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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 09:07 PM
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A (crystal) child that feels too much?
Oh dear, MG Jr. is only 4; I know we have many years of crises ahead of us...and yet, here's the first one, and of course it's worrying me no end.

He said yesterday that he had to tell me a secret that he'd been keeping for a long time ("the whole time I've been 4," he said). He said he feels sad all the time--even when he's happy, he still has a part of his mind that feels sad. He said he feels like crying when bad things happen to characters on TV shows, in books, etc. And sometimes he just feels like crying for no reason.

So we talked for a while about being an empath (dammit, he had to inherit THAT from me?) and what that means. I taught him how to bring up his shield. I told him about Kwan Yin and even put her statue, and the rest of the items I have for her altar, in his room. I said he could talk to Kwan Yin anytime, because she understands about compassion. And of course he should always talk to me. Each night, I've been asking him to tell me a few things that make him happy, so he doesn't focus too much on that sad feeling. And each night I've been asking Kwan Yin to watch over him.

I'm not sure what else to do. I know he'll be all right in the long run, because I was EXACTLY the same way at his age--I cried at the drop of a hat over just about anything that pushed my buttons (remember the commercial about pollution with the crying Indian? that would set me off for half an hour every time). I'm still that way, to an extent (don't show me a Hallmark commercial unless you've got stock in Kleenex!)

But...I don't want my kid to be sad! I don't want him to be so exposed to the world that he absorbs other people's emotions! (When he was really small--not even 2--he would get upset if he heard another child crying and couldn't differentiate between what he was feeling and what the other child was feeling.)

Oh my poor kid. Sigh. Just needed to get that off my chest, I guess. :hi:
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 09:46 PM
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1. {{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}
As a fellow empath I sympathize and know how excruciating it can be until a body can learn how to shield effectively. I would come home from school and cry for hours until I had no more tears. Antidepressants didn't work because I wasn't just crying because I miserable I was crying on behalf of every miserable kid and teacher at school. Later a psychic told me she believe I was not just empathic but that I had been something called a sin eater in several lifetimes where I consciously took on the suffering of others to make a subsistance living. She advised me to break my karmic contract with that and any agreement that had me taking on other people's issues. I think this helped but then it was around the time I was attuned to Reiki which really helped reinforce my shielding so I am not sure how much was which. It may be useful for you to use your intuition to see if this has anything to do with your little one's depth of empathy.

here is an idea please feel free to ignore esp. as I am not sure how much is suitable for a young child :) You said you have taught him shielding but did you including grounding? Sending roots into the earth and drinking up earth energy until it overflows out the crown flowing back into the earth? Once this is done you can request in your high self, gardian angel/spirit, a guide or other Light being's energy down in through the crown flowing throughout the body like filling a balloon with air until it goes out the feet. Kwan Yin is so lovely and loving that by asking her for this energy it might help strengthen resistance to other's vibes. Oh and pulling in the aura so one's energy isn't scattered until it is out to a comfortable distance such as 1 1/2 feet and then brushing the aura with the hands to collect anything from others like a dust cloth gathers dust then simply clap 3 times to discharge. When all else fails if I am staying put such as at home I can call in the guardians of the directions (I call the angels but those of other varities of religious experience can call whomever is right for them) north, east, south, west, above, below, and center. I call this around my house or more usually just my bedroom and on sleepless and restless nights this lets me rest without having nightmares for my neighbors.

Is he old enough to trust with a keychain or something similar that has a protective gem in it such as a little piece of amber or onyx or whatever works for him? I found certain crystals protect me a bit and those are amber, onyx and hematite for grounding. I know when I was young I had a bad habit of sucking on necklaces so my Mom never let me wear them until I was nearly in my teens as she feared I would swallow the pendant.
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Callie McAllie Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:17 AM
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9. What a sweet boy he must be, and you are such a good mom
I would not say I am an empath, exactly, but I always identified with that empath on Star Trek (the original one, it was a single episode). I was always the emotional one in my family, but I thought that was the role I played in that little foursome, carrying the emotions for all of them so they wouldn't have to. Perhaps there is more to it.

My son is very sensitive. Even my mother (who is not) noticed it when he was young. But he is much better able to contain it than I. There's a national guard recruitment commercial they're playing in theaters now, a music video. It makes me cry. But my son leans over to me and says, sarcastically, "Mom, could they make this any sadder, do you think?"

He is only 11 but wants to go into advertising, and he's quite clear about it. That's the thing that strikes me from so many of these posts. The sitcoms, the sappy commercials, how it impacts the empaths among you so much. But you have to remind yourselves that some of that emotion is just plain manipulation. It's not even real, it's orchestrated.

I remember watching Steel Magnolias, and at a certain point bawling like a baby, totally emotionally wraught. But at the same time a part of me was thinking that someday that little boy will be 25 and talking about this with his therapist, and a part of me was just plain angry with the filmmakers for manipulating my emotions so baldly.

Anyway, good luck to you and young Mr. G. It sounds like you are doing a great job with him, and if he takes after his mom, you know he'll be just fine!

:hug: (Okay, I have tears in my eyes, darnit!)

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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 09:40 AM
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19. Gosh, thanks, Callie
I'm just doing my best (and constantly worrying that I'm not doing the right thing!)

Sounds like your son is wonderfully grounded! And he can help you--how cool.

Yeah, I spent a couple of years in advertising myself, and I'm quite well aware that those ads and movies are blatant manipulation, but it doesn't stop my waterworks! :rofl:

Here, honey. I've been whipping these out all morning! :hug:

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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:53 AM
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10. Aw, thanks, Shallah
:hug: backatcha.

Yeah, being an empath is a challenge, that's for sure, huh? I have never heard of a sin eater--that's really interesting. He might have been one at one time--my former elder did a reading on MG Jr. a long time ago and said that he has a lot of karma to work out in this lifetime. But then, she said that he spent a number of lifetimes harming people, but now he wants to atone for that, and that's part of the reason I'm his mother--because I can help him with it. So it might be that instead. Or both--who knows? I'll "look into it" (literally! spiritually?) and see what I can find.

Good point about the grounding--I dashed off that post so quickly last night that I neglected to mention that I'm getting the message that I need to get him back into nature more often, and I "saw" myself teaching him to sit at the base of a tree and draw strength from it, as well as practicing grounding. Another good point about drawing in his aura--I hadn't thought of that. I'm quite sure his aura is spread far and wide, because he pulls in total strangers wherever he goes--they just LOVE him.

He might gnaw on a keychain, especially now, because his baby teeth are starting to feel uncomfortable, and they're going to start falling out. For the first time since he was teething as a baby, he's been putting his fingers in his mouth (the past couple of weeks).

Hee--I used to suck on my necklaces too. I was instantly cured when my fine gold chain (a crucifix, I believe--SO long ago!) came into contact with my very first filling (amalgam). ZOINKS!!!
:puke:

Anyway, thanks for the advice, Shallah. I will definitely do those things! :hi:
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 11:40 PM
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31. Did I meniton aura brushing? it is so easy even doubters can do it
Just sweep your hand over your own or another's aura as far as you can comfortably reach all around and then clap three times and shake your hands to discharge. I suggest to people to do this during bathroom breaks to clear their energy esp. if they are around someone who is negative or just dealing with a lot of stress. I usually do my Mom's aura when I see her after work because she never does it herself and I get a headache from the stuff *she* picked up cuz I can't block her even when I block others automatically most of the time these days. She will usually comment after that she feels better like the air is clearer and the room brighter.

For shielding and grounding maybe when you practice with him you both can draw pictures of yourselves with roots like a tree and a bright color coating your auras. If you have let him see any sci-fi movies like Star Trek or Star Wars tell him it is like their ships shields or tell him the shield is like a trampoline so any yukky stuff bounces away. When grounding you can play at being different trees - strong and stable like an oak, bendy and flowing like a willow, trembling like an aspen in the wind. Also try this yourself and see if you like it - go out at night and stargaze and breath in the starlight until you are full up with it. If you think it suitable share iwth your son and tell him to drink it in until he is full up and glowing like a lightening bug in his minds eye.

Sometimes it is useful to breath in colors especially into areas of the body with problems or where an emotion is stuck. Maybe it would be useful to play with this and show him how to breath in bright colors into an area where he feels sad or angry and breath out the yukky feelings. You can breath out the yukky feelings into a box and give it to the Earth for compost or burn it in an imaginary fire. For now just breathing out the feeling for a few breaths is probably complex enough.

If you like crystals you might try assigning him some but don't have him carry them. Put them in a pouch under his bed to help shield at night and talk to the crystal explaining that you want it's protection or other positive qualities to follow him everywhere he goes. Years ago I stuck a lovely lump of rose quarts under my older sister's bed. It mellowed her out for a couple of weeks until she found it and tacked me down POed wanting to know what the F it was for. Probably thought I was doing some sort of new age voodoo on her. I just wanted to tone down the permanent PMS type mood.


re: karma - as you know karam usually isn't strickly an eye for an eye. People can make amends in different ways. A person who was violent in another life causing great physical harm could come back as a doctor and make amends by repairing injuries saving people from death and disabilities.

BTW if he ever brings up stories about possible past lives that are bothersom look up Carol Bowman's books. she has collected some amazing cases of kids who's phobias and even physical health problems that were improved when parents reassured the child that what happened before was another lifetime with another Mom & Dad with another body. My Mom told me that I had many stories when I was preschool age but she can't remember anything. She just thought they were cute when I would talk about 'when I was big like Dad and you were little'.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 10:22 AM
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35. Wow, it's great that you remembered your past life with your mom!
MG Jr. shows no sign of recalling any of that. I have asked him once or twice, but I don't want to pressure him. We'll see what comes out as he gets even better able to explain himself.

Thanks for the reminders of those great exercises, Shallah. Aura brushing is definitely on my list. And I smudged the house yesterday and also smudged Jr. At first he didn't want to be smudged--didn't want to take a break from playing, and thought the sage smelled funny, but I did it to myself first and said, "Oh, come on. It'll only take a second" so he stood up, and I walked him through a few deep breaths, then smudged him, and THEN he said he liked the smell! Hee. (The house was totally in need of a smudging--hadn't done it in a while--and I noticed after I finished and we went out for a while, then came back, it was noticeably different, and the air felt clearer and cleaner.)

When we first moved into this house I had my coven sisters come in and check it out, and we detected a (natural) vortex on one side of the house that was spiraling up through his room. We cleaned the house and did a blessing and it toned down considerably. Since it wasn't negative, just "there", we left it (so I can use it when I need it), but put a block of granite on that spot in his room to prevent it from disturbing him.

As for crystals, when he was 3, I was buying some stones online and wanted to beef up my order, so I put him on my lap and let him look at the screen, and he picked his own crystals! One is a merkaba, and the other is a point (I'm blanking on what type they are right now--they're quite uncommon--but the descriptions were perfect for what he needs). We keep those in his room, along with some angelite and a heart-shaped stone he found in the yard.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 04:44 PM
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40. I wish I remembered the stories I told her
I found it interesting that she said I would always talk about when I was big like my Dad instead of big like Mom since I am female and never wanted to be a boy. I was a tomboy and proud of it and my Mom cut my hair short as I would chew on it if it was long enough but I was totally ticked off if anyone ever mistook me for a boy.

The other big past life tidbit that leaked through in my preschool years was that I could beat adults at chess. Put me in front of a board now and I can't even remember the rules for moving the pieces but starting when I was 3 or so I could beat high school kids and adults at chess. And then I would teehee and smirk behind my hand. My Dad really got a kick out of this and was puzzled when I lost interest and ability in that game. I did continue to do good with stratego and I can actually remember begging and harassing my Mom every single time we went shopping where there were boardgames until she gave in and bought it for me and she was shocked that I could do so well with a game not intended for preschoolers. I doubt I could do well with it now just like chess though.

oh sorry to hijack your thread. I am so glad Jr ended up enjoying the smudging. I need to do my own house since I haven't cleared it throughly in ages. It always makes the house not just cleaner but almost vibrating with energy espeically if I put on some good new agey music it is like the cleaned energy dances to the music :)

That is very interested re: the vortex. I don't know if there is anything like that near me. I do know that a dowser found a line of black energy under our house. He got a more skilled friend move it a few times but it always came back. I ended up working to clear it calling on AA Michael and others to clear and heal it to it's source. I didn't want that energy crapping up some other person's life because just wanted it out of my way. I also send Reiki to the Devas (nature spirts) of the land and plant life here. I think it made a difference as I always get NO when I check to see if the black layline returned. gotta go - thunderboomer just came in and I am on ledge!
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 06:13 PM
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44. That's so cool
I never had any specific memories of past lives, although I was terrified of water (even the bathtub or washing my face), and I was obsessed with Native American culture--but not local NA tribes like the Iroquois nations; I loved the Lakota, Hopi, and (whatever I could learn about) the Anasazi. Hee.

MG Jr. kicks ass at chess, too! It's amazing to hear him playing on the computer with Mr. MG (I'm a chess moron--can't even remember how the different pieces move)--"Dada, I'm going to move this so I can block you."

We had a bad vortex in our first house--coming through the homemade cobblestone fireplace that was peppered with giant lumps of semiprecious stones (damn I hated to leave that house, for the fireplace alone). My former elder said that there had been some folks noodling around with stuff they shouldn't have, and they opened a vortex that was acting like a neon-lit highway for entities ("Enter 3-D earth here!") Needless to say, we closed that one and cleaned out the house. Good work on the black leyline. This vortex we have here is neutral, thank goodness.

Stay safe from the booms!
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 04:19 PM
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54. I wonder is there a safe way to dedicate your vortex to the light
or otherwise charge it with best vibes possible? I don't know anything about them other than Sedona, AZ is supposed to be chock full of 'em and I once read about the middle east having some heavy duty ones, many of them bad.

I hope MG jr does not forget his skill when he gets older like I did. Maybe carrying over skills will be a more common thing the the modern indigos and crystals.

My historical fasinations were always ancient egypt, atlantis, Stonehenge, the Maya and the Inca. Oh and I did have one other past life skill carry over - I could roll my belly like a belly dancer when I was a wee one. I can remember my Mom prompting me to show the pediatrician and her nurse when I got a check up. Oh and I was always trying to Karate chop people but not too hard, more in a joking manner.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 05:13 PM
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55. We minimized it when we blessed the house
But I suppose it could always do with more charging for the better (although it was entirely neutral to begin with).

I think part of my job is to make sure he doesn't forget his skills. I interviewed a woman in California last week who owns a New Age store and holds classes; she said her most important class is the one she holds for indigo and crystal children. She said I might end up teaching them (here) as well. I think it's going to be important in the near future.

Belly dancing--great!! I loved to sing and was entirely frustrated that I couldn't carry a tune in a wheelbarrow. Interestingly enough, I asked for that talent back, and I got it back when I was 12. (I found out later that girls' voices change during puberty just like boys' voices, only not as dramatically.)
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 05:04 PM
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42. re: saging w/ kids...
My kids love the sage smell and fight over who gets to carry it through the house...! lol

My daughter waved it into her teen brother's room, "to help with his boy smell, and his 'meanies' "
they are so freaking smart!

I actually got my kids into finding special rocks they like, like a white one in the lake that stands out, or one with green in it, yellow stripes, etc... then we talk about the colors and what they might be helpful with. They keep them on their dressers, or wherever, sometimes one goes into a pocket for help through the day, too...and then they have their own collection of healing stones. (bwahaha! I love "reminding" them of these wonderful tools!)

so nice to hear of other mommas who are open to teaching these little spirits! thanks for all the info and hugs for all our struggles, too! GOOD JOB!

:grouphug:
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 06:02 PM
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43. Oh! That reminds me!
I should post this in my 2012 crop circle thread--I was looking at the crop circle picture, and MG Jr. came up to the couch, pointed at it, and said, "What's that?" I said it's a crop circle. He said, "Oh, the aliens make those when they come to visit!"

I LOVE THESE KIDS!

Jr. is always finding rocks and giving them to me. And when he was 3, he picked his own stones from a Web site when I was placing an order--a merkaba and a point. They're in his room with some angelite and a heart-shaped rock he found.

Good job to you too, mom! :hi:
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 09:54 PM
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2. Oh, I can so empathize with what he's going through!
Edited on Wed Jul-16-08 09:59 PM by I Have A Dream
I used to hate to watch Casper the Friendly Ghost cartoons because they were always mean to Casper at the beginning. Even though I knew that they'd all love him by the end of the cartoon, I'd start worrying about the fact that they'd all hate him again at the beginning of the next cartoon that he'd be in. (I knew that he wasn't real, but that didn't make it hurt any less.) There were so many things like this: Picking teams during sports was excruciatingly painful -- I could feel each person's pain and apprehension. :(

You know that you can't completely take the pain away from him no matter how much you want to do so. Just be there for him so that he knows that he's not alone, and try to give him some tools, as you're doing.

A book that really helped me was Elaine Aron PhD, The Highly Sensitive Person, Birch Lane Press, New York, 1996

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0553062182?tag=sensitivepers-20&camp=14573&creative=327641&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=0553062182&adid=18RF6HVSQ99SEQY17W6V&


You probably don't really need to read about it since you've also personally experienced it, but it did help me to understand that it has real value even if our society doesn't usually appreciate it. (I know that you value it, MG.)

I think that your son was trying to protect you by not telling you. What a mature little man you have. :loveya: He's really lucky to have you for a mommy.

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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 09:01 AM
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12. Thanks, Dream!
That book looks interesting--I may pick it up and check it out for a third-party perspective. This is a little OT, but not really, as it pertains to helping my son--after all, there are no coincidences--I am now reading Book of Shadows, which someone mentioned on this forum a few weeks ago. I also got The Love Spell by the same author, who's a wiccan high priestess. I wasn't sure what to expect from Book of Shadows, but it turned out to be kind of her autobiography of how she discovered wicca and her first year as a student in a coven, as well as how it affected her professional life as an attorney. It's really interesting, because a good chunk of the book is all the lessons you learn as a "witchlet"/newbie in your year-and-a-day training before you're initiated. I thought that would bore me, but instead I'm finding it a nice refresher course. I still remember all the information, so reading the facts over again bores me a tiny bit, but the beneficial part is that it's reminding me to get back to my roots and start practicing again, which I mostly haven't done since I left my own coven. And my altar is suddenly demanding attention (and it wants to be moved out of the corner it's in).

So the serendipity is that my son needs to learn some basics (sooner than I expected, I'll be honest), and this book is reminding me just what those basics are--JUST IN TIME. Of course. Hee. :hi:
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 09:57 PM
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3. Sounds like you are sensitive yourself,
and are doing a wonderful job in guiding your little one. If you know of any links to bringing up a shield, I would love to look at that.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 09:11 AM
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13. Thanks, Midnight
There's a reason he was born to me, my former elder told me in a reading a long time ago. He's got a lot of spiritual work to do, and I'm supposed to help him with that. It ain't easy, I'll be honest! :D

I don't know of a link for shielding, but I can share what I learned in my own classes:

When you're first starting out, you'll need to concentrate on bringing up your shield (but as time passes you'll be able to fling it up in a flash), so practice by sitting quietly. Take a few deep breaths to center yourself. Balance your chakras by focusing on each one, from root to crown, if that needs doing. Then ask the God and Goddess (or whichever way you choose to address the Universe) for assistance with protection. Envision a brilliant white column of light coming down from above, into the top of your head. Picture it coming down on all sides, covering you completely in white light, even underneath you, until you're completely protected all around and you see yourself inside a white egg-like shape. That's it! It travels with you and repels all kinds of ickies.

Note: Some people prefer to have the white light come up from the earth and rise up over the top of their heads. Again, your choice.

I'm in a bit of a hurry, here--did I miss anything, guys?
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Tumbulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 11:43 PM
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4. Just a little to add to the great posts above
I would eliminate any tv, radio or internet news with photos. I still at this age cannot easily get the sad things out of me. I cannot listen to the news or read the news online if there are photo's with my 7 yr old around. She becomes too upset and then cannot sleep. Never had tv, but used to get videos, but even those are mostly too upsetting. So only rarely and with a parent sitting and holding her for scarey or sad parts.

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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 09:12 AM
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14. MG Jr. so desperately wants to watch Raiders of the Lost Ark
He's fascinated by Indiana Jones, which is fine by me, BUT I know he'll have issues with some of the violence and dead bodies, even if it's cartoonish. As I told my husband, "Faces melting off? NO WAY. Not yet. He can't handle it." Not even if he's sitting on my lap! We're going to try to wait another year till he sees that one.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 11:46 PM
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5. First, lots of hugs to both of you. What a loving soul he has!!
And second - what you said about him crying when another child cries...my boy does that still. He's four also.
This is quite the generation, isn't it?
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 09:14 AM
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15. It certainly is, LD, it certainly is
They are such incredibly beautiful souls. Even if I weren't a mommy of one, I'd want to protect them from the "big bad world". But then again, they're here to interact with the big bad world, so I guess they need some tools and weapons! :D
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 02:04 AM
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6. Wow...thanks for the reminder
I have a five yr old and a six yr old...they are both very sensitive...my 16 yr old is too, but he hides it behind a wall. I used to weep uncontrollably at injustices or sad parts in movies(especialy animal related). (My generaion is more indigo, but these new kids are definately a new breed! )

What sucks is that we are all recovering from an abusive home with my ex. And sorry to say, my dad's and grandfather's rage has found it's way into me too. I yell and get mad and really have to struggle to ground sometimes.
The good news is that I am working with a great therapist/shaman and just started a new class for clearing this stuff out (meditation, running energy, etc)...what's weird is that I already "know" this stuff, been studying and practicing for years, just not daily. And I know I can use the tools for my kids and me too. It seems that somehow I get to work on the generational ills from both sides of the family. So my kids have really helped teach me to shift things before it is too late.

My daughter is a healer and my young son has been emotionally awakening more and more since his 5th Bday in May. I just pray for the strength to get past my crud so I can be more helpful, too. It is really hard being single, working poor, and struggling and still trying to uplift myself enough to remember my compassion. I know I don't hold it well when I am tired. But I also have to stop beating myself up for having hard lessons his time around... we chose eachother to be family and live and love together.

Thank you for reminding me to give them more tools so they can keep grounded even when I am not!
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 09:19 AM
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16. Wow, you have my utmost respect
Single mom of three? BLESSINGS TO YOU, MA'AM!! (Hee--when I typed it, it came out "mama"--that too!)

I'm an indigo scout, and I went through a rough childhood, although it was different--my parents fought all the time (just yelling) which rubbed me raw (being a sensitive) and then they divorced when I was 7, back when NOBODY got divorced, so I was treated as a freak by my family, my classmates, and even my teachers (like--whispering, staring, and pointing--and those were the polite reactions). My point is that going through that was necessary, because it made me who I am today. So although they suffered from your ex's abuse, it has tempered them in fire, and they'll be all the better for it--especially with you guiding them! (Sigh--I yell too sometimes. Don't beat yourself up about it--it kind of comes with the territory, especially when it takes them half an hour to put their shoes on!)
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 04:53 PM
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41. lol----"especially when it takes a half hour to put their shoes on!"
...heehee...that's usually why I yell, the getting out the door in the morning thing is a nightmare! I am glad I have flexible hours so I don't get in too much trouble for a 15 minute lag...but i hate being late all the time!

I was a child of arguing parents too, and I used to wish they would split up... now, as they approach their 45th anniversary, my dad is still a grump and my mom has really blossomed spiritually, so who are we to judge anyone's path, eh?

My daughter is a huge animal empath, she wants to be "an animal saviour" when she grows up, and I have seen her talk to wild ducks, etc...I think she is able to adjust her vibration to theirs, I am learning to observe and understand it more on a energetic level. My little guy is a Taurus, totally a "bull in a china shop" type! But the more i learn how to be grounded and at peace, I notice the easier it is for them to mellow out too.
:)
:hug:

thanks goodness we are all learning how to love our kids for who they are! Bravo to you too mama!
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 06:26 PM
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45. Ain't it always the way?
We live a one-minute drive from school--nah, it's gotta be something like 45 seconds--and he's only been going to his kindergarten prep for one week...and yet we've had a Battle Royale every morning to get him there on time.
:wtf:

I hated when my parents yelled at each other, but I was devastated when they broke up. I took solace in watching reruns of The Brady Bunch; I soaked up the sights of a big family with siblings and two parents and happy times, but then I felt sorry for myself that I didn't have that in my own life. I got used to my parents being apart eventually (after much hardship), and ironically a few years later they decided to get back together. Both my brother (who's much older than I am) and I had the same reaction: "Why?!" It turned out they reunited for purely financial reasons (and fear of growing old alone) and, after a ridiculous attempt at playing "happy family" which lasted only a few months (polite conversations, them sleeping in the same bed, pancakes for breakfast), they went back to arguing all the time, and then they fizzled into coexisting in the same house and sleeping in separate bedrooms. My dad worked three shifts, so it was easier to manage. Silly, really. I wonder what kind of karma they have with each other. I don't think they cleared it in this lifetime (my mom did nurse my dad for a year before he died), but who am I to judge?

My little guy is a Scorpio--very charming, and...DRAMA!!!...and has lots of water in his chart. I think I'm going to take him to the river tomorrow--we can look for holey stones, and he can get his feet wet and recharge.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 07:35 AM
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7. I am so identifying with
your son... this thread has been so very helpful. My family could never understand why I "took things to heart" so easily. Manipulative emotional commercials I avoid watching - they get me everytime. I can't watch Lucille Ball, Seinfeld or Frazier comfortably - have to leave the room when the main characters start feeling humiliated or anxious as I feel what they are feeling - I see the humor in it but can't enjoy it. I can watch the Stooges and other slapstick stuff because the characters don't have the emotional response these current sitcoms do.

I get it now. Your son is so very lucky to have an empath in the family to help him along.

:hug:
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:01 AM
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8. Oh, I am the same way with sitcoms. I stopped watching...
them when they started getting meaner, where the characters started taking pleasure in other people's misery or discomfort. Friends even got to be too much for me.

:hug:

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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 01:04 PM
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20. You guys are the first to understand this
I just thought I was goofy - I get it now. I AM ok! :P
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 12:39 PM
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51. Yes, you *are* OK! We're just wired a little differently than most people are.
:pals:

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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 09:20 AM
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17. Oh, I'm so glad that it's helping other folks here!
:hug:

Yeah, my mom was flummoxed by my sensitivity too. She kept telling me I had to "get tough", but she never told me HOW. I realize now that she was worried that the world would chew me up and spit me out, and it did for a while, but she didn't really know how to help me.

Oh yeah, I used to cry when sitcom characters were humiliated as well. I never understood how that could be considered humor.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:54 AM
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11. With 6 placements in Water
he's not feeling too much as that is just his inherent nature.

However, he needs to learn how to transform what he absorbs like an alchemist.

In alchemical lore, one focuses on whatever they wish to transform and then they attune to the nigredo (nothingness) in order for the transformation to occur.

It is said that the responsibility of placements in Scorpio & the 8th house or those influenced by Pluto is to transform the ____________________ (whatever the planetary rulership applies) that are no longer appropriate for humanity. They are intensely shamanistic.

At this stage I would recommend that when he's unsettled encourage him to color a picture of or make up a song about a happy resolution to whatever he is feeling. Sage and candles can help him as well.

You know you didn't beam in a lightweight hon.

He will lighten up a bit though in 6 months when his progressed Moon enters Gemini and even more so when his progressed Mercury enters Sagittarius in a couple years.

Here are some images for bright eyes.








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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 09:29 AM
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18. Hi, Stella!!
:hi: :hug:

"Didn't beam in a lightweight"--ain't THAT the truth!! And I was even braced for this--imagine if I wasn't!

Beautiful pics--thank you so much! I will definitely share them with him.

Interesting--since Kwan Yin has been living in his room, he's been sleeping deeper and not waking up around 1 a.m. and coming into our bed. He still does, of course--just way later--around dawn. (I've given up trying to get him to sleep in his own bed and, along with a new friend who also has a 4 YO crystal who sleeps in her bed, have decided that it's what he needs right now.)

I discovered this morning that part of his distress is his change in routine--he was going to grandma's nearly every weekday, then we went to my brother's in California for two weeks, then we came back and BAM he's going to his kindergarten prep Monday through Thursday for the rest of the month. It's been just too much change for him. But we're working through it.

Thanks for the heads up about change in six months and then a couple of years. I do realize he'll continue to evolve, but it's also good to get the astro angle on things. In the meantime, I've decided to smudge the whole house--it's been a while since it had a good cleaning, and this full moon is a good time, I think.

Oh hey, a little OT, but what is UP with this full moon? It seems to be quite potent. Is it? I've been dreaming up a storm over the past few days, Jr's emotions have been all over the place, magic is calling me for the first time in months, and there's even a lucid dreaming thread in the Lounge!
:wtf:
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 04:35 PM
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21. It will always be an honor to serve the brightest eyes I've ever seen on the internet
if not in this life in its entirety.

". . . Kindergarten prep. . ." OMG. I hope it's not all day. Sometimes summers should just be summers IMHO.

I hope you remember my Epsoms Salt, Baking Soda recipe (stolen from Edgar Cayce) Two parts of the former, one part of the latter, and his favorite oil.

It's psychic detox and full immersion is recommended for clearing of the upper chakras. Maybe get him a scuba mask and snorkel so it's fun for him.

I used to write biweekly reports on the lunations called stellascopes. They were really fun but over time became depleting.

rumpel's and Wickforbard's threads on the lunation are insightful.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=245x72627

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=245x72610

Here's another one I just got through e-mail

GRACE-FULL MOON

Greetings from Bethesda, Maryland, where I am visiting for these next two weeks. If you are in the area, come to The Owl Nest in Frederick on Saturday for my talk on Cosmic News: Planetary Cycles to 2012. Personal consultations are available there and always by phone or SKYPE.


This FULL MOON July 18 (at 4:00 am EDT) occurs in Capricorn opposite the Sun in Cancer. We also have Jupiter in Capricorn opposite Mercury and Ceres in Cancer. Mercury is on the Sirius degree, where the Star of Isis aligns with the zodiac. This special point was activated on the last New Moon, which was very close to Ceres and Venus. Now we experience its flowering and the light-filled cosmic messages nurtured by cosmic mother Ceres. What a great night for the movie Mama Mia! to open in the U.S.

A watchful friend sent me an email about a teacher in the Tamil Siddha lineage in India who calls this the Full Moon of the Guru, during which an extraordinary Grace Light will shower into our consciousness.* Sounds good! Let’s welcome it! In India Jupiter is called Guru. The Full Moon will be extra-close to that big planet. As the Sun showers its light on the Moon, it is woven into our awareness, Jupiter is communing with both Mercury, Messenger of the Gods, and Ceres, Earth Mother goddess. The Earth is speaking, as the Goddess She is.

Two states in the U.S. are ruled by Ceres: Vermont and Missouri. Both have statues of Ceres on their State Houses. I lived under Ceres’ golden dome in Montpelier, Vermont for a number of years. Ceres is Earth Mother, but also the Mother of Mysteries. Her themes include:

Mother Land
Goddess of the grain, cereals,
The Great Round, cycle of seasons, planting and reaping,
agriculture, animal husbandry
natural resources, ecology
cycles of birth, death and rebirth
mothering and children
nurturing, fostering,
protecting, preserving
welfare, the common good, education

Home in and feel out how any of these themes are coming up in your life—and in the news.

Ceres presided over the Eleusinian Mysteries, a long-lasting esoteric school and mystical teachings. In Buddhism, PrajnaParamita is the Mother of the Buddhas, of enlightenment. Her name means Beyond the Beyond, which is where she takes us. Her journey is not always gentle. It depends on what will most deeply nourish the soul, not the ego. The illumination and transcendent experience granted by the Mother of the Universe can be sweet and blissful or shockingly raw--she takes one beyond such judgments. In Cancer, she confronts us with any dependencies that are not healthy. This prepares us for the Pluto in Capricorn era that is all about self and social responsibility.

Another strong voice at this Full Moon is Chiron, the Shaman, is closely conjunct the North Node of the Moon and Neptune. A collective door of destiny is opening that continues to widen as we move into next year, when the Guru planet, Jupiter, makes mind-expanding fireworks as it joins in an exact conjunction with the Chiron/ Neptune. This is a truly shamanic trio, indicating a quantum shift consciousness in some way that is almost inconceivable except by the right brain.

This Full Moon offers a special moment to open to this radiant current of energy streaming even into our small corner of the universe. This is the Life Stream. Be at home with it in your deepest heart.


* More on the Full Moon of the Guru and Grace Light at
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stacey-lawson/amazing-grace-video_b_111155.html


KELLEY’S SUMMER TRAVELS

DC - BETHESDA, MD area, July 15-30.
For personal consultations, contact Kelley
at 866-245-1536 or kellhunter@earthlink.net

I wonder since you reference Kwan Yin so much whether you are aware of the belief that Peacock feathers are symbolic of her ever watchful eyes. They are alleged to provide protection.

See how he responds to these. . .



:hug:





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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 07:08 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. Oh well, if you mean actually READ all the other posts--chuh!
:P

Thanks for the nudge in the right direction, Stella, and for the third message about this full moon. I guess it IS quite a biggie!

Yes, I do remember your bath recipe--I will try it with him, definitely.

Hee--no, the kindergarten prep is only 9 to 11:30, four days a week, and only for the rest of this month. It was recommended that he attend when he was assessed in April because he was a little lacking in "fine motor skills". Well of course he was--he wasn't even 4 1/2 at the time. He's gotten a lot better since, but he'll still be the youngest kid in kindergarten, as he won't be 5 till November. They'll soon figure out he has a mind like a steel trap, though, regardless of age.

And his teacher, who's also going to be his teacher in September, absolutely loves him. Imagine that--the power of the crystal kid strikes again! :rofl:

Lovely peacock feather photo, Stella. *I* love it! I will show it to him and see what he thinks (but right now he's turning the living room floor into an obstacle course with toy cars and tiny traffic signs everywhere--whoopee).

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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:49 AM
Response to Reply #21
33. thanks, stella
now I understand the Grace Light better.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 02:05 AM
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34. Just from my gut feeling
Edited on Fri Jul-18-08 02:08 AM by rumpel
my impression was closer to what stella says.

I believe your son needs to go through this. I know it is painful -

and boom the power went out, but came back on quite quickly!

(Wow firefox had the post restored) It is really weired I went out to get groceries and an entire section of this town was in a blackout all stores were closed - there are at least 3 or 4 different grids - but sporadic outages seem to be happening - still.

Anyway, where was I. I think your son is experiencing many peoples grief for his own benefit. He will not have to experience it - it is like speed reading many lifetimes - a shaman in the making.

Do not worry. He knows what he is doing. on edit: he has to work it through himself. Just continue to give him your wonderful love.

Before the power goes out again...I sense the power surge - a fleeting moment of flicker...

See ya! Good Night. Hug your son for me :)

Tell him he has many guardians.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 10:58 AM
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37. Ooh, I hadn't thought of that
Speed grieving. I have heard of that--kind of rushing through a lot of trials and tribulations to get to the point where a person can start their "real work" of a particular lifetime. And I posted elsewhere in this thread, I think, that my former elder did a reading on him a long time ago and said he has a LOT of karma to work out and he wants to do it in this lifetime. Busy, busy boy (and me too, to help).

Many guardians--indeed--we got us gods and goddesses by the dozens, not to mention ancestors (especially my dad and Mr. MG's dad, plus my grandparents, and likely dozens more). Sometimes he says he's afraid of the dark, his closet, or monsters (like all kids) and I remind him that there are NO monsters or any other bad things in this house--it's SO protected. Wards, charms, cleansings, etc., PLUS when I was still with my coven, my sisters and I called up the dragons to protect this place. It's a fortress! :D

Consider MG Jr. hugged! He says thanks!



(Jr. at Laguna Beach a couple of months ago)
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 11:53 PM
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46. OMG..what a doll!
I just realized My little guy is UBER sensitive to changes in schedule, etc... He just went to grandmas for a couple nights, with sister...and she said he had a 4:30 am nightmare. (hmmm. witching hour?) My mom said he was flailing about and yelling, everytime she touched him, he hit her, and was not aware where or what was going on... she turned on the light and snapped him out of it, he looked right at her, pulled up the cover and just passed right back out!

Usually, he crawls in bed with me between midnight and early am hours (sleepwalks practically)...I wonder if he was freaking out because he couldn't feel my energy nearby??


I dunno...he also has a tendency to be very excitable. My mom and him have some real rows because he is uncontrollable at times. Like he has negativity overload and then just freaks out and scream and throws a fit. I have seen it subside over the past year, but sometimes he just has a hard time "hearing" what is going on. He gets into emotional overload and then he only hears himself. He used to mantra when he was a baby, and still kind of repeats the same thing over & over when he is crying. I am so scared they will label him as a discipline case or add when he gets into school!

(I want to post a pic, but don't know how)
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 11:32 AM
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49. Holy CRAP
It's true what they say, that these kids are more like each other than their respective families. My son is EXACTLY the same way!

We had a chat on Thursday about the recent changes to his schedule, because when my schedule used to change when I was little, I'd get all fritzy like he's been lately. He used to go to grandma's almost every day when he was in preschool because it was closer to her than to us, plus I was working on remodeling our house and doing my freelance writing. Then we went to my brother's in California for two weeks, THEN when we got back he immediately started his kindergarten prep class. It was all too much for him, and he had a meltdown Thursday morning. Luckily he was due to go to grandma's on Friday, so that mellowed him out.

MG Jr. crawls into our bed every night too! He always has--when he was in a crib, he'd cry, and I'd end up either falling asleep with him in a chair (and the minute I put him back in his crib, he'd wake up and we'd start all over again) or I'd surrender and bring him into our bed. Once he was in a "big boy bed", he was down the hall and into our bed practically every night. When he sleeps in his own bed all night, I know he's getting sick--and sure enough he ends up coming down with something a couple of days later, EVERY time.

AND AND AND although Jr. is pretty mellow 90 percent of the time, when he hits overload level (usually when he's hungry, tired, or both at the same time), he also starts saying the same thing over and over and over while he's crying, like his record's stuck. And he fixates on the weirdest things (the other night, when he was having trouble adjusting to his new schedule, he had a crying fit because "dada didn't say goodnight to me" although he did).

And I am terrified the school admin geniuses ( :sarcasm: ) will try to label him autistic, even though he's by no means anywhere on the autism spectrum. He is, however, frighteningly intelligent and talks like a 40 year old midget, so I'm braced; I will NOT allow a bogus diagnosis. Too many people treat autism like the new ADHD--kid's a little different? Let's diagnose him as autistic. Humph!
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 12:10 PM
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50. "bogus diagnosis" would be a totally apt description.
aka "trash can diagnosis" like "hyperactivity" in the 80's or "stress related" or "chronic fatigue" are to this day.

If he's talking like a "40 year old midget" he's hardly autistic.

I'm reminded of something someone once told me, that I felt was totally true. That was that it's impossible for one to counsel or diagnose someone who is operating or drawing from a different level of consciousness.

That may be why you're concerned, like any good mother would be, about a lame assed and thoroughly bogus diagnosis.

The best magic you can do right now is visualize him getting up being happy to go and greet his day.

As to the strange fixations, that's part and parcel of his Mercury in Scorpio. Maybe consider teaching him to adjust his focus by putting his thumb to his forefinger (index) and treating his third eye like an old fashioned camera lens. A clockwise motion widens the focus for the broader picture when he's over fixating, and counterclockwise motion tightens the focus when kids are all over the place.

One can do this with all of the chakras but I've saved some kids from over medication by teaching them this simple technique.

I may be typing out of turn but I think you can rest assured that you'll have all the ladies of the ASAH hopping on a bus to go storm the school if they mess with this little luv.

:grouphug: to bright eyes

Hope he's adjusting well by now.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 05:22 PM
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56. It always seems to me that they're grasping at straws
They want so desperately to label everyone who isn't "dead average" with some sort of affliction and then medicate the hell out of them to bring them down to "dead average". My niece was really lively and intelligent when she was little; my brother had to fight tooth and nail to keep them from diagnosing her ADD (they tried). She wasn't ADD--she was just bored to death with the method of instruction in her school (sit still and listen).

My kid is SOOOO not autistic, and if they try to hit me with "Well, autism covers a broad spectrum" they're going to find a prism jammed where the sun don't shine. Like I said, I'm braced for it! Anybody who wants to join the party is more than welcome!
:rofl:

I like your chakra-adjusting exercise! I will definitely use that. Today we went to the river and appeased his water tendencies by wading in the shallows and picking out cool stones to bring home. I had a heck of a time prying him out of there (as I watched rain clouds roll in) and now, back home, he says he's BORED. Snarf.

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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 06:41 PM
Response to Reply #56
60. In my case it took a diagnoses of a related disorder to autism to get cooperation from school
After years of threats that they would have me taken away from my parents because I was a school refuser. They kept wanting to put me in easy classes with kids with severe learning disorders. Never mind I was all Bs with a few As. They could never figure out that I didn't want easier class work I just plain hated being around so many people. They also at one point wanted to send me to a school for disturbed kids who had been badly abused and again put me in the remedial courses. It was a horrible place and thankfully my parents stood up to the pressure and withdrew me in jr high. Then the school got in a very nice lady occupational therapist who diagnosed me with Tactile Defensiveness which is a sensory integration disorder related to autism and the school had me tutored for a few years. I finished high school through adult ed when my fav cousin who was a very calm person was taking day classes. I could function at that point if i had a safe person nearby. The teachers were so nice treating everyone as adults. It was a revelation to be treated as someone who wanted to learn but had legitmate issues making it difficult to deal with people instead of a jerk of a kid just trying to stir up hate and discontent.


I am so glad your little one has you to play Momma Bear if need be!!! My parents did the best they could but didn't understand that the heck was going on with me and so would cave to threats hoping the so-called experts know what they were doing. Heaven knows what would have happened if I had ended up parents like my friends had :hide: A friend of mine her grandson was diagnosed ADD and they wanted him on ritalin. His mom, not a lady to normally swear told them to Cheney themselves and homeschooled him for several years. They also cleaned up any junk in his diet so no caffine or sugar, did vitamins, etc. When he got into his teens he wanted to try school again and found he could deal with it now unlike when he was little.

All Hail the Momma (& Daddy) Bears who love and protect their precious Cubs!

:yourock:
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:14 PM
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62. So glad you got the help you needed eventually, Shallah
It's ironic that there are many valid disorders like yours that go undiagnosed or end up being misdiagnosed (ah, special ed, last bastion of panicked teachers who don't know what to do with some kids), while there are other kids who just learn differently being diagnosed as autistic, ADD, ADHD, etc., and drugged up.

I have the advantage of not only being an indigo raising a crystal, but also a former teacher who saw way too much crap along those lines to put up with it with my own kid.

My former elder's younger son ran into the ADD issue as well, and she overcame it by getting rid of high fructose corn syrup in his diet. For a while he had no sugar at all, but when he was in his later teens she bought him soda sweetened with cane sugar. Cost a fortune, but it was worth it so he didn't go off the rails again.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:42 PM
Response to Reply #62
64. I figure the tactile defensiveness is just the physical part of my empathy and general sensitivity
For most of my life it was like going around without any skin over my nerve endings. In fact it was like nerve endings extended several inches above my skin. I am fortunate in that my parents were open minded enough to try alterntive treatment when conventional medicine failed including the drug route. I totally flipped out on several meds after trying milder ones which did nothing. I don't really remember much from that time but my Mom recently mentioned that she not only feared I would kill myself after 2 doses she was afraid I would attack her and one of the psychatrists I was seeing wanted me to keep going on the meds. The head one was sane and agreed to stop trying medications. After that my parents took me for accupuncture with a truly gifted healer. She was the first one to tell me I was an empath. She was over 2hrs away tho so later I was lucky to find a therapist who also does bodywork. She combines talk therapy with accupressure, Reiki, polairity, and other techniques she trained in so she is assiting in the energetic release as we do the talk part.

Sorry to purge here. :hide:

I am so very very glad your little one was born to the right parents. With you he will know from the beginning he isn't defective, he just has more acute senses than many people do :)
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:37 PM
Response to Reply #56
68. Okay. Now I'll briefly indulge in a flurry of bossiness
which I rarely do. You perhaps consider telling Mr. bright eyes what I told my kid and my four lovely god daughters repeatedly.

"Boredom is a sign of lack of intelligence, creativity, and imagination. None of which are you lacking. Now go get creative."

They always invariably rallied to the challenge.

Hope he does too.

Maybe tell him his self appointed cyber fairy godmother (source of the wombat and the peculiar visuals) said so. So there.

:rofl:

Smooch him again please.

:hug:
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:41 PM
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69. ROFL!!
I will indeed communicate this to Sir Boredom...tomorrow, as apparently the trip to the river wiped him out completely, and he's now snoring away upstairs. For the Very. First. Time. in his entire life he actually ADMITTED he was tired. He has NEVER said that--not once--not even when we came home from the airport at 1 a.m. and he hadn't slept on the plane. NEVER. Apparently messing about in moving water--even at the edges--does his little water body good. :D
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 03:11 PM
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53. MG
Edited on Sat Jul-19-08 03:12 PM by Hope2006
Your beautiful littls one sounds a lot like one of my grandsons who just turned three. We had a birthday party last weekend for him, and, I was saying to someone that he is "frighteningly intelligent". What this means to me is that he may not be well understood by his teachers when he begins school (he will start pre-school in the Fall).

His vocabulary is astonishing, and, his sensitivity is "off the scales". I have two older grandsons (3 1/2 and 6), and, I had my own two boys, so, I do think that what I am noticing about this little one is accurate.

He does remind me of myself as a small child. I was extremely sensitive (still am), and, I was treated as an older child because of my vocabulary and the way I expressed how I saw through people. My four children were more "normal" in the sense that they were very much little children when they were "supposed" to be, albeit intelligent little ones.

My daughter, his mother, is very concerned for his future because he is "so sensitive". Me, I think he will be just fine. He, after all, has his grandma to understand him, and, I live only five minutes away. More important, he also has wonderful parents who encourage him to be himself. Also, my daughter is a teacher, so, I know that she will not put up with any "crap" from any teachers this little one has should they not understand who he is and what he needs.

Sounds like there are a lot of little ones who are displaying very similar characteristics at this time.

This is a very good thing, IMO.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 05:31 PM
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57. It sounds like all the kids in your family have had a great support system!
My main job these days is to encourage him, I know, as well as help him develop his gifts. When Jr. went for his kindergarten assessment in April, they were less than impressed (his fine motor skills were lacking--heck, he was closer to 3 than 4 then, and he's going to still be 4 when he starts kindergarten in the fall), but I told them he was "scary smart". The teacher looked at me like I was crazy, but I know what I know, and I know how bashful he is in strange situations. They'll find out. Heh heh. They'll find out.

I was very sensitive and hyperintelligent when I was little too, and my uncle always called me a "40-year-old midget". They always boggled at the stuff that came out of my yap sometimes. I was also a big reader, so my vocabulary was off the charts--or at least I thought it was due to reading--Jr.'s vocabulary is incredible too, but he isn't reading yet, so hmmm....
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:19 PM
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67. Thank you, MG!
From what I have seen from my little grandson, fine motor skills are something to be ignored. He has a younger brother who just turned 1, and this little guy is a monkey in disguise. He has amazing climbing skills, and, I have been calling him "monkey man". He would much rather climb (and walk) then talk and communicate. Older brother, on the other hand, would much rather read and think.

I think Mr. MB will be seen as "A OK" when he starts K. If not, you have us. I hope you use this loving population!
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:10 PM
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61. Wow.... I want to cry right now
This is the first time anyone has mirrored the same thing to me, I have had speech therapists check him out, but apparently he only does the repetition thing with me. and yes, it is sometimes set off by a random event like he wants to have a lollipop or wants a different shirt, etc...
I often blamed myself because I thought is was due to the trauma I had while pregnant with the abusive dad...but maybe this is just how he alters his vibration to deal with something he can't handle. and he has totally been doing it since he was a baby, then it became one or two words, now it's a whle sentence...wild.

It worries me that they will use the dreaded ADHD label once he hits public school. My mom is convinced he is "hypoglycemic" because he had a meltdown with her the other day ..but she uses a different kind of discipline,(thank god she doesn't spank anymore!) and I think he's just not used to it...not to mention my dad's energy is very similar to that abusive ex-husband, so he could be responding to that as well.
You know, I was the one in MY family who was "different" too...so maybe that's a big part of the bond. I think I am more protective of him because of the abuse thing while he was in utero... And while I love my other kids, there is a really special bond with this little guy...he is really my little loverboy. I nursed him later than the others and I know he is still very "corded" into me as well...but he "should" be at 5...it will shift all too soon! And then he will be saying "mom, don;t hug me in front of my friends!"
:(

I am looking forward to working with his energy over the next few weks to teach him grounding before he goes to school. Hopefully it will help his focus too.

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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:26 PM
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63. Aw, JG...
:hug:

There are more of us out there than we know. When I was in California last week, I interviewed a woman in California who owns a New Age Store for an assignment with my magazine. We really bonded over identical experiences with our 4-year-olds. It was a relief to ME that her son also needs to sleep in their bed all the time, etc. Basically we came to the conclusion that these kids know exactly what they need, and they know how to get it! We live to serve.
:rofl:

Today I took Jr. to the river and we picked out some cool stones. I had also planned to teach him how to sit under a tree and ground himself, but it started to pour, so that's going to have to wait for another day.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:54 PM
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65. Yes they do know what they need...and it's a real paradigm shift
The old way was for the parents to tell the child what's what...

THESE kids show US how to help them!

:hug: thanks for being a good sounding borad, MG and let''s keep eachother informed as we work with these littlke geniuses.

ps
I taught the little ones to ground by seeing their own crystal in the center of the earth, one shaped just for the - and bringing it up to wrap the colored light areound their waist like a rope... we try to do it each night before bed. I invoke the protection as they fall asleep... so far, so good :)
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:42 PM
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70. And thanks to you too, JG
PM me anytime! :hi:
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 12:29 AM
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47. Night anxiety
I was like that as a kid. I was convinced there were monsters everywhere and bad aliens were going to abduct me. My Dad was always watching UFO shows about abductions which scared the you know what out of me. Then there was the whispering about something that happened to an Aunt & Uncle getting chased by one for over an hour in the backwoods of Maine. :hide: These days I wonder how much was people's anxieties I was picking up at night including the sis who shared my room. The bodyworker I go to pointed out to me once that people discharge a lot of their daily stress at night and that I might have been tuning into that because I was even more open at night. I also had a very bad past life which might have leaked through were I was abducted by humans at night and locked in a dungeon where I later died. IT would make sense for night time related past life anxiety to leak through then.

On a less bad note even too much good energy can be a negative thing. I know a few people who got visited by good spirit beings as children and night and were accidentally overloaded by their energy or just was so surprised it scared them. Or look at how the full moon can effect even adults. It's usually a good energy but overwhelming at times until we can figure out ways to cope better and not get our circuits overloaded.


Even if it is the case that MG Jr truly needs to experience others emotions you may wish to check with his highself and guides to see if it could be done at a bit slower rate. sometimes our guides haven't been in body in a while and forget how overwhelming things can be at times. or accidents occur and we open up too soon or at a faster rate than intended. it is like with the affirmation I gave my Mom as she tends to take on other's problems and get neck and shoulder pains 'I release responsabilities that are not truly my own'. If you feel it is right check and see if even a small amount of this is not truly part of his path and maybe even if they could at least tone things down at night until he is older and better able to deal. I don't want to thrwart anyone's karma, I just like making sure the path isn't harder than necessary.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 05:34 PM
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58. I wrote an article on ghosts last month
and in my research I found out that these little shining lights are so bright to entities (ghosts but also other beings) that they're just drawn to them, all excited that someone can see them, and they bug the heck out of them--not meaning to bother them, just eager to communicate. That's why I've fortified his room and raise a shield each night--so that kind of disturbance is minimal to him.

I do recall reading about asking higher selves to slow down with little kids. I will have to do that, definitely. :hi:
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:57 PM
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66. Friendly Entities
That makes so much sense! Even all they wanted to do was say hi to the cute kid coochiecoo it can be startling to wake up with glow in the dark spirits hanging around the room.

I have had to ask my guides to slow things down a few times and my psychic friend was the one who pointed out that many guides haven't been in body for so long they forgot how easy it is to overload the physical form. She said to ask the ones who haven't been incarnated recently to remember and take that into account when working with me from then on. I also had to do that when I was first attune to Reiki. I felt like Niagra Falls was trying to come through me who was the size of a garden hose. I had to ask my Reiki guide to cut the flow by half until my body adjusted to carrying that amount of energy over time.
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:34 PM
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23. Concentrate on having him experience himself in nature, as you mentioned
Edited on Thu Jul-17-08 08:35 PM by DemExpat
in one of your posts, MG.

I found with my 2 little ones that allowing them to play with friends everyday, dig and play in sand at a playground, swim, play with clay, paints and colors all helped them put form to their feelings and experiences and to gain confidence in their physical bodies.

I got many good tips from pre-school and child development ideas from Rudolf Steiner's Waldorf schools, especially for the young ones to shield them from the incredible images that they have to process from televisions and movies.
I did not agree with their philosophy in all aspects, but the authors' sensitivity to sensitive children was a facet sorely lacking in more mainstream books on childcare and development IMO.

I don't feel shielding them all through their youth is necessarily good - for as you say they need to develop tools to live in this world comfortably - but that's the art of raising kids!

But...I don't want my kid to be sad! I don't want him to be so exposed to the world that he absorbs other people's emotions! (When he was really small--not even 2--he would get upset if he heard another child crying and couldn't differentiate between what he was feeling and what the other child was feeling.)
You know, not all emotions are negative, sad ones that are out there for us to absorb. Do you think that your son had the same reaction to another child's joy and fun, that he could not differentiate this? Expose him to as much experience with his senses as he wants, and to as many fun and exciting things as you can offer him to balance out the high sensitivity, seriousness and possible introversion. Sadness too.

That book The Highly Sensitive Person is indeed a great support for people like us. I wonder if she has written a book since on highly sensitive children and how to offer them guidance?

DemEx
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:44 PM
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24. Hi, DemEx! Dr. Aron did indeed write a book about ...
Highly Sensitive Children. Here's the link to a page about the issue:

http://www.hsperson.com/pages/child.htm

I haven't read that particular book, but I suspect that it's very good.

:hi:

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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:47 PM
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26. Yes, I found it just now! Looks like a very good support book to have.
:hi:

DemEx
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:45 PM
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25. YES, Elaine Aron does have a book on The Highly Sensitive Child.
I would have added this book to my little library when my kids were young! Could have used it especially with my son.

http://www.hsperson.com/pages/child.htm

Check out these chapter topics:

Chapters in The Highly Sensitive Child:

Sensitivity--
A Better Light on "Shy" and "Fussy" Children
Explains the trait thoroughly, including research evidence.
Fasten Your Seat Belts--
The Challenges of Raising an Exceptional Child
Describes the most likely problems and gets you started solving them.
When You the Parent Are Not Highly Sensitive--
Blessings in Disguise
Even though this is an innate trait, it often happens that a parent is not highly sensitive but the child is. This chapter shows you how to make that an advantage for both of you.
When You and Your Child Are Both Highly Sensitive--
And What About the Rest of Your Family's Temperament?
Discusses the advantages and disadvantages of having the same temperament as your child and also considers the temperament of other family members.
Four Keys to Raising a Joyous HSC--
Self-Esteem, Shame-Reduction, Wise Discipline, and Knowing How to Discuss Sensitivity
Focusing on the most important issues, whatever the age of a child.

The rest of the book is on each stage of raising your sensitive child, with many practical tips as well as research findings on what really works with these particular children.

Off to the Right Start--
Soothing and Attuning to Highly Sensitive Infants
Toddlers and Preschoolers at Home--
Adapting to Change and Dealing with Overstimulation
Toddlers and Preschoolers Out in the World--
Helping Them Feel Successful in New Situations
School-Age HSCs--
Resolving Problems at Home
School-Age HSCs--
Helping Your Child Enjoy the Classroom and Social Life
Sensitive Adolescents and Young Adults--
The Delicate Task of Launching a Spirited, Seaworthy Vessel
Tips for Teachers (you can give them to your child's teacher).


Bet there are some good tips in there to help you and your husband out!

DemEx
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:52 PM
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27. I just ordered it from Amazon!
Thanks for the tip, DemEx. This looks perfect! :hi:
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 09:33 PM
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30. I used various supports like books on child care and development,
astrological chart interpretations, dietary theories, Homeopathy, etc., and I must say that I got valid and helpful advice and support from them all!
Also talking to other mothers/friends!

:hi:

DemEx
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:54 PM
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28. I was hoping to find a Waldorf school in the area
Alas, some folks attempted one for a few years but it closed before MG Jr. was 1. They were trying to start it up again, but I haven't heard anything more about it since, so I guess they didn't succeed.

Good question about his absorbing happy emotions. If he's like I was, then yes, he is, but he doesn't talk about those--just the ones that disturb him.
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 09:29 PM
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29. Maybe just as well if the school isn't well-established there yet.
Edited on Thu Jul-17-08 09:41 PM by DemExpat
That could be a disaster too....

I had my duaghter go to a good Waldorf school here but only for a few months as she was miserable there, far too confining and limiting for her. She wanted to experience it all and in her way, and did much better, and was perfectly happy, at a good public school.
But the books I read about children from that philosophy really struck a chord with me, ideas about the tempermental types, birth order in families, how children develop in the world, diet, etc. They all just had a loving dimension to them that I didn't find anywhere else in literature and information.

My son wasn't happy at school ANYWHERE, anytime. He had great friends but hated the regimen of it all. That was quite a struggle and unhappy experience for him as well as for us. While testing showed high intelligence and aptitude. And we do do all we can sometimes to find good solutions!

He is a happy, (also in a relationship) well-adjusted 24 year old now, but did not continue education after highschool, so there are some uncertainties ahead for him which he will hopefully work out.

It is so good that your son can talk to you about his feelings!
So perhaps make a point of sharing more of the joyful, light-hearted stuff with him as well.

Enjoy your dear son, MG, as I know you do, for even with the worries and fretting it passes far too quickly IMO!

DemEx
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 02:15 AM
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48. good idea
it may be worthwhile to let him communicate with nature...but he will do so when he is ready. Just having him out in the garden, while you plant flowers or just plain old sitting there enjoying the weekend under a tree in your yard etc. Give him subtle opportunities to explore.
Watch, he will start communicating with the plants and trees. They will give him balancing energies, unlike the two and four leggeds - the sentient beings in your yard do not seem to have any karma issues..
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:11 AM
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32. some channelings on indigos and crystals which might be of use
I have personally found many of her channelings useful so hopefully you will find something in the Indigo/Crystal section here: http://starchildglobal.com/starchild/articles.html
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 10:26 AM
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36. Ooh, interesting link!
Thanks for that! I just wrote an article on crystal children myself--check your PM for the link!
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 01:31 PM
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38. Hmmm 'indigo scout'
-born in the 50s I must be one of those! :hi:
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 02:10 PM
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39. Yeppers!
I was born in '66. We're rare birds, but we're kinda obvious! :D
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 12:40 PM
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52. I believe that sensitives
have been 'diagnosed' as hysterical or as (I love this one) suffering from melancholy and institutionalized. I honor my ancestors who were put away, knowing that it is likely they too were indigoes in an extremely stoic and rigid environment, with NO support whatsoever. When I meditate I honor them in the dreamtime and dedicate my life of learning to those who were not allowed to express their true selves in this life.
We institutionalize our mystics and sensitives, or medicate them and convince them that they have a disease.
I find it interesting the existence at the other end of the human spectrum are the sociopaths who feel NOTHING, no empathy whatsoever, and these are the types that end up in power. This unfortunate lesson, about the types of people who are predatory, MUST be taught eventually to all children, both in order to identify their energy and behavior and protect oneself, and as a society to learn not to allow these people to gain positions of power!!
I honor all the sensitive parents here who nurture their children and see them for who they really are~~Namaste.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 05:38 PM
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59. That's a great idea, Windoe
Honoring your ancestors in the dreamtime. :applause:

Sociopaths in power--I think W is the ultimate example of that (and Cheney and the other henchmen too), and I sincerely hope that because we have now reached the extreme, the pendulum will start to swing back the other way.

Namaste!
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Nia Zuri Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 02:23 PM
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71. Do you have other children? If so is there more than 5 yrs difference
There could be a more prosaic explanation. You didn't mention whether you have other children. Sometimes only children are more sensitive because they have thinner skin, they are unaccostomed to the regular interplay with others nad emotional rough housing that siblings bring. This is something I have noticed with my own son. He is an only child and extremely sensitive...there is also much more time for introspection and quiet reflectiion when you're an only and there is a certain degree of lonliness. He is very social but also naturally empathetic, probably because he hasn;t been subject to much of the taunting and cruely that other kids can inflict. I think that he is much more in tuen with what is right and just as a result. I was six years younger than the next sibling (the equivalent of being an only) and also felt kind of sad much of the time. Hate to even bring it up, but there could be some depression happening there as well. Erhart Tolle's New Earth discusses this "pain bodies" in adults and children at length in his new book.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 03:04 PM
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72. Yes, he's an "only"
And what you said is quite true, about nobody being there to "pick on him". My brother is 15 years older than I am, so I was pretty much raised as an only as well; I recognize his situation and remember what it felt like.

No worries about mentioning depression--I realize there is a touch of that at the moment, because he's going through a major change in his schedule. He finished preschool in May, then we visited my brother in California for two weeks where he had lots of people all crammed into one house and always something going on (a treat for him), and then--bam--he came back home to relative peace and quiet and had to start kindergarten prep classes almost immediately. It was too much for his little 4 YO self to take, especially because he was already apprehensive about leaving his old school and starting a new one.

Lately he's been getting kind of droopy, saying he's sad about "things that go away and don't come back". He won't admit that it's about his change of schools and not seeing his grandmother as much (she babysat a lot because the preschool was closer to her house), but I have a sneaking suspicion that that's the case.

Hence my efforts to teach him some coping tools, as well as keeping him busy enough that he doesn't have too much time to dwell on it, although I encourage him to talk about it when he gets down in the mouth.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 03:22 PM
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73. Hi, MG
This bit about being sad about "things that go away and don't come back" .. reminded me of something that happened when I was 4 y/o. We lived in the country. I had to go into the hospital to have my tonsils removed. After I returned, my pet rabbit was gone. Recently I thought to ask my mother why they got rid of my pet rabbit. She said I never had a pet rabbit. What I can figure out now, is that there must have been a wild baby rabbit who came up to the porch and let me play with it, but it was not a "pet". I have been sad a half a century about my rabbit never understanding that it wasn't "mine". Could there be something like that going on with him too?
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 06:26 PM
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75. Hi, VSM!
OMG I am so sorry to hear about the bunny! I totally understand how that feels! As for MG Jr., he's a bit Type A, like me, so he doesn't do well when his routine is trashed. So not seeing grandma as much as he used to, and switching schools, plus having to shift gears after being in California for two weeks, is taking a toll on him. But I think in a little while he'll adjust okay--a bit at a time. :hi:
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 04:06 PM
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74. I'm the mum of an only kid though I foolishly thought I'd have two.
Edited on Mon Jul-21-08 04:07 PM by stellanoir
As to "things that go away and don't come back" consider telling him that his sometimes bossy self appointed cyber fairy godmother said,

"Energy cannot be created or destroyed" It simply transforms.

Or as I used to tell my kid when stuff broke, I quoted Dr. Who and said "entropy is a galactic problem."

It was fairly funny to say to a two year old. I'd guess that "bright eyes" will get it.

another :grouphug:


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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 06:30 PM
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76. Indeed--we had that conversation last night
He was getting down in the dumps because the weekend was ending and he realized he was going to have to go back to school the next day instead of to grandma's like he used to, so we had a chat with Kwan Yin and I also showed him how to brush off his aura as Shallah reminded me. He did better after that, but he wanted me to tell all the kitties (individually) how he was feeling. :)
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