Role of Illuminati in current financial crisis?

[Sanity Claws]

This financial crisis was just waiting to happen. It is interesting how it happened now, at the end of *'s administration. For a while, I thought that Bush and his co-conspirators had mistimed this disaster. I thought they wanted it to happen in December after the election so McCain could get elected.
On second thought, I believe that it was timed to occur now because they knew the Dems would get elected and they needed to make these changes now before the Dems took office.
Does anyone have a feel or insight on why the financial crisis occurred now as opposed to a different time? Or whether the Illuminati or The Powers That Be deliberately brought on the disaster at this time?

[Why Syzygy]

1. It was a limited time ponzi.

It was never set up for sustainability. There was a window of "opportunity" for the takers. Of course they probably hoped it would stay open longer. Once the legislation is tightened again, their schemes won't be workable.

[Cleita]

2. I hope the tightened legislation sticks this time.

One of these days there will be no room or resources for recovery if this cyclical economic chaos continues further.

[Bluestar]

3. My guide has been very clear on this

The Illuminati have lost all power. They had no control over the financial crisis and their "over-reaching" is what caused it. This energy has been building for a long time and finally reached the tipping point.

This has to occur as the Illuminati fall, as our financial system is what gives them their power over the people. It will continue to fall, as the re-distribution of wealth occurs. A new, fair and equal system will replace it. Next to fall are religions and governments.

Lightworkers will be given new opportunities to make money, as they are finally recognized for their worth to corporations and others. Those who don't turn to the light will be financially affected, but light workers will be taken care of more and more. You will begin to see Illuminati either turn to the light, or you will see their lives are destroyed. It is in the energy phase right now (money is energy), it will turn physical later. Illuminati will have multiple opportunities to turn to the light between now and 2012 when the shift will be complete. Those who don't turn to the light will have to leave the planet, as they will not be able to stand the energy.

[Fire Walk With Me]

5. Thanks for your post.

"Next to fall are religions and governments."

We are definitely beginning to see this in terms of religion!

[Delphinus]

7. Thank the Universe for that!

(Religions falling)

[Fire Walk With Me]

8. "Religion is for those who are afraid of hell.

Spirituality is for those who have already been there."

[Callie McAllie]

12. Great quote

I may start another thread on a notion my husband raised the other night. The devotion that some folks have to the Bible is akin to the devotion that some (others) have to comic books. We had just watched The Hulk when he came up with that.

[Mist]

14. The illuminati are in the process of losing power, but they are far from powerless. I think

the fact that more people know about them, and their ideas and goals, is rattling them a bit, and causing them to make mistakes and speed up their timetable.

Two links with David Wilcock sharing some of what he knows about the illuminati:

David Wilcock’s take on illuminati doings is part of the extended conversation David has with Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan earlier this year. About half way in David shares some of what he knows about the Rothschild illuminati, as well as other branches of the illuminati. By no means are all the illuminati members on the same page re: goals and timing. Here’s that link:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=david+wilcock+2008&hl=en&emb=0&aq=2&oq=david+wilcock#

Below is a link for a more recent phone conversation between David, Kerry, and Bill. David goes into some interesting background on the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers. There seems to be a separating of goals, and of ways and means, between some of the Illuminati. The info on Illuminati history and their current goals starts about a third of the way in.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=david+wilcock+2008&hl=en&emb=0&aq=2&oq=david+wilcock#

I don't doubt the illuminati are quite busy these days, and I think they're far from powerless, though, as I said above, they are in the process of devolving.

The financial breakdown was in fact part of their plan.

[MorningGlow]

4. They took the money and ran

They took as much as they could while the getting was good, but they saw the signs that their time was running out, so they looted as much as they could at the last minute. Bonus: They got to leave the mess for the Dems to clean up, and when the Dems "can't" fix the mess in record time, they'll start whinging about how Dem's "can't fix anything" and the country "should" elect Repubs next time, setting up another chance for them to get their hands on the reins of power again. But it won't work. :evilgrin:

[SeattleGirl]

6. "But it won't work."

And thank The Maker for that!

I think we've had all that we can stand and more from these greedy people.

[northernlights]

9. yup, yup and yup

It was a house of cards destined to fall. I don't think they could control the timing of the fall, but they set it up so they could get one last mad loot, via the wall street bailout.

Bluestar, I hope your guides are right. I'm still waiting to get my assignment, or sense that I'm on the right path. Pre-med sciences are hard enough without questioning the path...I'd hate to think I was working this hard to maintain my 4.0, only to reach my 5th or 6th dead end (I'm losing track of failed false starts, lol).

[stellanoir]

10. Pluto soon will be in Capricorn.

My son's epi-generation has Neptune and Uranus (some of the older ones have Saturn there as well) in Capricorn.

Capricorn rules financial institutions and banks and governments.

I often tell him and his buddies and the kids I counsel professionally that there is a tremendous disconnect between how we prepare kids to specify their goals at a time in their lives that could ideally be exploratory and they could be like the veritable kids in a candy store. It is also very rare for people to only do one thing with their lives especially when corporations have roasted so many older folks for their hard earned pensions. As a result many people under 35 often change jobs like underwear.

In short: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHnMv3Ihycc

The illuminati has been pulling this crap pretty much since the beginning of recorded history. It's tiresome and a completely predictable entire yawn fest.

Basically sometimes things have to fall apart before they can come together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vAqekT-GuA

We'll work this out over time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b7qaSxuZUg

Not to worry. I know as well as I can know anything that their influence is on the wane and ours more spirtually wholistic and progressive influence is waxing. Furthermore, far more than a few of us have several tricks up our sleeves.

Stay tuned.

:)

[katty]

11. breakdown is upon us-the old forms are cracking up/dying out

[Callie McAllie]

13. I remember when W gave out the economic stimulus checks

thinking what a stupid idea that was. Now I believe it was an attempt to keep enough liquidity in the country to stave off the credit freeze that they knew was coming, hold it off until after the election. But they couldn't control it. And most people just used their stimulus check to pay down their credit card debt. Or buy a big item manufactured in China, as I did.

[Why Syzygy]

15. Freeman

This guy has a lot of information about the Illuminati.
http://freemantv.liber.us/


I took a gamble and highlighted a date for a world changing event.
This is dangerous for one that wants to keep his credibility. I felt
it necessary to take this risk to further unveil the matrix we live
in.

I highlighted 10/13 because of its Templar connection and this
connection to the White House Cornerstone.

Consider that on the Pope's birthday he was celebrating with W at the
White House. On Hitler's birthday, the Pope visited ground zero and
gave a speech asking for eternal light. On Friday the 13th, W met
with the Pope in St. John's Tower at the Vatican. This was highly
irregular. The Templar and Masons worship the St. John.

Friday the 13th is infamous because on Friday, 10/13 1307 the Pope and
the King of France burnt the Templar at the stake. Just for a bit more
synchronicity or ritual, Washington DC was purchased from a man named
Pope and the land was known as Rome.

Now, on 10/13 we have the biggest banking scandal this country has
ever known. Soon, 10/13 will be known as an event surpassing 9/11 for
tyranny.
I should have known that the 10/13 date would involve the banking industry being that the Templar started the banking system we know today. Some, like Michael Ventura are saying, 10/13 was bigger than 9/11.
http://thefreemanperspective.blogspot.com/2008/10/on-1013.html


Bigger Than 9/11: On Monday, Oct. 13, Secretary Paulson and Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke invited the CEOs of our nine biggest banks to a meeting in Washington, D.C. The CEOs were not told why. "To their astonishment, they were each handed a one-page document that said they agreed to sell shares to the government, then said they must sign it before they left" (The New York Times, Oct. 15). They argued, but they signed. The article goes on to note that "just days earlier" Paulson had vigorously rejected this plan. "Analysts say the United States was forced to shift policy in part because Britain and other European countries announced plans to recapitalize their banks and backstop bank lending. But unlike in Britain, the Treasury secretary presented his plan as an offer the banks could not refuse."
History will record this crisis as more important by far than 9/11. The 9/11 attacks left us with many choices. We chose badly (the PATRIOT Act, the invasion of Iraq), but we did the choosing. The world begged us to do otherwise. We told them to shove it. But when Sarkozy says, "We want a new world to come out of this" (Newsweek, Oct. 20, p.25) and Germany's finance minister adds that "America lose its role as 'financial superpower'" (The Economist, Oct. 2, p.55) – that's the sound of a fat lady singing.
The economic future of the United States is no longer in the hands of the United States.
Letters at 3AM
Bigger Than 9/11
BY MICHAEL VENTURA
http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/column?oid=oid%3A693603