This Pluto in Capricorn is really pretty simple actually...

[ricochetastroman]

There are some "acquaintances" nearby who have been nailed stealing money from family members via their debit cards. They were caught on camera recently and are in big doo-doo. The time it was "exposed" (it's been going on for months) was as Pluto was entering Capricorn. Many are afraid that this will "destroy the family as it comes out."

It may well do so. But the FAMILY WAS ALREADY EMPTY AND HOLLOW. Pluto ultimately exposed the decay that was within all along.

That is what you need to look for during this time.

Old hollow entities need to die and be reborn if possible, (Wall St., Detroit, US Govt, Republican Party, etc.)
If it is happening to you personally, help it, help the process of cleansing and purging. It will minimize the process and speed up the "death and rebirth" cycle.

Don't TRY to hide old crap or sit on it - if your shadow side has been bringing you and others grief, go to that universal confessional booth and cleanse it, face it, and LET IT GO.

Pluto WILL help you, directly related to your PURITY OF INTENTION... And the opposite as in the case stated above.

I can't tell you how many times I'm seeing this: People let go of the old crap that they were keeping alive in their mind and INSTANTLY all kind of great things start happening, and on a large scale.

I hope this helps you to see what is clearly happening in all countries now and possibly in your own world. God Bless :thumbsup:

[Angel Wings]

1. thanks! this is very insightful for me

[ricochetastroman]

2. Good, Dreamy

you give a lot of WIDE ANGLE thought, and you'll see it operating in EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE. It has all "caught up to us." This can be awful and it really can be wonderful! Let's hope for lots of the latter.

[davsand]

3. How very timely, Rick!

Been dealing with a really stressful issue at work with a co-worker. I can't give much detail about the work thing, but it has been a lot like the experience of going to a party with someone that gets bombed, makes a complete ass of himself and people are looking at YOU to fix the problem.

You can't force the idjit to leave that party, you are pissed at them for putting you IN that situation and you are finally starting to realize that your opinions have very little importance to the jerk...

Ain't nobody having much fun with this one, let me tell you.

Anyhow, I've been agonizing over the issue and how I feel about it--even to the point of having the "driving over a cliff anxiety dreams" due to the uncertainty of it all. Never really occurred to me that it maybe had some roots in Pluto's placement. You hit a home run with this:

"...the FAMILY WAS ALREADY EMPTY AND HOLLOW. Pluto ultimately exposed the decay that was within all along..."

Wow.



Laura

[I Have A Dream]

4. Thank you, Rick. I'm trying to view Pluto as a friend rather than a foe...

especially since I have 4 planets in Capricorn. I've always tried to live my life with integrity, so it will be interesting to see if it helps any.

Thanks again, Teach. :hi:

[ricochetastroman]

6. Exactly, you are a good student

that's precisely how to view it. Another way to look at it is, is the snake GLAD when it's time to shed the old skin?
Of course, maybe there's no glad or non-glad, it just happens, it transforms. No struggle. Pluto aches and pains are clearly due to holding on to the old.

good job ihad:applause:

[FirstLight]

5. You nailed it!

thanks, I am glad to have the confiumation right now...as my babbling and blubbering here as of late has been a great example.

AND - as I released and cleared the way, I did get the call I was waiting for about the job I really wanted...

I have a cold today, releassing more no doubt..
I am looking forward to what wil show up
starting a new intuition & meditation class tomorrow night

thanks again rick, for the always timely info! :hug:

[ricochetastroman]

7. I'm so happy for you.

Let me tell you a little story.
I've been "counseling" this young lady for 3 years.
She is marvelous, and kinda "innocent"
She's in the mortgage industry.
Not being a typical Aries due to too much Neptune (Pisces) she's been letting people walk all over her for a long time.
Now, Pluto is hitting her Mars, her aggressive ruler.
It is time for her to develop testosterone.
We walked together thru a tough divorce where she has been regaining her strength now.
She called me over the holidays, (Pluto was right on her Mars)
She kept saying, " I can't take it anymore! I can't live like this!, etc etc.)
"I'm gonna walk in Monday and quit my job!"
Her boss had become mean and destructive: translation: she was not using her Mars/assertive/aggressive nature so more getting walked was in order (that's how PL works). Her business being mortgages was going down the drain.
From a salary of $225,000/year she was down to borrowing money to make her house payments.
I told her when she called without looking at her chart, "YES, GO AHEAD! DO IT, QUIT YOUR JOB!" The time was write it was her letting go of the old.
She DID! She felt marvelous! Within three days she had a much better job offer with people she liked and a nice young beau made it on the scene too!

That's how PL works, it's actually quite a common story. Moral: When you go with Pluto, the bullies disappear, the crap leaves your life and good stuff starts pouring in like magic.

P.S. And everyone cleans out their basements

[davsand]

8. I just don't learn.

I just came back to this thread. Had not been here since this morning.

"When you go with Pluto, the bullies disappear, the crap leaves your life and good stuff starts pouring in like magic."

:banghead:

Can I keep what I have and put out feelers for a new gig?


Laura

[ricochetastroman]

10. Great Davsand

Relax and give your sore forehead a break. You are ON COURSE or you wouldn't even be responding to this thread. You can put out all the new feelers you want.

[MorningGlow]

9. I've cleared out just about everything there is to clear

Did that over the past two years. So, to be honest, I'm a little afraid of what Pluto is going to go after, considering how little I have left...
:scared:

[ricochetastroman]

11. It's not just

a matter of letting go of STUFF. It's much more a matter of hanging on to anything that keeps you from realizing your own personal power, such as attitudes, beliefs, etc. No reason to fear Pluto, it's your power emerging... if you look closely, you'll see that's what's happening and ride the new tidal wave to great success. Good luck.

[MorningGlow]

13. Yep, I should have been clearer

I quit my job working for "da man" and now freelance, I left my coven (and certain beliefs along with it that I realized weren't my own), I ditched some friends-who-weren't-really-friends...it was a real heavy-duty clearing! :crazy:

[ricochetastroman]

14. Very good stuff MG!

That's the kinda thing PL implies. Make the way clear SO YOU CAN DO YOUR THING WITH PEOPLE IN YOUR SIDE CAR THAT LOVE THE REAL YOU.
No extra weight.

Keep on keepin on!

As Neil Young put it in "The Thrasher" (on Rust Never Sleeps)
"They were just dead weight to me"
"Better down the road without that load..."

[FirstLight]

18. Ahhh, .....my deeer twin!

We are SO rocking this shift!

I am right there with you sistah! and we just keep on keeping on....

what is amazing to me right this moment is how little I am attached to the stuff I thought I was attached to, and how redily the new feeling comes in, that everything is as it should be....

are you digging it? :crazy:

[MorningGlow]

20. You know, it was so heartbreaking when it was happening

I was SO scared to quit my job--I had never NOT had a traditional job, be it full-time or part-time, since I was 15 years old! And leaving my coven--man, that was just unimaginable. I NEVER expected that to happen--leaving my de facto family, including my two oldest and best friends...?!

But you're right--once the stuff was gone, I didn't miss it. I occasionally miss my friends, but not who they are now--I miss who they used to be. So although I grieved for what was gone, I didn't feel like I was missing anything in the present, if you know what I mean.

Yes, all is as it should be. I can dig it! Can you dig it?
:rofl:

[ricochetastroman]

25. Boy, I like how you said that

Can I steal it? (ha) "I miss who they used to be." Wow

[MorningGlow]

31. It's all yours, Rick!

:hi:

[MorningGlow]

22. Something else I just thought of

I used to work with a young woman who was engaged and busy planning her wedding, plus building a house at the same time (LOTS of time on the phone yelling at either a wedding vendor or the house contractor). She seemed happy, and busy, and she was getting exactly what she wanted out of life. Then she caught her fiance cheating on her. Wedding was off, house was off, kicked him out of their place, she got a roommate, and suddenly was having a heck of a time paying her bills (especially monthly payments on her shiny red sports car).

She went through a period of depression, of course--cried a lot, gained some weight, etc.--but eventually came out the other side and wasn't missing her fiance (although she missed "her chance" to get married and all the usual trappings that entailed). But one day she said, "Catching him cheating was the worst day of my life."

Immediately, another coworker and I chorused, "No, that was the BEST day of your life!" She couldn't quite see it, but it was very clear--finding out about his true nature before they got married helped her dodge a really big bullet.

I always get the sense that when we feel like we're suffering and having something taken away from us, even if we can't quite tweak to why right at the moment, it's because we're being protected from something pretty major.

[ricochetastroman]

24. You b right on

datzit!

[stellanoir]

17. You have the delight of "bright eyes"

and a virtual tabula rasa.

Go with it pal.

[MorningGlow]

21. This is true

I have a t-shirt from Life Is Good. It's got a drinking glass on it. Below the glass it says "Half Full". That's my motto these days.

[ricochetastroman]

26. Yep

I can feel it all stirring, wow!

[Shallah Kali]

12. So in a way Pluto pushes your buttons to let you know they are there

so you can get rid of them?

I have been working for some time now to clean up personal stuff to reduce the misery it causes and also so there is some room for the happy emotions to do their thing. IT looks like now is an especially good time to do as much of this as I can with the celestial energies giving me a boost. When I did a transit chart about a month ago many of my outer planets were squaring off against themselves and each other including Pluto square Pluto & Uranus square Uranus :crazy: Maybe I am doing something right for once because I am doing pretty good so far.....

[ricochetastroman]

15. You are exactly right.

And it's way more complex than that. Uranus opposite Uranus is "mid-life crisis"... reclaiming your free self. You're on the right track too. You CAN get rid of them and it's not "pushes your buttons" it's much heavier than that. It's time to drop and BURN emotional baggage - I guess it's that simple.

[northernlights]

16. it fits some of where I'm at too...

I met with the biology dept. coordinator yesterday. It turns out the hospital where I might have been doing my clinicals is in serious financial trouble (brink of bankruptcy) and has multiple lawsuits.

The fact is, since day 1 I've been uncomfortable with working in the western healthcare system. They are good at some things, horrible at others. I didn't want to get sucked into the horrible parts or, frankly, exposed to antibiotic resistance bugs that reside at hospitals. I was nervous even about the 4 months clinicals.

She's looking at my transcripts and checking into her network. Sometimes there are internships that pay a small salary *and* give course credits. She's going to see exactly how many courses I will really need to take to get a BA in Biology. Apparently that will open a lot more career doors than the AS in MLT or the BS in MLT. It will take fewer courses than the BS in MLT... I may be able to complete it in the same timeframe as the AS.

So I'm hoping that this may be the door opening for me. Nice as it can be to pick and choose, I don't need a lot of open doors. Just one will do.

[FirstLight]

19. "...just one will do"

AMEN!

I am seeing it almost like that "field of probability" that doesn't solidify quite yet, and then the electron "pops" into focus ...

like time is slowing down and speeding up at the same ime, all is falling away (establishments going bankrupt, jobs and percieved "opportunities", which were really "dead end" ar "ilusions", are drying up and the new reality is pushing itself through the veil ...

all we can do is stand still and watch to see what "pops" into our vibration field.....

....am I correct, Rick?

[ricochetastroman]

27. You are definitely correct, IMHO

But

I don't think we stand by and watch. We get involved now more than ever. I don't know about you'ins, but I'm speaking out now more than ever. Go for it. I like what you said, speeding as it's slowing, very insightful.

[FirstLight]

32. so instead of standing still and seing what pops

...it is more of an action of letting the NON posibilities drift past and reaching INTO the field and grasping at what WE WANT to call into being...?

ya, that feels like more the idea! :lightbulb:

[ricochetastroman]

33. I find it...

it's more like NOT SUPPRESSING YOUR PASSIONS ANYMORE. period.
My clients who continue to suppress, rut row.
My clients who find the courage to not suppress (BECAUSE PLUTO IS YOUR POWER, AND BRINGS IT TO YOU) have great results
Pluto is your courage. The problem is: we get so used to living without it and can't believe when it really hits. Many of us, if we're honest with ourselves don't want the power. There is no going back with Pluto/Scorpio. That is precisely why many Scorps can get drawn into significant self-loathing, and they spread it around too if they got it. No sign is harder on themselves, not even Virgo.

[northernlights]

35. oh my...

"No sign is harder on themselves, not even Virgo."

Well that is just swell. I have sun, mercury and saturn in scorpio. With virgo moon and ascendant.

Am I hard on myself...much? :rofl: :banghead: :cry: :banghead: :cry: :rofl:

FWIW, I've always found myself to be "transformative," as in I seem to be the one who exposes the rotting, empty vessel. I take the losses, fix the mess as best I can, move on. But I can't take any more...truly can't.

I had passions. I seem to have lost them along the way. It's not that they're suppressed, so much as burned up and irrelevent in the overall scheme of things. I just want peace, roof, food and warmth (woke up to about 15 below not including wc).

[southerncrone]

37. Wow, Northernlights, we're almost twins! LOL

I, too, have Sun, Mercury and Saturn in Scorpio, as well as my ascendant! :hug:

I can relate about being the one to "expose the rotting vessel" deal, lose of passions & their irrelevance & being burned-out.....I'm identical there. I feel EXACTLY the same way!

I used to be very outgoing & social. The last few years, I've found my self retreating into my cocoon. I minimize my outside contact with society as much as I can now. There is a sense of depression & impending doom that I feel also. I had attributed this to the antics of the * cabal & my new career (teaching), because I see the decay of our society everyday in an up-close-&-personal way. There is such a lack of respect for our profession today, coupled w/low pay, & lost kids. It makes for a melancholy mix.

I've seriously been considering another career switch, even though I really love teaching, there are just too many obstacles in the way of teachers actually being ABLE to teach. Very frustrating. Coming from the business world, I've tried to rectify situations that could easily been "fixed", but the bureaucracy of the education web always prevents meaningful change. It's double frustrating because the kids are the ones losing in this mess. I'm tired of fighting it.

Maybe it's just Pluto nudging me.

[Flying Dream Blues]

23. Pluto transits are so powerful. When I had Pluto conjunct Mars

squaring natal Pluto, I got divorced, quit my job and went back to school to do something completely different. I also went on a huge spiritual quest (Mars in Sag) and as part of that, became a serious astrology student.

Now Pluto is conjuncting my Mercury, about to conjoin my Descendant and in 2010 will conjoin my Sun in the 7th. I'm so glad I have the previous experience to draw on because while it was intense and often painful, I can't imagine NOT having made those changes to my life's direction. It helps me be open to what is coming, and also to realize I can take an active role and shed the "snakeskin" a little easier.

Aside from the personal stuff, I am loving the idea of what Pluto in Cap is going to bring the world. The transformations should really be something. Talk about the dry rot being exposed!

Thanks, Rick...your posts are always so interesting and insightful.

[ricochetastroman]

28. Thank you TTLG, a preview of the newsletter:

[DemExpat]

29. This is a titanic struggle for me the last part of 2008 and ongoing now.

Finally my partner of 28 years and I are splitting up, we live in separate homes at this moment - but not a permanent solution, I'm afraid - so I am doing heavy examination of how to complete this cleansing work of a very difficult relationship.

I still vacillate between going aggressively for the complete break, and between stumbling across books and articles on, for example, the "Alchemy of Relatiohsips" and how they are there in their form *as is* to teach us vital things about ourselves that we have hidden or denied and to allow a transformation to more Love in our lives and relationships.

At this point it is very unclear to me if splitting up finally is facing the Truth, of hiding from it. So easy to see it from both possible perspectives. I have almost decided that each possible situation is filled with both - the urge for growth and love, and conflicts of shadow sides.

Yes, my shadow side still exists within me, and my partner and I are perfect antagonists for this. But we just have never been able to DO anything with these conflicts and insights into them.....and I tend to blame him more for being unwilling to dig deeper on this stuff.

Yet my "primal" urge at this time is to be more alone with myself. I really enjoy living on my own at this time after all the busy and caring years of raising my family! I don't really feel lonely with myself, just wondering if I'm not heading towaqrds a lonely older age if I continue on this path. I find myself also confonting old friends too on how I perceive their behavior patterns towards me.......so far I have not lost a friend to this very powerful urge to 'speak my mind'....

Plus financially it is a puzzle working out how to finance 2 instead of 1 shared household.

Anyway, I'm rambling, but your post really Hit the Spot, and I thank you much for putting it out here. At least I can use this time on my own to even more deeply examine myself and my intentions. Hope I can get them to a point of clarity that helps me to move forward.
Pluto is really bringing it all to a boiling head in my and my husband's life at this time!


DemEx

edit: oh yes, I am also losing weight now that I carried for many years, just by being more conscious of what I eat and limiting carbs in the forms of sugars and grains, so I am well on my way to letting stuff go, I believe!

[ricochetastroman]

30. I need your chart to be more specific, I thought I had it, but I don't.

28 years is one cycle of Saturn. One of natural closure. It doesn't MEAN that you have to end it. Here is what Pluto "requires".
That the relationship gets REAL, DEVOTED, and DEEP. Other than that, it usually means it needs to end. Give it some thought and PM me if you wish. Good luck.

[DemExpat]

34. Yes, that is the reason I want it over.

The relationship has not deepened, gotten real or more devoted, and I have zero faith that it can - although the "might have been" is still quite painful to me.

My pain with that is still holding me back, I'm afraid...

Maybe these weeks I can let THAT go as well.

DemEx

[LaurenG]

36. Thanks for the heads up

It seems the work of Pluto has begun. How exciting in a peculiar sort of way. I feel as if I'm watching a great overhaul work through the lives of so many people. "How far the mighty have fallen" seems to be what I'm seeing. I just try to get out of the way when they go down. Not that I haven't had my share of "fun" falling as well. I just don't seem to care as much as I used to when I fall, I just get up and move on. :crazy:

:hi:

[Digit]

38. Moon in Capricorn

This is a great thread! I am enjoying reading how everyone is making changes!

I am turning my life upside down and changing careers at 57 to go into healthcare.
My old career was not nourishing my spirit and the shakiness of the economy has made it imperative that I find a career with more stability.

I just checked my natal chart and I have the Moon in Capricorn in the 6th House 27 Degrees. Pluto was originally in Leo or my 1st House when I was born. I am Leo Sun and Leo Ascendant.

This urge is hard to ignore but I have to say I am both nervous and excited at the same time. Nervous… wondering if I can actually perform the work and have the stomach for it and excited at the prospect of doing something that matters.

Does this seem about right?