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The Blue Flower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:21 AM
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Questions for numerologists
1) What's the meaning of the number 20?

2) What's the meaning of the number 32?

Thanks.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:33 PM
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1. Well, to me, 20 (2 +0 ) = 2. 2 is about harmony, couples,
and duality. One "half" of the 2 is light, health, wealth, goodness, etc., and the other is about darkness, cold, poverty, death. I associate 2 with the moon, moods, and for that reason, illusions and/or dishonesty.

When I look at 32, I come up with 5 (3 + 2). 5 is about creativty, adventure, and adversity. I associate 5 with Jupiter, and so with growth and change.
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The Blue Flower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:45 PM
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2. Thanks
Interesting implications for me.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:10 PM
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3. what about 2005?
;) my address
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:59 PM
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4. 2 + 5 = 7. 7, to me, is about study, knowledge, introspection, solitude and mystery.
I associate it with Saturn, and so with seriousness, gloominess, sometimes depression. The energy of 7 is perfect for philosophers, scholars, poets, artists and intellectuals. But it can include adversity as well (usually of the Saturnesque, uber-frustrating variety).
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:26 PM
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6. That's interesting BI
I've always seen 4 as Saturnine and 7 as Uranian.

So go figure.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:57 PM
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7. The way I learned about numerology, (not the only or "correct" way, of course)
4 is Mercurial, and 8 is Uranian.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:26 PM
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8. thank you !
that seems to fit our place pretty well. There's a medical researcher and a writer/artist in residence, both attached to a university. There are sometimes visiting academics & assorted intellectual types around and a lot of work takes place at home. It is studious and work-oriented around here even on weekends. There is a lot of Sagittarian and Scorpionic energy in the birthcharts. Also Pluto activating progressed charts.

The house, though near a town, is a bit off the beaten track, in a relatively isolated patch of woods. Adversity of the 'Saturnesque' kind has indeed followed us here. A major remodel went south, a windstorm did terrible damage, an esteemed visitor from a foreign country mentally derailed, necessitating their ejection...disturbing things like that have occurred routinely over the past ten years. We're used to it, sort of. I'm developing this theory that this place is ve-ry particular about who is here, and even we have to be careful. Sometimes the place seems to repel (or eject) certain people quite suddenly. I know that sounds crazy but others have noticed it. Anyway it's clear to me that we are merely residents instead of owners. Sometimes it feels as if we are being tested to the core of our beings here. Mysterious things have happened, particularly to do with interactions with nature. I haven't put it all together yet. This place looks ordinary but is full of surprises.

I guess we're in the right place for us. :hi:
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 08:29 PM
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5. I'm not a numerologist, but have thought about the numbers a good deal.
Most of the time the meaning can be described in a straightforward way. As with all symbols the meaning of the various numbers would vary for the individual.

But here goes for me for what it's worth, and probably not very much:

1. is like the first impulse, an action by itself without obstruction or balance, just a simple action. As such it's male in sense or yang, but of course all the energies are in all people, male only in the traditional sense of action or outward expression. Do in music.
2. is a balance, an accepting or balancing, feminine, nurturing or obstructive (necessary to cause the first impulse to retain and build). Re in music.
3. brings in a third or neutralizing influence, the spiritual influence. The third influence is catalytic and necessary for the fruitful expression of 1 and two. the triangle balancing body and mind with spirit. Ouspensky & Gurdjieff said that no manifestation or expression is possible in the earth without this third neutralizing force. For procreation e.g. it's not enough to have a male and a female. You need a spark, love, that old black magic, whatever. Mi in music.
4. is the enclosing of the triad that makes up the way the first impulse has played itself out in the earth. 4 is an earth number, the four sides or directions, four-square. It's a good symbol of materiality. Between 3 and 4 there is a pause. It's necessary to have some sort of additional energy added here. This is the half-step in music to fa. To get from the spiritual 3 to the earthly or material 4, takes a special kind of energy or the initial aim can easily go off track.
5. is a one added into materiality, so it's like action but now grounded in the earth. Activity, energy in the earth. Sol in music
6. is obstruction again, the addition of an addional force again, similar to a 2 in some ways, great danger of the earth energies being wasted or diverted because of this obstruction. 66 is even more unbalanced and sort of out of whack and 666 is even more so. The addition of numbers adds to the power of the state. La in music.
7. Again gains power and balance from an additional spiritual catalytic neutralizing force. A 7 is like physical mastership in a sense, a truly balanced being in the earth. Real power of expression, the human being in the earth, the 7 chakras, the 7 days and night of creation in the earth, etc. The numbers from here to 12 and above represent reaching higher toward the universal aspects.
8. Again the half-step from si or ti to do requires an extra energy to develop further and the danger is great of going off at a tangent or in a wrong direction. But 8 can also be a rounding off, a firming up, a double earth number (4+4).

etc. 12 is total mastership in a way it seems to me, representing all side of a person, the 12 signs of the zodiac, the 12 apostles, etc.

The 20 asked about in the post could be a stronger two because of the zero, obstruction at a mental level maybe or a possible coming of balance, the entering in of a second force, accepting and nurturing perhaps or obstructing, depending on the context or attitude that is to come (the 3rd force). A 32 would be a 5, activity in the earth coming and balanced by the triangle or spiritual base of the 3, outward activity, but based on a spiritual frame or foundation.

To me when numbers appear in dreams they are reflecting both the individual person's feelings about the numbers and the universal language of numbers. I think numerology is close to music, showing the way different levels of energy interact.

But I've had some really weird numbers show up in dreams. And they're always very specific too. I go to a restaurant in a dream e.g. and pay exactly $13.45 for the meal. This was just made up, but the order of the numbers would be important if this were a real dream, a 1, then a 3, then a 4, then a 5 and also the total of the number 1+3+4+5 = 13 or 4 an earth number, but also an action 1 plus a spiritual purpose, etc.

It's fascinating but I really think each person has to interpret this for self based on reading and thought and the situation. Anything like numbers or dreams or astrology or whatnot has to be used for our own purposes so it's more important what the individual thinks about the numbers than what somebody else says about it. Our purpose would determine whether or how the power of the numbers would work or express or interact.

It's interesting that natural memory experts (like the Russian psychologist Luria's expert "S" in his book about him, THE MIND OF A MMEMONIST (?), something like that) often automatically associate colors and sounds and shapes with numbers too, as if there's a kind of universal bank of symbols within us that these people are sensing that connects everything and makes it all relate.
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