The Psychic Consortium Thread VI

[Psychic Consortium]

Continuing from Thread V
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=245&topic_id=84157&mesg_id=84157

[Psychic Consortium]

1. The truth exposed, a delicate balance

It is seen that truths must be revealed for the maturation and healing of the American people.

However, from a practical standpoint, the American people are a demoralized and scared people
right now, and there must be a balance between necessary truth and too much truth all at once.
The timing and extent of the truth coming out is something that must be considered.

This is a difficult line to walk, Obama is very aware of it.
So is Spirit.

Also there is a karmic element to it, in that if Obama's opposition does the right thing, there will be less of a need for certain facts to come to light. The more they obstruct, the more the truths will be released, piece by piece.

Obama's biggest weapons: facts and truth.
He knows this.

[Psychic Consortium]

2. Threats, Gore 2000

In the previous thread, PC was asked if Gore had been threatened in the 2000 election. PC replied that threats had been made, including the threat of military action.

Another question was then asked about how a Bush military threat against Gore in the 2000 election could have happened given that Bush was not president.

PC admits that team members had the same initial reaction. Internally, PC eyebrows were raised at this piece of information as it did not seem to make sense, but the psychic message was clear about this issue.

A further look is taken and this is seen:

1. It is clear by now that the Republican strategy for obtaining what they want is a combination of threats/bribery. So the idea that Gore was threatened is not far fetched.

2. Whether Bush Co could/would have carried out the threat misses a major point. The point is that Gore was threatened and intimidated; an intense ugly psychological game was played against him. There was the use of an orchestrated psychological warfare to intimidate Gore.

3. The specific threat in question feels like the threat of the use of military/state militia/ national guard to protect a Bush swearing in, or use against a Gore swearing in.

4. Gore was put in a position of deciding whether he wanted to call Bush’s bluff on the threats. What would the costs be to himself, his family and to the American people? Gore was made to feel that there was a high probability of action being taken, and as stated previously there was some high level sabotage occurring in his own campaign and staff which added to the intimidation.

5. A second separate, but related issue is whether Bush Co could have actually carried out the threats. They would have simply used the same methods they used when in office later to obtain whatever they wished. Bribes, threats, manipulation of the courts, the legal system to circumvent the Constitution. Lawyers who were willing to write up any legal opinion necessary to carry out actions. Use of the media to spin the action favorably.

6. If someone had told us in 2000 that BushCo would torture, have secret prisons, hold people without trial, start an illegal war, empty the US treasury and give it to friends, use the US govt for personal ends, let an American city be wiped off the map and do nothing, etc etc, we would have said that it could not be done. But we have found that anything is possible with BushCo. And we have also seen that the destruction of a people means nothing to them. Nothing at all.

7. However it is felt that the threats were most likely part of an overall package of intimidation, rather than something they thought they would actually carry out. In the meantime Bush was lining up the SC to pave the way for him to obtain the presidency.

8. PC suggests a review of the speech Gore made at the recent Obama Dem National Convention. In that speech, Gore states something to the effect that we really have no idea what we are up against in trying to win the election. He did not sound hopeful. He knew first hand what these people are capable of.

[Tumbulu]

4. Thanks you for your posts, they lift me up, but I have a few comments.

Here are some of my ideas to share with you.

I knew at once clearly that all that was described above in #6 would happen when the supreme court overthrew the government in 2000. And I suspected and feared far worse. And I am not much of a psychic.

Another point is that the Psychic Consortium posted in a previous thread that farming would be nationalized due to high food costs.

I am a farmer. I have spent my life trying to become one and my on the job training is far from complete. My sages are Wendell Berry and Rudolf Steiner. I am not alone, there are so many of us small farmers trying our best to learn what the land we have been entrusted with needs and to help it produce.

Food is not something to be demanded. It is a gift to be nurtured and cherished. The fake food that fills the supermarkets is not nutritious for many reasons including the use of cheap toxic chemicals that trick the plants into producing higher yields, but at the expense of the soil and air and water.

Farming done in a loving way will not produce abundant food. It will produce healthy food consistently despite droughts and floods. The soil will remain capable of modest production in all situations. But the food will not be cheap as this sort of farming takes the complete devotion of the farmers and their workers. And the yields are modest. However the food is more nutritious and therefore I firmly believe that one needs to eat less of it to be healthy.

The USSR ruined their farming by collectivizing it and planting crops on schedules developed in Moscow. Our large farmlands are currently being destroyed by corporations polluting both the seeds and the soil with the unflinching demand for profit for stockholders as the only goal. And there are fewer and fewer actual farmers and they feel alienated and tired. The average age of the US farmer is something like 68.

Urban people need to not fall into the trap of thinking that farmers make the food expensive. And that somehow they are to blame. I know a woman who left her job at the USDA because one of the first things Bush did was tell the USDA that the US farmers should not be producing any more food. That should be left to the Chinese who could produce it cheaper and that the US farmers needed to produce genetically engineered plastics and other chemicals that could bring in a better profit per acre.

We need a real return of gentle good hearted people to the farms so that the food we produce reflects the advancements in our spirits and souls that we seek. But the work of a farmer is very hard and it should not be the lowest paid highest risk occupation either. Part of the new balance we seek should be there for the real farmers.

[Psychic Consortium]

5. Farms most likely NOT to be nationalized

The comment referred to was taken out of context, and perhaps confusing because the comment was made in response to a hypothetical situation about possible widespread famine in the US. It was an alternative probability viewed.

PC response was that widespread famine was unlikely. However if the famine probability bubble is viewed, it was seen that Obama would move heaven and earth to prevent the starvation of the American people. An extreme example was given that if it came to this, one option would be to take over any food source available to feed the American people.

If people were indeed starving in the streets, Obama would get food supplies moving to them in any way possible. It would be temporary, not permanent. It was only meant as an example of what Obama would do rather than let the people starve. He and Michelle would get out themselves and feed people in the street if need be.

This was said also to point out the contrast to the Republicans, who would sit on their hands and do nothing in the event of widespread American starvation. The crazy situation of store houses and farms with food while the American people starved.

PC does not see American farms being nationalized in the most likely probability at this time.

PC agrees with your other comments about farms and farmers.

[Tumbulu]

23. Thank you for explaining, I feel much better (nt)

[Cleita]

13. What if?

Instead of individual farmers struggling against the elements to make a living and the huge collective, chemical farming corporations cornering the market, what if the government, in partnership with the family farmer, worked to make it a more productive and less risky venture than each farmer trying to go it alone? I agree that the collective farms in the Soviet Union were a disaster. A lot of it though was because the government could not get the products to markets. I remember reading stories back then about crops rotting in the fields because there wasn't enough petrol and other fuel to get the railways and trucks operating frequently enough to take the stuff.

I imagine family farms, not too small and not too big, operating under the care of the government, like a benevolent uncle, who will step in when the farmer needs help and who will bring all the backing and knowledge of science to keep farmlands productive and ecological without too much interference. Also, if there are bad years because of drought, the government could be the difference between bankruptcy and being able to run the farm another year. Could that work for you guys? I really want to see Monsanto and other agricultural behemouths go the way of the Soviet Union.

[Tumbulu]

24. I love your vision and do believe that it was the original goal of the New Deal

But somehow that vision was replaced with a big is better maxim and the USDA did what it could to get rid of small farmers. They were quite successful, too.

So, I will hold you image in my heart and I thank you for sharing it with us.

[southerncrone]

56. Thanks, Tumbubu, for posting this info. It clears up a question I had.

When we were finding out about all the tainted food coming out of China, it puzzled me that we were getting food from them at all.
Were WE not the "breadbasket" of the world?
I could understand getting bananas, coffee, & other foods that we could not produce here from other countries....but not flour based goods.

So this information explains it very well.

Even in light of PC's answer to your post, obviously some companies were on board with his thinking scheming.

Seems to me that BushCo. should be held accountable for the costs of the illnessess & the deaths caused by this policy.

[crikkett]

104. My hero!

Thanks for your good work Tumbulu and I wish you success and happiness.
:loveya:

PS my dream home (still in my dreams) is a farmhouse on enough land to support a dozen people with produce and livestock and fish. I want to take in elderly people of modest means who don't have families to take care of them.

I know you're supporting more than a dozen people so I really admire what you're doing.

:cheers:

[MagickMuffin]

18. If the truth had been revealed back when Bill Clinton was President

perhaps GW wouldn't have been allowed anywhere near the White House.

BCCI and the Iran-Contra cover-up made it possible for the Bush Crime Family to continue in their warmongering ways. That's how they have managed to make their blood soaked wealth for generations, and continued to retain their power.

***John Kerry had investigated the Bush Crime Family and had a lot of details pertaining to BCCI and Iran Contra, however, his investigations came to a sudden halt when Bill Clinton took control of the Presidency. I guess that's what bothers me with phrases "We need to look forward, and not look back" looking back over wrongdoing helps to have a brighter future looking forward.

The Bush Crime Family have kept the military industrial complex afloat since Pres. Eisenhower warned us about it when he left office. Eisenhower knew the dangers of what was happening in backrooms of the pentagon that make certain people wealthy. We are kept in the dark about such dealings.

I knew/know what the Bush Crime Family are capable of perpetrating on people all over the world. They thrive on disasters and they help create and manifest them. And of course Dick Cheney and Ronald Rumsfeld have been there right alongside Poppy Bush for decades.

I also knew that the military was being used against Al Gore, when it was revealed that the military was releasing info for the Bush campaign and the rethuglicons were using the military for their party. The rethuglicons have always used the military against the Democrats but in 2000 it reached a whole new level.



It's hard for me to believe some people can be so filled with that much hate, but I realize there are people who only seem to thrive and wallow in it. It makes me want to :puke:

I also realize that they will pay a heavy karmic price for it.

I have a fantasy scenario in which Dick is riding the escalator up to Heaven, St.Peter sees him coming and stops the escalator where Dick can't reach Heaven the easy way, Dick becomes furious and starts threatening St.Peter that he better let him in or else.


Namaste, and Thank you for for input.


Edit: ***

[more_pain_please]

3. Question about the right time for things to unfold

There are many terrible things that Dick Cheney and others have been accused of and information has come to the surface a few times (ie cathy O'Brien etc), it has appeared to me that many people were not ready to confront the underlying issues that this information brings up. I was wondering when would be the right time and how best we should approach bringing it forth.

[Psychic Consortium]

6. The truth

Interesting, PC members were just discussing this morning the truth coming out about Cheney.
It is felt that there will be more information coming out about him.
But because of his poor health, he himself may not live to see all of the truth emerge.

The right time for the truth to start coming out is now. The best approach is to start putting forth the facts and evidence in an objective way so that the American people can decide for themselves.

[Missy Vixen]

10. PC, he is in much worse health than we have ever been told, isn't he?

Thank you so much for all your work. It is encouraging to read it, and I know it helps everyone here.

:hug:

[Psychic Consortium]

11. Yes he is.

And has been for some time.

The amount of money and high level technology keeping him alive is incredible.

[southerncrone]

57. And it's our hard-earned tax $'s keeping him alive.

What sad irony.

Takers keep taking. Givers keep giving.

Don't want to even THINK about his Karmic debt.

[Psychic Consortium]

9. First step is to demand the truth

PC feels that the first step is the demand for the truth, facts, information.

Once the truth is known, decisions can be made about consequences. Demands for prosecution
seem premature, the total truth must emerge first. The truth will reveal information
more damning than we now know.

[Psychic Consortium]

7. Things that are broken

QUESTION: I hope the things that are broken, the things that are inefficient (like our health care {non}system), and things that are outdated are not preserved as sacred cows. I hope we will be able to, instead of putting more money into things that are broken, scrap them and come up with something that truly serves.

ANSWER:

It will take some time, but the movement is: letting go of outdated, corrupt, broken systems to ones that work and help the American people. And the republicans are sadly mistaken if they think that by taking items out of the current stimulus bill these items will be forgotten. Obama will get them through later.

[Delphinus]

16. Whew!

Thank you!

[Psychic Consortium]

17. Obama's resolve

His resolve can be felt.
Like white hot steel in his spine.

He knew on a spiritual level what he was up against.
And he is prepared to handle all of it.
The nonsense and delays.

None of it will stop him from helping Americans and moving the country forward.
Nothing.

[Delphinus]

19. I can feel this strength,

his resolve, coming through your words, PC.

I continue to be grateful for all that you share. The world is changing and I'm so glad we have a man such as Barack Obama at the helm of our country.

[Psychic Consortium]

8. Response to question about anthrax threats

The anthrax threats have not revealed consistent information from a psychic standpoint. As is the case with most issues related to Bush et al, the situation is always one that is convoluted and marked by a combination of both incompetence and clear deliberate intent.

(As opposed to information received about Obama, which is clean, strait forward and very easily read.)

One PC member gets that the anthrax threat was masterminded by a Bush official at the highest levels. And that the truth will emerge.

[Delphinus]

12. This gives me hope

that those who died by the Bush mis-Administration's hands, whether literally or figuratively, will soon be at peace. When I read your statement, Dr. David Kelley (Downing Street Memo) was the first one that came to mind.

[JanusAscending]

15. To my mind as well.......

One of those killed by an anthrax letter was my former Sunday School teacher from Seymour, Ct.(Oxford) She was 90 some years old, and was the sweetest, dearest person I've ever know. Rest easy Mrs. Lundgren, the truth will set us all free!!

[Cleita]

14. It already sounds Rovian to me, but other people have posited the same. n/t

[northernlights]

20. back when Obama won the nomination

or maybe before that, I don't remember any more (except that it was before the financial bailout mess started in September) I "saw" the election of Obama stimulating a bump in the economy this spring, before another dive. I saw it as a sort of last chance to restructure and prepare for the hard landing ahead.

Sometimes I get impressions like this, but when the time comes there is so much turmoil, I don't know if it's holding true or if another path has opened up.

Does PC see anything near term like this?

[Psychic Consortium]

21. One PC team member felt the economy bump up in the spring

as well. Others saw more flat line.

[Coyote_Bandit]

22. I have a question about the social/political agenda

of the church/christians - particularly fundamentalist christians and the prosperity preachers.

I'm sensing changes here. Some of the followers are going to be deeply hurt financially in this economic downturn. I think it is possible that some within the ranks will challenge the secular agendas of their leaders. I also note that many of the best known political activists of the religious right are aging - and without apparent successors.

What are your thoughts PC?

[Psychic Consortium]

26. Religion

What you are sensing is correct.

As indicated in past PC posts, there is going to be a shift away from traditional man made religion, especially the kind that is hypocritical, dogmatic, controlling, rigid and promotes evil.

The energy just isn't there any more for this kind of thing.

[peacetalksforall]

25. I have lingering fears that we are not through with our former regime. Their bold

and arrogant confidence and the impetus of direction that seemed to have included many, many Republicans who seemed to be 'in' on it all seemed permanent to me at times. I constantly asked how they could take such drastic steps to ruin and mock us and place themselves in their dictatorship role if it wasn't permanent from their perspective.

I know that they constantly chose short term 'solutions', but that overall it was long term for them. I thought no one could be that arrogant in a four or eight year period. I still fear that they will do something that will cause THEIR military to take over. It's one thing we haven't experienced here in total, though there are rumblings - prisons on old army bases, the use of military in so-called times of disaster, but we knew what they meant.

Can they and their international barons really walk away from their version of one world order?

Where is the Illuminati and Tri-Lateral and Foreighn Council going?

Are we free from fear that other more healthy second level pirates aren't going to move in and come up with a pretense to rule?

Or did they finally fail, especially with their secrecy lid being lifted?

Can we really start to heal?

[Psychic Consortium]

27. Major paradigm shift

It is difficult for most of us to believe that we are really going through a major paradigm shift, and the corrupt greedy leadership will begin to dissipate.

Several things have happened. As PC posted this fall, it was seen that this past summer especially, there was horrific infighting within the moneyed power elite. Basically, the world was one big ponzi scheme to the elite. But it began to fall apart once it became apparent they had stolen so much and bankrupt so many. And they had stolen from each other which began to fragment the power base.

Their insatiable greed was their undoing. There was a great deal of behind the scenes infighting that destroyed the power base, in effect neutralized their power.

Also the energy being sent to this planet does not support this kind of evil. It is going to be harder and harder for the second string pirates to be successful. There will also be regulations and a sadder, but wiser populace. And many internal whistle blowers, so angered by what has transpired, are working behind the scenes to clean up.

If it weren’t so pathetic, it would be almost amusing to watch the corrupt old leadership continue to posture and prance as though they still had power and clout. They are totally clueless, and do not realize that they are finished. The show is over and they do not know it.

All of their antics will come back to haunt them. PC keeps wanting to warn them that they should not push Obama too far. It will not be pretty.

[OneGrassRoot]

28. Healers, readers, lightworkers....

I am not a healer or reader, but I work with many in this field. It seems that, while so much crumbles around us (and, even if it is necessary, it is challenging to many of us), they are doing better financially than any other industry I've seen!

Certainly they are living their passion and have been told this time of financial freedom would manifest eventually, but I find it so...interesting....that it's as other structures and systems crumble.

Any thoughts about this, PC? Is it those particular fields of work that shall reap rewards so as not to be so devastated by the crumbling, or is it that these people are simply living their passion?

Or, is this just my imagination and it's only short-term? ;)

[Psychic Consortium]

29. Those who are doing well

PC has felt for some time, that those who have been honest and hard working would fare better than the greedy and corrupt.

And those with a spiritual and moral core fare better in hard times. Their life is not about the material, and the financial losses they incur do not feel as devastating as to others.

Also PC has felt for some time the upcoming energy shift in the American population toward a more spiritual lifestyle, more alternative health, more natural lifestyle. Those areas may be more popular as people see the old ways crumbling, and are in need of direction and help.

Edit to add: It is felt that there will be a balancing for light workers, what they lose during these times, will be offset by some gains.

[peacetalksforall]

35. Thanks so much for sharing and affirming. May I ask one more? Can the

military be transitioned, if that is an OK word to use. We knew early about the Eisenhower warning to us. And it came to pass - military brass big guns conducting wars and campaigns to enrich others (and themselves?) with the help from State Depts, Congress, and WH administrations who authorized it.

What has been added in the last four decades is the news about newer methods of psychological conditioning to harden our kids. Serious experimentation from things ingested, things taught, things used subtlely to erase their original values. Though there may be paradigm shifts, the military is going to be a tough one - so many people still believe in the defense angle and won't own up to the fact that we morphed our military to a predatory force while they successfully got people to still play into their games of patriotism and blame realted to patriotism.

While it seems that right wing no longer claims that the left doesn't support our soldiers as fervently as they were doing it to us, I do notice that it was the Republican Congress who voted most often against the soldiers and vets in bold and subtle ways. The general public hasn't really made a big thing of it.

It seems that not acknowledging wrongs create obstacles for shifts? Or, maybe that is what shifts are all about?

(Sorry if this has been in another thread and I scanned over it.)
And everyone in this country has lost interest in the 4.3? trillion missing from the DOD.

[Psychic Consortium]

36. The military will be moving into the 21st century like everyone else.

The greed, corruption, and mismanagement of money will be addressed.

[FirstLight]

30. Population & the magnitude of it all!

Dearest PC-
While the coming paradigm shifts in our economy and our way of eating and even seeking spirit is changing and you have confirmed that it will continue to grow...
I can't help but onder if it is really possible - when you consider the LARGE amount of peple who are still truly "asleep" and would rather live in consumerism, elf gratification and be manipulated by the shadowy forces because they either can't or won't se the reality. Many Americans (and I am sure a huge percentage of te world) are just plaing lazy when it comes to self-work -

HOW can the farming, food, energy, banking, and other industries really change for the better that we want and that we se - when SO MANY are still so enmeshed in the old ways? How do we deal with the rest of the HERD...???

I guess it is just hard for me to see it in the ollective, It still fels like we are a minority holding the energy for change. Is it REALLY going to happen... and will we have made the huge leaps & bounds necessary to change our entire sturcturing of the way we do things - by 2012 or so?
seems like a short time to get the rest of the humans to "wake up!"

[Psychic Consortium]

31. Some comments on change

Yes it is hard to believe, but based on the facts, the change is already happening in large numbers. The majority of the American people voted for Obama and give him enormously high approval ratings.

As a country America is currently financially bankrupt, and this will force the financial and political infrastructure to change. Much of our past and current leadership is morally bankrupt. The time is ripe for societal change on a large magnitude. Obama is only a part of the change for the better, the shift is really on the part of the people.

The political and financial infrastructure runs on money, and the money is gone.
The people are very angry and things will never be the same.

Adversity builds character, we will continue to have many character building moments.

There will continue to be events which will force the American people to change.

Some of the change will be sudden, some more gradual. As jobs, homes, incomes, are lost, rapid changes in outlook and values occur. People who had jobs with large salaries will not easily replace that income and lifestyle. They will be forced to change.

As PC indicated last fall, Obama will be making far reaching changes, changes that will impact the American people forever in a very positive way.

Whether we are aware of it or not, he is master teacher and teaches us every day how to be a more civilized advanced people.

[Mnemosyne]

32. Thank you for all the wonderful threads of hope, PC.

:grouphug:

[Psychic Consortium]

33. You are welcome. nt

[Mnemosyne]

42. Namaste PC, rest is good. :) n/t

[OneGrassRoot]

34. Indeed :)

:grouphug:

[Mnemosyne]

41. Namaste OGR.

:hug:

[OneGrassRoot]

46. And to you, Mnemosyne...

:hug:

[Mnemosyne]

47. .

:hug:

[Manifestor_of_Light]

37. Re: Gore, the media, the Congress, officials

Because you said that Gore was threatened in 2000, I suspect that many hundreds, even thousands of people in America were threatened because of their apparent docility in the face of Bush's reign.

The Congress, the Judiciary, the media talking heads, other government officials, I would think, were all threatened and/or bribed to do their bidding.

The revelation that the wiretapping in the famous room in San Francisco sucked up every call in the U.S., and that journalists were targeted, makes sense. In spite of massive protests against the Iraq War, and the revelations of lawbreaking, none of the House Judiciary Committee, for example, like John Conyers, have moved to indict anyone, nor have Federal Court indictments been issued by a grand jury.

I am wondering if any of those in the Establishment will change their actions now, or if they are still under duress.

And another question about threats from high places: I have watched the video on YouTube of the Apollo 11 astronauts' press conference -- Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin, and Michael Collins -- and they all look very sad, like they have been pressured. Supposedly, they just accomplished the greatest scientific and technical feat the world had known up to that time in 1969 -- Armstrong and Aldrin walking on the Moon. But they look like bad liars who are struggling to keep their composure. Would this indicate the moon landings were faked, or that they saw many things (such as aliens or UFOs) that they were forbidden from talking about??

Thank you.

[Psychic Consortium]

38. Threats

The threats occurred in many areas of government, military, industry, media, business, science, academia, etc etc.

Subtle and not so subtle threats.

Some of the victims came forward to Obama during the campaign.

It is seen that some duress still continues, but the energy is losing steam for this kind of activity. The bullies have lost their power base and many will be facing investigation or consequences. They will be busy with their own problems. The rest will slink into the night.

Some of those who could do the investigations have their own issues and may prefer to be quiet.


No info at this point about Apollo 11 press conference.

[Psychic Consortium]

39. Closing this thread

PC will take a break now.

Thank you all for your kind words, support and interest.


PC

[Missy Vixen]

40. PC, thank you so much

I hope that all the blessings you've sent out to those here come back to you a thousandfold. :hug:

Your messages give me hope, and I could never put a price on that.

[Sanity Claws]

43. Thank you, PC

You have given us a lot of information to digest.

[Psychic Consortium]

44. Thank you

As always, your support, kind words and best wishes are much appreciated.

PC members are very happy that their work has meaning and is of value to you.

[Digit]

45. Thank you PC

You have given me hope for the future, and peace of mind that all is as it should be.

I looked forward to each and every message, and will be re-reading them over and over.

Namaste

[Psychic Consortium]

48. Thank you for all the hearts!

What a very nice surprise!

PC does have some messages that came through and hopes to
make a post this weekend sometime....

Happy Valentine's Day to All....

PC

[BlancheSplanchnik]

49. again, LOVE your messages PC

they really resonate for me--feels so right

Happy Valentine's Day to all of you...all of US actually.....

:hi:

[Psychic Consortium]

50. Message from Spirit about the difficulty of our path

1. PC understands that many of you have had a difficult time on this planet, especially in the recent past, or perhaps for this entire lifetime.

2. There are a number of reasons why our lives have been difficult. Some of us wanted to be present for the Ascension, this pivotal time in Earth’s history. But it is a very volatile, painful time in earth’s history. The birthing of a new age is just as painful as birthing a baby.

3. Many of us in this life, have chosen to burn off a great deal of karma. We wanted to insure that we never had to come back to a 3D planet again; we wanted to make sure we ascended.

4. Many of us were needed to help, and to anchor light.

5. Earth is ascending to a higher level planet, and there is a great deal of old negative karma floating around from many past centuries that need to be cleared. Some of us volunteered to do that work.

6. Most of us did not understand how difficult it would be for us. Many souls did not anticipate how brutal it would feel.

7. If it is any consolation, the other side does know how difficult it has been for light workers, intuitives, empaths, etc.

8. Due to the free will law on this planet, many on this side and the other side of the veil, did not did not understand how miserable many would be on this planet. That it would feel like the planet and everyone on it was being pushed off the cliff by dark souls.

9. The SOSs from us came through to the other side loud and clear. And some of us who could communicate with the other side, made special petitions to the Ascended Masters in such a way that had to be heard.

10. The Other Side is aghast at the pain level of the light workers on this planet. And light is being sent to us. It is thought that PC is being given information that is to be used to help light workers.

11. Spirit is helping by sending us more light and help. The message PC gets is that the other side feels bad for us, sorry that it has been so tough and they are doing everything possible to lighten our burden.

12. The other side feels we tend to be way too hard on ourselves. They remind us that we are here to learn and grow. To experience all that is, good and bad. To experience mistakes and bad choices. All souls on this planet will have dark places that are part of the expected journey. There is no shame about this on the other side. It is how we mature on a spirit level. The point is to learn the lesson, and to make the changes needed, to move forward the best we can. We are reminded we have all eternity to perfect ourselves, it is not necessary to do it all in one lifetime!

13. Even though it has been very difficult on the this planet we are here for a reason, and we need to stay until called Home.

14. Even though it will be a roller coaster ride, many ups and downs, it is going to be the ride of our lives.... not to be missed. The fun is just starting. :) We do not want to miss out on the best part of the last 30,000 years!

[Proud_Lefty]

51. Thank you so much PC for this

Yes, we are going through an incredibly difficult time right now preparing for the most exciting time coming that could ever be experienced. Talk about worthwhile! We need to be reminded of this often. Thanks again.

[lostnotforgotten]

52. "...the best part of the last 30,000 years!" - I Wish I Could Take Solace In Those Words - We'll See

eom

[Psychic Consortium]

74. PC understands this feeling.

On the human side of things, PC has felt the same way as they receive this kind of material. From our human perspective, it is unbelievable.

This past summer PC had a hard time believing the material it kept getting. The strong consistent messages that Obama would win with a mandate, would trounce the opposition and go on to be one of the best American presidents. That he would be safe, he would be adored by the American people, etc. Incredible amounts of detailed information about the campaign, the election, the presidency.

All seemed unbelievable at the time. But the soul side of PC knew it was true. The human side didn't see how it could all unfold that way. A struggle between right and left brain, soul and human.

On the human side PC cannot guarantee anything. All it can do is say that this is the material received, and then see what happens. PC must admit the information has been correct so far.

[lostnotforgotten]

77. Hi PC - Don't Doubt The Vibes Being Received, That Said, The Last 10 Years Have Been Hell Personally

Certainly not a celebration or a time to revel in.

With respect to President Obama, I believe him a man of integrity and good will.

However, the "forces of darkness" will fight like hell.

As is said, "the devil takes the hindmost."

And that devil won't care if the rest of us go down at the same time.

So, if the last 10 years have been hell personally, the next ten don't look to appealing either.

[Psychic Consortium]

78. PC thinks everything should be evaluated with right and left brain.

That we are meant to use rationality and intuition.
Science and God.

That is the way we are wired as humans.
And we are meant to be no one's dancing bear.
So you are right to question everything.
We do.

PC members tend to be very strong personalities, stubborn and independent.
Trained in rationality and science. At the same time spiritual to the core.
A balancing act of left and right brain. Intellect and soul.

PS Obama is having fun with his opponents right now. It is child's play for him.
He gives them enough rope to hang themselves. They will not prevail.

The next ten years in America will result in an amazing transformation.
We will be a much better society. We had to go almost over the cliff
to learn our lessons.

[lostnotforgotten]

79. Hi PC - Let's Hope For The Best And Wish Mr. Obama Well With His Challenges And Endeavors

eom

[Psychic Consortium]

81. There is no doubt whatsoever, Obama will win the battle.

It is a 100% karmic certainty. Just like Obama winning the election.

It is seen that this is all child's play for Obama. He has done this many times before in other settings. With much tougher opponents than now. What he faces now is relatively easy for him.

Obama is currently having fun and toying with his opponents.
Giving them enough rope to hang themselves.

They have seriously underestimated him.

Actually everyone has misunderstood Obama. He is an extremely complex personality and most do not see all of him.

He is civil, polite, cordial, reasonable, conciliatory. Extends olive branches, asks everyone to do the right thing rather than get into battles. People think he is naive and weak. This could not be further from the truth.

He knows exactly what he is up against. Knows exactly what his opponents are doing and what they are capable of. He is playing them like a fish on a line. Most of his work is behind the scenes, and he is always way ahead of the curve. He is also incredibly strong and determined, and nothing, nothing will stand in the way of him doing the right thing for the people of this country. Nothing.

He will prevail in the long run. He will outlast all of his opponents. He will not tolerate anyone who hurts this country or the people. He loves us dearly and takes his oath very seriously, it is a sacred covenant. And he will move heaven and earth to protect us. But it will all be done in a very low key sophisticated way. His opponents will not know what hit them. They will just wake up one day and find their power is gone.

[lostnotforgotten]

83. "They will just wake up one day and find their power is gone."

I sure like the sound and feel of that!

[Psychic Consortium]

85. For many months now PC has been shown this picture:

Obama holding his opponents in his hands.
They are tiny bugs with their wings gone.

He does not crush them or kill them.
He just looks at them. The bugs are perfectly still
in his hands, not moving, no energy, no wings.

Obama is very big and strong, the opponents
are tiny bugs, who cannot fly or even crawl anymore.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

134. BRRRRRRR! AGAIN!!!

PC, I love these goosebumps I get reading you!

I can feel so clearly that you're right.


So uplifting :grouphug:

[OneGrassRoot]

53. Thank you....

:grouphug:

[diddlysquat]

54. Yes, Thanks for all the encouragement.

[Silver Gaia]

60. From the depths of my being, I thank you. n/t

[Digit]

71. Very timely message from Spirit

Fear has been keeping me from feeling centered and grounded. At 57, it is difficult being a student again with the uncertainty if this new career will sustain me.

What does sustain me are the messages from PC; full of hope for the future and providing the wisdom that I so sorely lack.

I come here for the nourishment my soul sorely needs.

Thank you, PC
Thank you, ASAH Community

:grouphug:

[BlancheSplanchnik]

72. Wow, thank you!

I appreciate these words about our personal paths.

I've often wondered about so many experiences in my life, from childhood on, that have been so painful, so unfair, ---sometimes seemed so useless too, like talents wasted or unable to be used. Never could understand that, for my self and other people too...

I've never seen my personal struggles as anything that helped the planet as a whole, since it's been limited to my own life (and a relentless drive to overcome my traumas and recover). But still, that's mostly been personal work, I haven't been spurred to lead movements for change or anything--haha. I couldn't anyway--I've got ADD and just taking care of minimal necessities is all I can handle --and that, just barely!!

[Sanity Claws]

92. "Tis a wonderful time to be alive"

I was just organizing the house and read a phrase I entered in a journal under November 19, 2008, "'Tis a wonderful time to be alive." I have an Irish guide who said this; at least I think so because the phrase entered my head and just doesn't sound like me. Isn't it amazing how we're getting similar messages?

[Psychic Consortium]

93. The same message is being sent to many.

Over and over again, the same messages.
The Other Side is sending us information and
a life line.

[mysticalchick]

55. The Dean* of my seminary said ...

.... we have all EARNED the right to be here at this time. So, remember that even when it gets hard (and it will, sadly, before it gets better), we are here as a reward for earlier actions. She gave a GREAT lecture on working toward 2012 and what we as lightworkers can do to help ourselves. The biggest piece I took from that was that the body needs to be able to handle the higher vibrations coming and we need to do all we can to assist our bodies with that. Which totally explains my bizarre desire to do the Master Cleanse in January and not only succeed in that but in changing the way I eat as well. Clearly, listening to my body is what I MUST do to be prepared for the vibrations.

(*Reverend Dr. Carol E. Parrish / Sancta Sophia Seminary (www.sanctasophia.org)

Thank you, as always, PC for the info and support. As you can see, it FEEDS us all in ways we desperately need at this time.

[southerncrone]

58. Thank you, PC. You keep me from sliding too far down into despair.

You are correct in saying that many of us lightworkers are in deep pain now on this planet. Especially those of us who are older & have seen the decline in morals, values & kindness over our lifetimes.
I often find it difficult to maintain in the onslaught of all the negativity & evil we now bear on this planet.

To PC & all in the ASAH:
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you! :grouphug:

[Silver Gaia]

61. I hear you, southerncrone.

You've voiced much of what I am also feeling at this time.

I just wrote to a friend that I have been through many 'hard times' in my life, but none were accompanied by such abject negativity and sheer hopelessness in the surrounding world. It was much easier, in retrospect, to keep myself centered and buoyed by faith and hope in the past, even when I had major difficulties in my personal life -- divorce, death, losing my home, having no home, having no money, worrying how I would eat, and so on. All around us, we are still hearing FEAR, FEAR, FEAR... be very afraid -- and it takes great effort to shut out that constant yammering which is attempting to hack away at the very roots of our souls and tear away our anchors. It is a difficult process to hold fast to hope and to see the way forward at this time.

Your posts help with this process, PC. Very much so. I am deeply grateful for the messages from Spirit that you bring to us here. Again, thank you.

I also wish to extend thanks and gratitude to the ASAH community for being so supportive, so filled with love, and for bringing so much healing and joy into our lives. Bless you all.

[HOLOS]

65. Silver Gaia (great name!!) Detaching Verbally from Fear Grid Has Helped.

Proclaim Loudly and Strongly from the IAM That IAM That You Now Totally and Forever Sever All Attachments from/to the Fear Grid!!!

Calling on Archangel Michael and His Band of Mercy to help you cut all those cords
has been so helpful for me. Just my 2 cents....

Yes, fear=false evidence appearing real is stronger than ever.

Our True Identity is stronger than 3D fear...we all need gentle reminding...PC does it better than anyone...we are most fortunate.

[Silver Gaia]

67. Hi HOLOS, Yes, agree. I'm working on it.

;) :)

ETA: Thanks for the compliment on my new name. The credit goes to ASAH... and a few here in particular who helped me a lot in choosing it.

[HOLOS]

59. PC You Are The Greatest Blessing At This Time...Tears of Gratitude n/t

[3littlebirds]

62. I hear you too, southerncrone

It seems so hard lately. But it's all internal. When I think of it, my life is good. But I feel so much pain and internal strife. I feel surrounded by negativity. I've always had such interesting people in my life. Now I'm surrounded by people who I have nothing in common with, and I just cannot relate or even understand them.
It's sad.
PC, I look on this website everyday for a post from you. It really is encouraging.
Thank you so much.

[Silver Gaia]

64. Welcome to DU and to ASAH, 3littlebirds!

:) (I like your name... I have 3 little birds, myself. :D )

[southerncrone]

66. Welcome to DU, 3littlebirds!

:hi:
I've always had such interesting people in my life. Now I'm surrounded by people who I have nothing in common with, and I just cannot relate or even understand them.

I thought it was just me.
Of late, I feel the VERY SAME. As a matter of fact I've spoken to my 2 college-aged kids of this very thing many times lately.

What a relief to know others are walking this same strange path! :hug:

We're glad you are joining us in ASAH!

[northernlights]

63. Thank you PC...

for your uplifting message. Very helpful for many of us, I'm sure. :grouphug:

[3littlebirds]

68. Thank you for the welcomes

I usually read but never right. But I do connect with so many of you. I appreciate you welcoming here.
I get so much from your posts. But I have a hard time communicating what I'm feeling right now, that I just listen alot.

[3littlebirds]

69. write not right

That's why I never write. I can't spell.

[southerncrone]

70. We focus more on content here, rather than formatting.

As long as we learn from our mistakes.;)

[Psychic Consortium]

73. We are all so hard on ourselves.

On the other side, many of the things we fret about simply do not matter.

Spirit wants us to learn, grow, move forward, interact, give and get help, connect, love, be loved, etc. Do not get bogged down in minutia and lose the bigger goals.

PC feels bad that PC posts are not always grammatically correct, and contain poor syntax or wording. That is because it is very difficult at times to translate highly symbolic, esoteric material into human language. And PC operates often with limited time. But PC just keeps plugging away, posting material the best they can. Hoping the message is what will be remembered, not the grammar.

[mysticalchick]

75. PC, trust that we get it ...

... and for what it's worth, the little grammar nazi in me has never found anything amiss in your posts. Truly, what comes through is the high vibrational energy and that's something that transcends anything else.

We are most thankful to have you here with us. It's a blessing.

[Psychic Consortium]

76. :) nt

[OneGrassRoot]

80. Oh my.....

"Spirit wants us to learn, grow, move forward, interact, give and get help, connect, love, be loved, etc. Do not get bogged down in minutia and lose the bigger goals."

Oh my....I've been working on a project for the last year, hoping to unveil next week....a lifelong labor of love really.

As I gather my thoughts to create a video to introduce it, I wrote nearly the exact same word only seconds before coming here to look up something, and saw this thread had additional comments.

Delightful confirmation for me, PC. Thank you. :)

You all will be the first group of souls with whom I share this new creation, as I know everyone here will instantly "get it," without judgment. It simply IS. What a gift such a safe harbor provides.

(btw...I didn't mention it before, but a wonderful energetic opening may indeed be at hand for creations to be manifesting. Believe me, if they're manifesting for me, there is something much bigger going on...lol. I wear many hats -- you can read about me at onevoicerising.com :) -- but a nonfiction book for which I am consulting editor was picked up by a publisher last week; the novel is still in the hands of several biggies, including Simon & Schuster...they've requested "more time," which is a wonderful sign! Even so, I am learning the art of detaching and allowing, with grace. :) )

Back to work.....*poof*


:grouphug:

[Psychic Consortium]

82. The same thing keeps happening to PC.

Says something one day and the next day the same exact words are
being spoken on the TV by one political figure or another.

Feeling like an episode from the Twilight Zone. :)

Congratulations on your successes.
And yes things will be coming to fruition more,
the energy is much easier for us now.

We are going to feel like we have finally found our time and place.

[OneGrassRoot]

84. Yes, The Twilight Zone, indeed!

confirmations (or echoes) all around! :)

Thank you for your kindness and your generosity of Spirit. We all shall continue to express our heartfelt gratitude because you are such a ray of light and hope for us.

[TNOE]

86. I have enjoyed these threads

although I don't post very often anymore, but want to thank you.

I'm wondering about the flight that just crashed, with the 9/11 widow on it. I believe this was deliberate - and no, I don't believe Obama had a thing to do with it - I'm sure Cheney still has connections and the shadow government is still active to a degree.

[Angel Wings]

87. I've been thinking and feeling the same thing.

I was also about to post here about it but you beat me to it.:)

[Psychic Consortium]

88. Recent crash

The first thing that came to PC is that the widow went Home
to be with her husband. And she had done her work, she had turned everything over to Obama. She knew he would take care of things.

Edit: wording

[Angel Wings]

90. Thank you PC

I'm happy to think of her going home to be with her husband.:)

[northernlights]

91. that was my feeling exactly...

She said in an interview that her life ended on 9/11.

I think she stayed here long enough to fight for the 9/11 survivors, until there was someone in the White House who cared and would do the right thing...and then went home to be with her husband.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

135. me too--

I didn't see the interview, but this is how I felt too, my immediate reaction.

Like Mr Obama's Aunt dying --- there too, I had the strong feeling that she knew it was safe to go now, the prize had been won...... brrrr, I just gave myself goosebumps

[Psychic Consortium]

89. Shadow govt

There is a shadow government. Obama is aware of it, and the things that feed it are being withdrawn slowly and surely.

[MorningGlow]

94. Now THAT is the best news I've heard in a long time

Thank you, PC. I must admit that not much makes me shake in my shoes, but the shadow gov't sure does the trick. I've been terrified of it for years. I'm glad to finally be able to put that fear to rest. :hi:

[Psychic Consortium]

95. They have been a nasty bunch.

With unlimited power and money.

It is seen that Obama became aware of them to some
extent while he was in the Senate. And whistle blowers
came to him during the campaign.

This will be a tough nut for Obama to crack, but crack it he will.
Nothing makes him more angry than those who are on the federal payroll hurting the American people.

It is also seen that Americans may never know the half of it...
all work done quietly behind the scenes. Much of what Obama
does is quiet, low key and without fanfare. We will just notice
a better world, more fair, justice and less obstruction and game playing.

More will be accomplished in less time and less cost.
We will wonder how he does it.
Amazing what you can do when the obstructions are gone.

[lostnotforgotten]

96. At One Time I Worked In the Shadow Government - It's Tentacles Are Strongly Rooted

Obama's struggle with the Senate Republicans will pail when compared to fighting the Shadow Government.

[Psychic Consortium]

100. The feeling is this:

The sources that feed them will dry up.
And the energy is not there for them any more.
The people they work for are going to be without power,
or gone.

[MorningGlow]

97. I don't know if you've addressed this in previous posts or not

but were the detention centers in Colorado and Wyoming real? The rail cars with the shackles? The railroad tracks going straight into the wilderness, to the buildings surrounded by barbed wire? It was all so terrifying I tried not to read the rumors online, but it preyed on my mind. It had Cheney's stink all over it.

I trust that, if they were real, they will now never be utilized to hold American "dissidents" in concentration camp-type centers.

I do trust that Obama will get the job done. He does have that energy about him. Thank goodness.

[Psychic Consortium]

101. Comments

If this kind of place exists, it will be destroyed by Obama.
He will not stand for it.

[MorningGlow]

102. Thank you!

:hi:

[rosesaylavee]

103. Good.

I think those that somehow think President Obama is a light-weight and someone who won't stand strong against the 'powers that be' are going to be brought around quickly to understand he can be as steely as he needs to be. As it has been stated before... he really is playing chess while others think the game still is checkers.

And, just to add my voice to the many many others here, I very much enjoy your work and your threads here. Thank you for posting.

[Psychic Consortium]

107. Your Obama comments are correct.

And PC is glad our work is of value to you.

[conscious evolution]

98. Spirit may have taken her home

but the plane crash was not from sinister causes.

I am familiar with that type of aircraft.Its all-weather capabilities are not that good.Especially in icing conditions.I know a few pilots who won't fly them in bad weather because they do not have complete confidense in the plane.
I pretty sure cheney had nothing to do with it.

[Psychic Consortium]

99. Agreed. NT

[TNOE]

105. Wow. Surprising!

Thank you for your response - AND THANKS FOR MY HEARTS YOU GREAT DU'ERS!!

[southerncrone]

106. Forgive me, PC, if this question has been addressed earlier.

I've been watching the past few years as many of our favorite & noble celeberties (from all walks of life) have passed on.

Talk of the 9/11 widow going on to be with her husband reignited this wondering in my mind.

Obama's grandmother passing away at such a critical time for him.
Mark Felts (Deep Throat)
Tim Russert (Democratic Pundit)
Sydney Pollack (Film Director of controvesial subject films)
Sen. Claiborne Pell D-RI (Creator of Pell Grants for poor college students)
Sherrod Brown's mother
Stephanie Tubbs Jones

These are just a few that I could think of quickly....
I have the feeling that they chose to pass over to be of assistance to us here on Planet Earth from the other side. That perhaps they could offer more help from that perspective.

I wonder about Paul Wellstone, Mel Carnahan, & other progressive politicians that have passed on under questionable circumstances. The fact that Mark Begich (son of Nick Begich, who died along w/Hale Boggs D-LA in the still-undiscovered plane crash in Alaska in 1972) was elected in the extremely red state of Alaska.

I felt that they were working to help us defeat the BushCo Cabal.

Is this just my mind's way of trying to sort out these losses, or were they of help in the spirit form?

[Psychic Consortium]

109. Recent deaths

PC has noticed the many recent deaths as well, too many to list easily.

The reasons are varied and not a single cause, but in general tend
to have some relationship to the major changes that we are now undergoing.

Some have finished their work here.
Some are going to help us more from the other side, as you have noted.
Others are not able to handle the increased vibrational level.
Others have been caught in their own tangled web of darkness and see
no other way out.

There indeed has been considerable help from the other side by many:
discarnate beings, angelic realm, ascended masters, etc etc.

It is felt that a great deal of Wellstone's energy has stayed close
to the earth plane.

[conscious evolution]

108. The malaise many are feeling these days

I get the impression it is being caused by counter-measures from the dark side in an attempt to protect themselves.
Any thoughts/insight on this?

[Psychic Consortium]

110. Dark forces

PC saw this past summer, a marked reduction in the energy level
of dark forces. The horrific battle of infighting among
this group resulted in a very damaged and almost nil power base.

The energy at their disposal is being directed toward a desperate attempt at survival, not much left is to hurt others. Also the energy has shifted on the planet, their feeding and power source is being cut.

They are seen as ghost ships floating, just drifting at sea.
Posing not much harm to anyone at this point.

Certainly there is still evil in the world, but the large conglomerates
of evil which terrorize the inhabitants of this planet, have taken a major hit. There may be a few last gasps and wrangling, but nothing of much consequence. We are also quite protected right now spiritually.

It is felt that the malaise in the population you ask about is caused more by the major planetary changes, the energy shift, the major losses and adjustments. All a normal reaction to the massive change underway.

[southerncrone]

117. More about the status of dark forces, please.

The energy at their disposal is being directed toward a desperate attempt at survival, not much left is to hurt others. Also the energy has shifted on the planet, their feeding and power source is being cut.

Do you mean that the people have shifted their outlook, realizing that many of their fellow human beings are suffering because of these evil groups? Or have people become more loving toward one another?
Or is some other force at play?

When you speak of "feeding & power source" are you referring to them feeding off negative emotions that have been instill in us, such as fear, hatred, selfishness, etc....or something else?

What more can WE do to completely dispel them into a place where they cannot gain control again?

I'm sick that we have seemingly had so much of our energy & resources wasted in dealing with them & their schemes.

[Psychic Consortium]

119. All that you say is the case

Yes the people fed the dark forces, and that is changing.
People are seeing the truth every day.

The dark was also fed from other sources not so clear to PC
and more complex.

The planet is also moving at a higher vibrational level and dark
forces are having trouble existing here in the same way.

There is also a great deal of energy being sent to us by various
sources that make it difficult for the dark to survive.

We needed the dark so we could move into the light,
they have served a purpose.

The best thing to do is create an incompatible environment for the dark forces. High vibrational levels, love, wisdom, knowledge, justice, truth, etc. They can not flourish in such a place.

[Psychic Consortium]

111. Over a 100 posts, re-closing thread.

Have been requested by the dial up members of this forum to close the threads when there are more than a 100 posts.

(PC only re-opened thread briefly to add a few comments.)

Thank you again for the hearts!

[Angel Wings]

113. hmmm...well, how about starting a new thread

PC VII.:)

[Psychic Consortium]

114. PC needing to take a break for now.

Several members ill with flu, colds etc.

[Grateful for Hope]

116. Sending healing energy to the PC members who are ill

for a speedy recovery. Thank you all very much for your efforts here.

:grouphug:

[MorningGlow]

118. Sending white light for healing

Get better soon, PC members! :hug:

[Psychic Consortium]

120. Thank you for the healing energy! nt

[Angel Wings]

121. Oh, I'm sending wellness wishes for all members

that are under the weather. :hug: :)

[MagickMuffin]

133. Sending love and light to the PC group

May you each get the deserved rest you need to fortify your strength.:grouphug:

[BlancheSplanchnik]

136. Sharing Images of Yummy Chicken Soup (vegetarian Potato Garlic Soup too)

yummmmmmmmmmmmmmm


:grouphug:

[Silver Gaia]

137. Sending healing energies to PC members...

I've been having internet problems, just now saw today's updates and this message... wanting to add to the energies being sent for healing to PC members.

I am sorry to hear that some of you are ill. Take care and be well soon.

[Digit]

112. Question about the media

Recently I have noticed the major networks trying to undermine Obama and many using the same talking points...almost like Rove was at it again.

Who is it giving the orders and will we ever have the benefit of media being fair again? Wait, do I hear laughing?

As for Rush, Hannity, Savage and other poisonous personalities, when will they go away?

Thank you, PC!

[Psychic Consortium]

115. Media

All is going to backfire.
The public is not going to buy the propaganda.
Obama is taking his case directly to the people.
And they are angry, sadder and wiser.

The Noise and Spin radio will just die out from lack
of interest. Few will listen to them.

[southerncrone]

123. Yea! I'm so glad to hear this! Thank you, PC, for all you do for us here.

Those fear mongers need to be banished. I can see that you are correct that they will loose their power if they have no audience.

I wish all of you improved health & sending love & light your way.:loveya:

[PuraVidaDreamin]

122. Today because of your amazing group I finally renewed my DU membership

I've been following your posts since your groups inception. Beyond fascinating without a doubt.
Your group has made me feel more calm internally. I still, however, am deeply concerned with
drone excursions and rocket blast into Pakistan, and President Obama's position of escalating our
troop levels in Afghanistan and feel nothing good will come from this. What do you sense from
this.

Thank you and
Peace IN

[Psychic Consortium]

124. He is on the right path.

He knows what he is doing.
He is taking care of some things that must be addressed.
And it is much better to do it now rather than later.

At some point, all of this will be more clear to the public.
They will understand what he was doing.


PC is happy that you find meaning in their work.

[OneGrassRoot]

125. Adding my healing hugs to PC members......

with much gratitude. :)

:grouphug:

[PuraVidaDreamin]

126. Thank you. Our peace group has been planning action

regarding this locally. We are so very tired of young soldiers dying for rich men's wars.
I feel confused as to whether or not to go forward on this. A large part of me just can't
believe that the Military Industrial Complex will ever allow this to end. Another part feels
I need to keep our elected officials honest. And I think somewhere deep inside President
Obama wants peace activists to stay active.

You are a treasure.

[PuraVidaDreamin]

127. Hmmmmmm. Now ain't that weird?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5064161

Crazy huh?

[Psychic Consortium]

128. Yes

PC feels that as well, that Obama wants peace activists to stay active.

Obama is working on something specific in the mideast region in terms of military action. He has something in mind he is pursuing, but there is also a complex interplay with the US military he is dealing with.

It is not feeling like a long term drawn out military action, but something strategic and focused with a clear objective. He is not able to tell Americans the whole story at this point.

Obama is basically a peace loving individual. But he is complex and he will not hesitate to bring down by any means possible those who seriously threaten America.

[Sanity Claws]

129. Thank you for your work and words of wisdom

I just wanted to express my gratitude for PC's contributions to ASAH. PC will be included in my prayers.

[more_pain_please]

130. Tesla Energy?

There is allot of talk about different sources of energy coming out, is it time for the Technologies that Tesla (and many others) was working on to be become a mass reality?

[conscious evolution]

131. GE figured out Teslas power system

Don't ask me how I know cause I can't tell you.But have it they do.
Whether or not it is ever released is another matter.

[Fire Walk With Me]

132. Interesting. Tesla's designs would also allow for weapons of great destructive capacity

as well as possible unmistakable origin.

I can't imagine GE overlooking the weapons applications (but yes, can easily see them hoarding and shutting down efficient, inexpensive, clean energy sources).