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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 06:53 PM
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Economic crisis--all part of the plan (Matthew message from July)
Matthew pegs it once again...

3. The word from the White House, that the economy is basically sound, rings hollow when economists in the States and other countries are being quoted with conflicting assessments. Published statistics alone—although rosier than the actual figures of unemployment, inflation, home foreclosures, losses in the retail sector and small businesses going under—are clear evidence of a national economy in dire straits. This is having a worldwide boomerang effect as other nations are seriously impacted by the US debt and the shrinking value of the dollar. When that boomerang returns to US shores, the Federal Reserve will become known for what it is, a privately owned banking consortium that is one of the main causes of the national debt; and, like the entire world economy, which long has been rotten to the core, “the Fed” is collapsing under the untenable weight of avarice, deceit and corruption.

4. You have the great advantage of knowing that what is occurring is reformation—the current global system is imploding and a new system based in honesty and established on a sound foundation will replace it. In a change of such magnitude, it is natural that people who don't know what is transpiring are deeply concerned, and while leaders-at-the-ready will take every step to minimize confusion and expedite implementing changeover procedures, there will be hardships during the process. To tell you that everything will go perfectly smoothly would be both dishonest and a great disservice because the months ahead will present difficulties to many. You knew this when you so eagerly asked to participate in this unprecedented time in the universe, when myriad members of many civilizations are working jointly with Earth's residents to lift the planet out of low third density energies and into fourth and fifth densities. Furthermore, at the time you made your pre-birth agreement selections, you also knew that extensive cleansing measures would be required to rid the planet of the massive negativity that had accumulated over millennia, and you were prepared to experience those extreme conditions; however, the unflagging efforts of evolved beings off-planet produced such an abundance of light that the cleansing needs were substantially decreased.

5. Which is to say, you have the spiritual, emotional and intellectual strength to weather the current economic situation wherever you are living! When jobs become scarcer and food costs keep rising, even necessary travel is curtailed because of gas prices, homes are cold because there is no money for heating and children are hungry, good people become desperate and resort to whatever means they must to obtain basic necessities. There will be large losses of investments and anger, robberies, fear and rebellious crowds. Just as you would prepare for any potential emergency situation, it is sensible to have on hand some money, food, water, flashlights and other useful equipment. And especially, remain calm in knowing there is light at the end of this tunnel!

6. I hasten to say, there is a bright side right now—people who are experiencing less adversity are helping the ones who are more severely affected. This isn't based in “give and you shall receive”—however, do remember that the universal law of attraction is always in motion!—but rather, hearts keep opening with a compassionate and generous spirit, and the wish to help others becomes the will and the way to do so. With joy we are seeing the increase in sharing of resources with those who are most needy! The light this is generating is accomplishing much more than uplifting spirits; it is helping to speed the transition from the broken corrupt system to an honorable and equitable system. Another heartwarming development is the growing exchange of goods and services as a practical way to manage, and you will see that bartering as part of the new basis for commerce will be very satisfying indeed.


http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=90
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 07:52 PM
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1. Yes, it's really interesting how right several of our regular authors...
have been. Karen Bishop has also been predicting this for a while. She has also spoken quite a bit about bartering.

The other thing that I've been thinking about is that everything that is happening fits in exactly the way the Mayan Calendar's Fifth Night is supposed to be.

I'm not at all surprised that any of this is happening given the stuff that I've gotten from spiritual sources.

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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 11:38 AM
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9. That's true--Karen does talk a lot about different ways to support ourselves
Talking about our lifestyle shifting along with the Shift. But I think Matthew has been the most vocal about the world economic system collapsing, specifically. He dialed it back after the confusion about his statement about the dollar becoming worthless an debts being forgiven (when too many people thought he meant that everyone's credit card bills wouldn't have to be paid), but he stuck to his guns, even if it was an unpopular prediction.

I'm not surprised in the least either. Nor am I too worried. Yeah, it's going to be a bumpy ride, but nothing we can't survive. Then again, the MG clan's got nothing, so we've got nothing to lose! :evilgrin:
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:28 PM
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2. I hate to sound so detached...
but I totlly see this as a breaking down in order to rebuild....

I'm ready to cash in MY chips and go live on the Res! Just a yurt and a crwwk and some land, is all I need! ;)
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Nia Zuri Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:12 PM
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3. I was just thinking about this and wondering if I should post!!!!
I'm starting to believe this dude. Even though it seems a bit off the wall. "Bush clone" anyone? Commander Haddon? But it sure seems as if we're seeing his prediction come to pass. I remember during 2004, he had alluded to Kerry and Bush both being Illuminati and saying it wouldn't matter much who won, but that later some faction of the Illuminati (llluminati lite?) would grow tired of the darkness and start to set things up for a slightly improved way. Wasn't it Kerry who ushered Obama onto the national scene? in the last message it said that in a sense Obama is playing the game, but once elected will truly begin to see himself as a lightworker whoe purpose is to help to help to bring about true change or something to that effect. Matthew has also always maintained that there would not be another nuclear was even though Bush and his buddies had a major hardon for one.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:31 PM
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4. Yes
I do think that what we are seeing is a universal "correction", and, I have envisioned Obama being true to his lightworker origins once in office.

I have been breathing a sigh of relief.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:50 PM
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5. Isn't it time for a Sept. journal from him??
I'm believing him more and more. I don't know how I feel about John Kerry being one of the "illuminati" though. I find it very hard to believe, because Obama is using many, many of his talking points and ideas in his campaign. They seem to be of one mind, only Barack has more fire and charisma. I think it would have made a big difference had Kerry not been robbed of the votes. Do you really think we would be in the boat we're in now? But then again, a lot of us thought John Edwards was the best thing since shake and bake!!:rofl:
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 07:01 AM
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6. I had to pop in here, since I was one of those who supported
Edited on Sat Sep-20-08 07:02 AM by mother earth
JE. Edwards' marriage may be his personal failure, but it in no way lessens the importance of what he was saying and what all of us who supported him felt and still do. Sorry, discerning christian, just needed to speak up for the Edwardians.

I do agree with you about Kerry, there's no way we would've been brought down like this under him.

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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 09:41 PM
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20. I truly apologize.......
to you and the many Edwards supporters here on the forum. I did not intend to belittle him because of his marital mistakes. Yes he had a good message, and excellent message! I will leave it at that. If this had come out (should he have won the nomination) we would have LOST again. Bill Clinton made the same mistake, as did other great pols including Kennedy. It does affect a Presidency though when you have things to hide, but in the long run, we all have feet of clay.Many GREAT men have fallen down this slippery slope. I hope you'll all forgive me. I do still love me some John Kerry though!!:evilgrin:
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 10:14 PM
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21. I understood what you meant, discerning christian.
I was an Edwards supporter. My first choice was Dennis Kucinich and then John Edwards. Edwards is still a good man, but you're right... if he had won the nomination, the revelation of his affair would have been a fatal blow to his candidacy. It's so easy for us to put politicians and people we respect on a pedestal, and I think that we need to stop doing that. I'm trying not to do that with Obama, even though I greatly respect him.

:hug:

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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 12:35 PM
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22. No apologies necessary, it was a letdown of course, but his
message was just so near and dear to many hearts. It was just a heck of way to get bumped, I still feel we were the losers. Thanks, discerning christian.
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Proud_Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 09:58 AM
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7. I found this on another site, but it's not on his for some reason
Edited on Sat Sep-20-08 10:01 AM by Proud_Lefty
Message from Matthew 9/14/08

This is Matthew with loving greetings and our perspective of the potential for a "very substantial and disruptive" event, perhaps even another "9/11," happening during the next sixty days. The collective consciousness, or universal mind, that some individuals have the ability to tap into includes all thought forms, both light and dark, from The Beginning of Creation. Relative to dark thought forms, those of antiquity were attracted by those in the planning of "9/11," and the force of that combined energy enabled the Illuminati to manifest that tragic day. That is when Earth chose never again to experience such death and destruction at the hands of dark ones, and in honoring her free will choice, God authorized off-planet helpers to use their technology to prevent all such unconscionable attempts anywhere in the world. Since then they have done so successfully on as many as a dozen occasions.

Let us speak of this moment. The activity in Earth's energy field of potential is in as much foment as we have ever seen, with ever-increasing light streamers to preclude more zig-zagging of the kind the dark ones have been causing by lashing out in all directions in deepening desperation and fear. These Earth puppets of the darkness have been seeing their power erode to the extent that it is "do or die" time, and despite their failure in plot after plot, they feel that they still have a chance to prevail if they can prevent both of the following scenarios that indeed will be "very substantial and disruptive" events. They cannot prevent either.

First, the undeniable presence of other civilizations. If safety cannot be assured for people on the planet and souls in the star nations themselves for their announced appearance October 14, the delay in that occurrence would not be lengthy--simply, the time for this has come. And when it happens, it will be extremely disruptive especially within the US government, which long has been under Illuminati control and thus denied even the possibility of other civilizations' existence, much less admit that extraterrestrials have met with its leaders and the consequences meted out to those beings who came with only peaceful intentions. Second, the truth about who planned and executed "9/11." In the higher vibrations in which Earth is now orbiting, that truth cannot be hidden much longer; when it emerges along with its even deeper purpose than controlling oil resources in the Mideast, which is to dominate the entire planet and kill or enslave its peoples, the Illuminati's long reign of terror will meet its just end. The global impact of these two major events is part of the ongoing world transformation and spiritual renewal of Earth's humankind, the God-blessed "ascension" joint venture with your space brotherhood that all of you on the planet chose in pre-birth agreements to be participants.

It is equally important that you know what other individuals who also have the ability to tap into the collective consciousness are seeing. Many are accurately seeing what we have described in Earth's Golden Age --the loving, peaceful life of all peoples, the restoration of your planet's health and beauty, the harmonious co-existence of humankind with all of Nature. In this wondrous Earth that is on the near horizon and already created in the continuum, there is no fear, no violence or greed or bigotry or any other divisiveness that thrives in a third density world. The choice is yours as to which world you want to be in, but because of our unconditional love for every soul, we pray you will choose the one of love and peace.

Much more about Matthew through http://www.matthewbooks.com

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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 11:06 AM
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8. That one doesn't sound like Matthew's writing.
It sounds like a different entity to me. :shrug:
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Proud_Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 01:31 PM
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14. I got it from Galactic Friends
Edited on Sat Sep-20-08 01:36 PM by Proud_Lefty
http://www.galacticfriends.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3431&Itemid=93

I agree. I thought it sounded different as well, but I was confused as the proper site was still put on the bottom of it. It might have originated from that other website, but I never go there so I'm not sure.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 11:53 AM
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10. Did you get this from Godlike Productions, PL?
If so, that site can be kind of dicey--some good stuff, a lot of dreck. :shrug:
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 08:10 PM
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19. That doesn't sound like Matthew at all.
Whoever wrote it copied some of his common phrasing but the tone is not the same. It looks like they just added the link to make it look legitimate. And... "Much more about Matthew through http://www.matthewbooks.com " ???
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 12:00 PM
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11. Yes!
His messages are usually dated close to the end of the month. Still, I check the site practically daily, in case he feels like posting early!
:rofl:

I believe that Kerry is part of the shadow government--or at least was privy to it. Think of how fast he conceded, even though he said repeatedly he was going to make sure every vote was counted. Even Edwards got pissed at him, and they had a blowout argument, but Kerry backed down anyway.

I get the impression that Obama has been approached by the PTB and he's playing along to an extent. After all, if he wants a decent chance at this (and not have any harm come to his family), he has to comply. If I recall correctly, all presidential candidates are approached and introduced to the concept of a shadow government if they didn't know about it already.

(As for Edwards--I was for him too, and I still think he's a decent guy who made one BIG mistake. I can't condemn him for eternity for being human.)
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Nia Zuri Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 01:08 PM
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12. What is PTB? I'm wondering if Edwards was set up...
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 06:28 PM
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17. Powers that be
Governor Spitzer was set up.
Don't know about Edwards.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 06:29 PM
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18. The Powers That Be
The shadow government, the illuminati, the star chamber--call it what you will, they're the ruling elite behind the appearance of government, and they call all the shots. Matthew talks about them a lot--traditionally the ruling families who have been pulling the strings for the past several hundred years.

I do believe Edwards was set up. Anybody who runs for office and says "I'm going after big business" or promises to take down the ruling elite gets pegged like Edwards was.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 01:14 PM
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13. What Edwards did is no different than what a lot of men in power do.
I mean the Kennedys were notorious for their affairs. Imagine if they would of had to drop out of public life, all the good that all of them did accomplish wouldn't have happened. I hope to see Edwards back in public life in the future. He still has too much to contribute and can make a big difference yet..
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Proud_Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 01:35 PM
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15. I couldn't agree more
John Edwards and Elizabeth could have done so much good. I felt he was receiving many more vote in the primaries than he was getting credit for. Obviously, they wanted him out of the way before too many got together, figured it out, and demanded that he be credited for what he deserved. Something really crappy happened there.
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-08 02:28 PM
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16. I agree that Edwards was probably set up. I also think that
Spitzer was set up. If anyone is a threat to TPTB they fall one way or the other. So, for that matter, I won't fault Kerry for his concession, as we truly don't know what may have come into play. I do wonder why, why, why, so many good elected people are also turning a blind eye....if they can't buy you, they find another way.

As much as we knew things were going to hit the fan, with the Fifth Night esp., it's amazing to see it all play out. A wild ride indeed, until Nov. 12th.
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 04:59 PM
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23. anyone else struck by the
Assination attempt by Clinton's? I really felt that in my heart - her making the case that Bobby Kennedy was assinated just was too weird - it was a warning, luckily for us, it didn't work.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 05:35 PM
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24. indeed, it is--as hard as it is..pluto in capricorn
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