'They're here': The mechanism of poltergeist activity

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http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13563-theyre-here-the-mechanism-of-poltergeist-activity.html

Brovetto and Maxia hypothesise that the changes in the brain that occur at puberty involve fluctuations in electron activity that, in rare cases, can create disturbances up to a few metres around the outside of the brain.

These disturbances would be similar in character to the quantum mechanical fluctuations that physicists believe occur in the vacuum, in which "virtual" particle and antiparticle pairs pop up for a fleeting moment, before they annihilate each other and disappear again.

Brovetto and Maxia believe that the extra fluctuations triggered by the pubescent brain would substantially enhance the presence of the virtual particles surrounding the person. This could slowly increase the pressure of air around them, moving objects and even sending them hurtling across the room.

The poltergeist paper will appear in the journal Neuroquantology.

We contacted Brian Josephson, a Nobel laureate physicist who is on the editorial board of Neuroquantology.

"This looks distinctly flaky to me," Josephson commented.

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1. It's a shame that was all Josephson said. He dismisses it but says nothing more?

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This is really interesting, and it's great that there may actually be a scientific explanation for it.

Thanks for posting this, itsjustme.

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3. it's the culture

And for the same reason I didn't post it in Science.

What I am wondering--and I would love to figure this out--is how the auric fields are related to brain waves. I know they are, but it is more of an intuitive feeling than anything.

"Ghost" activity, in my experience (actually I don't have experience!), requires some sort of electromagnetic field, either from the earth, or from auric fields of people, animals or matter.

So, then, the mechanism could be "ghost" --> human auric fields--> brain waves--> poltergeist activity

I really feel that the human auric fields can "catch" energetic faults from the particular environment. An example of this would be a "ghost" following someone to a new location. How that translates into brainwave activity, and then into poltergeist activity and/or actual chemical changes in the physical body is the mystery. But in particular I'd like to know how glitches in the human aura translate into brain wave activity.

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6. Mind-field & perhaps it requires a specific level of Hz

and only a very limited width of it for such activity to manifest or for us to consciously perceive.

Ghosts/apparitions and poltergeist I have a feeling are different phenomena. I think we can explain the ghost phenomena as Mind-field, but whether this field has enough oompf to alter inanimate objects - I have to ponder some more....

Detailed information on human electromagnetic fields can be found in "Infinite Mind", Valerie V. Hunt, PhD

In her experiments she has in fact recorded the state of "cosmic awareness" in a subject where the subject's aura could no longer be "read" by instruments or by an aura reader, but later found hovering eight feet away from the body. She writes:

During those minutes, the subject's electronic sensors recorded only a few microvolt vibrations (millionths of a volt), rather than the 20 to 80 millivolt range routinely recorded. Generally we do not consider such low recordings because these resemble the ambient background of universal electromagnetism. But in this instance the sudden drop in voltage apparently signaled a state of cosmic consciousness. During this state the vibrational patterns were similar to, but of considerably lower voltage, than during coma. snip
In a coma, the individual can receive and decode information, but there is insufficient emotional will to act or to communicate by ordinary means. The mind-field, however, is sufficiently active that mystics who decode thought can obtain information and communicate with them.

Because our own vibration, as a whole being, fluctuates, as well as certain body areas vibrate at different levels,(as you can see in an aura photo) it may be that the frequencies have to correlate in a specific (yet unknown) way to interact with outside (past/present/future) environmental vibrations, or "Mind-fields" in order to represent or manifest certain effects?

While in a coma, both the lower ELF and the higher EHF ranges of frequencies were extremely weak and The awareness was high and weak, but not related to material things

I think, your brain/emotion activity relates to the fluctuating state of brain vibration (electric field), just as the heart does:

In addition to the extensive neural communication network linking the heart with the brain and body, the heart also communicates information to the brain and throughout the body via electromagnetic field interactions. The heart generates the body's most powerful and most extensive rhythmic electromagnetic field. Compared to the electromagnetic field produced by the brain, the electrical component of the heart's field is about 60 times greater in amplitude, and permeates every cell in the body. The magnetic component is approximately 5000 times stronger than the brain's magnetic field and can be detected several feet away from the body with sensitive magnetometers.
http://www.shiftinaction.com/node/119

But I think it is the other way around; the "glitch" in brain activity reflects onto the aura. Whereas "intent" via emotions are created by the heart?

Whether the source is violent physical injury, emotional shock, anesthetic, self-induced drugs or starvation, there is always an emotional element locking these memories in the field, freeing the self from tragedy. Connections are severed; the field is temporarily reprogrammed so strongly that ordinary consciousness is delayed or never recovered. In a coma, the individual is protected from memory of the experience which sent him there until he unlocks the memory by returning to that expanded state of consciousness in which the traumatic event occurred.

Conceivably then, that mind-field locks in an experience and remains as an energy field (ghost/apparition), which under the right conditions, another person could "pick-up" or walk into.

Just as you give the sample of a "ghost" following, it may not be so much "following", but is "everywhere" for that person with the tendencies or happens to vibrate at that frequency to "see".

I don't like the term "disturbances", as used in the article it gives a wrong impression, however the process they are implying almost sounds like a projection of an image.


This is such an interesting subject - thanks for posting the article.

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8. thanks

I probably need to read the Valerie Hunt book. I have a lot of others like "The Field" but that is more evidence based and less about the human energy fields and more just general.

If we could entirely figure this all out there would be a lot of disease and misery that could be prevented. And if MDs could use energetic techniques that are available now, our culture would be so much better off.

This discussion is reminding me of a YouTube I watched about ELFs and mind control.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtEvdfLihto

It is the third part of a Discovery Channel program. The first two parts are there too. Think of it, we could use this technology for good purposes........not for defeating an enemy in war.

As far as whether the brain waves influence the aura, or visa versa, it is probably both affecting the other. That is just a guess.

So ghosts don't cause poltergeists?

These type of phenomena happen not just around human energy fields but near fault lines or ley lines.

I think a relative of mine was living in a "haunted" house. Nothing unusual happened there that could be perceived, but everybody tested negatively to this house. I tried to clear them of the house and that didn't work. So, finally I cleared the house (by distance). Anyway, I remember now that before they moved into the house, a family owned it whose son was really into drugs and had gone to the Vietnam War. There is no telling what went on in that house before the relatives moved in. The parents had both died in their 60s. Anyway, living in that house probably explains some of the illnesses of my relatives. I can't prove it, though.

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10. in fact that what is she has been advocating

since retirement - is energy healing

I highly recommend her book, since it is a no nonsense recounting of her scientific research. When I first read her book, the second part of the book, which is quite spiritual, did not resonate with me at the time - that was of course quite a few years ago, and I was wondering why she would veer off of what I wanted to read - her scientific findings - now - I know. The more I re-read I understand.

I do believe in resonant energies - the house you mention probably has a lot - can you imagine all the strong emotions in the houses that are being foreclosed upon now? These energies do not matter whether they are left behind by living or deceased persons.
Just like the "myth" about buying antique jewelry there is a strong emotional imprint - that is why it is so important to cleanse the stones or maybe any object large or small - to render any of your attached energies harmless -
But it is the more important that the government does find a truly compassionate solution to the unfair treatment of so many with all these foreclosures.

I am more inclined to seek answers on poltergeists as a phenomenon of the living....I think the most a past energy can create is sound - but even that could be not in the present time & space - like the footsteps I heard and when the dogs barked...but I am still looking for answers and am certainly open...

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11. well the article was posted April 1. The empty 'dismissal' is a clue.

Not that I'm discounting telekinesis ever, I just don't take an Apr 1 story seriously.

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12. April 1 is probably why they ran the story on that date

But the journal, etc. are very real.

It has lots of "flaky" Russians and eastern types on the editorial board--

http://www.neuroquantology.com/journal/index.php/nq/about/editorialTeam

New Scientist loves to run cutting edge science stories, along with things that are a little more traditional. I am thinking that they were looking for something even more out of the ordinary for April 1.

I don't know anything about this journal other than it is new. But there is probably a need for a scientific journal that publishes things like this that wouldn't be considered other places.

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13. You're not the only person who says that

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2. I have heard this theory before

Not sure if it was from the same people or not.

It would make sense, and would also explain why many people are at their most psychic (albeit uncontrolled) in their preteen/teenage years (I mean counting the years before any formal training). I know I was, and my former elder used to talk about how, when she was a teen, she could (unintentionally) whip up a thunderstorm when she got really angry.

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4. there are probably feedback loops of sorts

Hormonal changes in the body may disrupt the auric fields enough to easily pick up various glitches or ghosts OR psychic information from the environment. Then that changes into the brain wave patterns that cause the visions or poltergeist. Probably a bunch of these feedback loops are operating. I wish I had a good diagram of what was happening.

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5. wow

In my teenage years..that was the time I had the most experiences, too. I did not know that it is the same with many others. I had thought that perhaps in our early years, we are not as "contaminated" with all sorts of beliefs and thoughts and may in fact be still connected to the LBL or other dimensions.
and wow, because I quietly said to myself, "beware folks, I will call the rain"..they called me Taiphoon xxx. I am amazed others also felt they can call in the weather..I may have not been so far off. I wonder.

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7. Interesting, and thax for posting it'sjustme.

Poltergeists and people.

Here's what I know, or at least what I've read. (don't really have any 1st hand experience in this field, but I still find it fascinating).

The departed are around us, at all times. Look around the room where you are. We have a 'Grand Central Station' around us at all times. I'm not sure if they are aware of us, but I do know that we for the most part cannot see them.
From what I understand, it's a random assortment of disembodied beings.
They can glide right through our bodies, and we might not even notice, or glide through walls.
People who would be considered 'sensitive' would have better time seeing them.

Now as far as teenagers attracting all kinds of etheric activity; I've read that is true. I'm not sure exactly the reason, but I've read that high levels of estrogen or testosterone is the cause (??)
Or, extremely frustrated teenagers can attract etheric activity. Anger, frustration/ passion/ sex?
I've also read that younger children have a higher incidence of seeing them and even interacting with them.
Spooky, if you ask me.

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9. younger children

when my daughter was about 4 - she would point numerous times at something and would ask me "who is that", when no one was there.
I told her it is probably her late Grandpa (my Dad), and in fact a year or so later she pointed at a picture of my Dad and said, she saw him. He died 1 year before she was born.