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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 12:07 AM
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Stay tuned. Incoming!!!
The Tower is coming to the forefront. No, I haven't been reading the cards, but things are unraveling and The Tower is starting to come to the forefront in my thoughts even when I'm reading seed catalogs. We are only seeing the surface eruptions of a seething volcano underneath. Dick Cheney is trying to do damage control; Nancy Pelosi is trying to explain herself; President Obama is trying to cover up damaging torture pictures; and so much more is happening that even the complicit media can't gloss it over. The Tower built by the last four administrations is collapsing under its own weight. The fires and people toppling from the summit can't be ignored anymore by those who walk beneath it or they too will be crushed. This is the beginning of something transitional. My guides are actually typing this through me and now they are gone. I wish they would tell me more.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 03:18 AM
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1. It was bound to happen sooner or later
When you have greed and corruption by those in power, the weight of the structure cannot sustain the massive weight, so the only natural conclusion is it falling/crashing down.

Our government has been involved in so much fraud, greed, and corruption that has been covered up, the truth is going to emerge Sooner or Later.

INCOMING!

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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 07:37 AM
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2. Good.
I hope the one thing that topples along with all of this is the greedy insurance companies. I hope the people rise up and demand that single payer be allowed at the table. I almost vomited when I saw Max Baucus and Chuck Grassley and the people in that room laugh when they said "More police were needed". This under an Obama administration.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 07:48 AM
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3. thank your guides for this
It makes sense--it is a part of the general cleansing of the planet, don't you think?
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 02:08 PM
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4. Glad you posted it so I don't have to.
I've been getting this for a while, but didn't want to be the bearer of bad news.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 02:27 PM
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6. I don't get bad news vibes for the ordinary person.
I think the transition will have a positive out come in the long run. It's just that the old order has to come crashing down before the rebuilding can begin anew. It's too bad it has to be this way but the purveyors of greed won't let go to do the right thing so they will lose the most in the end.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 02:34 PM
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7. Oh. Sorry. I now think we're picking up two different events. nt
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 06:40 PM
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11. Agree, Cleita
I think it is good news.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 02:09 PM
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5. Ah, The Tower
On my very first tarot card reading for someone else (after I attended tarot card school :) ), the scenario ended up with The Tower. And indeed, when everything played out, The Tower came crashing down.

I can see what Cleita's guides describe happening. It's spinning out of control and it's going to be quite the explosion.

Thanks for sharing this with us Cleita. Not like I didn't know, but it sure helps to hear it coming from others, too.


Cher



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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 02:36 PM
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8. Tomorrow (May 16th) is a Tower day, I notice.
(The 16th day of the month, the 16th card in the Tarot deck is the Tower.)

I've done a lot of candle blessings for various things and people this week. I might do another tonight.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 03:06 PM
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9. Bring. It. On!
:rofl:

Things have been brewing for far too long, I agree. It's time to give a pull on the steam valve and let loose some of this buildup. I'm all for it.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 05:48 PM
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10. Wow. Members of this group were dreaming about Towers on the Taurus Day
of the 12 Days of Christmas.
Remember this thread (are you paying attention to your 12 days of christmas dreams?)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=245&topic_id=81422&mesg_id=81422
Dover posted a link to Wickfordbard's latest newsletter a few days ago. The last line was:
Are you paying attention to your 12 days of Christmas dreams? They represent the 12 astrological months – they are a prophetic tools available to you during this season of endings and beginnings.


Sun is considered to be in the sign Taurus from April 21 to May 21
Here are the dreams from the Taurus Day
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=245x81422#81424

This boggles the mind.
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Callie McAllie Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-19-09 05:55 AM
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22. Thanks for reminding us about that!
I have been reading "The Stand" by Stephen King, initially I thought because the swine flu made me think of it. But just this weekend I realized I'm really reading it because of the aspect of the old order unraveling, the old power structure coming down. It had nothing to do with the swine flu at all. I felt it was really reading it because of the financial meltdown.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 02:31 AM
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12. I wonder if it could have something to do with the Bilderberg meeting this weekend in Greece.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=245x92004

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x448421#448492

I saw this post last night but didn't post a reply. I guess I was waiting for feedback from other people. Then after I read the two Bilderberg threads I read your post again, and felt strongly that there's a connection.

Maybe THIS time the fallout from the meeting won't be what the Masters of the Universe have planned. Maybe this time it will backfire on them.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 07:57 AM
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13. This is correct. nt
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:40 AM
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14. My taste is whetted
Edited on Sun May-17-09 08:41 AM by Sanity Claws
Tell us more. Please.

Edited to add "please." I do have manners, you know.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 03:51 PM
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15. Hello to ASAH friends:
As indicated previously by PC, political and financial structures are crumbling for the purpose of rebuilding by Obama.

As usual, Obama’s behind the scene activity is momentous and incredible on many levels.

Regarding the Bush/Cheney issue, Obama has known for some time about the Cheney rogue government and he has taken steps to dismantle that organization. Hence Cheney’s public outrage. Cheney assumed he would hold power for a long time and never face any questions or consequences. He cannot believe what Obama has accomplished.

Justice will be served. Obama will set up the framework. However, how it all unfolds publicly is to a large extent up to the American people. Obama puts the pieces in place; the people decide the final outcome. This is their karma, not Obama’s. It is felt that at the end of the day, it will be sorted out satisfactorily.

But the most critical immediate step for Obama is to end Cheney’s power whose tentacles are buried deep and wide. Many whistle blowers have been providing Obama with information since the campaign. He has many internal supporters from both parties helping him to end the dangerous rogue government

Those who underestimate Obama will be sadly mistaken or pleasantly surprised as the case may be. Obama takes the long view and sees the big picture. He wants to ensure that his changes are enduring and firmly in place. So he takes care to go step by step, carefully building firm foundations.

Obama has no choice but to fight in Afghanistan There is great danger there, it is seen clearly. He must do whatever it takes or the world faces grave threats. He hopes to stay focused and strategic and not long term.

On Geither and some of the other appointments: it takes a crook to catch a crook.

Things were much worse than Obama thought when he ran for office.The economy, the corruption, the greed, the rogue government. Much more widespread. Much more difficult then he knew. Those who criticize him have no idea what he is up against on a daily basis.

His enemies would do well not to underestimate Obama; they do so at their own peril. As PC has said repeatedly, Obama’s civility is not to be mistaken for weakness. He gives everyone the chance to do the right thing. If not, he gives them enough rope to hang themselves.

His supporters will be pleasantly surprised. But Obama is no one’s dancing bear and will do things his way and on his time line. He clearly sees where he is going and will not take short cuts or detours if this will jeopardize his long range plans. Obama builds a better country and better world. He works for global peace and prosperity and a strong America. He will not be stopped in his goals.

The people on the DU forum have helped change the world for the better and they do not even know it. The world was at a crossroads. Survival or destruction. And the people of the world decided for survival. Obama represents that change. And those who are frustrated that things move too slowly could not be more wrong. Things are moving quickly, very quickly and all is unfolding just as it should. Time is going by faster, karma coming much more quickly. We have a great deal of help, please know that……

PC to a large extent feels that its job is done. All is unfolding as it should. We move nicely into the 21st century.

Note: PC has been posting to the main forums, all is going well there. These posts will be added to the PC journal if anyone would like to see them.

Thank you for your interest.
PC
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 07:02 PM
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16. A huge thank you, PC, and while you may
feel work here is done, your presence is always a welcome one. I know many here share my sentiments, in the belief that you bolster all of us, and your continued encouragement and insight is much needed.

I hope you will continue to add to the discussions and offer up more, as time goes by.
I'm sure it has not escaped you that the threads you start and/or participate in are most viewed and most appreciated. The road less taken, is the road most needed it seems, guidance is always welcome and continually sought.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-19-09 06:02 AM
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23. Thank you.
PC is posting to the main boards for awhile. These posts are being added to the PC journal here at DU so they can be read by those who are interested....
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 03:21 PM
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26. Thank you, mother earth, for
putting it so well.
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:47 AM
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32. No thanks necessary, Cha, truth flows easily.
:toast:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:07 PM
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36. To
Mother Earth:toast:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 09:49 PM
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19. Thanks PC!
Your posts are so welcome here!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 03:20 PM
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25. I found it! I saw this posted on
another astrological site and I wanted to come over here and check it out.

I love reading your thoughts, PC, and have been looking for them since your last post on DU. This is a Good day.

It's encouraging for me that a lot of people in my life and cyber life have confidence in President Obama to do the job we elected him for, but so many seem to not understand how bad things were left to us and to him and that everything they want takes time.

And, we always have the corporatemedia whose job it appears to be is making more confusion and manipulation.

I don't suppose PC has seen any solutions to the US corporatemedia crisis?

Thank you very very much for your insight. What do you mean by "Note: PC has been posting to the main forums, all is going well there. These posts will be added to the PC journal if anyone would like to see them." Never mind..:)

I just saw where you have a DU Journal..I told you this was a good Day!:D



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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 03:42 PM
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27. Hi
Edited on Wed May-20-09 03:43 PM by Psychic Consortium
The media is already beginning to suffer consequences.
Newspaper sales are way down. The talking heads who sputter nonsense will gradually lose their audience.

More stories will come out that embarrass the media and those guilty of crimes.

PC has a journal here at DU and all posts can be viewed there. PC has been working on the main boards for awhile as an experiment and because the need is great.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 04:24 PM
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28. Thank you.
I have been noting every little clue that the "media" is not doing as hot as they were for at least the last 8 years when they brought us bush and the War On Iraq.

Very encouraging because if we had a press like in the days of Cronkite and Murrow we wouldn't be in this horrendous position now.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 05:17 PM
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30. Yes, the press, like so many others, let down the American people.
But it is karma time.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 08:18 PM
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17. Great thread!
I am glad to read this thread tonight. I keep screaming in my mind that people need to see through the facade of what is around them. It is crumbling. The last time I saw Cheney on TV what struck me was the fear in his eyes. He is a desperate man right now and it shows. And I have been hearing the things people have said in this thread through other people for a while now; a little comment here, a remark there. The statements that strike you and stick in your head. Now the OP of this thread and PC and everyone put it in one place. Funny how that happens.


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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 08:35 PM
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18. a nutshell
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-19-09 05:15 AM
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20. Two brilliant posts:
yours and H2O's. Thanks for linking!
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-19-09 06:14 AM
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24. I second that. :) n/t
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-19-09 05:46 AM
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21. Yes. Well put.
We have been the victims of a psychological civil war started by the GOP for the purpose of controlling the populace. We have been taught to expect mediocre leadership. We have yet to learn the difference between constructive dialog and dangerous childish discourse.
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HOLOS Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 04:46 PM
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29. PC, Wonderful To Find Your Deeply Needed Insightful Wisdom Again:)
To Thank You adequately is beyond 3D capability....

Infinite Love and Gratitude,

HOLOS
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 05:25 PM
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31. Hi
Hi Holos:

PC is adding any post it makes to the PC Journal here on DU, so all PC posts will be in one spot. A number of people have requested this....
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 11:27 AM
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33. Subject: PC, Cleita and everyone: I flashed on this as I was listening to Cheney's speech
Edited on Thu May-21-09 11:28 AM by Raksha
this morning right after Obama's national security speech. So I posted this note on the second Obama/Cheney thread in GD, and I'd like to repost it here too for the record:

No, I think Cheney knows good and well what it is...
This is kind of an intuitive flash based on his speech, so take it for what it's worth: There is SOMETHING that is still classified that he knows about, and he's terrified that it will be declassified and made public any day. It's hard to imagine anything worse than what's come out already, but this will be so ugly, so damning, that Obama will HAVE to appoint a special prosecutor if he wants to retain any credibility at all. And then it's all over for Cheney.

But it's like he's playing chicken, taunting Obama and daring him to release it. That's what is so weird...it's almost suicidal.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

I was responding to someone who said Cheney is terrified that Obama has something on him that he doesn't know about yet. My feeling is that Cheney knows better than anyone what it is, and it's more damning than anything that has come out yet.

Did anyone else pick up on something similar while listening to his speech? Assuming you could stand to listen to him at all.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 11:55 AM
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34. I haven't heard the speech yet as I was sleeping, however, I do
get the impression of desperation from him. I also get the impression that Obama is trying to let events unravel in time instead of instigating investigations himself. I think he hopes others, like in Congress, will step up to the plate instead. I think he will realize in time that this approach is a mistake and that a taking the bull by the horns approach may be a better way to handle people like Cheney.
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skye66 Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:01 PM
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35. I couldn't stand to watch Cheney's speech
Edited on Thu May-21-09 01:10 PM by skye66
but I agree that there are much more disturbing revelations to come, about torture and other things, but particularly 9/11. On some level he must be feeling the breath of the Furies on the back of his neck. Maybe he's already been stricken with madness.

It reminds me of what the Republicans are doing with Pelosi. The last thing they should want is investigations. Obama wants his hand to be forced, and they are playing right into it.
I suspect that there are higher powers at work, ensuring transparency and accountability.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:10 PM
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37. Adding this to the "visionary" thread too...
since we are discusing visions, impressions and such, I think it would be good to add this link to the visionary thread for May 2009.

Please feel free to post any other ideas, "HITS", DREAMS, ETC.... there as well!
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 02:07 PM
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38. i have been saying this awhile, yes.
:) but it's not all bad for the future.

the reversed star of inverted inspiration and guidance goes out; we are left with the darkness and our own bankrupt vision. like the last candle in a dark room, we collectively hold our breath, look at each other, and are forced to reassess. the bounty of the empress will be brought to destitution, bereft of her beloved children, her empire squandered by others' mismanagement. but from that the lone woman will turn from the shattered path of the empress to the path of queen of wands, turning to the young man, knight of wands, to bring forth new shoots of growth built on love and tenderness. that's the end of this major cycle...

but currently, the tower in full swing. the eye has passed, the storm surge comes. little will be left of the vile machinations trying to enslave our king of pentacles into the manacles of materialism/devil, nor can they dissipate his magus energies into impotence -- however, the king of pentacles can only act in certain ways, for the crises are so great. the great institutions must be brought into alignment; those who defy will be brought into alignment with the most level point between all its particles and the ground, so says this situation's gravity. you find the most stable foundation points after the tower has been shaken...
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 12:44 PM
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39. Hi there.
Long time no see.

:hi:
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 04:50 AM
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40. :) it's been too long
:hi:

i phase in and out of here, traveling through the reality streams... :freak:
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