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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 08:48 AM
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I don't get it!
I don't know a whole lot about astrology, and don't really follow it.

But I've had more than one person comment on my son's birthday in a negative light.

When I was pregnant with him and folks asked me about the due date, people would do things like roll their eyes, or just say "Oh. Good luck with your Virgo baby." Even a woman in church said "Ah, a September baby. I'll pray for you." My cousin's birthday is 4 September and she said "you're going to have a hard time with that one."

What gives?! What is so bad about my son being born 17 September?!
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 09:33 AM
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1. I don't get it either.
Edited on Wed Jun-18-08 10:02 AM by Dover
Virgos are known to have certain "issues" specific to that sun sign just like any other sign.
A few of the more 'difficult' characteristics associated with Virgo (which you can google if you want to get more indepth) are perfectionism, overemphasis on details, savior/victim games, an extreme neatnick or extremely messy (or some interesting combination), hypochondriac or germ fetish. I think the movie/t.v. show The Odd Couple played up many of the opposing extremes of Virgo with each character (Oscar and Felix) representing the two poles.

But Sun signs are just one small aspect of a very complex set of astrological archetypes and energies that make up an individual. Of course each person is a unique being. And often someone's "issues" can also be the source of their strength. A lot of Virgos in the health field, computers, science and other areas that rely on detailed analysis and categorizing.

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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 02:44 PM
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2. You know, I do think there is a negative feeling in general about this sign.
And I also have no idea where it comes from.

But when my first child's due date was set at September 17th, I didn't feel really good about this after reading up on general characteristics, and was not displeased when my duaghter arrived 9 days later on September 26th a Libra!

Perhaps I just felt more comfy at that time with Libra's as they are very numerous in our family!

Strange, this negative connotation. I guess some of the characteristics as Dover mentioned are ones we'd rather not have to deal with....:silly:

:shrug:

DemEx
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 12:26 AM
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3. My mechanic friend
is a Virgo, and I totally appreciate his fastidiousness...when he is working on my car, or preparing a scrumptious meal, or telling me to lock my doors. He is about the only one that can get away with that. Everyone else I expect to know that I know how to lock my doors. He is thorough. Nothing at all wrong with that. He has his own ways. But he is so sweet. How can that be a bad thing?
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 04:46 AM
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4. Yes, I too REALLY appreciate the ability to focus on details and synthesize information.
Of course LIVING with that is probably another story. Seems like that perfectionism and the obsessiveness and expectations that surround it could squeeze the life and fun out of things.

I recall going to a group campout/cookout and meeting a man who was a Virgo. He was a craftsman and very skilled and I liked his energy. Anyway, we were all standing around the fire at night talking. As we talked I was vaguely aware that he had been carefully tending the fire. At one point, while conversing about something, I absentmindedly picked up a small log and fed it to the fire.
He literally had a physical reaction to this as though I'd assaulted him with that log, as he rushed around to grab it out of the fire, gently instructing me in the laws of fire feeding (or something like that). He had a 'special' way of doing things and it really threw him off for me to mess with that.
I got tickled...like watching Felix Unger...but kept that to myself. I realized that though it was humorous to me, it was also somehow painful. It occurred to me that it must be so difficult to constantly feel that pressure, that one must be the torch bearer of some elusive and unobtainable perfection.
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Callie McAllie Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 05:50 AM
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5. How could anyone say anything so rude?
Edited on Thu Jun-19-08 05:54 AM by Callie McAllie
It never ceases to amaze me how free people feel to say whatever stupid thing is in their head. It doesn't matter if your baby is born in August, September or on Halloween! (Except that would be a really long pregnancy!) He/she is your child and you are going to adore everything he does, even if he grows up to be Monk.

Not that he will. I was raised by obsessive compulsive wolves, neither of them Virgo suns, and I have a healthy respect and appreciation for anyone seeking order and perfection. They're not always easy to live with, but they always know where to find their car keys. Or anything else, for that matter. And their house is always tidy.

I didn't know much about Virgo before this post, but this does absolutely apply to my sister-in-law, who is Virgo sun. She is very much a person who expects things to be done a certain way...her way. It has taken time, but she has come around to a new way of thinking about some things. I always thought my brother married her because she's so like my mom. But despite being quite particular, she is also fun, determined, unafraid, loving, and a great mom herself, with three outstanding children to brag about.

So please do not let those rude people fill your head with doubt. Your baby will be wonderful!
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:26 AM
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6. Thank you
I was just really amazed at HOW MANY people commented on this. They also commented (favorably) on my oldest, born 5 February ("Oh, an Aquarius baby....Aquarius people are so cool," etc. etc.)

You're right; some people just need to keep quiet :-)
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:43 AM
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7. Speaking as a Virgo
I will refrain from pointing out the negative characteristics of other signs. EVERY sign as good and bad aspects.

Besides, the sun sign is not the only astrological aspect of any person.

The real astonishing part is that people are so willing to say negative things about an as-yet unborn child.

Oh, and my difficult child was born March 23, which makes him an Aries.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 11:42 AM
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8. I think that people are drawn to fun, light-hearted, outgoing people...
Edited on Thu Jun-19-08 11:43 AM by I Have A Dream
and the stereotypical Virgo doesn't fit that description. However, the world needs people who take things seriously and get the work that needs to be done... done. As a Capricorn, I know that our society doesn't much value the pure energy of Capricorn either. As a Capricorn, I don't have a problem at all with Virgo energy; in fact, I greatly value it.

We're, of course, talking about pure Virgo energy since every planet and how they interact with each other makes up how we present ourselves to the world. I work with a Leo man who has something like 6 planets in Virgo. I would have bet money that he was a Virgo, and when he told me that he was a Leo, I was really confused. (This was before I really understood that there was more to a person's astrological makeup than the Sun sign.) It was only after looking at his chart and realizing that he had all of that Virgo energy in other planets that I understood what I was experiencing with him. He's the best worker that any employer could have. He's also a wonderful father and husband. He takes all of these roles very seriously. I attribute those things to the Virgo energy in his chart.

I'm so glad that you didn't let what they said prejudice you in reference to your child. I'm sure that he's a beautiful, loving child with much to add to the world. Many blessings to him and you. :)

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 02:09 PM
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9. They don't appear to really know much about astrology, then
I don't know that much, except that the sun sign is just one aspect of one's natal chart, and if it is placed in certain positions on the chart, it's influence can be strengthened or weakened. Just as important, I believe, is considered the rising sign and the moon sign. And if you have a whole bunch of planets in a particular sign, that would make that sign more significant in your chart.

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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 05:16 AM
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10. I would not worry.
I have read many people complaining about dealing with Leos and boys named Michael too. My sister is a Virgo (9/16) and she is very analytical and smart, she also can be difficult to deal with because of her need to control. She is not particularly neat nor superorganized in her home although I am sure her desk is at work. She does stuff like describing a movie scene while I am sitting next to her watching it that drives me crazy and she is stubborn beyond belief but otherwise I admire her energy and her tenacity in the face of adverse circumstances. She manages to work full time, attend law school part time, raise 3 kids and keep them in activities as well as manage a long commute shopping and laundry. Granted she does get much support from her husband but she keeps those kids to a rotating list of chores lol! I just don't hang on the phone with her when she gets into a groove of picking something apart. Even though I am a Leo and have many planets in Virgo, I am still very much a "big picture" person and prefer to move on to the next shiny idea or topic rather than get bogged down in the last one. My sister lives to be bogged down in the last one until she has mastered every last detail over and over and over again.

She also has this weird radar that goes off whenever I am talking on the phone with my mother and will call her then, every time (especially after she has had some contact with me). I am the eldest, she is the baby of the family.


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