More Neptune and the Candidates

[ccpup]

One thing that struck me as I glanced at my now-dizzying array of charts is that, first of all (and this isn't news to me. Is it to you?), the US Neptune is conjunct Barack's Mars. So, we, as a country through our Media (the US Neptune), tend to not see clearly the aggressive ambition he has preferring, instead, to see him in a manufactured, heavily stage-managed light.

This US Neptune is also inconjunct (or 30 degrees) from Hillary's Saturn so there is an inherent, although not impossible to breach, tension and need for recalibration the Media has with regards to her authority or her CEO-like wonkishness -- as well as sextile her Mercury/Ascendant. So (in light of the sextile), with work and a common goal, we, the People -- and the Media -- would understand where she's coming from, even if she doesn't drape it in gossamer and push it into a spotlight in front of screaming, crying, fainting fans.

But there will always be -- with this Neptune also opposite her Moon -- this need to find balance between what we expect a woman to be (her Moon) and what she is actually is, shifting by the necessity of finding balance this opposition demands of us our Neptune fantasy of who a woman "should" be. But, surprisingly, with her Moon quincunx her Saturn by one degree, she has -- or at least had -- her own battles with who she is as a "woman" and her natural leadership ability, something which may surprise her critics.

But this US Neptune is now receiving the same transit, being conjunct Barack's Mars, that Barack is receiving: the quincunx.

Tension, not being on the same page, not clearly understanding the needs or wants of the other and facing the irritating necessity of having to actually work to find some common ground. And really not liking it one bit.

So, how might this manifest? It goes back to my growing suspicion that the Press -- in the form of this Neptune -- will find itself in a suddenly tense situation with Barack as they begin the long-overdue and necessary process of questioning what exactly he's saying and what he means when he says it, peeling away strip-by-painful-strip the Neptune element of his candidacy he's relied so heavily on.

It could also indicate his moving into the unfamiliar waters of Policy Talk, Facts and Figures and the Press comparing what he offers -- and asking him about it in more detail -- with what Hillary offers. Not exactly the Neptune "let me inspire you" comfort zone Barack prefers and has grown accustomed to like a second skin. And once he leaves these warm waters of Neptune's embrace, stumbles onto the sand and into the glare of Saturn World -- policy, details, work, work, work --, it'll be twice as difficult to retreat back into the ocean once the going gets rough. It could even look evasive! (very Neptune)

This US Neptune is also inconjunct (30 degrees) Hillary's Moon, so work will be done there as well, but not -- by nature of the transits at work -- of the nature that Barack is facing. Although both aspects speak of not being on the same page, the chasm separating those planets in quincunx (150 degrees) and those inconjunct (30 degrees) is much greater. My thoughts are that perhaps after the rude spanking he's given her Saturn recently, Hillary's Pisces Moon (in a natal trine with her Mercury and Ascendant) will begin the tentative process -- with the inconjunct -- of daring to dream again?

Oh, and before I forget: Hillary's Saturn is 3 degrees from conjunct the US Neptune, so it's no wonder those who wish to be inspired find her the authoritarian buzz kill to their Neptune Fantasies.

But the quincunx this Neptune is now receiving from, well, himself may recalibrate the Voters away from the gossamer and spotlight and back to the real work and real details the next President will be facing on -- you see this coming a mile away, don't you? oh, of course you do -- Day One.

[ccpup]

1. synchronicity at work

after I posted this, I noticed a startlingly Neptune-like headline from today:

"Vaporous Obama Turns Off Many Centrists"

Vaporous? Can't get more Neptune than that!

here's a link for anyone who's interested:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/political_commentary/commentary_by_froma_harrop/vaporous_obama_turns_off_many_centrists

[Why Syzygy]

2. Please watch these and then

get back to me about manufactured, heavily stage-managed light


Hillary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvyGydc8no

Obama:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVlZZdxZ9AU

* I may finish reading the OP after I stop shaking. I got to that line and stopped.
Please do me the favor of watching the posted videos.

[ccpup]

5. shaking? really?

I apologize that four words -- one of them hyphenated, so I'm not sure if that actually counts as two words, so it may be five --made you react so unfortunately.

I think what I was trying to convey with "those words" was the overtly Neptune flavor one has found and continues to find in Barack's speeches as compared to those Hillary makes. His talk of change and hope, of believing in yourself and that "yes we can" is more Neptune that not.

Hillary makes her half-hearted stabs at inspirational rhetoric, but falls short simply because she's aware of the reality of what she'll inherit as President and, in my view, doesn't want to paint herself into a rhetorical box she'll later be lambasted for. To promise the Moon and find yourself only able to realistically offer a step-ladder two feet high because of forces -- Congress, Senate, problems hidden by the previous Administration even greater than you anticipated, World Events -- beyond your control would surely lead to understandable anger and loss of confidence in your abilities. (See Governor Patrick, Deval -- first two years of his Governorship in Massachusetts)

Her diligent Saturn square Mercury/Ascendant square just won't make soaring promises she may not be able to keep. That aspect insists on facts, figures and policy-speak.

Anyway, I do appreciate you offering the videos -- they made me cringe, but that's certainly not your fault -- and do apologize for giving you such a visceral reaction with my words. I hope you can find it in you to read the rest of the OP sometime. You may disagree, but perhaps there will be something you'll find interesting?

[saracat]

10. That Hillary video wasn't done by the campaign and it is lame as for the obama stuff, you are

contrasting a lame fan video with CNN Obama footage??????? I just don't get your point.Sorry.

[Why Syzygy]

12. The point

is valid. I wasn't comparing the VIDEOS. It's the presentation ...

OP stated:
So, we, as a country through our Media (the US Neptune), tend to not see clearly the aggressive ambition he has preferring, instead, to see him in a manufactured, heavily stage-managed light.

I believe the two contrasting videos refute that premise. Think about it.

I've heard at least two cliche's she has used in Texas. In El Paso, she said , all hat and no cattle. The only person who can say that and not come off as a hack is Ann Richards. Hillary ain't no Ann Richards. Hillary also said, while in Houston .. yada yada, then Houston we really do have a problem. We don't say that in TEXAS. It is lame, commercial spew. My point to OP was that it sure isn't Obama with the "manufactured, heavily stage-managed light".

Sara, I've seen you post in GDP. I do not post the same here. I have most of these astrology threads hidden. But if I read something here that makes me shake, I probably will have something to say about it.

[saracat]

13. But even if I agree with your point, which I don't , the videos are

apples and oranges. As someone who has been a media advisor, I can tell you that both candidates have been "manufactored" but Barack much more so than Hillary. that is another reason Barack doesn't do as well "off the cuff" . But whatever. You are entitled to your opinion. Perceptions can vary.

[Why Syzygy]

14. They certainly can.

And I still disagree with the OP.

[PinkTiger]

42. If you aren't into our astrology threads, and hide them,

then why do you feel justified in hijacking them? I'm offended. I'm alerting.

[Why Syzygy]

46. Isn't that special.

[PinkTiger]

47. I thought so, yes. nt

[Why Syzygy]

49. It isn't so much the astrology as it is the subject . the PRIMARY

elections. In spite of the encouraging behind the scenes support ccup is getting, personally I'm beginning to feel like he is spamming the group with material that has no place here and is contrary to the group's stated mission.


He has no less than six active threads on this topic.
I think they should be moved to GDP.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=245&topic_id=63222

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=245&topic_id=63998

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=245&topic_id=64310

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=245&topic_id=64192

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=245&topic_id=65462

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=245&topic_id=65274

This may make enemies here. I hope not. But given the very real possibility that I will no longer post at DU if McChillary gets the nom, I have nothing to lose. Bless you all.

[PinkTiger]

51. Well, since you obviously feel so strongly about this, why don't you

put his threads on ignore? In the meantime, the rest of us seem to like the threads where they are. So get over it.
You are starting to get on my last nerve.

[okasha]

15. Don't undertake to speak for all of Texas, please.

I've heard both expressions frequently from fellow Texans--"Houston, we have a problem" most frequently from the techies in MIS.

'Course, we're not what you acknowledge as "mainstream" Texans down here on the border. Maybe we jus' don' habla ingles too good, huh?

[Why Syzygy]

16. Over use of cliche's are

a poor form of communication. I don't care who uses them.

[okasha]

17. It are?

n/t

[saracat]

18. Well, okay, I was talking about the videos but I also disagree about presentation

But they I don't care for a manufactured preacher persona no matter who does it. You were the one that presented the videos and I offered my opinion in response. There is some Hillary stuff I don't like either. Both candidates have done some cringe worthy publicity but IMHO Barrack has cornered the market on a "manufactured" persona. But again, I am aware we do not agree. That is my perception.It doesn't work for me.

[Why Syzygy]

19. I'm really sorry you had to stir this up in ASAH.

I never thought this group would be the source of my ignore list.

[saracat]

20. Stir what up? I merely responded to you. And discussed the video.

the thread topic was an astro analysis that you took exception to I guess. You posted about the video, I responded. You said it was about "presentation". I responded. Do I have to agree with you? No one was offensive. I don't know why you are angry.

[Celebration]

26. LOL

Hillary is going for the vote of the "Up, Up with People" Crowd. Evidently they didn't go for it because the video got one star.

[Cleita]

3. Thanks ccpup.

I appreciate all the work you are doing for us.

[Coyote_Bandit]

4. .

Just wanted to say thanks for the work you do posting this information. I'm little more than a novice in astrology. At best. I enjoy reading your posts then watching to see how they play out. It may be one of the most interesting aspects of this election cycle IMHO.

The only other thing I really find interesting about this election is trying to prognosticate the changing political alliances among voters. There are three strong cnadidates left standing. Each appeals to a different demographic and psychographic group. None seem to appeal to the far right and the fundies. I suspect after the votes are tallied in November that both Dems and Repubs will find that they gained and lost some of their traditional constituencies. I suspect that some of the far right will defect and not support McCain. I also suspect that some in the Hillary demographic will vote for McCain rather than Obama. Likewise I feel that some in the Obama demographic would refuse to support Hillary should she get the nomination. I suspect that there are demographic and psychographic patterns that could identify these "defectors". If these patterns hold we may be seeing a change in political alliances with long term implications. One of the most significant of those implications might be the loss of political power by the fundies. However, both major parties seem to be facing signficant issues unifying their various factions to vote for their nominee. Perhaps there are astrological implications with regard to these alliances. I don't know.

As I've said before I do not care for any of the remaining candidates. Don't like 'em. Don't trust 'em. Don't feel they represent my interests. Sure, I can find something I like and dislike about all of 'em. But, personally, I don't find any of 'em inspiring or motivating. They don't speak to me. They don't address my concerns and priorities in practical terms that will benefit me.

While I will vote for the Dem nominee I am simply not invested in the outcome of this election. From where I sit, the remaining candidates are remarkably interchangeable.

[LWolf]

7. Whatever demographic I belong to is not one that any of the three

appeals to. The only difference I have with your take is that I don't see myself casting a vote for any of them in November.

I don't know how that plays out astrologically, either.

[ccpup]

6. John McCain

Talk about Neptune and the Events of the Day!

The slinky, foggy, sly bugger is newly quincunx McCain’s Venus and trine his Chiron. (Note: I’m of the belief that although trines are easy, they may not always be good) And with this Natal Chiron square his Natal Venus as well as SP Venus moving into both an opposition (still 2 degrees 07 minutes from exact) with this natal Chiron as well as 2 degrees 12 minutes from a square with his Natal Venus, one could say Miss Iseman -- very Venusian herself -- was perhaps in the Stars.

And in light of the current Mars Transit quincunx his Moon, it’s a safe bet to say John ain’t too happy about this current Breaking News. But one doesn’t need to be an astrologer to know that, right?

With Neptune involved, I trust there's more to the story we don't know, that some of the allegations may turn out to not be what they first seemed -- due to the foggy nature of Neptune -- and that this is not going away anytime soon.

[mother earth]

9. I know you see things changing and Hillary looking happier after

the election, but are you as sure there are no happy aspects in the chart of McCain after the election? (It would be nice to have confirmation of a dem win.)

I'm curious to see how it all plays out after the fourth, some are saying she might bow out if she doesn't do well. I'm also really wondering why Dean is not encouraging a unity ticket, I don't think we have to look at charts to know there are going to be a lot of disenfranchised people, either way this plays out.

I too can't wrap my heart around either, but I trust at least that we can weather the emerging storm with Hillary, and I wonder about the quickly deteriorating economy coming into play with a change in the wind that might explain a benefit to Hillary.

(Edited to thank you, ccpup, I love your updates!)

[stellanoir]

8. Okay pal

This is all very interesting. Yet I beg to differ on a few points.

I feel the media and the internet are both ruled by Uranus.

Neptune has far more to do with our toxic celebrity culture which pervades the media.

Neptune being in Uranus' sign and Uranus being in Neptune's sign sorta confuses things for sure.

When looking at the chart of America please consider looking at the charts for The Articles of Confederation (November 15, 1977, 7:52 pm LMT, York PA) and the ratification of the Constitution (June 21, 1778, 1 pm LMT, Concord Pennsylvania) as well.

The theory is that though the Declaration of Independence chart is "a statement of intent," we were still at war and nothing was formed and the document wasn't signed by all the signatories until late August of that year. Nothing was formed.

You know I'm only trying to confuse you further.

Just Kidding.

:grouphug:

[ccpup]

22. I understood that Neptune was traditional media

with Uranus ruling the newer eg. Internet forms of media. Whatever it rules, Neptune is now doing a number on Barack's energetic Mars and Michelle's "I thought we had this in the bag!" Saturn.

Then again, what do I know? I'm still in the midst of a Tr Pluto t-square to my Sun/N.Node and Jupiter/Uranus. Add Tr Mars to the mix and we get a lovely Grand Cross! Is that why I'm being kept up at night feeling either A) like an utter, complete failure at life as I round up to another birthday or B) like I want to be a professional kickboxer if only to feel the crunch of bone under my feet?

Nope, no issues here. :evilgrin:

[stellanoir]

25. I find it interesting that in recent years

with Uranus's passage through Aquarius and now Neptune's, we've wound up with a plethora of those god awful so called "reality" that celebrate and reward the worst of human behaviors in the place of many fictional sitcoms and dramas, and things like Faux News which are largely fictional, and suppression of really important issues through all corporate news outlets.

So there has been a blurring and a reversal of truth and fiction.

Most conventional wisdom is that Neptune relates to the movies, music, art, etc., yet with Neptune still in Aquarius there are indeed Neptune like qualities to the media now for sure.

Do you have a birth time and place for Michelle ?

And how about C) Move into your power and get your butt in gear and leap over dem bones.

[ccpup]

28. you too funny, Stella

I actually woke up in C), so no worries there. I am an Aries, after all, so the Pity Party doesn't ever last too long before I get bored with it and get back to work.

As for Michelle, no birth time available. What I do have, though, is January 17, 1964 in Chicago. Without a birth time, I ignore aspects to angles and anything in aspect to the Natal Moon 'cause it may not BE the Natal Moon, you know?

But Neptune on Saturn? That's not gonna change with a different birth time. Neither is Tr Chiron square Natal Neptune or Saturn station opposite Venus.

[stellanoir]

29. Looks as though Mikey's got it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-lutin/michelle-obama-the-ultim_b_89544.html

Do you want me to ask him for it or do you want to?

http://www.michaellutin.com/dailyfix.htm

[ccpup]

30. please, be my guest

Mikey makes my skin crawl, for some reason.

[stellanoir]

31. He's no lightweight and he is really sardonic but can be scathingly funny.

[saracat]

11. Very interesting take.Thank you, ccpup.

[katty]

21. the many faces of Neptune

you write:

> (re: Obama) process of questioning what exactly he's saying and what he means when he says it, peeling away strip-by-painful-strip the Neptune element of his candidacy he's relied so heavily on.

Indeed, in my view this "Neptune" effect that has assisted the almost dreamlike, hollywood-esque rise to stardom is now morphing into a bit of a backlash of having to 'get real' with him, what exactly IS he saying and how does he/others DEFINE what he is all about.

[ccpup]

23. now with the Press Corps --

who had been tame little kitty cats for the most part with Barack -- demanding actual answers to difficult questions (the Canada/NAFTA confusion, the Rezko issue -- which caused Barack to storm out of a Press Conference today), we're beginning to see the Neptune mask fall away and voters are beginning (as Mars makes a move into Cancer, the sign trine Hillary's Sun, and Mercury continues it's direct motion) to second-guess their earlier support of him.

I'm beginning to think the longer she's in this, the more people -- in light of the beating from the Press she's gotten and the tidal wave of "Obamamania" she's had to contend with -- will begin to admire her determination and fortitude, eventually thinking 'heck, if she can withstand all that, perhaps she IS the better choice to clean this Bush mess up".

Whatever the case, as we head into mid-March Hillary has Tr Saturn first trine her Progressed Sun (beginning the same day Mars is trine her Natal Sun) and then sextile her Natal Sun before he moves in mid-April to square Barack's Moon and oppose Michelle's Venus. Then that nasty bugger -- and I say that with the utmost respect, oh dear taskmaster Saturn -- stations and vibrates until the end of April and throughout May in that sextile to Hillary's Sun, square to Barack's Moon and opposition to Michelle's Venus.

Something happens between now and then that creates a situation where Hillary feels "better" and more supported (Saturn sextile Sun) and Barack feels "depressed and frustrated" with an inability to move forward (Saturn square Moon) and Michelle feeling her relationship -- or the object of her affections -- being "attacked" without an ability to control or prevent it (Saturn opposite Venus).

Could it be the Neptune mask falls further for Barack and people start trending back to Hillary culminating in a lopsided win for her in Pennsylvania on April 22nd?

I don't know. Only time will tell.

[katty]

32. it's hard to be down with Sat Sextile her Sun, it's a positive

jolt of optimism - Barack's 'performance' with the press yesterday did not help his case--the weakness of that Neptune on his ASC - the veil of Neptune was pushed away at the worst moment. This Thursday, New Moon in Pisces conjunct Uranus (near Hillary's natal moon?) could bring some interesting twists. +Concur with you-re: your paragraph #2.

[rosesaylavee]

24. As long as you are taking a look, what does Gore's chart look like

'bout now through August? I understand he is trying to play peacemaker with these two behind the scenes. And Eleanor Clift said recently that she thinks if this goes to convention, he would be on the second ballot.

:hide:

[Celebration]

27. What aspect in Hillary's chart

Caused her to make the statement that she and McCain both had the right experience to be President, but that Obama only had speeches?

[Why Syzygy]

33. I would like to know what makes her do this >

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4873307

[Coyote_Bandit]

34. Issues

of race, gender, age and class are in play in this election as reflected by the clear demographic differences between Obama supporters and Hillary supporters.

These issues are used to motivate and manipulate people every day - in ways both subtle and offensive. We are most inclined to follow people who are like us. We tend to agree with people we know and like. We like people who are physically attractive, who are similar to ourselves, who extend compliments, and who are associated with positive experiences. Those are long-standing well documented human behavioral traits and you can study them in any class on persuasion or marketing or consumer behavior. They play out in unfair and ugly ways every day.

Personal views give rise to perceptions resulting in judgments. Sometimes those perceptions are completely divorced from reality and lacking a factual basis. Perception become more important than reality. And when it does we attribute behaviors, attitudes, and intentions to others without knowing them to be true.

I don't know if you've noticed but there have been a number of images of Hillary that are less than flattering. McCain too. Using gender or age to portray someone in a less than flattering light is just as offensive as using race. Is it fair? No, but then, unfortunately, neither is life. Is it unexpected? No. This country has a long history of depicting political candidates and politicians in an unflattering manner.

For the record, I don't like either Hillary or Obama. Or McCain. Or Nader. Or any or the other remaining candidates. They all give me pause and all all have their own weaknesses.

[Celebration]

38. Flattering, unflattering

Okay, that makes sense to use an unflattering picture of an opposing candidate--

But PHOTOSHOP? We are talking about deliberately altering a photo, to make the candidate look more black. I, too, want to know what aspect of her astrology chart indicates that she will stoop to these tactics.

We are talking not only about DARKENING the image.......

We are talking also about broadening the image.......... notice the blacker Obama is the same height, but broader than the real Obama.

Until the last week, I liked Hillary. But this is intolerable behaviour no matter what her sign. I absolutely loathe playing to racism.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4911315&mesg_id=4912636

[Coyote_Bandit]

39. Ummmm

Haven't we seen enough nastiness from supporters in all the campaigns to be less than surprised to find that one of them may have had the ill intent to manipulate images in a way that benefits their candidate? Could this be the graphic version of McCain's John Hagee problem. Or maybe Obama's Donny McClurkin problem.

I haven't got a clue whether any candidate was personally involved or had actual knowledge of the manipulation of any image - whether to enhance their own physical attractiveness or to make an opponent look weaker, older, darker, paler or otherwise less desirable. These are equally offensive to me. And I suspect that have all occurred during this campaign.

I may not like any of the candidates - but I will not attribute motives and actions to them personally when I have nothing to indicate they had actual knowledge of such offensive actions before they occurred.

Never mind the fact that there are rational explanations that do not require any attribution of ill intent.

Do you really think the Hillary personally directed that image be darkened? Sorry. I don't buy it. And I don't think Obama hates gays or believes in ex-gay programs. And McCain doesn't believe all the Hagee nonsense.

[Celebration]

40. no, I don't think that

But I do feel that she is responsible for the tenor of her campaign, and the people that serve under her. And, yes I feel it was purposeful.

Having said that, neither one of them should be responsible for supporters that happen to also be nutcases. Both of them have some of those.

[Coyote_Bandit]

41. Plenty of nutcasses to go around it seems - unfortunately

I really wish I could be more excited about a candidate. This long drawn out ugliness is not wearing well here. While there are other candidates I would have preferred I will vote for the Dem nominee.

For now, I wish the candidates would just go somewhere and make their own deal. No, I'm not necessarily looking for a unity ticket. Just some unity. I don't see it now. And I think the longer the rancor hangs around the more difficult the reconcilliation and mutual support will be in the general election. These candidates have the support of different demographic groups - and the votes of all those groups will be important in November. I also think continuing this fight for several more weeks will require resources that might better be used in the genral election.

[Coyote_Bandit]

48. In case you haven't seen it

The New Republic has posted an article regarding the race baiting issue:

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=aa0cd21b-0ff2-4329-88a1-69c6c268b304

I won't post any excerpts. I'm posting the link because I thought you might be interested. Be warned it doesn't portray anyone in a particularly positive light. It is an interesting take on the campaign - but I couldn't stomach reading the whole thing.

I really fear that deep and long lasting divisions in the Democratic party are being forged - something that does not bode well for the future.

[Why Syzygy]

45. This is how I read the atmosphere too

and it bothers me. Just par for the course. All in the game. I'm sure that some percentage of Americans actually get a thrill from seeing this. Some percentage applaud it. A large portion excuse it. That observation makes me terribly sad.

[okasha]

43. I've seen pictures of Obama, presumably un-Photoshopped,

that show him both shades illustrated above and everything in between. Now, I'm not a mindreader, but I am a semi-pro photog and rather handy with Photoshop. It looks to me as though someone has attempted a quick fix on the orange tones in Obama's skin by using the yellow-blue adjustment and pushing the slider too far toward the blue end. If you look at the whole frame, it's all shifted toward blue--face, tie, background, the works. It's an admittedly clumsy job; instead of jaundiced, Obama now looks oxygen-deprived. But it's a large leap from "clumsy" to "malicious" and an even larger one to Hillary having "done" the Photoshopping.

[PinkTiger]

44. Have any of you considered that a plan of action may be in force?

Right now it is a good time to bring out all the negatives and get them in the open to disarm the republican machine, no matter who wins. So Hillary is playing by the GOP playbook, and vice versa.
Remember, this is a very important, high stakes game of gotcha.
Don't take it so personally.

[okasha]

35. Keep up the good work, ccpup!

You're hitting them out of the park.

[mother earth]

36. Seems like you are right on, ccpup, esp. after last night. I think

too many were counting her down and out, just like you said, and surprise, surprise...I'm amazed at how well you have called this. It is interesting to watch this begin to play out.

[katty]

37. yes, spot on...now barack is on the defensive

[Celebration]

50. All this sounds like

Obama's campaign may need to release some entities from its energetic field! Sounds like the planets are hexing him here. Hmmmmmm.

[Why Syzygy]

52. that might be something to follow up on ..

do you have any ideas on doing that? Count me in. pm if needed. I've been feeling jittery several days this week. There are a number of reasons. But I have some nervous energy to help if needed. What do you suggest?

[Celebration]

53. do what you do for people in the Prayer thread

Visualize a strong aura around the campaign, maybe a rainbow of color. That can help keep all the opposing scalar waves from the colliding aspects of the planets from penetrating to the campaign. You can do a cleanse before that--throw some virtual salt on the campaign--and demand that the negative energy from the planets and all other sources leave and return to where they came from. After the cleanse, and the rainbow of color, seal the campaign with gold, silver, and blue. You can do this on a vision board, or just in your third eye. Use figure 8 type swirls throughout--swirling the salt, eg., swirling the colors, etc.