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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:07 PM
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Yesterday I had an intuition about the 18 minute gap in the Nixon tapes
It occurred to me that technology had come far enough to determine exactly what was on the famous 18 minute gap on the tapes Nixon handed over to the special prosecutor. It also occurred to me that that information may already be present or will be soon for all to see. It also occurred to me that we will find that Oliver Stone was right when he speculated that the 18 minutes contained information that would unlock the key to the JFK assassination.

This occurred to me between 8:00 and about 8:15PM EDT Friday.

I have no idea why this occurred to me.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:09 PM
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1. Thanks for documenting this. We will have to keep our
noses to the wind if this information becomes available but isn't reported as it should be.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:13 PM
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2. It was the strangest thing.
I was actually thinking about some infared technology or something like that recently announced that will allow the viewing of many pieces of classical Greek literature that had previously seemed to obscure to translate. Very odd. Then I thought to post it here but by the time I'd arrived home, I forgot the whole thing...until a few minutes ago.

Hope it's true.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:21 PM
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3. Mike,he always spoke in his own code, though,I don't doubt you're
Edited on Sat Jul-09-05 04:39 PM by Pallas180
right.

And they'll never tell us the truth.

Jackie O made a tape that was not to be opened until 75 years after her death, and I would bet she made accusations and names then. Nobody we know will be alive to hear it, I think, but I'm not that good at math....and by that time, who will care about what it meant to us?

On edit: unfortunately, everyone who was in that room or heard the tapes, Ehrlichman, Haldeman, and Nixon is dead.

Are Rosemary Woods and Jeb Magruder dead? She would have heard them and Magruder ran the tape system and probably heard them. I think Magruder is still alive - but probably afraid if he revealed it he'd end up dead like all the witnesses to JFK's murder.

( I just got a chill on that, which is said to mean "it's the truth".
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 08:46 PM
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6. "...a chill..the truth.." So I am right. I knew it! I have another...
prediction. Someone with the name...hmmm..."passy"...will come here to speak with us.
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passy Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:55 AM
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10. I'm blank on this one.
Just like the tapes.
Likely theory though.
The thing that puzzles me though is why include the 18 minutes at all.
Why not omit that whole section instead of handing in a piece of tape that can be showed to have been erased several times. The erasing was surely done by someone not too technically savvy.
This CNN article mentions the Kennedy assassination "Also on the tapes, then-Treasury Secretary John B. Connally Jr. recollects the assassination of President Kennedy. Connally was governor of Texas and was wounded when shots were fired on the presidential motorcade." http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/02/28/nixon.tapes/
As for ever finding out what was there before the erasure there might be hope because the tape was supposedly erased on another machine than the one that recorded it.

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 04:48 PM
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13. Let your mind float...write some of that great verse.
:hi:
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:32 PM
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4. They tried in 2001, but they "failed" to recover anything,
possibly because they weren/t allowed to touch the originals.
Here's a link to the story: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/07/27/politics/main565298.shtml


"Audio experts trying to recover what was said were not allowed to do tests on the original tape, which is stored at 65 degrees in a vault at the archives in College Park, Md. They had to prove they could retrieve voices from test recordings that have been erased without damaging the test tapes, said Susan Cooper, a spokeswoman for the archives".

Perhaps our grandchildren will find out the truth, but don't hold your breath - I wouldn't put it past the cabal now in charge to destroy them.
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 06:07 PM
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5. I agree but....
I wouldn't put it past the cabal now in charge to destroy them.
I agree with that.

But: They had to prove they could retrieve voices from test recordings that have been erased without damaging the test tapes
That sounds like a smart policy to me. Technology will continue to improve so why risk the tapes now unless someone can prove they're able to do something without harming or destroying them?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 11:30 PM
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7. I would love to know myself
Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 12:00 AM by FreedomAngel82
I think it has to do with Kennedy too. It's pretty clear it's something bad if they were erased. He was probably drunk and talking and spilled beans but wasn't drunk enough to know he did it and not to do anything about it. I've been obsessed with the JFK case for years. I would have loved to prove it someday, but if someone else does then I'd be just as happy. I was thinking about changing my major in college to criminal justice just because of Kennedy.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 11:35 PM
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8. Both Nixon & GHWB were in Texas that morning. n/t
.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 12:00 AM
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9. Yep
Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 12:01 AM by FreedomAngel82
I have a photo of Bush outside a police station talking to some police officers. And Nixon also made reference to something called Operation Zappata and Bush had an oil company down in southern Texas called Zappata (sp?). Didn't Bush leave just a couple of minutes before Kennedy arrived? I also think Johnson was in on it too.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 09:10 AM
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11. 'intuition'. Is that like a 'light bulb' moment?
If forensic experts can recover information from a hard drive that's been erased and rewritten multiple times, why not audio tape?

Intuition--an interesting speculation, where does it come from? How can people know when others who are out of their sight are staring at them?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 02:08 PM
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12. It is very interesting. I think sometimes ideas, events are just in the .
wind, and we sometimes get in the way.

I have no idea what will happen with this. I'm starting to see our rulers like the film "They Live" (lizard people who dominate us with mind control...haha). In my more rational moments, I reliaze there is no reason to underestimate the calumny of deviants of our species.

We'll see but I know it's "time" for the bright lights to shine on the dungeon full of lies we've been fed for so long.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 09:43 PM
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14. " I know it's "time" for the bright lights to shine ...
"I know it's "time" for the bright lights to shine on the dungeon full of lies we've been fed for so long."

O8) From your keyboard to God's ears! O8)

Let it be so.

:kick::kick::kick:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:57 PM
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15. I only hope so
I always refer to that awful day of Kennedy's death as the day America died and we all died that day. Even I did and I wasn't born. Know what I mean? Because this was no longer the America we knew.
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