New Matthew message dated July 18, 2009

[I Have A Dream]

http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=104&z=2

[mysticalchick]

1. Even though it was early ...

... I knew it was coming. Isn't that weird? It popped into my head earlier this week and checking the date, I realized it was too early to come out. And here it is. Early. :)

Thanks, IHAD. Appreciate the head's up. Good words from Matthew, as always.

[MorningGlow]

2. Not weird at all--same thing happened to me

Popped into my head out of nowhere yesterday, and I checked the site. Great minds think alike...? :hi:

[JanusAscending]

3. Make it "we three" then.

I've been looking forward to his post since I wrote my Angel essay!

[JanusAscending]

4. Everything he says this month...........

resonates absolutely TRUE with my spirit!!(gut) Every single thing. I have one question though..........when our life contract is over......can we check in "at will" with our loved ones? Just to see what's going on?? I suppose that would be too much to ask.... JA

[Flying Dream Blues]

5. That's my belief, JA!

My loved one in spirits seem to check in often, and always whenever I ask directly.
:hi:

[JanusAscending]

7. I know if my contract ended too soon,

I'd want to be able to check in on my 'crystal boy' and his Mommy!! My beloved husband Russ, checks in often in dreams, but my parents seem to be around only when I call on them. An, "I WANT MY MOMMY" type of call!! lol, ya know?

[Flying Dream Blues]

10. Yep, I do know, since my mom gets those from me once in awhile!

LOL...yep, you have to laugh. I'm glad you have some good visits from your dear husband in dreams. I think each spirit chooses the way that seems easiest for them. I call my son to help me with things at times, and it seems he always does. You'd laugh to know some of the situations, I know I do!
And I can "hear" him answer me. I don't tell many this, since it makes me sound a bit tetched, but it's very true!

[I Have A Dream]

6. JA, have you ever read "Journey of Souls" by Dr. Michael Newton?

(Full title: "Journey of Souls: Case Studies of Life Between Lives")

If not, you may want to check it out. It discusses your question as well as lots more. (Life between life stuff.)

http://www.amazon.com/Journey-Souls-Studies-Between-Lives/dp/1567184855/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1248025997&sr=8-1

Here's one quotation that I got from the book: "Death does not break our continuity with the immortal soul of those we love simply because they have lost the physical personhood of a mortal body. Despite their many activities, these departed souls are still able to reach us if called upon."

It's my understanding both from this book and just my general "feeling" that we certainly can connect with those who have passed over to the other side.

[JanusAscending]

9. Thanks for reminding me about this book!

I think you mentioned it one other time to me, and I was going to see if my Library had it......I forgot to look. I'm making a mental note of it now! Sounds most intriguing!

[I Have A Dream]

14. If you aren't able to get it at the library, I'd be happy to send you my copy.

(You could give me a friend's address to which I could send it so that you could keep your privacy.)

I love this book so much that nobody should be kept from reading it. It literally changed my life and the way that I look at the world. :)

[JanusAscending]

19. Thanks for the offer.............

I'll let you know if they don't have it! JA

[Flying Dream Blues]

13. Oh, I love this book! It really sums up what took me years to sort of

cobble together about what I believed...it's the only thing that ever made sense to me spiritually. To me, it says we choose our lives on earth away from the "real" world in order to grow through our experiences here and yes, our suffering which is made to be so real to us. This means that we are all loved; experiencing pain and suffering isn't about "deserving it" or not having "God's grace", it's about choosing a path that will allow us to advance in our development toward the pure love that is God, or the One, or the Universe. And the book is about so much more, too.

:grouphug:
O8)

Edited quickly for smilie fix and small clarification: added, "To me, it says" so that it's understood this is just my belief, and I respect all others' beliefs as well.

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. I am sorry but HiN1 is not a great conspiracy, or perhaps the

Black Death was then.

Sorry to be a kill joy on that... but pandemic disease has been part of human history from the BEGGINING of the species, and I suspect well before we could find a skeleton and call it Homo Sapiens

Just in the last century we had three of them. They happen. They are a way for nature to control populations, not the powers that be. They also happen among OTHER animal species.

Oh and the Black Death worked wonderfully for the powers that be

It did reduce Europe's population by one third, but it is one of the causes of the Renassaince, and the rise of a burgoisse, aka urban based middle class. One of the reasons, lower population density made labor more expensive, therefore there was a rise in the salaries paid to freemen. Yep, it worked great for control and for profit, absolutely... NOT.

[JanusAscending]

11. WHY DID YOU FOLLOW ME OVER HERE?

Isn't that called "stalking"?? I won't say any more about it, for now!

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. I READ this board regularly and I am commenting on the OP

which says that swine flu is an illuminati originated plot.

Check your paranoia at the door

[JanusAscending]

20. OK.........

this is my second attempt to give some clarification to this mis- understanding. My computer froze up when I tried before. I am not paranoid, just didn't read who your post was addressed to. My apologies, but I do feel like I was just kicked in the stomach! You take no prisoners I guess. JA

[nadinbrzezinski]

30. How did you expect me to react?

Have a nice life

[Matariki]

16. Nadinbrzezinski has been an active member of this forum for a long time.

So have I and I agree about pandemics. I think the stuff about the 'illuminati' is sort of goofy. Actually, since I'm a card carrying member of the illuminati, I *know* it is. ;-)

[get the red out]

15. I am inclined to agree with you on the flu

But why start your post with "I am sorry" and then say "Sorry to be a kill joy" unless the presence of this discussion angered you? It really shouldn't, this is a separate group so people here don't have to toe the line like in GP. That's the purpose of groups.

[northernlights]

18. I don't believe that H1N1 is a conspiracy at all

Having just finished a course in microbiology (including epidemiology), there is nothing surprising about this pandemic except that it is so mild...so far. It is long overdue, as pandemics do occur periodically and have throughout history. They are pretty well understood, and that is why the WHO and CDC track outbreaks so carefully and why they are so concerned about H1N1.

GTRO, I don't attribute Nadia's statements to anger at all. I suspect it is more "English as a second language." Plus she has posted heavily on H1N1 on GD and is seriously concerned at the large number of people in general who are not taking this virus seriously because it is relatively mild.

What most people don't seem to understand is that, in our current situation where microbes swap DNA with ease, it is entirely feasible that this very easily spread virus could pick up virulence factors and become quite deadly very quickly. We are only a few months into its spread and it already has strains showing resistance to tamiflu.

[get the red out]

26. I'm glad they aren't mad about the OP

I am in agreement about the swine flu. My grandfather survived the 1918 flu but his younger brother did not, so I grew up hearing about that particular pandemic frequently, and air travel didn't exist then. Now a single person can spread a virus on two sides of the globe in the same day. Mind boggling.

Whew, I am glad Nadia isn't someone angry that people post alternative ideas here though. That worried me a bit.

[nadinbrzezinski]

28. If I may add a little information to the science here

the 1918 strain did this. It was very mild in the first go around in 1917, and we have no clue what it looked like since there are no samples preserved. (Why I wish they took some from folks who got it now and it is mild). We know what the 1918 late strain looked like since there are samples preserved from actually three patients. Alas they did the RNA tracking on the samples and found that they were slightly different from each other.

Now 1968 is the only time the animal based flu (it was bird) didn't show this pattern clearly, of early mild form and late deadly one. 1957 was in-between but well defined and a strain of bird too. The only other strain of Swine to appear was 1976 and we dodged the bullet on that one, the military contained it very well. Ironically 1918 started at Ft Riley Kansas and the cooking vessel were the transport ships to Europe.

Medical history can be damn fascinating.

Oh and CDC has the virus spread map on their site, and joy, in California is now widespread... aka extrmely common. On the bright side, those who got the first strain in 1918 did develop some immunity and had a better chance to survive it... in other words, they got their vaccine. So if you get it, and it is mild... it's not such a bad thing.

:-)

[nadinbrzezinski]

27. Becuase I know some folks truly believe in the Illuminati

And I realize this will not be a nice thing to say. And I meant every word I said about history and epidemic disease.

Not only was I a medic, but I am also a historian by training and the history of medicine is just fascinating to me. And as an aside I know the WHO has been expecting what is going on right now since I was told this by WHO personnel over ten years ago, as a field medic.

[Bluestar]

17. In this forum, it would be good to preface your post with "It's my belief

that H1N1 is not an Illuminati conspiracy". There are many of us who do believe that mass disease is, in fact, manufactured by the Illuminati. And we also believe that the vaccines and so-called cures for these diseases are also manufactured by the Illuminati to keep us chronically ill and under their control. We don't berate you for your beliefs, so please don't berate us for ours.

Stay tuned. More will be revealed very soon and you might just change your beliefs.

[northernlights]

21. I don't see anybody else prefacing their statements with

"it's my belief." In fact, I see a lot of people here stating "I know" rather emphatically...and based on personal belief systems.

If I remember correctly, Nadia is a professional healthcare provider. In that case her "beliefs" are based on training and direct experience. Scientists have a pretty good understanding of virology, bateriology, vaccination, etc. In fact, any Illuminati conspiracies would likely be grounded in the material world and science, would they not?

[JanusAscending]

22. Don't let this go any further please.

Stop, just stop it!

[northernlights]

23. stop what?

If I remember correctly from GD, Nadia is a medical professional. She will be on the frontlines of a pandemic. The "take no prisoners" style is typical of the field.

She isn't stalking you. And there is no reason for people to dictate to her how she should preface her statements. Everything written in here is presumed to be people's opinions. Why should it be different for someone who writes something you happen to disagree with?

I don't know how long Nadia has been reading ASAH posts. I have only been here a year. I have only seen her post a few times in recent weeks, and nothing was in response to anything you wrote.

Nobody is kicking you in the gut, JA.

[JanusAscending]

24. I see you suffer from the same thing I do........

Not reading something through, before opening one's mouth..that's all.

[northernlights]

25. I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about

I've read through the entire thing. I have replied in light of the entire thread. And I have no idea what you are ordering me to "stop."

I do intend to stop my discussion with you right here. I'm simply going to put you on ignore.

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. Been posting on and off since 2003 when I found it

and if she believes the illuminati are behind all ills in the world, fine by me. I will NOT post IT IS MY BELIEF. Sorry.

Oh and I am a historian by training, and was a medic for ten years... did take a few science classes and if I were to berate people, well I could start quoting from Witches and Demons by Karl Sagan... or a few other things, like my favorite atheists... for the record I do not believe in a god or angels... but I know why people need to belief and that is fine.

But when I post about known science, well guilty as charged, I do have a take no prisoners attitude, and it comes from this little factoid, ignorance of simple things like simple science have killed people. That said, a belief system is strong and can be used to help people. Lord knows I have done that and spent more time than some folks believed necessary with patients. I also respected their belief system, even when I knew it would kill them.

See Jehova's witness that would not accept an IV of water and salt fearing it was blood. She died of shock. Rest in peace.

[Bluestar]

31. I count about 7 posts claiming that Nadine's statements are more accurate

than mine because they are backed by "medical" training. This is my point. Even in this forum, we are presented with so-called facts from the medical establishment that are supposed to dispute our beliefs about the Illuminati because it is accepted that anything from the medical establishment is the truth. I understand it is important for her to believe that the medical community is on the up-and-up, and I am sure she is a well-meaning medical professional. But I reserve the right to disagree.

It is my experience that I was forced to take a swine flu vaccination by my employer in 1976. For an entire year, I had pain at the injection site and my arm felt like it was going to fall off. I know others who also had this experience and I've always wondered what permanent damage might have been done as I have suffered from a series of auto-immune diseases in my lifetime. My understanding is that many people died from this vaccination. I have never taken a flu shot since, and never once have had the flu. So, you see my beliefs can also be backed up by my experience and could turn out to be valid--time will tell.

[nadinbrzezinski]

33. The 1976 fiasco had its own beauts

and I will be blunt, there are some folks who should NEVER, ever get a flu vaccine. There is science to back that up... but usually these are people who have had a reaction to the vaccine... a bad one.

Now I am not telling you what to believe in, but I can tell you this... there are days I agree with Sagan.

[northernlights]

36. Believe me, I hear what you are saying about vaccines...

I wrote 1 post citing Nadine's medical background...as an explanation of her "take no prisoner's style." I see 1 post by me stating my current pre-medical training, as the foundation for *my beliefs.* Anything more than that you are reading into.

There is a difference between believing that mandatory vaccines are due to a conspiracy (which to me is feasible) and believing that H1N1 was created as a result of a conspiracy (which is factually possible but extremely unlikely).

Matthew's message claims that "the Illuminati" are the cause of disease. I respectfully disagree. The "so-called facts" are that:

1. diseases existed long before the Illuminati or any other conspirators; they exist among plants and animals, and they exist among microbes (e.g. bacteria have their own viral diseases).

2. yes, scientists have the ability to splice dna from one microbe onto another, so it is entirely possible for them to have created H1N1.

3. those same scientists know that once a microbe is released, there is no way to control it. Therefore, deliberately releasing even a "mild" bacterium or virus could easily come back to kill the scientist who created it, along with family and friends. So the motivation to *not* create, let alone release, a highly transmissable mutant virus.

Viruses mutate, unchecked, at a very high rate of speed. H1N1 is mild but spreads easily...now. It took only a few months for it to develop resistance to tamiflu. It could pick up virulence factors and become deadly at any point in time.

4. Science is the study of nature. The Illuminati, to my knowledge, do not write the laws of nature. They can control the flow of money, what will be studied and what will not be studied. But they cannot change point #3 -- all the money and mundane power in the world will *not* stop any virus from spreading and mutating, once it has come into existance.

5. The Illuminati also cannot control the education around science. I am currently studying the "so-called facts" of the "medical establishment." If I am taught *lies* as my foundation, I will not be able to perform the job I'm being trained for. There wasn't anything in my school application about kowtowing to the "Illuminati." There aren't, to my knowledge, 2 sets of classes -- one for followers of the "Illuminati" who will create diseases on their commands, and a second for nonfollowers who will rebel. I therefore trust my education thus far to be correct.


I'm truly sorry about your experience with the swine flu vaccine. I personally have very mixed feelings about western medicine, and this goes to the heart of my conflicts over my training in med lab tech, and whether I should switch my major to biology. Among other things, although I want to work in other areas that require the med lab tech degree, getting the degree requires 5 month clinicals in a hospital. That, in turn, will require that I get a host of vaccines I am concerned about, and will expose me to every antibiotic-resistant superbug out there.

Unfortunately, all vaccines come with a risk, and it seems from past observation that rushed vaccines have higher risk than those for which more time is taken. I know for a fact that since my elderly horse has been home and getting only limited vaccines, his health has improved dramatically and in ways that are supposed to be impossible.

I have strong feelings, too, about the excessive mandatory vaccines forced onto children. It's very experimental. The facts are that certain vaccines (such as polio) have done great good. Many other vaccines prevent diseases that already have a relatively low death rate, and they really just change who will die. This is true of a lot of western medicine.

[Bluestar]

37. Thanks for your thoughtful response. I truly appreciate what you

are saying. Obviously there are good people in the medical profession and certainly there have been life-saving advances in medical technology that have helped millions of people. I am saying that we need to be aware of dualities in everything here on the earth plane and it appears that you are aware, especially with regard to vaccines.

I will share what my guides have told me at the risk of being ridiculed (not by you or others on this thread, but possibly by trolls who increasingly lurk here, mostly from Conservative Underground where I have found some of my posts). The Illuminati came here millions of years ago, they are not just the result of a group of knights from the Crusades as is commonly believed. They were selected as high level beings to settle this planet, but they found they liked power much too much and chose to make slaves of the inhabitants of the earth, taking positions of wealth and power for themselves. Light workers have been coming here for centuries to learn how to defeat them but have been unable to do so until now when the energy has shifted.

Because they were advanced beings they learned about the energy of everything earth-based and that includes money. Their hands are in everything of importance on the earth--finance, medicine, business, religion, etc. If it contains power, they control it. They accomplish their manipulation of everything here through energy. They employ a group of slaves to carry out the physical aspects of what they need to accomplish. Many of these slave souls are unaware of why they do what they do, they are just compelled to do it by some force they do not understand.

Earth was created to be a paradise. The stories of the Bible are essentially true--Adam's fall was actually an allegory for the Illuminati's fall from grace to enslave the earth. The Illuminati have twisted everything to make us feel that everything is our fault, that death, suffering and disease disease are "natural". They are masters of turning everything around and of cloaking their identities. They turned religion into making people feel like victims. They turn everything to make earth's inhabitants feel like victims and as long as they can do this, they remain in control.

Ever wonder why most light workers can't make money? Because it's earth-based and they control it. To defeat them, we must learn and shift the ways of the earth and that is happening. We are doing this by raising the light frequency of the earth plane. The Illuminati can't stand light energy, but they rule the dark energy. The best way to deal with them is on an energetic level--turn their own energy back on them. As long as they can get light workers to "hold" their dark energy by feeling empathy for them, they don't have to face their own dark energy. They turn light workers' strength (which is wanting to help others i.e. empathy) into a weakness.

[MorningGlow]

32. Wait...

Nadin, I followed all your threads on swine flu in GD with great interest. I respect your medical background and your concern over how this strain may develop over time.

I also respect your history here in ASAH.

However, I must take a moment to ask you kindly to not conflate people with belief systems with those who do not trust medical science (like your reference to the Jehova's Witness). We here at ASAH have an unfortunate FALSE reputation that just because we have spiritual beliefs, we reject modern medicine. That is not the case AT ALL, and I, for one, would like to minimize the damage of posts that make reference to it. Thank you. :hi:

[nadinbrzezinski]

34. Not conflating it, it is one of many belief systems

and some folks here do not trust medical science. Some with very valid reasons.

Me... would not be here if it wasn't for it

:-)

Premmie... as in really small preemie

[lildreamer316]

38. Regina from Concious Media Network has an interesting blog about this issue.

I know that is not considered a reliable/respectable source, but I would be interested to follow up her facts and find out more.

Just thought some people in the thread would be interested in this - not meant to incite anything else. More info is good IMHO.

http://consciousmedianetwork.blogspot.com/

[northernlights]

39. don't confuse facts with claims

It's very easy to intertwine facts with fiction and, without good sourcing, it's pretty impossible to separate the two. It would be helpful if "CMN" would link to sources for her claims. Also, if you google the sources of her claims good luck finding actual information about them. Eg, A. True Ott -- claims to be a PhD. I'd be curious to know where he got his degrees and in what area of study. He seems to be an "expert" on a very broad range of issues. I see he has a website selling very expensive mineral supplements, on which he falsely claims that we are 70% water and 30% minerals. In fact, we are not 30% minerals -- we are only a tiny percent of minerals (normally referred to as 'trace minerals') and a lot of potassium, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, sulfur and hydrogen (PCNOSH is how we memorized our major constituents in my Biology class). Mostly carbon -- we are carbon-based life forms. Carbon-based molecules are what is referred to as "organic" and are, by definition, not minerals. We do not obtain our carbon, nitrogen or oxygen from rocks. We obtain our carbon and nitrogen from plants, which "fix" them (convert them from gas to solid) from air and turn it into sugar through their metabolic processes. We obtain our oxygen directly from air, not rocks.

(Seriously, it has become all too easy to obtain a PhD these days. For example, I studied hoof trimming 6-7 years ago with a local farrier turned barefoot expert. On the one hand, he clearly is superb at what he does -- both trimming and teaching others to trim. I can attest to the fact that I did learn to trim, I learned a *lot* of very good information about hoof development, growth and care. He also is totally nuts. He recently got a PhD in "Equine Podiatry" or something to that effect. He *purchased* it through one of those email scams from a nonexistant university. :eyes: I could go on about him, but leave it at he is a highly questionable person now, despite his talent around horse's feet.)

[GardeningGal]

40. Thank you for the link.....

I appreciate reading other thoughts on this issue.

:pals:

[stellanoir]

35. Maybe consider lightening up a bit.

Health care can only be fixed after some rather strange contortions.

Immunizations work well for some but not for others. I just know I'll never trust big pharmacy. Though their concoctions chemical cocktails totally work for some.

This is an enormously heated issue. I know about the Black Plague. There is nothing like that approaching.

I was compelled to pray over my son for his mandatory ones many years ago.

He's turned out okay, thank goddess.

Thanks for posting this IHAD luv.

You are the best.

:grouphug:

totally

Don't forget the firethegrid event coming up.

But I deeply feel it's already preordained.

multiple smooches