Is it Physical or Spiritual....?

[FirstLight]

The body...such a wondrous thing. It can perform a trillion duties in a second...and it lets us know when we are out of balance.

How much of it is our spirits processing stuff like past Lives and Beliefs that no longer apply or resonate...?

Today I feel really bad, lots of pain and aches moving through my space, menstrual cramps to top it with a cherry, and a headache that is toying with my ability to concentrate.... Now, I have had long term and genetic chronic illnes, it is at it's very worst these days and I am about to start injections of Humira to get it under control. Just to help put out the fire so I can feel good enough to make the changes I need to - diet, yoga, etc...and I know I have kept it in remission before. I also know that I am moving my vibration OUT of alignment with these old contracts. I may not need to carry the scars of past lives and family beliefs anymore.
That would work for me!

So, my question is this:
where is the line drawn for you of what is manifesting as solely physical, and when do you know it is spiritual in nature...?
I am more interested in your personal experiences, because I get to figure out what my knowing is for me anyway...

just curious on ideas and opinions, exercises to discern, etc....

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. Sometimes, I get inner guidance

either a word or a feeling. I confirm this by using a pendulum. One practice that has helped me when it is spiritual in nature is to use C.L.E.A.R. technique-that's cellular level energy clearing and release. That technique finds when the trauma took place, who was involved, and then asks for help in forgiveness so that the individual can go on. In some cases, the trauma has happened in a past life and it was cleared.

[FirstLight]

2. I know I process alot of stuff physically...

I can see the way that a feeling will ripple through my experience, and I can either have a cough reflex, or a nausea feeling, or another manifestation of a "hit" in whatever energy center I am dealing with ...

BREATH is the fastest and easiest way for me to move stuff...

and learning that I don't need to go "back to see the trauma" or even KNOW what it is...just asking the movement to be the healing and breathing through it is the best approach in my process these days. Otherwise I will hold on to the crud or get "stuck" in the story and not get through the release of it...

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

3. That's very wise

sometimes when I do CLEAR I know what the trauma was; sometimes I don't. But I agree with using the breath--our most powerful tool, imho.

[Celebration]

4. physical vs. spiritual

I've got mine all sorted out with the meditation slideshow, that's really an exorcism, of sorts. All this can be pretty easily determined using muscle testing or a pendulum. Just do yes/no and narrow things down.

[FirstLight]

5. KICK for some more input...

I am interested in how we gague the difference between physical & spiritual processes...
OR do you believe that every symptom or illnes is related to spiritual process, etc...?
AND - what are your beliefs on chronic illness, is it ever something we can "pray" our way out of?

I almost feel like conducting a poll, but I wouldn't know how to frame t concepts...besides, I know how I feel in MY body (my human suit has recently morphed into a pain body!) and it skews many of my beliefs and interferes with the ability to stay centered at times, too...

:grouphug: thanks guys :)