Question for the resident astrologers in re: Boss and Worker

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

My boss drives me nuts. He lies, doesn't do work, doesn't provide adequate heat, etc, for workers, and yells and berates us. And then out of the blue every once in a while does something nice. I'm wondering if part of the problem might be astrological. The only reason this firm is still going is because the main tech and I make it happen.

I realize that there is more to a dynamic than sun signs, but that's basically all I know-could you give me a general take on the dynamic from them?

Boss-b. April 7, 1962 in AR

Tech-b. February 27, 1962 in AR

Me-b. February 10, 1951 in MI

[stellanoir]

1. Looking at a three person synastry takes some time but straight off,

may I remind you of the old adage that "the petty tyrant is the final gatekeeper to one's power."

Funny, on that foggy threshold between sleep and wakefulness this morning I was reminded of the last petty tyrant for whom I worked, of whom I hadn't thought in years. She taught me to go back to being self employed.

I was about to repost that wonderfully rich complex "Douglas-Klotz" interpretation of the rather oblique "love thine enemies."

Then I remembered that you were familiar with his stuff and know him.

I'll take a look at the synastry if I find the time though.

Hang in there hon and don't let the suckers get you down.

:grouphug:

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. Thanks for the post

Both the tech and I resort to passive/aggressive actions--me with spending time here (though there's nothing else to do). I've seriously thought of quitting, except there are few jobs out there. Plus, knowing his precarious finances, I'm amazed he hasn't had to shut down yet. I keep thinking this will happen and then I'll get unemployment for a while until I DO come up with a way to be self-employed.

[Cleita]

3. Actually, your boss seems more typical than atypical. There

really aren't as many good bosses out there as most are human with their warts and all out there to be seen. Their psycho baggage just becomes more out there because they are in the spotlight more than if they were just your co-worker. Sometimes it helps to try to get into their skin and experience what pressures they are under that manifest themselves to you as someone who is under their thumb. Where there are good bosses, there are few job openings because people stay on the job because that person makes them like their job with the atmosphere s/he creates. The best thing is to cope with him as you seem like you are already doing and he will move on and you will get a new boss or even get his job and become boss yourself. Nothing stays the same forever.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

4. He's the owner of this small company

That's why his faults are serious, I think. We've lost customers because he's lied to them. I won't lie to customers, even though he's asked me to, and if it comes down to it, I'll quit before I do. He tells us all we are wastrels not working even though he doesn't go out and do hardly any work--I stopped scheduling him appointments because he would say he was going to do a job and then not do it and have me bill them. Customers would call, mad, and I've had to give the job to one of the other techs who is always overworked.

Funny story (and rather sad). Boss had new carpeting installed in our office, and insisted that the one tech come in at 6:30 Monday morning to help him put the furniture back. Tech is at the office at 6:30, waiting, when the boss called.
Boss: "Where are you--still in bed? Get your lazy __ over here to the office!"
Tech: "Where are you?"
Boss: "At the office waiting for you!"
Tech: "That's very interesting since I'm standing in the middle of the office right now, waiting for you!"
Boss: Hung up. Never came in to help. Tech brought in my desk, but that was all. Spent the day bringing back in what I could. Office still not back to normal.

[Cleita]

5. That's hard when it's a small company and he's the boss.

I've worked for people like that. However, change does come. Trust me. One place I worked at was like that and it was us the workers who did keep his business together although he never appreciated it. However, he had a heart attack one morning that killed him. The widow sold the business to another larger company and we were folded into their operation because we were able to keep the business going without a boss. The widow had something viable she could sell.

You may find that he runs it into the ground and goes out of business, not good for you guys, or he may sell out because he's going bankrupt. So many things can happen. Just keep going the best you can, but you could be shopping around for another job. This is what I usually did if I really couldn't stand the place I was working at or if I thought the business was going to collapse. It kept me from being unemployed and going crazy.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

6. Your last scenerio most likely

and yes, I've already got a part time job and I do web design/maintenance on the side. I am also keeping on the good side of all the small businessmen in town-I've gotten praise for my work from some of them. Figure that can't hurt anything. Preparing for a bankruptcy and a lay-off, and have been for a couple of years.

Thanks for the kind words and thoughts.

[okasha]

7. Cleita's right.

You need to be looking for another job. I got away from a tyrant department head--homophobic, sexist, racist, bone lazy but happy to take credit for other people's accomplishments--this last summer, and I'm still recuperating from the stress. It's one of those things that feels so good when it stops that you can't quite figure out how you stood it so long.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

8. Want to hear something funny?

I just got a call from a customer, who spontaneously said, "If you ever want a job, call me." Maybe its a sign?

[okasha]

9. Wouldn't hurt at all to start preparing the ground.

Just a piece of advice from experience--when you do make the move, make it quickly. Give your two weeks' notice if that's required, but make it shorter if it's not. For departmental budgetary reasons, I had to move in one week, but it was as miserable a week as the s. o. b. could make it.

[Cleita]

10. I would follow up on that if I were you.

Be discreet though and make sure the customer keeps it discreet in case things don't work out.

[Chemical Bill]

16. I agree with Cleita. n/t

[rosesaylavee]

11. I had one of those.

Perchance is alcohol a part of the problem with him? What you describe is a stereotypical untreated alcoholic.

My boss yelled at people alot and usually (or especially) those who felt powerless against him or were beholden to him for a paycheck or he was their lucrative vendor account. Drove me crazy as I am a 'rescuer' type and would insert myself between him and them to shield them from his fits. Never could tolerate bullies. Not good for me and they sure did miss it when I left. Such anger, such unreasonable behavior is usually accompanied by people stricken with alcoholism. Untreated, they will only get worse and their health will finally deteriorate as their jobs and lives are torn apart. Untreated alcoholism is fatal and bloody awful for all surrounding humans effected by the untreated alcoholic. It will not go away until the alcoholic recognizes he/she is on the downward spiral toward death and losing everything of value to them.

I recommend you pray for him and get yourself outta there ASAP.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

13. No

He doesn't drink. Chews tobacco and spits it everywhere and gambles at the Indian casinos over the line in Oklahoma, but that's about it as far as vices go.

[skater314159]

12. I will do a chart and analysis for you...

... and mail it to your box here on DU. Is that cool?

skater pi

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

14. Very cool

Thank you!

[ricochetastroman]

15. Neptune is right on your Sun

that is what is "causing" this right now. A very difficult thing to translate.
Look to inner guidance when Neptune is around... I find that it is SCREAMING at you and maybe not being heard.

I wish you the very best of luck, I looked at your boss' chart and he seems quite infantile, possibly.

You'll get thru this...

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

17. thanks for the information

I've been trying hard to listen to inner guidance, that's for sure. Think I took it yesterday, when I finally picked up my mail and found a summons to jury duty--for yesterday. I panicked, but inner guidance said not to, it would be all right, just let it be. And I did so, after a few deep breaths! :) This morning, I found out that jury duty was canceled for yesterday anyway, and everything was fine. I felt it was a test for me, though--a test to see if I was listening and following inner guidance.

As for your description of my boss--not possibly, probably.