for him near the end of our relationship, so it isn't hurt over lost love, just the drama and inavasiveness into my life and financial well being.

[rumpel]

5. as promised

now that my mind is more awake...

On the first section. I tend to resonate with much as what Dr. Michael Newton discovered, that our souls exist in different realms at the same time. So, our contract with different soul groups, as we are experiencing in this 3-D world, I think I have to deal with at different levels. For instance, if I were to draw circles, one for my immediate soul group, another one that is directly intersecting and many more until you get to the one that encompasses all, but is remote from your own.
Therefore, for me, it is easier to direct light to "evil" or people with "negative energies", who are not in what I perceive as my own soul group. People, such as * et al. First I ask to be empty (empty of expectations, emotions judgments etc) and envision the light of the universe to flow through me, and I tend to envision my soul self on the planetary grid and joining the light of other positive souls, seeking out those negatively vibrating souls to direct the light to.
The closer you get to your "inner circle" the more personal it gets, the more it gets to the issues of your own self growth you wanted, and the contract you have with your other soul group "friends". So different attention has to be given, than to the larger collective "vibrations". Not in a sense of more or less, just different.

Which leads me to your second part. Just a few days ago, I was thinking, in the realm of my contract with my ex, whom I have not physically seen since '93, as antagonist and protagonist, who was to learn what? As we tend to live our lives from the perspective of our own selves and our own needs and wants, maybe, I thought - I was not the lead actor after all. Maybe he was. On a very deep soul level, I also think my daughter. I was merely a supporting role. So, with the help of a wonderful one phrase "my karmic contract is now complete, I forgive and I am forgiven", I finally pieced it together. Of course it does not diminish of what I had to learn, but I now think, he was the beneficiary, if he understood, but he has not and eventually it will backfire. I am still in the middle of dealing with it in the courts, but none of it is out of anger or revenge. I often am appalled at his responses, tactics etc. I have turned it around and am pursuing this for his own benefit and perhaps others, who will be helped by a precedent case in the future. Sure, it would be nice to personally benefit, too, but that is up to the universe - no expectations - maybe a little :)

You say, you are angry at yourself for helping him with money, without any results that you expected. Expectation is something I learned not to attach myself to - try it, this gives me great peace of mind.
On bi-polar. I, too have dealt with someone on a business level. It is heartbreaking, but I had to cut him out, some people don't want to be helped or maybe are not ready. My path has not crossed his since, however I am open should it cross again sometime in the future. But regardless of illness or ill intent of the other party, remember you tried and you did what you thought was best. Again, unless you feel there is more you can do, your karmic contract is complete, you forgive and you are forgiven. Letting go - it takes time, and yet, for me, it happened one day out of the blue. and it re-surfaces - but you know what it is.

my 2 cents

we all have healing energies within so does your cat, I have a feeling you are in fact in a positive state of energy, (intent) more than you think - no harm done.


:grouphug:

[Why Syzygy]

10. That is great, Rumpel

I understand how that statement can set freedom. Please remind us again .. I tend to go fuzzy.
I'm going to put it in my affirmation journal.

My karmic contract is complete. I forgive and am forgiven.
You can do that with anything/one? Right?

Excellent point on expectations, too. I'm getting confused on that an manifestation, tho.
I set intention in September for a healing, without expectations. IOW, I don't know what it will look like, but intend 'healing'. The healing happened, but it is an ongoing commitment to my original intent, no matter what it 'looks like'. I sense that kind of release in you. I find it challenging at times. I get all into expectations and writing the ending. It is a daily spiritual exercise to, just let it be. It is a stretch that feels good.

[rumpel]

11. yes, the difference between expectations and manifestation

I had to balance that, and found that an expectation is in principle a question mark - a wish, the outcome uncertain.

Manifestation is fact, present, it is.

But therein lies my difficulty with manifestation. For example, when your bank account balance is so chronically low, and every time you start feeling you get the grasp of manifestation, the "you can do it" feeling - then you get bills and reminders, but you are to still tell the universe you manifested abundance? I have so far manifested an abundance of bills, and accidental unusual costs. I still have to figure that one out myself. But I also see the point of laws of attraction.
How does one overcome worries, and a state of mind of need? Certainly not by ignoring, or complaining, but by actively doing something. That "something" has eluded me perhaps. I am at it every day. The universe knows my yo-yo, too, which I understand is causing delays.
Manifestation is the most difficult thing I have ever undertaken.

I have to apply "the karmic contract is completed", now on my financial situation, and know it is so.
But I have abundance in everything else, I am totally at peace, most of the time.

The karmic contract thing came from the Holographic Repatterning group session. It was one of the energy readings of the group on the phone that day and really resonated with me.

The healing manifestation is wonderful to hear, votes!

[Why Syzygy]

3. This might be it .

and yes . kits do understand when we are upset. They rebound. Just as we do.

Ho'oponopono
http://www.ancienthuna.com/ho-oponopono.htm
Ho'oponopono means to make right. Essentially, it means to make it right with the ancestors, or to make right with the people with whom you have relationships. We believe that the original purpose of Ho'oponopono was to correct the wrongs that had occurred in someone's life including Hala (to miss the thing aimed for, or to err, to disobey) and Hewa (to go overboard or to do something to excess) which were illusions, and even 'Ino (to do harm, implying to do harm to someone with hate in mind), even if accidental.

It goes like this, and is very effective for self healing, from my experience.
Don't give up.

Repeat and meditate.. and yes, you will give up all anger where he is concerned because this is healing .. Say it to yourself or anyone or no one.

I love you. I am sorry. I forgive you. Will you forgive me. Then ask Divine Love to unravel (heal) anything within you that is causing the painful situation. Divine Love can heal all things.

I like to add, Thank you.

The more you say, Thank you, and I'm sorry to people in real life, the more healing proceeds, in my experience.

I love it.

I am sorry. I love you. I forgive you. Thank you. Ask Divine Love to heal.
I picture Divine love as a pyramid in a circle. The circle is my asking. The pyramid is Love showing up to heal.

edit: I found a way to prounouce this. I could write it but never hope to say it until
H'o . pono . ponopono . Someone told me the Hawaiian language contains only 16 letters . therefore the repetition ..

ps. even in the worst of circumstances, there are things we can find to give thanks for.

[LaurenG]

4. freeplessinseattle I'm positive all of us know what you feel

there is nothing wrong with feelings and that's what your dealing with. Anger is healthy when given the proper outlet. I can tell you've given yourself the same talk I give to myself when I get too angry and don't manage myself well.

If you can put this challenging period of time into perspective by realizing that this too will pass and peace will eventually come, you may be able to get centered. Trust in spirit or whatever you believe in to guide you as it guides us all. We are all in this together we are here not only to "enlighten" ourselves but to bring that light to others. Though you feel very angry it is only a feeling, the truth is you are eternal and limitless, it just doesn't feel like that right now.

Love yourself and forgive yourself and nurture yourself for now. Treat yourself as the cherished being you are, practice being nice to you. Be respectful and forgive yourself of any shortcomings you think you have. You will find that you will be able to forgive others, even bush. The more love you give yourself the more becomes available to others as well.

As for kitties, I read recently that they are one of the species who can handle the energy on the planet right now, I think it's their "detached" viewpoint, kitty can handle it.

I hope you feel better after a good nights rest, many times that's all I need anyway (or a week or two of good night's resting, lol)

:hug:

[I Have A Dream]

6. The only thing that I could find is this thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=245&topic_id=23775&mesg_id=23775

However, I seem to recall another one as well, but I couldn't find it.

[Why Syzygy]

9. whoa ..

I remember when that thread was active. I didn't participate. Was dealing with a LOT of energy draining in my own enviornment. None to spare.

OhioBlues OP is quite interesting. Since that time, I have had opportunity to try to send energy to a closed subject. Something exactly as this happened when I was very new to energy work. Nothing would go in, so I assumed . closed. Somewhere along the way, I learned that the channels (poles) can be reversed. That is to say, when I find the lead in blocked, I channel in reverse, draining the energy into Gaia.

So. Maybe the energy draining in my own life was necessary .... dot dot dot

As far as the linked thread, there may be a lot of ugly stuff that needs to be drained off before Light can enter. Just a thought.

[mondo obscurius]

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[stellanoir]

8. dunno if this is what you are looking for but. . .

I've addressed this issue several times over recent years.

Here's just one example. . .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3569357

best,

[lildreamer316]

12. Here is a great tool to use if you are ready:

...and please; don't read ANY jugement into that. Your feelings are perfectly understandable and it is so good that you are able to identify and see past them; even while they are still there.
This helped me with a personal problem; and while I didn't think it would work; by the time I finished it; I felt much better. I have found in further dealings with the person that I don't get as angry any more.
Please; don't beat yourself up for being too nice. I also have this problem. Better to be too nice than to have been the opposite and put that negative energy out. It will only be to your credit now; and shows that you are a soul filled with love; and on your true path.
Boy I sound preachy. Sorry about that. ANYway:

http://www.radicalforgiveness.com/content/online-tools.asp

[freeplessinseattle]

13. Thank you all so much!

I appreciate all your helpful responses. sorry I have been absent, I've been very tired lately yet unable to sleep well, probably related to these conflicted feelings, but have peeked in an taken your words into consideration. it's funny, lately more and more I feel a sense of pity and embarassment (similar to when watching someone do karoake badly) when seeing pics of bush, combined with an urge to shake some sense into him. maybe that is the beginning of a manifestation acceptance, lol. I'm trying to get to the point of just rolling my eyes at bushco, but not become apathetic (don't think being completely removed is possible, even with a total news blackout). I think I am afraid that if I let go of the anger the sadness it has been replacing will leave me paralyzed, do you know what I mean? maybe it's better than this constant tightness in my stomach and neck (while watching the election returns a deep neck release happened, felt like a long time coming, now if I can just release the rest of the tight muscles bound up in the last 6 years!).

I just want to emanate a more peaceful vibe to contribute a positive light to teh world around me. I am reminded of some years ago when I worked at a domestic violence shelter, it was a constant challenge to put aside the anger aroused when reading the atrocities described in the case files, which was a good motivator, but the people we helped needed a peaceful, tender vibe to be around, and they needed a good example to model. My goal was to get them to a point of acceptance and peace as absent of anger and regrets as much as possible, but that is hard to do when I allow myself to feed into the anger and revenge feelings.

Very helpful ideas everyone, thank you!

[Why Syzygy]

14. You do.

You give a very paeceul pesona. Please do stay and give what you can.

Some of us are high intensity, at least at times.

I was talking to someone today and roasting Bush. Whatever the coversatiion was, I brought it back home to Bush? How do we tolerate that? Don't know that it did any good. But at least I got to name the Problem. I hate him.. I don't like to hate. Was not the way I was taught. BUT I HATE HIM. Hate him. There is no redeemin quality. He is a total loss. Maybe I should have some compassion. But I don't. I hate his fucking guts. He is a killer. So, I hate him.

edit: I don't know how to reconcile this hatred! with my every day loving. I really don't.