I wrote to the author of the above post and heard back:
Dear Cherie,
I tried to log in myself to this thread, but as I am based in Hungary now I
could not be a donor. There are some replies from people who know certain
things about astrology, but I think a couple of things should be cleared up
regarding Indian and Western astrology in respect of Bush and Kerry.
Here is what I tried to post but could not:
Hello there,
This is Kartikeya, I wrote the quoted Bush article, using the insights from
my astrology group. If we do not want to confuse readers at this forum, I
think we ought to add that Indian astrology uses the sidereal zodiac, and a
whole sign house system. Those astrologers who have some experience with
both systems generally find that this is a better basis to predict outside
outcome (such as an election), and former lives, whereas the tropical zodiac
(used by conventional Western astrology) is generally very good at analyzing
a person psychologically, and looking at his personal life cycles.
Sidereally, Saturn is in Cancer from Sept. 05, and will backtrack into
Gemini from January to May, 2005, then reenter Cancer until the spring of
2007. At first glance I also thought that Bush could not win because of his
Saturn return, which falls into his ascendant house Cancer. The thing is
that Cancer is eleventh from his Moon, though. This is excellent for him.
Saturn, after all, lifted him up to be President and curbed his bad habits
in its dasa. Venus is the Lord of 11th from the ASC (the house of the
future), which will make him conceited, but will also bring victories such
as the present one.
I have to remark, though, that the majority of Indian astrologers in India
forecast a Kerry victory - possibly because they have not taken Pluto into
account, and because we based our reading upon nakshatras - or Moon-signs.
DETAILS: Bush's Sun is in Punarvasu (Jupiter), which is where the Moon was
during the first part of Nov. 03. Pluto and Venus are in Aslesha (ruled by
Mercury, which in turn is spoiled by standing with Saturn and Pluto in
Cancer). Of course this is bad for America (Gemini - July 4). Kerry's Pluto
is in Pushya, ruled by Saturn, which is posited in his eighth, retrograde
(Gemini!). A Saturn like that would be also be dangerous enough for America,
although in a different way. Added to this is that Kerry's Saturn is in
Mrigasira (ruled by Mars (retrograde, standing with his Moon and Uranus in
Taurus). That means he would have been forced to make some of the same wars
as GWB for material reasons - the Saturn-Pluto connection led by a
retrograde Mars - and waste resources. The forces are fateful, eighth house
forces. Saturn transits his third house from the Moon - ninth from ASC. This
does not spell a good appearance before the world during an election. Saturn
is in Cancer now, passing over Kerry's Pluto. Pluto is in Jyestha now, a
Mercury Nakshatra, and Kerry is in his Mercury Dasa. This actualizes the
Plutonian potentials in his case, too. There is no way he could escape the
masters who control Bush, he could submit or be killed.
I still think Kerry would not have been as great a difference as he appeared
to be, from the point of view of possible wars and possible economic
calamities. I personally found him very likable, and had it not been for his
horoscope, I would have believed in real change. I actually think any
politicians or leaders in America born between 1932 and 1952 (when Pluto was
in Cancer) are inappropriate presently, while Saturn is in Cancer - they are
deeply tied to oil and radioactivity. The only exception would be members of
the healing profession. The worst leaders are those born between 9/27 1945
and 7/28 1948, who are bound to bring destruction because of Saturn being
conjoined with Pluto.
Regards,
Kartikeya
So.....
The only exception would be members of
the healing profession. Can you spell H-O-W-A-R-D D-E-A-N ?
I think I'm gonna' go cry now.
Cher