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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:28 AM
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New Arrivals to Help with Earth's Environmental Catastrophe
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 04:50 AM by NJCher
According to a guest on C2C the other night, a dozen extraterrestrials have arrived on earth to help us out of our environmental catastrophe. They landed somewhere in North America and did so secretively to avoid being attacked or imprisoned by our miltaristic government. These ETs, which I will write about more later, somewhat resemble humans. They could actually pass for humans with a few modifications to their appearance. In fact, after hearing Dr. Boylan's description of them, a caller said she had seen one. The call sounded credible.

Here is a pic of an Altimaran:



You can listen to the segments of this program for free at the link I've posted below. I know most C2C shows are subscription only, but Dr. Boylan, the show's guest, has the segments I'm talking about posted at his web site.

OK, now guys, bear with me on this. I know this sounds really wacky and far out. When I first heard it, I thought it was totally Looney Tunes. But I've listened to the program two more times now and I'm toying with the idea of taking this seriously. It doesn't help that that the psychologist who brings us this information also believes that the fairy people are real. It's hard to overcome the ridicule and stereotyping that our society heaps on people who might even broach this topic. But try, as I have, to suspend these beliefs and cultural conditioning and just play with this idea.

Essentially, here's what he's saying: There are a dozen visitors from Altimar who have come to earth out of deep concern for how our planet is unraveling ecologically. They are scientists and have come here to study and find ways to repair the damage. They expect us to play a role in this repair by changing our ways. They have even brought a "communications director" as a member of the team!

They had to come under cover because of the militaristic way our government (and many others as well) sees visitors from other planets. If it were possible, they would have come openly but while our country (and planet, to a certain extent) is so heavily controlled by people like Cheney, the bush family, Putin, etc., they cannot.

These scientists have come here indefinitely. They do not think there is any quick fix for our planet. They are committed to helping because they, too, love Planet Earth. These beings have adopted American names. Here are the names and the specialties of each:

Chris and Oman are technical environmental specialists. They will be studying how we have demaged our environment with various technologies. Specifically, our government has some type of underwater craft that has damaged an area of the North Sea. This will be one of their projects.

There are botanical specialists:

Fred 1, who works with plants on land
Alvin, who works with underwater vegetation

There is Mata, who deals with healing energies and psychotherapeutics.

Fred 2 deals with lava, volcanoes, and items of that nature. (Two of them liked the name "Fred" so much that they both claimed it. That is why we have Fred 1 and Fred 2).

Alfred deals with the atmosphere.

Tom is working with the earth's crust.

Sam is involved with the saline waters.

Amanda is the communication specialist.

Gene is the organizer/commander of the team.

Here is another important piece of information from the show. Dr. Boylan thinks that the Stephenville UFO is actually an American technology. He thinks they are "floating" this technology now because they intend an attack (ostensibly by extraterrestrials) on America before the Nov. 2 election. He said this is their plan but he does not know if they will actually act on it. The information comes from psychic sources who monitor the activities of what Boylan likes to call the "kabal." He says that we need to rid ourselves of these people because it is their greed that has us hooked into environmentally destructive technologies.

He says that if "the kabal" goes nuts and starts attacking other nations, other star nations will step in and stop it.

I will write more about this on subsequent posts but I wanted to float this idea and get a discussion going since the show episodes are freely available to all of us. Here are some links:

Listen to the show segments:

http://thelightofdayradioshow.com/archives/misc_12-01-07/C2CAM_033108_HR3.mp3

http://thelightofdayradioshow.com/archives/misc_12-01-07/C2CAM_033108_HR4.mp3

NOTE: I have not listened to the above links. I listened to the program from my subscription.


Here are the credentials of the guest:
Dr. Boylan's resume: http://www.drboylan.com/resumefullrb.html

Explore the many links at his Web site (looks like a lifetime of work):
http://www.drboylan.com



Cher
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 05:24 AM
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1. I want to work with Mata!
Dear NJCher, I hope this is all true. I really, really do. We need all the help we can get and I'd start (and I've been trying) with raising the consciousness of humanity. Then this group would not have had to arrive in secret.

I'll listen to the snippets tonight after a long, but exciting day (I get to see Obama!).
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 05:47 AM
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2. I agree, Delphinus. I also hope that it's true. We're reaching the point of no return.
:(

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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:24 AM
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3. Wow.
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 08:25 AM by crikkett
PS are those sideburns on the Altimaran?

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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:34 AM
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4. the fear mongering of our militaristic government
I hope so, too, Delphinius, because every day there is a new story about a species going extinct, the ice breaking away from the pole, or something like the bees and bird numbers being drastically reduced. It is torment reading about whales and dolphins starving. Polar bears running out of room to live. Being an organic gardener and a nature lover, it is death by a thousand cuts. Some days I just sit there and cry. It is so bad for me that I avoid these stories because I feel it is happening to me personally. I hide them on a DU page and if it's the TV, I switch it to another channel.

Lately I've been reading and researching about UFO's and extraterrestrial beings. Did you know that there is a site where a guy has collected reports on UFOs through the Freedom of Information Act? Here's an excerpt from his site:

He states: "This archive is the result of more than 11 years of my research into the U.S. Government, their secrets, and the retrieval of near a half million declassified government documents..." (http://www.theblackvault.com).

Reading these reports, one cannot help but believe there are visitors from other systems. There are simply too many reports for them all to be "weather balloons" or "sun dogs."

These visitors have been here since man evolved on this earth. This link shows historical representations of UFOs and extraterrestrial beings:

http://www.crystalinks.com/ufohistory.html

It's time to stop letting the cultural forces that be blind us an open our eyes to the fact that these visitors exist. It makes me angry that the "kabal" wants us to view everything as a threat and something to fear.



Cher
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:55 PM
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15. I ran across his site when I traced
information on Star Kids. I posted something for lil'D or MG (and their starkids) a couple years ago or something.
http://www.drboylan.com/

I heard an interview, possibly Alex Jones?, but can't remember. I do recall from that time he was talking about visitors who had actually made contact with government officials from a *world coalition* sometime in the past. (I think they were the power brokers, not necessarily anyone concerned with humanity's best interests.) The Gov't officials have not live up to their agreements. At the time I was reading, no new direction had been determined or announced. And, yes, I believe it is telepathy.

It is all very curious. And exciting to think we might be here to see how this plays.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:42 AM
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22. Why do you think the bushistas are so greedy?
One way tickets off the planet are expensive.
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The Blue Flower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 05:21 PM
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5. About damn time
Ever since I was little, I wished whoever dropped me off here would come back and pick me up!!
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:45 PM
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6. I hear you there!
At some points in my life, I have gone outside, looked up, and railed at the Universe for leaving me alone. I want my Star family sometimes so much it hurts - on so many levels. :cry:
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:11 PM
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20. Me, too!
I have a vague memory from about age 3 of talking with 3 individuals in an Air Stream trailer (that was my interpretation of it) & them promising to come back for me. They all wore togas. Older man (60ish), 40ish woman & 30ish man.

Maybe I'll be going home soon!
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 08:12 AM
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7. Oh good! There's help on the way! Thank you, Universe!
Sounds somewhat familiar to what Matthew has written about--that there are alien beings, light workers, whatever he calls them, working to prevent the 'dark plans' of 'the cabal'... Helping to heal our planet, etc. Anyone else find it similar?

At this point, we need all the help we can get to prevent worldwide wars, famines, disasters, death, destruction, etc. All the stuff that 'the cabal' embraces. Also of concern to me is the November election, and everything up until Jan. 21, 2009. I want a new 'D' President to be sworn in. I wouldn't put it past these guys (once they've unsuccessfully stolen another election) to stage another attack on US soil (i.e. 9/11) or to start a war some place else. Something to interfere or interrupt the transition to the new administration.
(paranoid? :tinfoilhat: yes! with good reason)

I have no problem believing there's other beings, lifeforms, etc. out there. I think it's arrogant to think we're the only ones here.

I have trouble listening/watching internet programs on dial-up, so may I ask you if he said he has personally met these visitors? How did he get the names and job specialties?

Thank you for posting this-it's very interesting. I'm glad we have help from the 'outside'.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:17 PM
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13. liberella
I noticed that, too--the similarity in this and what Matthew has been saying.

And these extraterrestrials would not be the only ones. From other things I've read, there are others walking among us.


When you think about some of the spectacular eff-ups of the bush administration, you have to wonder if it was all their stupidity or if some other factor came into play?

I'm going to listen to the show again to get you a more accurate answer on how Boylan was able to meet the visiting scientists but from what I remember, one thing he said made me think they came in under a visibility cloak. What was interesting about that was just a few days before, the show had had on Dr. Michio Kaku, who is working on the inivisibility cloak. The way he described (very brief) how they came in made me think of what Dr. Kaku said about that technology.

I got the feeling he was nearby, watching them come in, but not meeting them directly. He communicated with them telepathically.

But I will be back with more, after I've had a chance to listen more.



Cher
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 10:57 AM
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8. Phew
Just plain PHEW

Thanks for the info.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 05:37 AM
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9. ditto
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 05:51 AM
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10. Thank you, Cher, for posting this!
(And hello from long ago when I followed your posts with great interest and resonance.)

Yes, it's a damnable shame that topics like this are ridiculed by society in general and DU in particular, but this report is no more Looney Tunes than, say, the Supreme Court electing the president or giant corporations completely controlling the government and 90 per cent of the media OR this country going to war against a virtually helpless "foe" for profit. Given what has taken place so far in the 21st Century, the notion of visitors coming in secret to help us tend and heal Mother Earth is not far-fetched, IMO. Centuries ago, the Altimarans would undoubtedly have been seen as Angels, and probably widely accepted.

The entity Kryon has said for some years that our "Relatives" would arrive from deep space in roughly 2012 and that they would bear a remarkable resemblance to humans. To me, it ain't that big a stretch to think that the Altimarans would be an advance party. And given the Time Distortion that I've been feeling for the past few years, 2012 could be a month or a year away from whatever moment this is.

Kryon also warns of a staged attack by fake ETs, mounted by Earthlings (of course). The purpose of this will be to scare the bejesus out of the people and make them clamor for protection--from the very ones who are behind the "threat."

I hope this discussion will continue and to all who read this, I say the time has long passed when any weight should be given AT ALL to what "others might think of us." Look where such a mindset has landed humanity!

Peace Around,
dbt

PS: I would be greatly interested in talking with Alfred about the Chemtrails.

:evilgrin:

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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 09:58 AM
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11. The last time I received Reiki
it was in a reiki share and I had about 6 people giving me reiki at once, 2 of which are mediums. Right before I went on the table I was getting zinged by some type of entity from another person who was receiving reiki and started shaking/shivering and his abdomen kept rising up off the table, his skin was red and his breathing labored. There was Karuna master dealing with this along with three others--no one would go near his abdomen outside of the Karuna master covering it with blankets (as he was rigoring).

Anyway I was getting zinged and was getting very distressed. When they got me on the table I practiced yogic breathing to calm myself while telling myself some affirmations about safety. I went into a kind of trance and the word Mata and sort of a very shadowed face was coming but I did not see it well. The word Mata, had a very long a like Ma-ata. I had been looking online and in different books for this name, I considered maybe it was supposed to me Mahatma but no, it was Ma-ata, Mata. My sense was that he was standing behind my head to the right. It was also a sense that I knew him and he gave me a vision of an oval stone, black or green with white streaks in it, --it reminded me of the soapstone tiling of our hospital lobby but it was a small oval and it could be black or green.

Anyway, once I got this, I really felt better, the sounds coming from the other table were not distressing, it was as if I was very removed and I just felt the love and healing channeled through by my reiki friends, like feathers brushing me. I also have been looking for that stone. I purchased one that seemed similar but it isn't quite what I saw.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:32 PM
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12. stones
last year our alternative doctor gave my mother these stones when she was at the nursing home:
"nuummit crystal"



way at the bottom some info on the crystal

http://thewe.cc/weplanet/poles/kalaall.html

http://selacia.com/
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:41 PM
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14. Thanks for posting this, NJCher
This is fascinating. Like another poster said, "It's about damn time"!

This statement gives me a sense of relief:

He says that if "the kabal" goes nuts and starts attacking other nations, other star nations will step in and stop it.

I have been feeling lately that something positive is going to happen to help remedy the course of the last 8 years. Perhaps this is it.


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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 05:27 PM
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16. the 1947 crash...& the 11:11 Universal Laws
I wonder whether they were here because of the destructive WWII, too.

The symbols of these 11:11 Laws were found etched into the structure of the starcraft that crashed at Roswell in 1947.
I gave my photo of these symbols to Ihanktowan Dakota (Sioux) Chief Golden Eagle/Standing Elk. He took them into sacred lodge, asked guidance from the Tunkasilas, (Dakota word for the “Grandfathers”, spiritual guides from the stars), and learned that the symbols stood for the 11 Universal Laws and 11 Spiritual Laws that all Star Nations cultures accept as common metaphysical/spiritual foundation.

- Richard Boylan, Ph.D.


http://www.drboylan.com/11.11laws.html
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 05:34 PM
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17. I did not know this
the symbols stood for the 11 Universal Laws and 11 Spiritual Laws that all Star Nations cultures accept as common metaphysical/spiritual foundation.

So, perhaps they come when our world leaders are violating these Laws in a big way. I think you could be right, rumpel.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:54 PM
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19. I saw most of them
in the early to late 70's in Japan...It was also after Vietnam. People started saying that the area where I lived must be in their flightpath. But considering the existence of Yokosuka and Atsugi US bases and the big US weapons cache they had inside a mountain - I wonder...

I have not seen any since.
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Callie McAllie Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:17 AM
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39. What do you suppose those 11 universal and 11 spiritual laws are?
Maybe it's out on the web somewhere? We could start a thread to suggest something along the lines of what they might be.

Spiritual:
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you
Love thy brother as theyself

Universal:
Leave the mountain as you found it

What was the Federation's "prime directive" again?

I love this thread and I'd really like to believe that someone is going to swoop down and save us from ourselves. We certainly could use the help. But on some level, I can't help it, the whole idea reminds me of "Galaxy Quest."

I don't mean to scoff. I have an open mind...



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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:26 AM
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40. I found these online
The 11:11 Universal and Spiritual Laws of the Cosmos
http://www.drboylan.com/11.11laws.html

Universal Law of Free Will
Spiritual Law of Freedom of Man

Universal Law of Change
Spiritual Law of Growth of Man

Universal Law of Movement and Balance
Spiritual Law of Strength, Health and Happiness

Universal Law of Innocence, Truth and Family
Spiritual Law of Protection of Family

Universal Law of Symmetry
Spiritual Law of Equality

Universal Law of Life
Spiritual Law of Choice

Universal Law of Light, Sound and Vibration
Spiritual Law of Intuition

Universal Law of Judgment
Spiritual Law of Karma

Universal Law of Nature
Spiritual Law of Protection of Man

Universal Law of Love
Spiritual Law of Healing

Universal Law of Perception
Spiritual Law of Future Sight

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

It may be noted that these Universal and Spiritual Laws, accepted and revered by all member civilizations of the Star Nations, are not couched in the “Thou shalt/not...” language of Human civil and religious laws. Rather, these Universal and Spiritual Laws may be seen as universally-valid, self-evident principles, grounded in natural law and the fundamentals of consciousness, and in every intelligent lifeform’s connection to Source.

The symbols of these 11:11 Laws were found etched into the structure of the starcraft that crashed at Roswell in 1947.

I gave my photo of those symbols to Ihanktowan Dakota (Sioux) Chief Golden Eagle/Standing Elk. He took them into sacred lodge, asked guidance from the Tunkasilas, (Dakota word for the “Grandfathers”, spiritual guides from the stars), and learned that the symbols stood for the 11 Universal Laws and 11 Spiritual Laws that all Star Nations cultures accept as their common metaphysical/spiritual foundation.

- Richard Boylan, Ph.D.
drboylan@sbcglobal.net
MAKA WICAHPI WICOHAN
Dakota Sioux for the 11:11 Laws


My note: This is so exciting. I had never heard of 11:11 being related to these 22 laws before--I LOVE IT. It's like the last little piece of the puzzle I'd felt was lacking. :D

Also, seems like these universal and spiritual laws bear a remarkable resemblance to some other documents from a couple hundred years ago...hm...something about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness...something else about the right to be secure in your own home...stuff like that...Hee.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:36 PM
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18. I have now listened to and read some of his material
it is quite amazing, and yet makes me wonder and it opens more questions.

Has anyone checked the "Star Kid/Star Seed Identification Questionnaire"?
According to that I'd score a 22 without knowing some of the facts at birth or right after birth.

I believe according to Michael Newton's material, that we have tried out some sort of existence on another planet in the many incarnations. In which case, are the so called ETs really ETs?
I then think maybe that we collectively screwed up the Earth experiment and the soul groups from higher levels working elsewhere in the cosmos have to step in -

Several questions were interesting to me
"Sometimes, when the child goes by an amber sodium-vapor-plasma streetlight, the light goes out," - it still happens to me and I had all my life dismissed it as coincidence and rather said to myself, that is my bad luck - just like the famous toilet paper roll running out, which happens to some including me. lol

"The child reports seeing Visitors that the parents/others cannot see, or sees things out of the corner of the eye which disappear when stared directly at; (inter-dimensional viewing)." - I presume this is apparitions, ghosts etc.

Let's say the star seed adults or star kids are a specific group of people, by his definitions I believe all in this group are in fact star kids:) but I am a little apprehensive about what he says or the way he depicts us, if in fact this is a special type of almost "hybrids".
I prefer Newtons' soul groups explanation. We only vibrate at a certain level as we want to usher in a gentler more balanced world for all...and we work hard towards it, nothing special, everyone will be there in their own terms and time.
..but I will certainly read some more.

However, he brings interesting material overall. I was pleasantly surprised with the article he posts with the information of the Vatican's stance on UFO's:

That evening Paola and her mother accompanied me to a prearranged visit with another humble light-worker priest, Monsignor Corrado Balducci. Balducci is the official Exorcist for Rome, former diplomat in the Papal Nunciature in Washington, DC, past theologian member of the Vatican’s Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith, and an insider who has the attention of the Pope. He is also the Vatican’s (tacit) point-man for ufology.
Balducci has gone on Italian national television five times in the past several years to proclaim that Star Visitor contact is a real phenomenon! The Monsignor further noted that: Star Visitor encounters: "1) are NOT demonic, 2) they are NOT due to psychological impairment, 3) they are NOT a case of entity attachment, but 4) these encounters deserve to be studied carefully." Since Monsignor Balducci is a demonology expert and consultant to the Vatican , and since the Catholic Church has historically demonized many new phenomena that were poorly understood, his stating that the Church does not censure these encounters is all the more remarkable.



Thanks for posting - it's great to know that other cosmic beings are here to help
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:16 AM
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21. Interesting to revisit this thread
Ties in with the Larry King Live topic of UFO's
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 12:15 PM
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23. Yes, and developments since then
Recall a little while ago (maybe a month ago?), that the Vatican's official stance on extraterrestrials has changed? Now they say it doesn't go against Church dogma to believe in aliens, because it would be egotistical to presume that we are the only inhabited planet it God's universe? The DU thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3278825

Sounds like some warmup prep to me...

And lo, from a Washington Post article dated today:

Still, many religious people see the possibility of life beyond Earth as consistent with their views of an omnipotent and omnipresent God. Vatican chief astronomer José Gabriel Funes, for instance, told reporters in May that the Catholic Church sees no theological problems arising from that possibility, and spoke of the possibility of "brother extraterrestrials."

Bertka said that efforts to describe and explain the aims and implications of astrobiology are especially important in the United States, where religion remains a larger part of people's lives than in many parts of the world and where so many Americans say they feel a personal connection to God in their daily lives.

"We need to understand that any discovery of extraterrestrial life would not only be an important scientific moment, but an important religious and philosophical one, too," Bertka said.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/19/AR2008071901642.html
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 03:12 PM
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24. Exciting stuff
love it! We live in such interesting times.

worldpuja.com also has a lot of great lectures online--check it out if you haven't yet!!

:hi:
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Bluestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 12:47 AM
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25. Very informative! Thanks for posting
I think we have to suspend our disbelief about incredible miracles happening as we go through the ascension process over the next several years. Thank you for posting this type of information.
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 10:18 AM
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26. Keep your vibration up
most people here know this. How many prophesies and religions talk about these changing times? They use different language, but it seems to me to point to a time when we will be challenged to live more naturally and resist a false way of life that is unhealthy and damaging.

Excuse me I see holographically and I think this is the place to share this:

The white race, according to Native American legend, controls Fire (black Water, red Earth and yellow Air), and it is apparent that the Fire element, or POWER itself, is what the Western world (dare I say dominated by the white race) has been abusing as of late in the form of oil and a dominating social structure. Part of what needs to happen, and is happening, is that this FIRE element needs to balance itself through a transformation of both our physical alternative energy program and the use of power in our social network.

I find it interesting that the Mother Earth is melting her Water in an attempt to balance the Fire element, in all Her wisdom. She is not feeling well and is getting a fever!!!

It is not that the West should not work on cleaning up Water (emotion), Air (minds) or Earth (physical realm), but if we impeccably transform our use of power, use it cooperatively and share it with each other in balance with the planet, that the other elements will have a much easier time balancing themselves.

The Fire element is kept in check by Water, Water extinguishes Fire. In the sociopath, there is no Water (emotion), so Fire (power) is burning out of control. These sociopaths need to steal power from other people since they are not connected to God/Goddess (the collective or higher self), nor are they grounded to the Mother Earth. They have turned predatory since they cannot charge their own batteries, they have to feed on others' power. Since these people are in control, they have had to restructure our form of government to match their inner structure, so what manifests is a ruthless world where Fire is stolen and misused.

The most important point I want to make is that a key reason Fire element is out of control is because we peaceful people have allowed it to be. Power (or Fire) manifests as absorbing and yielding and flexible-YIn, and aggressive and manifesting and structural-Yang. Peaceful people manifest energy in a mostly Yin way, but too much Yin allows Yang to jump in and fill the vacuum. Warrior type people are naturally Yang but too much of this use of power is what we see today with too much aggression and too much building and manifesting and materialism.

In order to balance power as it manifests in the West will require people who are peaceful to be more Yang, to be peaceful warriors, and to be vigilant and watchful for this imbalance of power in the form of the social disease of sociopathy. By keeping our VIBRATION UP, we resist the polarization of power that has manifested in the sociopathic disease, instead internally balancing the Yin and Yang vibrations within--which will manifest in the world all around us.

As we keep our vibration up, the beings of light off world will have an easier time working with us!!

I know that what I write (type) is for me and for others, that I speak from a high place and wish everyone here well~~send you light and love and good journeys~~~~~ :hi:
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 11:21 AM
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27. Very interesting, windoe! I love how this fits with astrology.
What you say is a very important reminder; I will try to be more conscious of these things. :)

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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 11:30 AM
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28. How does it fit with astrology?
If you have time could you explain the connection you see? Sounds interesting :-)


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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 12:11 PM
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29. Water/Air/Earth/Fire
Water (Scorpio, Pisces, Cancer) ~ emotions
Air (Gemini, Aquarius, Libra) ~ mind
Earth (Capricorn, Virgo, Taurus) ~ down-to-Earth; practical
Fire (Sagittarius, Aries, Leo) ~ action-oriented


This is really loose and there are lots of other things that they mean also, but it does match. :)

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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 07:04 PM
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34. You made me check the planets again
An interesting thing I do is go to astrologyweekly.com and they somehow automatically produce a chart for your latitude/longitude so you can check on the real time planetary positions for your area. I print this, and then cut out the little circle and superimpose it on my natal chart since I am right brained, in order to get an idea of the planetary influences on ME at any one time--to get a visual on the astrological influences.

I guess one could do that for the US natal chart and compare the influences, (or for anyone else's or country's chart).

I know you guys are adept at these things and I always wonder if I am insulting your intelligence :) so much is missed in virtual reality.....

Astrology is such a dynamic art, always in motion--what a beautiful universe.


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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 08:17 PM
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37. I don't think that anyone here would ever feel as though...
anyone is insulting their intelligence. We have many different levels of expertise in many different subjects, and we need to speak in a way that allows everyone to understand. I'm a "jack of all trades" -- certainly not a master of any! :)

Astrology truly is a gift to us from the Universe.

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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 04:01 PM
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31. I love your post.
thanks, windoe

:hi:
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 08:07 PM
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36. Your journal is so interesting, I could only scan it
I am busy these days packing and moving (to AZ this summer) to learn alternative medicine-wish me luck. I may be computerless for awhile (gasp) until I get settled. I have one foot on a banana peel these days.....
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 09:01 PM
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38. Have a great move
it has been so long since I put anything into the journal..but thanks.

:)
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 06:07 PM
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33. Thank you for this, windoe
Very, very wise words.

As I read, I thought about the masculine/feminine imbalance (yin/yang), and thought about preceding cultures here that were matriarchal. They were not successful either precisely because balance was not achieved during those times.

I would welcome peaceful revolution, in whatever form(s) it might take. It is time, and, I am ready.
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 07:54 PM
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35. As Hitler said, people do not wish to believe the Big Lie.
As a classic sociopath (forgive me for exhausting this word lately) he actually wrote the manual for others like him to follow; Mein Kampf.

Peaceful matriarchal societies were not prepared for the bronze age hordes that came through and desecrated their lands. They could not imagine it. So peaceful people today make the FATAL mistake of not recognizing the truly dark and predatory types that walk this Earth with us. We want to believe that this darkness simply does not exist. I spend my 20's believing this and almost lost my life. I married an addict, hung out with people were truly dark and self destructive and actually thought I had the power to heal them, that 'Love conquers all"..

It seems that peace loving people have a blind spot in all their innocence, that they are too trusting (my mother told me when I went out into the world that I was too trusting!!!) THe Hitler-Bush-Pinochet types know this and use it to their best advantage --and if ever"The Meek Shall Inherit the Earth" it will be as a result of them becoming adept at recognizing and handling these predators that live among us, not allowing them to prey upon us or take control--somehow.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 12:32 PM
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30. Oh, Cher, fairy people are real.
They go by different names in different cultures, even in our Judeo/Christian culture where we call them angels, prophets and many of the saints. Be careful in how you refer to the fairy people. Their feelings can be hurt and they might play a trick or two on you for spite. O8) Put out a ring of flowers for them to apologize.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 04:06 PM
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32. Last night, I read the newest from Tyberonn:
"Inner Earth, Devic Kingdom & UFO Phenomena"

I have some problems with it, but then again - I probably have to re-read to understand it. I felt very dense, it was very difficult to read for me...

Just wanted to add here, and see what you all think about this.

http://spiritlibrary.com/earth-keeper/earth-keeper-chronicles/inner-earth-devic-kingdom-ufo-phenomena
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