Anything in the stars about earth changes?

[smirkymonkey]

Seems to be an awful lot of activity lately around the globe - does it have anything to do with the planets?

[Dover]

1. Might want to read a couple of things........

Try reading Nolle's June report. He talks a lot about weather and geological events:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=245&topic_id=7806&mesg_id=7987

Also might check out my thread further down about whether or not the polar shift is already starting. It suggests that the plate shifts are part of the process. It makes a lot of sense.

[Dover]

3. Nolle thinks the time around the 22nd looks the most volatile.

A brief return to more or less normal weather and seismic patterns should set in after the 9th, but the pace picks up again starting on the 14th, in advance of the Moon's southward crossing of the celestial equator on the 15th. This eases up early on the 17th, but until then, a flurry of strong storms with high winds and heavy precipitation will be newsworthy; along with a surge in moderate to severe seismic activity (including Richter 5+ quakes and volcanic eruptions).

The full moon at 0° 51' Capricorn on the 22nd anchors what appears to be the most significant signal of geophysical disturbances all month. In effect from the 19th through the 25th, this geocosmic stress window includes not only the full moon itself, but also the lunar south declination extreme (also on the 22nd) and the lunar perigee (closest approach to Earth) on the 23rd. In addition, it falls within days of the Uranus station, and well within the effective period of both the Mars-Jupiter opposition and the rolling Mercury-Venus-Saturn conjunction. This is a confluence of celestial configurations that suggests the greatest risk all month for strong storms, heavy rain and snow, high winds, floods and mudslides and high tides - and of course, earthquakes (Richter 5 and up) and volcanic eruptions. Not a good time to schedule outdoor events, unless you've got backup arrangements handy. If traveling, plan for weather delays.


And on the more extreme end....there's this:

http://matrixinstitute.com/namer1.html
Canada

Hudson Bay and the Foxe Basin will expand to form a large inland sea. Parts of the Northwest Territory will be pushed in as much as two hundred miles. Areas in Quebec, Ontario, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and portions of Alberta will become the survival center of Canada during the early changes. Migrations will arrive from British Columbia and Alaska.

United States

Major global Earth changes will begin in the United States as the North American Plate buckles, creating the Isles of California — 150 islands in all. Eventually, through tectonic plate buckling and fractures followed by inundations, the West Coast will recede eastward to Nebraska, Wyoming and Colorado.

The Great Lakes and the St. Lawrence Seaway will join and flow through the Mississippi River to the Gulf of Mexico.

Coastal areas from Maine to Florida will be inundated and pushed in for many miles.

Mexico

Coastal areas of Mexico will be inundated far inland. The California Baja will become a series of islands. Most of the Yucatan Peninsula will be lost to the sea. Volcanic and seismic activity will continue into the twenty-first century.

Central America and the Caribbean

Central America will be inundated and reduced to a series of islands. Elevations above 500 meters will be considered safe. A new waterway will form from the Bay of Honduras to Salinas, Ecuador. The Panama Canal will become impassable.


WORLD MAP HERE: http://matrixinstitute.com/futuremap.html

[smirkymonkey]

5. That's pretty frightening - it also looks like Cayce's map too.

Is there a time frame? I checked out the website, but couldn't get a close up pic or time frame. Thanks!

[Dover]

8. I am not familiar with the details or timeline. Looks like you have to

become a paying member to get that info, or purchase the larger map.

[Matariki]

47. I'd like to ask a question and hopefully not start a lot of negative posts

Reading this thread, I ask myself a question that occurs to me a lot - why are people *so* enamored with doom prophesies?

Fundamental Christians certainly are but I notice that many, many 'new age' folk are as well. I don't get it.

Another question. I know very little about Edgar Casey. How accurate was his predictions? Obviously the one about all these disasters happening by 2001 wasn't true, but what about other predictions?

respectfully (and i mean that)
~kineta

[Dover]

49. I'm not sure how you are defining "doom" exactly.

Are scientists who are studying earth changes also doomsayers?

I can speak for myself, that I don't approach this material looking for "doom", but instead am looking for explanations/validations for what I'm sensing is going on with earth changes. Those sources can range from myth, to ancient texts to modern scientific studies.

Granted, it DOES fascinate me, but not in a morbid sense. I don't fear death, nor do I seek it out. I see all of these things as natural cyclic changes which are very likely being driven in some circumstances by human behavior.

Does that answer your question?

I don't know how many of Cayce's predictions came true. Many of his readings were related to a person's health and I think those were very accurate. His earth changes are not as successful...but perhaps it is only a timing issue. We'll just have to wait on those I guess. But science is beginning to support the potential for the kinds of changes he foresaw (read my post below.."In praise of crazy men'). And it's quite common for psychics to get the timing of events wrong...because that dimension they access is timeless.

[Matariki]

51. end of the world stuff

and catastrophic events. the west coast falling into the ocean. immanent terrorist attack. and so forth. i have always been curious by how many supposed non-christians have a deep seated belief in the apocalypse. people throughout the ages have predicted 'end times'. i have always wondered if there is something in our psyche that secretly delights in the idea. perhaps we don't like the idea of the world going on without us?

not denying there are earth changes.

[Dover]

52. .....or is it due to "collective memory" of such events?

We have all been here before.

Who knows. I agree these kinds of things seem to pick up speed when there are big changes afoot or a millennium change. And I do see an overlap or commonality between fundamentalist "end times" and those of new agers.

Are these current times different? I don't know. But I feel pretty certain that an apparent (if not real) acceleration of earth changes is feeding the fears and sending people to reassess their faith and historic records in order to perhaps establish a point of reference.

It is pretty fascinating.

BTW - please read my above post again...I've added a few things.

[Matariki]

53. on the timing issue

i don't know what to think about that. it sounds like a bit of a cop out. not on your part, but in general. like people who predict the rapture for a certain date and it doesn't happen, then they move the date back and *that* doesn't happen and eventually everyone forgets about it. until some new doom prophet comes along and gets people's attention. Or someone predicts and earthquake in california. That *will* eventually happen so the 'psychic' can always claim accuracy, with the caveat that they are making their predictions from a 'timeless' place.

my real question though, is why people get pulled into this type of negative prediction time and time again. Psychics who predict relatively fortunate things for humanity don't get paid attention to.

[Dover]

54. Not sure I can answer that last question....

I mean...why do people go to an 'amusement' park to be frightened by the ride? Or a scary movie? Are we testing ourselves, taunting death? Is that ultimately empowering?


On the otherhand, people LOVE to be told they will have great health, wealth and good fortune by psychics...so it's not only the doom that draws people to wonder about the future.

I personally feel very optimistic about mankind, though I recognize the importance and inevitability of trials by fire...and such trials, whether real or imagined, often accelerate internal and external changes.

[Matariki]

55. On the otherhand, people LOVE to be told they will have great health

yeah i was going to point that out in my previous post. If you want to fake it as a psychic you predict love, money, and so forth for your clients. If you want to be a FAMOUS psychic - you predict catastrophe for humanity.

I find that little difference very interesting.

[Dover]

56. Well, my own 'relationship' to the psychic realm is not so cynical

Your explanation creates a kind of 'damned if they do, damned if they don't' lack of option for psychics. There seems to be a statement lurking beneath your questions. You do practice certain occult rituals, though...is that correct? (thinking back to a post on the thread about the alchemy engraving). Does your intuition come into play during these ceremonies?

I guess due to my own endeavors to develop my 'intuitive' abilities, I've met a number of intuitives...some more well known than others. So I have a working relationship with both them and my own process.

Is this an area that repels you or how do you feel about psychism?

[Matariki]

57. You're misunderstanding me

probably my fault. My statement wasn't about psychics but about how people react to different kinds of predictions. I was trying to say it in a clever way. Sorry. That usually leads to misunderstanding on the interweb and i should have known better. As far as my own relationship to psychicism - I read tarot professionally and in good faith and I am a practicing 'occultist' for a long, long time now.

What I was trying to say is that, in general, people like to hear 'good' predictions for themselves but at the same time seem to have a morbid fascination with catastrophic predictions for humanity. Look at this thread for instance - there is a map with half the west coast gone. There are people clinging to Edgar Cayce's gloomier predictions even though his time frame has come and gone. Now that is my statement - I thought I was saying it clearly enough for it not to be lurking beneath my question.

My question is 'why'. Why does this fascinate? I don't know the answer to that.

Now personally, I subscribe to the 'reality tunnel' idea of reality. We continually choose our realities. Perhaps that's just solipsism on my part but just in case it's 'true' I choose the reality where the West Coast (and all other major land masses) stay in tact, people come to their senses about the environment, humanity solves it's major problems like poverty and so forth. If anyone cares to join me....

[Quakerfriend]

2. CA is really starting to rattle!

4th Significant Earthquake Shakes Calif

A 6.6-magnitude temblor hit about 125 miles off the coast of Eureka around 11:30 6/16.

Prayers for all of the people of this lovely state!O8)

Years ago, Edgar Cayce predicted that LA would "flip like a pancake in a pan" around the time that "young men wore earings" and "women were in short, short skirts".

[smirkymonkey]

4. I am starting to believe more and more in prophecy these days

as I see what's going on in the world. I think Cayce said that LA or the west coast would go first, followed by the destruction of major east coast cities due to flooding. (feel free to correct me if I am wrong) :)

[Quakerfriend]

6. yes, i believe that's correct.

He also said that Virginia Beach and nearly all of Florida and parts of Indiana would be the safest places to live.

He predicted that Virginia Beach area would be the great seaport of the new world, following massive earth changes.

[hippiechick]

7. Indiana's on a fault line !

We get our fair share of low-grade rumbles every now and again, and if something really horrendous happened, good ole' Lake Michigan might let loose and sink some of the northern part of the state.


:hi:

[Quakerfriend]

11. Looks like you might be safe from the quakes, hippiechick!

"Then the area where the entity is now located will be among the safety lands, as will be portions of what is now Ohio, Indiana and Illinois...":hug: per Dover's info below.

But, yikes...the lakes are going to overflow!

[DemExpat]

9. Does he have any predicitons for Europe?

:-)

DemEx

[Dover]

10. Here are some of Cayce's earth changes predictions for comparison

Other predictions were about dramatic changes in the Earth's surface in the period of 1958 to 1998. The cause of these he put down to a tilting in the Earth's rotational axis which he said would begin in 1936.

The first sign of this change in the Earth's core would be the "breaking up of some conditions" in the South Pacific and "sinking or rising" in the Mediterranean or Etna area. Cayce forecast that, by the end of the century, New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco would be destroyed. He said that "the greater portion of Japan must go into the sea" at this time, and that northern Europe would be "changed as in the twinkling of an eye." In 1941, Cayce predicted that lands would appear in the Atlantic and the Pacific in the coming years, and that "the coastline now of many a land will be the bed of the ocean. Even many of the battlefields of (1941) will be ocean, will be the sea, the bays, the lands over which the new order will carry on their trade as with one another."

"Watch New York, Connecticut and the like. Many portions of the east coast will be disturbed, as well as many portions of the west coast, as well as the central portion of the United States. Los Angeles, San Francisco, most of all these will be among those that will be destroyed before New York, or New York City itself, will in the main disappear. This will be another generation though, here; while the southern portions of Carolina, Georgia, these will disappear. This will be much sooner. The waters of the Great Lakes will empty into the Gulf of Mexico."

Cayce prophesied that the Earth's axis would be shifted by the year 2001, bringing on reversals in climate, "so that where there has been a frigid or semi-tropical climate, there will be a more tropical one, and moss and fern will grow." By this time, he indicated, a new cycle would begin.

...cont'd

http://www.crystalinks.com/edgar_cayce.html

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Question:"How soon will the changes in the earth's activity begin to be apparent?"
EC: "When there is the first breaking up of some conditions in the South Sea (that's South Pacific, to be sure), and those as apparent in the sinking or rising of that that's almost opposite same, or in the Mediterranean, and the Etna area, then we may know it has begun."

Question: "How long before this will begin?"
EC: " The indications are that some of these have already begun, yet others would say thse are only temporary. We would say they have begun..."

Question: "Will there be any physical changes in the earth's surface in North America? if so, what sections will be affected, and how?"
EC: "All over the country we will find many physical changes of a minor or greater degree. The greater change, as we find, in America, will be the North Atlantic Seaboard. Watch New York! Connecticut, and the like."

Question: "When will this be?"
EC: "In this period. As to just when..."


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From Reading #3976-15 (Given on January 19, 1934)

"As to the changes physical again: The earth will be broken up in the western portion of America. The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. The upper portion of Europe will be changed as in the twinkling of an eye. Land will appear off the east coast of America. There will be the upheavals in the Arctic and in the Antarctic that will make for the eruption of volcanos in the Torrid areas, and there will be shifting then of the poles - so that where there has been those of a frigid or the semi-tropical will become the more tropical, and moss and fern will grow. And these will begin in those periods in '58 to '98, when these will be proclaimed as the periods when His light will be seen again in the clouds. As to times, as to seasons, as to places, ALONE is it given to those who have named the name - and who bear the mark of those of His calling and His election in their bodies. To them it shall be given."

Question: "What are the world changes to come this year (1934) physically?"
EC: "The earth will be broken up in many places. The early portion will see a change in the physical aspect of the west coast of America. There will be open waters appear in the northern portions of Greenland. There will be new lands seen off the Caribbean Sea, and DRY land will appear. There will be the falling away in India of much of the material suffering that has been brought on a troubled people. There will be the reduction of one risen to power in central Europe to naught. The young king son will soon reign. In America in the political forces we see a re-stabilization of the powers of the peoples in their own hands, a breaking up of the rings, the cliques in many places. South America shall be shaken from the uppermost portion to the end, and in the Antarctic off of Tierra Del Fuego LAND, and a strait with rushing waters."

Question: "To what country is the reference made regarding the young king?"
EC: "In Germany."


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From reading 270-35 (given on January 21, 1936):

"If there are the greater activities in the Vesuvius, or Pelee, then the southern coast of California--and the areas between Salt Lake and the southern portions of Nevada--may expect, within the three months following same, an inundation by the earthquakes.

"But these, as we find, are to be more in the southern than in the northern hemisphere."


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From Reading #1152-11 (Given on August 13, 1941)

"As to conditions in the geography of the world, of the country, - changes here are gradually coming about."

"No wonder, then, that the entity feels the need, the necessity for change of central location. For, many portions of the east coast will be disturbed, as well as many portions of the west coast, as well as the central portion of the U.S."

"In the next few years lands will appear in the Atlantic as well as in the Pacific. And what is the coast line now of many a land will be the bed of the ocean. Even many of the battle fields of the present will be ocean, will be the seas, the bays, the lands over which the NEW order will carry on their trade as one with another."

"Portions of the now east coast of New York, or New York City itself, will in the main disappear. This will be another generation, though, here; while the southern portions of Carolina, Georgia - these will disappear. This will be much sooner."

"The waters of the lakes will empty into the Gulf, rather than the waterway over which such discussions have been recently made. It would be well if the waterway were prepared, but not for that purpose for which it is at present being considered."

"Then the area where the entity is now located will be among the safety lands, as will be portions of what is now Ohio, Indiana and Illinois, and much of the southern portion of Canada and the eastern portion of Canada; while the western land - much of that is to be disturbed - in this land - as, of course, much in other lands."

Question: "I have for many months felt that I should move away from New York City."
EC: "This is well, as indicated. There is too much unrest; there will continue to be the character of vibrations that to the body will be disturbing, and eventually those destructive forces there - though these will be in the next generation."

Question: "Will Los Angeles be safe?"
EC: "Los Angeles, San Francisco, most all of these will be among those that will be destroyed before New York even."

Question: "Should California or Virginia Beach be considered at all, or where is the right place that God has already provided for me to live?"
EC: "As indicated, these choices should be made rather in self. Virginia Beach or the area is much safer as a definite place."

Question: "Is Virginia Beach to be safe?"
EC: "It is the center - and the only seaport and center - of the White Brotherhood

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/5692/earth.htm


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Here is a list of some of the earth changes predicted by Edgar Cayce.

The Atlantic coast of America would be altered, especially around New York and Connecticut. New York City would disappear.

Russia (At the time of the prophecy was atheistic and communistic) would become the spiritual hope of the world. They would live their lives with concern for others, not by decree as dictated by communism and religion, but rather, through spiritual maturity.

The great earth changes he predicted would occur over the span of one generation. Some people put this as 40 years and have set a period beginning in 1958 and ending in 1998. (We can see from this why prophets shouldn't set specific dates) The changes would begin slowly at the beginning of this period. An increase in intensity, frequency and unpredictability in earthquakes and weather anomalies such as violent storms and droughts. Later in the period, these changes would drastically increase in frequency, intensity and violence.

Note: Since 1960 there have been an ever increasing number of violent hurricanes, earthquakes, and volcanic activity worldwide. We have experienced storms that are supposed to occur every 500 years, returning to visit us within 10 years or less.

One of the signs of the entry into this period, is the movement in land masses in the Pacific Ocean area, simultaneously with similar activity in the Mediterranean Sea and Mt. Etna in Sicily. This will mark the beginning of the earth changes on a grand scale.

California and the Baja Peninsula will disappear during a series of intense earthquakes. San Francisco, Los Angeles and Santa Barbara will be only a few of notable cities that will not exist afterwards. The Pacific Ocean will cover the western part of the US up to Arizona and Nebraska. Both will have ocean harbors towns.

Note: Archaeologists have just discovered the lost part of the ancient city of Alexandria, Egypt which has been submerged in the Mediterranean Sea since an earthquake sent it there almost two thousand years ago. There is great excitement because they hope to find the tomb of Cleopatra in the remains of this once great historical city.

The southern parts and coastal regions of the Carolinas and Georgia will be submerged under the ocean. Note: The coastal areas of these states as well as most of Florida, Alabama & Louisiana are only a few feet above sea level. It won't take much for this to happen.

The Great Lakes will drain into the Gulf of Mexico through the Mississippi River. The Niagara River may well run dry and if it does, then there goes the Honeymoon Capitol of Niagara Falls.

The greater part of Japan will go into the sea.

Northern Europe will also change especially those parts near the Arctic circle.

Toward the end of the period for these upheavals to take place, the earth will shift its poles causing the Polar caps of the Arctic and Antarctica to begin melting. When this occurs there will be major rising of the ocean levels that some estimate to be several hundred feet. A large part of coastal land masses world wide will be flooded and there will be an exodus of people to higher ground. The melting won't occur overnight, however, your beachside condo will become worthless overnight. Some of those areas that enjoy the bliss of tropical weather will find themselves living in the new Arctic polar regions, and those living in colder regions will need to buy beach chairs and sun tan oil.

Edgar Cayce also predicts that there will be new lands rising from the depths of the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. In the Caribbean and off the coast of Bimini in the Bahamas Islands.

There are also some safe places in the US. They are; Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, the central and eastern states to name a few. The Virginia Beach area as well as, southern and eastern Canada will be safe havens also.
http://www.newagedirectory.com/pro/edgar_cayce.htm

[smirkymonkey]

12. Thanks! Very interesting.

It seems like most of the places that will be disappering are liberal enclaves - was Cayce political at all? It's probably just a coincidence, but I am amazed that places along the New Madrid fault in the midwest were not mentioned. They are certainly due and it's a big one.

[vanboggie]

16. Perhaps we liberals

are the ones taken in the Rapture. Wouldn't that enrage the Fundies :evilgrin:

[Matariki]

48. what does this mean?

Question: "Is Virginia Beach to be safe?"
EC: "It is the center - and the only seaport and center - of the White Brotherhood

is he talking about white supremacists and the kkk? is that one of his predictions?

[Dover]

50. KKK? Lol! No. Here is Cayce's explanation of the White Brotherhood >

R E A D I N G

Time of Reading
3:00 P. M.

1. GC: You will please give at this time detailed information regarding the origin, purpose and prophecies of the Great Pyramid of Gizeh near Cairo, Egypt. Please answer the questions asked.

2. EC: Yes. In the information as respecting the pyramids, their purpose in the experience of the peoples, in the period when there was the rebuilding of the priest during the return in the land, some 10,500 before the coming of the Christ into the land, there was first that attempt to restore and to add to that which had been begun on what is called the Sphinx, and the treasure or storehouse facing same, between this and the Nile, in which those records were kept by Arart and Araaraart in the period.

3. Then, with Hermes and Ra (those that assumed or took up the work of Araaraart) there began the building of that now called Gizeh, with which those prophecies that had been in the Temple of Records and the Temple Beautiful were builded, in the building of this that was to be the hall of the initiates of that sometimes referred to as the White Brotherhood.

4. This, then, receives all the records from the beginnings of that given by the priest, Arart, Araaraart and Ra, to that period when there is to be the change in the earth's position and the return of the Great Initiate to that and other lands for the folding up of those prophecies that are depicted there. All changes that came in the religious thought in the world are shown there, in the variations in which the passage through same is reached, from the base to the top - or to the open tomb AND the top. These are signified by both the layer and the color in what direction the turn is made.

5. This, then, is the purpose for the record and the meaning to be interpreted by those that have come and do come as the teachers of the various periods, in the experience of this present position, of the activity of the spheres, of the earth.

6. In the period that is to come, this ends - as to that point which is between what is termed in chronological time in present - between 1950 and '58, but there have been portions that have been removed by those that desecrated many of those other records in the same land. This was rejected by that Pharaoh who hindered in the peoples leaving the land. ..cont'd

http://members.tripod.com/~arescott/EConWB.html


Mt. Carmel Readings:

http://www.essene.com/Bible/CayceReadingsOnMtCarmel.html

Lots more to be found with a google search on this topic.

[Quakerfriend]

13. Another one this morning in northern CA- 5.0

http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin /

possibly an aftershock.

[Pallas180]

14. Like all prophets/psychics time is not a strongsuit because

"all time is at the same time" - so it is extremely difficult for any
psychic to make accurate predictions telling time. Nevertheless Cayce's predictions were for the earth changes to be completed I think in 1998 - being 7 years off for such a long term prediction from the 1930's-40's is not bad at all.

When he predicts things like "land masses" will disappear in the twinkling of an eye - which seemed off the wall before, when we have seen what the Xmas Tsunami did in the South Pacific...where major portions of the islands disappeared underwater in a day - it is no longer off the wall.

One thing I question now is that Cayce has called Virginia Beach the center of "The White Brotherhood".

Of course that horse's ass Fallwell and Robertson have made Virginia Beach their headquarters...I would imagine after having read Cayce,
but THEY are certainly not "White Brotherhood". Certainly they have positioned themselves to be in a position and area of power after earth changes.

Too bad we didn't know about them while Cayce was alive, so we could ask what would be done about them.

[Dover]

15. I think Virginia also is home to one of the underground shadow gov.

sites (where there is purportedly a parallel gov. structure set up originally as a precaution against nuclear attack.
I know Virginians are aware of the site but of course no one has been able to get close. And Virginia is also home to a major naval port, etc. That state is sort of a bedroom community for D.C.

[Dover]

17. Sunken cities >

Well, there's plenty of evidence that it's happened all over the globe in the past, so 'sunken cities' can and have become a reality, and can occur very quickly...disappearing under water, shifting sands and volcanic ash. The tsunami reminded our modern minds of just how quickly and how enormously devastating it can be.

Here are just a few sites:

Japan:
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/phikent/japan/japan.html
http://www.grahamhancock.com/gallery/underwater/yonaguni.htm
Is this Cayce's "Mu"?: http://edgarcayce.org/am/underwatercities.html


Off Cuba's coast, a new discovery: http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/cuba_annex.html
http://andrewcollins.com/page/articles/lostcity.htm

Egypt: http://www.egyptvoyager.com/articles_ancientcitiesfounsdund.htm

India:
http://www.spiritofmaat.com/announce/oldcity.htm

http://india.krishna.org/Articles/2002/10/006.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1923794.stm

The U.S. ???

[Dover]

18. One more sunken city site that archives several archeol. sites >

http://www.morien-institute.org/uwnewsarchive.html

[DemExpat]

19. Thanks, Dover, I don't know much about Atlantis or Lemuria....

and love looking at maps and speculations.

:thumbsup:

DemEx

[Dover]

20. Hi DemExpat! Good to have some company at this hour

It's nearly 4 A.M. here.....my sleep patterns are really off!
What time is it there?

I haven't studied Cayce in great detail but I own a very old book on Atlantis by Ignatius Donnelly, which captured my imagination. And U.S. archeological sites like Poverty Point in northeastern Louisianna seem to be a very plausible place for one of the purported survival groups escaping a sinking Atlantis to have settled. In fact many archeological anomolies seem to be at odds with "history" as we've known it.

And what I find really interesting is that the U.S. media has barely mentioned these MAJOR finds. I think they throw our 'history' into a tailspin. Comments by supposedly learned archeaologists that sites like the one in Japan might be made by nature rather than man is insulting even to the novice!

And these cultures were not big-browed cavemen, but highly sophisticated. And HOW could much of the workmanship have been accomplished on that scale with that precision without highly developed tools?
It seems to be a well-guarded secret, as we are only just now beginning to scratch our heads about this apparent disconnect.
We've barely begun to scratch the surface.

[Pallas180]

21. Dover, funny, I'm also not able to sleep until 4 AM in the last month

or maybe it's more.

I'm glad you mentioned you're having the same problem. I'm trying to go to sleep by 1 AM and it's not happening. Even with a sleeping aid, its 4 AM!

I wonder if the shift on the North Pole is affecting us?
like it did the whales and porposes...Circadian cycles?

[Pallas180]

22. Egypt, the seat of the mea[hysical knowledge we have, is supposed

to have been the recipient of the survivors of Lemuria and Atlantis..
those who escaped as their countries sank or blew up....It was Lemuria that sank...and then you wonder how that ties in with the bible stories of Noah gathering the animals on the boat...Noah, a Lemurian?

Atlantis was suposed to be very advanced technologically, flying machines, and so on..so advanced that they blew their country up......Another interesting book is Kurt Vonnegut's on these mysteries...relating archaeologists having found things like (car?)batteries that are more than 10,000 years old....
Indian totem poles showing carvings that appear to be astronauts showing a bubble around the subjects head..what we would call the air supply helmet...

There's just too much "smoke" for their not to be the original fire having existed.

Was it Cayce who predicted land mass of Atlantis would arise and be found off Florida/Bahamas in the 1980's or 90's? I think so.
A tiny land mass was found...with columns underwater and large cement type roads..

Isn't it funny that not much publicity is given to these finds?

[Trillo]

23. I find a map like this implausible,

because of displacement. If large land masses are going to arise out of the sea, such as Mu and Atlantis in the above map, I think it likely that other currently risen continents would sink.

It would be nice to have a geologists perspective on this, but since when do professionals ever publicly say something "devastating" is "possible"? Usually it's something like, "if it ever happens, it will happen very slowly." That's probably the theory they've been taught.

[Dover]

24. I'm don't think that Cayce thought Mu or Atlantis would arise in their

old form....of the same size. From what I gather, there will be smaller areas that poke up. It seems entirely possible, depending only on how abrupt and severe the shift is.

[Trillo]

42. I get the feeling nobody knows for sure;

certainly the professional scientists, if they know, aren't saying in any consistent mass-media way, which may be more of a corporatist media phenomenon than lack of knowledge or representative of the professionals failure to disseminate said knowledge.

I know it's an unpopular topic on DU, but even the New Testament mentions something to the effect that "there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down."

If there is to be a sudden shift, what happens to the inertial direction of the oceans? Do continents get baptized?

[DemExpat]

25. Check out this article from LBN....earth cracks in Texas.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1573813

DemEx

[smirkymonkey]

26. Wow. And the New Madrid fault has been very active lately

as well - the last time there was a quake on the New Madrid the Missisippi ran backward and it was felt all the way in Boston! It seems like the US is having an unusual amount of activity lately.

[Dover]

28. Scientists are giving the New Madrid a 10% chance

Sounds like a guess to me......albeit an educated one.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8317517/

[Dover]

27. Yikes!....hadn't heard about that.....and I LIVE in Texas.

Claude is up in the panhandle area of northwest Texas, just southeast of Amarillo...and very close to Palo Duro Canyon, a large and deep crevice.

Thanks for the info.

[Dover]

29. Ancient Future

I've been reading a truly fascinating book which I think most who frequent this forum would find provocative and often profound...a real page turner...titled, Ancient Future - The Teachings and Prophetic Wisdom of the Seven Hermetic Laws of Ancient Egypt (by Wayne B. Chandler).

Here are a few excerpts that pertain to this thread, where he references historical sources describing previous earth changes and our present times :

In the Book of Asclepius (or Imhotep), Hermes related this foreboding tale to his apprentice Imhotep, whom hermes declared was like the Sun:

It befits the wise to know all things in advance, of this you must not remain ignorant: a time will come when...divinity will return from earth to heaven...O Egypt, Egypt, of your reverent deeds only stories will survive, and they will be incredible to your children! Only words cut in stone will survive to tell your faithful works, and the Scythian or some such neighbor barbarian will dwell in Egypt. for divinity goes back to heaven, and all people will die, deserted as Egypt will be widowed and deserted by god and human....Whoever survives will be recognized as Egyptian only by his language; in his actions he will seem a foreigner.
Imhotep, why do you weep? Egypt herself will be persuaded to deeds much wickeder than these, and she will be steeped in evils far worse. A land once holy, most loving of divinity, by reason of her reverence the only land on earth where the gods settled, she who taught holiness and fidelity will be an example of utter unbelief.

In their weariness the people of that time will find the world nothing to wonder at or to worship...People will find it oppressive and scorn it. They will not cherish this entire world, a work of god beyond compare...They will prefer shadows to light, and they will find death more expedient than life. No one will look up to heaven. The reverent will be thought mad, the irreverent wise; the lunatic will be thought brave, and the scoundrel will be taken as a decent person. Soul and all teachings about soul )that soul began as immortal and expects to attain immortality) as I revealed them to you will be considered not simply laughable but even illusory...They will establish new laws, new justice. Nothing holy, nothing reverent nor worthy of heaven or heavenly beings will be heard of or believed in the mind.

They will be driven to every outrageous crime - war, looting, trickery, and all that is contrary to the nature of souls...When all this comes to pass Asclepius (Imhotep), ten the master and father, the god whose power is primary...will take a stand against the vices and the perversion in everything, righting wrongs, washing away malice in a flood or consuming it in fire or ending it by spreading pestilential disease everywhere. Then he will restore the world to its beauty of old so that the world itself will again seem deserving of worship and wonder.

As our current cycle progresses, in keeping with the dictates of the Manvantara, there will be sudden diverse changes in our environment, as well as in the evolution of human consciousness. The Manvantara reflects that within the dominant cycles of the Earth are smaller ones, which are also indicative of transformation. Smaller cycles appear in Kali Yuga, which elevate humaninty to more ethical plateaus of sociocultural understanding and interaction. Such periods may endure for several millennia gradually deteriorating as the darkness of the Kali Yuga once more engulfs the human race. Though the general condition of the race worsens, what was achieved in these more enlightened cycles is retained by various groups, which towards the end of the Yuga, will survive and start anew as they enter a different age.

the Kali Yuga, which began in 3102 B.C.E., just completed its first minor cycles in 1898, almost on hundred years ago. The Manvantara informs us that we are now in a stage of transition to a new minor cycle, due at the beginning of the 21st Century. The manvantara decrees that it is within this period of transition that telluric changes, such as severe seismographic activity, may occur on a global scale, along with radical deviations in Earth's weather patterns. We may also experience an elevation of consciousness through spiritual awareness, bonding the human family together on levels yet unexplored.

_________________

In the British Museum, there is a document written by the Mayans of the Yucatan, known as the Troano Manuscript. Dated circa 650 C.E., this manuscript was discovered and translated by one of the first European archaeologists to decipher the Mayan glyphs, Augustus Le Plongeon. It too speaks of a disaster of global proportions:

In the year six Kan, on the eleventh Mulac in the month Zac, there occurred terrible earthquakes which continued without interruption for thirteen Chuen. The country of the "hills of mud" the land of Mu, was sacrificed. Being twice upheaved, it suddenly disappeared during one night, the basin being continually shaken by volcanic forces. Being confined, these caused the land to sink and to rise several times in various places. At last the surface gave way and ten countries were torn asunder and scattered. Unable to stand the force of the convulsions, they sank with their sixty-four million inhabitants.

There can be no doubt that this account is a recapitulation of an earlier incident passed on to them from earlier civilizations that flourished in the region long before the Maya.

In examining stories and legends of tremendous telluric disasters, one cannot help by wonder if there is scientific evidence that points to the possibility of such changes having taken place.

..snip..

All current geophysical theories regarding the phenomenon of polar reversal are based on the research of Dr. Charles Hutchins Hapgood....So profound were the scientific theories of pole reversal by Hapgood, that he eventually drew the attention of one Albert Einstein. Fascinated by Hapgood's calculations regarding the subject, Einstein was impelled to write the foreward to Hapgood's book, Earth's Shifting Crust. Hapgood's calculations led him to believe that the last polar shift was between 17,000 and 12,000 years ago and that the North Pole would have been in the Hudson Bay area of Canada. Scientists would like to think the process of polar shifting is a gradual one, but at this time, they may only speculate, and their speculative approach is filled with error. Let us not forget that several mammoths discovered frozen solid on the tundras of n.e. Siberia. These animals were so well preserved that the sled doggs consumed their flesh without incident. Inthe stomachs of these mammoths and between their teeth was undigested grass and leaves. When the vegetable matter in their stomachs was analyzed to determine the species of plant, it was discovered that the plants did not grow in the regions where the animals died, but far to the south, as much as a thousand miles away. This clearly shows that the shifting of Earth's poles was amazingly sudden and rapid, for if the animals had not been frozen as soon as they died, there would be evidence of decomposition.


During the last several years, there have been countless individuals in the scientific community who have tried to predict catastrophic/transformative events. One of the most famous of these predictions came in the mid 1970s from two scientists, John R. Gibbon and Stephen h. Plagemann, in a book entitled, The Jupiter Effect. The book was a countdown to a 1984 doomsday that was to be characterized by massive earthquakes, tidal waves, changes in Earth's atmosphere, and a gradual slowing of Earth's axial rotation, and was to be caused by the alignment of several planets perpendicular to the Sun. Needless to say, none of these events materialized and both scientists were labeled as frauds. However, that such a doomsday event is plausible is found in the commentary of both Herodotus and Plato. Herodotus, on of the more inquisitive Greeks, who ventured into Egypt in the 5th C. B.C.E., discovered through conversations with an Egyptian priest that "four times in this period (so they told me) the sun rose contrary to his wont; twice he rose where he now sets, and twice he set where he now rises." Plato, in his dialogue Politicus or The Statesman, wrote:


"I mean the change in the rising and the setting of the sun and the other heavenly bodies, how in those times they used to set in the quarter where they now rise, and used to rise where they now set...At present periods the universe has its present circular motion, and at other periods it revolves in the reverse direction...the motion of the earth is changed by 'blocking of the course' and goes through 'shaking of revolutions' with 'disruptures of every possible kind', so that the position of the earth became at one time reversed, at another oblique, and again upside down, and it wandered 'every way in all six directions. Of all the changes that take place in the heavens this reversal is the greatest and most complete."

___________________________________________________________

See: Polar Reversal Already In Effect >
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=245x7968

[DemExpat]

30. Thanks for this, Dover,

For some reason, this information helps me feel better about all of the disastrous changes that might be coming....as you guys may know :-) these topics cause me great concern and distress, but after reading these ancient prophecies, I kind of have a different insight to help change my attitude.

Especially this section:
In their weariness the people of that time will find the world nothing to wonder at or to worship...People will find it oppressive and scorn it. They will not cherish this entire world, a work of god beyond compare...They will prefer shadows to light, and they will find death more expedient than life. No one will look up to heaven. The reverent will be thought mad, the irreverent wise; the lunatic will be thought brave, and the scoundrel will be taken as a decent person. Soul and all teachings about soul )that soul began as immortal and expects to attain immortality) as I revealed them to you will be considered not simply laughable but even illusory...They will establish new laws, new justice. Nothing holy, nothing reverent nor worthy of heaven or heavenly beings will be heard of or believed in the mind.

This presents such a clear picture of out times that it might help me accept that an enormous Spring Cleaning of our earth by Mother Nature, with all of the possible horrors we might have to endure, let alone survive, might really be the only "solution" for all of the idiocy/cruelty/irrerverence/man-made distruction......

Anyway, thanks for sharing!

:hug:

DemEx

[Dover]

34. This is what comforted me........

Though the general condition of the race worsens, what was achieved in these more enlightened cycles is retained by various groups, which towards the end of the Yuga, will survive and start anew as they enter a different age.

[DemExpat]

36. Yes, this soothes me as well....

Also that there are initiatives like this one from Norway:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=115x26078
Norway To Establish Global Seed Bank On Remote Arctic Island Chain
"Norway will develop a safety net for key global food supplies by collecting agricultural seeds for a depot on its remote Svalbard Islands in the Arctic, the government announced Thursday.

:hi:

DemEx

[Dover]

41. Wow......very interesting.

Yes, I'm so glad there are those with some vision....gives new meaning to the term "seed men" (or women).

[Pallas180]

31. Dover - that is a VERY interesting read! deep and gives one a lot

to think about...I never thought of the fact that the polar flip would have the sun rising in the West and setting in the East...

and I can't even fathom the implications and consequences of that alone!

[smirkymonkey]

32. Wow - that is fascinating!

But scary - we are seeing this happening before our very eyes.

[Dover]

33. You are all welcome. There is SO much more rich information in this

book, and I enjoy sharing it as I go.

DemExpat, something I didn't post was a small section about how, unfortunately, Mankind needs to hit a wall before we are compelled to lift our consciousness and seek a higher spiritual plane. Though I too take comfort in the wisdom of a cleansing, it's still unsettling. But those who recognize the necessity of such cycles and long for this transformation (inner and outer) are preparing the way for themselves and others.

And, we really need to contemplate and understand this form of 'death'.


I may feel like typing some more paragraphs from the book later, probably in the Hermes thread I started. Giving my hands a rest for now. :P

[DemExpat]

37. Anywhere you can point me to material on this?

But those who recognize the necessity of such cycles and long for this transformation (inner and outer) are preparing the way for themselves and others.

And, we really need to contemplate and understand this form of 'death'.

DemEx

edit: I have so much reading for my studies that I don't get around to browsing bookstores like I used to for more esoteric stuff....:hi:

[Dover]

38. The subject of 'death'....what it is...it's place within cycles...ancient

and esoteric views...is broad and deep and contained in all spiritual teachings.

The Book of the Dead, The Book of Breathings are two sources that come immediately to mind if you want to start with the Egyptian "funerary" literature (as well as the Book of Passing Through Eternity and the Book of Transformtions), which among other things talk about what to expect 'on the other side'.

"The next world is represented after the pattern of this one," wrote de Horrack, "the life of the spirit is so to speak just another step in human existence, the activities of the elect being analogous to those of men on earth. It is not an existence dedicated to eternal contemplation, a passive state of bliss, but an active and work-filled life, yet one, to make use of M. Chabas's expression, endowed with infinitely vaster scope than this one."]

These were thought to be the teachings of Thoth (Hermes). Might read, The Way of Hermes: New Translations of The Corpus Hermeticum....

And of course the roots of Tarot and Astrology are about the cyclic death that is inevitable within each cycle (study of Pluto and Saturn in astrology, for instance, and the Death card in Tarot for their deeper meanings).
Alice Bailey might also be a good source.

Western culture lives in fear of death because it is so out of touch with natural cycles and its own divine nature.

[DemExpat]

39. You are a gem, Dover....

:hug:

DemEx

[Dover]

40. Aw shucks

:blush:

I was just about to add this very accessible 'sacred text' website that features online texts.
Here's their page on The Life and Teachings of Thoth Hermes Trismegistus, by Manly P. Hall from his book, The Secret Teachings of All Ages.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/sta08.htm

And another great book site:

http://www.sacredscience.com/store/commerce.cgi?page=MetaSciList.htm

:hug:

[Dover]

43. Oh darn.....it seems I never have enough time to edit...add more things

but meant to post the link for this page of that online sacred text site: Egyptian Texts

http://www.sacred-texts.com/egy/index.htm

[Dover]

35. Climate and the Collapse of Maya Civilization

Climate and the Collapse of Maya Civilization

A series of multi-year droughts helped to doom an ancient culture
Larry C. Peterson, Gerald H. Haug

With their magnificent architecture and sophisticated knowledge of astronomy and mathematics, the Maya boasted one of the great cultures of the ancient world. Although they had not discovered the wheel and were without metal tools, the Maya constructed massive pyramids, temples and monuments of hewn stone both in large cities and in smaller ceremonial centers throughout the lowlands of the Yucatán Peninsula, which covers parts of what are now southern Mexico and Guatemala and essentially all of Belize. From celestial observatories, such as the one at Chichén Itzá, they tracked the progress of Venus and developed a calendar based on a solar year of 365 days. They created their own system of mathematics, using a base number of 20 with a concept of zero. And they developed a hieroglyphic scheme for writing, one that used hundreds of elaborate signs.

During its Classic period (250–950 A.D.), Maya civilization reached a zenith. At its peak, around 750 A.D., the population may have topped 13 million. Then, between about 750 and 950 A.D., their society imploded. The Maya abandoned what had been densely populated urban centers, leaving their impressive stone edifices to fall into ruin. The demise of Maya civilization (which archaeologists call "the terminal Classic collapse") has been one of the great anthropological mysteries of modern times. What could have happened?

cont'd

http://www.americanscientist.org/template/AssetDetail/assetid/44510?fulltext=true#44683

[Dover]

44. more historical references to earth changes >

excerpt:

The 48000 BC Event
Other psychic sources link the 48000 BC event to the destruction of the ancient motherland of Mu at a time when a large comet was very visible in the sky. The 48000 BC tilt of the earth on its axis is supported by Charles Hapgood. Brown et al 20 note that "basaltic eruptions, both explosive and effusive, took place in the Auckland city region of New Zealand, beginning about 50, 000 BP", or 48,000 BC. Encyclopedia Britannica (1971) assigns an age of 50 000 years to the meteorite crater in Winslow, Arizona, though some other authorities opt for a slightly younger date. In all, there are about seven positively identified meteorite craters that are similarly geologically recent though historically ancient.

Robert Scrutton 30 quotes Martinus, a Jesuit missionary and historian as follows, in reference to Chinese records of an observed polar shift:

"At the beginning of the second heaven, the Earth was shaken to its foundations. The sky sank lower and lower towards the north. The sun, moon and stars changed their motion < note: They only appeared to do this to the observer because the Earth's axis was changing relative to its surface.> The earth fell to pieces and the waters in its bosom uprushed with violence and overflowed it. . . . the system of the universe was all disordered. The Planets altered their courses, and the great harmony of the universe and nature was disrupted . . . the sky sunk lower in the north. "

This last bit of information, related to China, would seem to correspond to Hapgood's change of the north pole from about 10 deg. east, 70 deg. north to about 80 deg. west, 50 deg. north. This event is dated at between 54,000 to 48,000 years ago, or at the reputed time of the destruction of Mu. This reference would consequently appear to be the Chinese version of the destruction of Mu, the first heaven, and their motherland.

A Lhasa record (ie Tibetan) 31 translated by Schielemann states " When the star of Bal fell on the places where now is only the sky and the sea, the seven cities with their golden gates and transparent temples, quivered and shook like the leaves in a storm; and behold, a flood of fire and smoke arose from the palaces. Agonies and cries of the multitude filled the air. . . But Ra Mu arose and said to them, 'Did I not predict all this?'"

Given that the disaster was foreseen, and that traditions claim that some people escaped disaster by fleeing to the colonies (just as some Atlanteans later fled to Egypt and the Americas, a couple of interesting dates crop up. Chatelain 24 is a consultant to NASA, but has an interest in our past. He cites legends telling us that the Egyptian calendar began in 49,214 BC (presumably citing Diogenes Laertius - 3rd century AD Greek historian). He also informs us that the Mayan calendar began in 49,611 BC. This is quite consistent with people getting out of the motherland with time to spare, just as others later fled Atlantis. ..cont'd

http://users.hunterlink.net.au/~drjh/chapter2.html

[Dover]

45. Let Us Now Praise "Crazy" Men

Let Us Now Praise Crazy Men

Recently some highly respected earth scientists went out on a limb. In the 25 July 1997 issue of Science, a team of prestigious researchers led by Joseph Kirschvink asserted that about 550 million years ago, the whole Earth skewed halfway around, putting its polar lands down at the equator, over a rather brief period—15 million years. (That doesn't sound brief, but for something this profound it's pretty darn fast.) The story got wide coverage in the major newspapers, but the most thorough treatment is the Caltech press release. For me, the whole thing is a bit of déjà vu, a reappearance of the alluring notion of "true polar wander."

In the decades before plate tectonics was accepted, the orientation of the ancient magnetic field was a severe puzzle. A grain of magnetite (or any other magnetic mineral) naturally tends to point toward the poles, like a miniature compass needle. Either it turns that way while it is in soft sediments before they become rock, or it forms in a body of lava and has the prevailing magnetic field stamped into it the minute it cools enough to hold a magnetic "charge."

But in rocks all over the world of all different ages, these micro-magnets point in many different directions. Either (1) the rocks got tipped or bent, or (2) the continents they sit in moved, changing their various orientations with respect to the poles ("polar wander" for short), or (3) the whole Earth shifted with respect to the poles ("true polar wander")—or, of course, some bewildering combination of all three. For some 50 years, specialists have been sorting out the first factor, then the second, to see if the third one enters the picture at all....cont'd

http://geology.about.com/library/weekly/aa072797.htm

Caltech Report: excerpt

...David Evans, a co-author on the paper and graduate student at Caltech, notes that it is very difficult to make large continents travel at speeds exceeding several feet per year; typical rates today are only a few inches per year.

"Earth has followed a 'plate-tectonic speed limit' for the past 200 million years or so, with nothing approaching the rates needed for this early Cambrian reorganization." Evans said. "Some other tectonic process must have been operating that would not require the continents to slide so rapidly over the upper part of Earth's mantle."

In fact, geophysicists have known for over half a century that the solid, elastic part of a planet can move rapidly with respect to its spin axis through a process known as "true polar wander." True polar wander, Kirschvink explains, is not the same as the more familiar plate motion that is responsible for earthquakes and volcanism. While the latter is driven by heat convection in Earth's mantle, true polar wander is caused by an imbalance in the mass distribution of the planet itself, which the laws of physics force to equalize in comparatively rapid time scales.

During this redistribution, the entire solid part of the planet moves together, avoiding the internal shearing effects which impose the speed limit on conventional plate motions. (While his happens, of course, the entire Earth maintains the original spin axis in relation to plane of the solar system.) Thus, true polar wander can result in land masses moving at rates hundreds of times faster than tectonic motion caused by convection.

http://geology.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://pr.caltech.edu/media/lead/072497JLK.html

* Mass Redistribution studies:

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/earthandsun/earthshape.html


* Hotbed of Volcanic Activity Found Beneath Arctic Ocean

June 25, 2003

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/06/0625_030625_gakkelridge.html


Is the Earth About to Flip?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2889127.stm

http://www.ufoindia.org/news_poles.htm

..Satellite data has now been used to compare the strength and direction of the magnetic field in 1980 and again in 2000, according to InScight.

Experts at the Physics of the Globe Institute of Paris and the Danish Space Research Institute in Copenhagen carried out the comparison and say the magnetic field off the southern tip of Africa has already flipped.

Gauthier Hulot, a member of the team, says molten iron there is now moving in a direction which will gradually weaken the dominant magnetic field and then reverse it.


theory

One assumption is that the magnetic poles are about to flip. But these changes in the magnetic field surrounding the Earth reflect changes in mass and the flow of electrified magma convection currents (plasma) that circulate between the Earth's core and the surface of the planet. Molten iron cannot be magnetized but it can be electrified. The magnetic field of the Earth is projected by the electrical energy contained within the molten interior of the planet and not by the molten iron itself. The changes in the magnetic field of the planet are symptomatic of changes in the flow patterns of these electrified plasma currents which project the magnetic field. As such, these are possibly the first indications of an impending geophysical pole shift and not simply a geomagnetic pole shift. These shifts in mass within the planet are altering the weight distribution within the spinning Earth. When these become great enough as to offset rotational balance, a geophysical pole shift will result.

[Dover]

46. Articles of Special Interest - Combines Science with Cayce Readings

Speculative Pole-Shift Model

Here follows a speculative picture of what might be taking place between now and the end of 2001, assuming that a TPW-type pole shift will indeed be taking place. It’s a picture based upon a combination of the Cayce readings and the scientific information given above. Since at least 1936, rising, pole-directed plumes of dense mantle material have begun to produce increasing mass anomalies in the Arctic and Antarctic regions near the Earth's axis of rotation. Plume heads impacting the base of the crust in the polar regions are beginning to cause earthquakes and upheavals there, making plume presence known. The majority of these rising masses of poleward-directed mantle material will soon cause the Earth to rotate slightly faster, just as figure skaters develop high-speed spins by bringing their arms inward and then up over their heads. An increase in Earth’s spin rate of only one second per day can increase the Earth’s equatorial bulge by about 20 inches. Our planet’s equatorial bulge is due to the centrifugal force of its spinning body, a force that is strongest at the equator. The force is so strong that the figure of the Earth is like a slightly squashed sphere, its diameter at the equator being roughly 27 miles longer than a diameter joining the poles. The liquid ocean responds instantly to changes in planetary centrifugal forces.

If Earth’s spin rate speeds up by a few seconds per day, hot magmatic liquids in the volcanoes of the equatorial zone will also respond, only slightly less quickly than ocean waters, to the increased centrifugal force there. This will cause volcanic eruptions in the “torrid areas” bordering the equator. Such a situation should be occurring about now. If so, it will last only a short time. This is so because the masses of mantle moving up in the polar regions will affect more than just Earth’s spin rate. Such redistributed masses will affect the ongoing wobble of the axis of rotation, and the ongoing TPW, which over the last century saw the north pole drifting south along the 79.2 W longitude. Upheavels of mantle material in the Arctic and Antarctic regions will change the character of the motion, and to increase speed. We will then be able to say that the pole shift is indeed underway. Geophysicists are leaning now toward the top-to-bottom mixing of the Earth's entire mantle. This means that the mantle plumes rising near to the surface in the polar regions will cause new concentrations of mass in the polar areas and movements of the lithospheric plates there. And compensatory mantle return flows will effect the lithosphere in other areas...

http://wrightworld.net/articlesofspecialinterest.htm#warmer%20water%20is%20also%20rising%20from%20the%20depths

[smirkymonkey]

58. Thanks for all the links Dover!

I have been on vacation, but now I have time to read this and it's fascinating.

I still think that there will continue to be repercussions from the earthquake/tsunami in Indonesia this past December, and that the planet has undergone a major shock.

I used to think that our civilization would be able to survive any geological event, but lately I am not so sure. The power of Mother Nature is more awesome that I ever thought possible.