'2012' Trailer HD

[Pharaoh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz86TsGx3fc&feature=player_embedded



Never before has a date in history been so significant to so many cultures, so many religions, scientists, and governments. A global cataclysm brings an end to the world and tells of the heroic struggle of the survivors.
Category: Film & Animation

[Kookaburra]

1. I'm ambivalent about this one...

We went to see the new Harry Potter film a couple of weeks ago, and this was one of the 20 or so trailers we had to sit through before the movie came on. While action films can be fun, I'm not sure this one doesn't buy into that catastrophic 2012 thing that I just don't think is going to happen. I know it's just a movie, and the special effects look pretty good -- plus John Cusack is rather easy on the eyes -- but I don't know.

[Pharaoh]

2. I agree

I don't see 2012 in that light either.

But then again there may be different future probability's that split at that time. That is what makes quantum physics so fascinating :

O8)

[kentauros]

3. I'm more than ambivalent about this one;

I'm wholeheartedly against it. More bad science just for a little action and to take advantage of yet another apocalyptic vision.

From what I've read of the story as well as what I've seen of the effects, it's not even bad science anymore. It's true fantasy with no basis in anything resembling science, or not with what they are presenting in this "story". How about that impossibly large wave cresting over the Himalaya Mountains? Where is all that water coming from? Not to mention, where is the momentum coming from to propel it that far inland?

If we are to take the plot at face value, then flooding all land masses in this way will leave nothing for the survivors to survive on. No topsoil, no vegetation and billions of rotting human and animal carcasses. Not to mention all the chemicals and radioactivity from all the processing plants and nuclear power stations that will be catastrophically destroyed. They'd have done better to build ships to get off the planet.

So, I have to ask: How many times does the world have to end before we get beyond this genre?

[get the red out]

4. I agree

I hadn't given thought to this particular movie yet, but it seems like just another in a long line of doom and gloom end of the world hopeless scenarios. Some people thrive on doom and darkness, I do not so I am trying more and more to avoid it.

It is almost like "someone" wants us to have in the back of our minds there is no hope for civilization anyway, so why try?

[kentauros]

5. I'm sure there are some that think that way, too.

I was thinking just now that perhaps this is tied to the idea in recent years that the only way to get excited about anything is to take it to the extreme. Anything less is not worth doing, knowing, or experiencing.

That seems to be the defining factor in movies, too. It's not enough to have a good story with realistic and believable action. It all has to be over the top or today's audiences will be bored and not come back for multiple viewings. I have actually read posts on imdb by people for whom plot is at the bottom of importance compared to the amount of action. If the action isn't there and over the top or excessive, they get bored with the movie and hate it. Shallow, yes, but that seems to be what Hollywood wants to sell these days. If we want a good story anymore, we'll just have to look to the rest of the world, like for everything else...

[Fire Walk With Me]

6. Definitely think good thoughts.

There -will- be some who will attempt to use the new energy for destruction, so overwhelm it with the maximum positive love and light, and clear darkness/negative thought forms from the planet every now and then.

[bigmonkey]

7. It looks like they're incorporating element of "When Worlds Collide."

I think, in fact, that they mention ships being outfitted by governments.

I'm also really tired of this "disaster porn." One could even say that American movies are so predictable, the action and drama so exaggerated by violence and disaster that there is no humanity left in the portrayal, save that of the surviving victim. I wish there were films that depicted humans coming together to make a better world, not just save one from disaster.

[northernlights]

8. 2012 is not the end of the world

it's the end of the calendar, and the start of a new calendar.

The movie is just more hollywood porn.

[Desertrose]

9. Yeah, it's what I refer to as "fear porn"....

This movie is just another Hollywood mainstream vehicle to project fear.

Geez...2012 is the end of the Mayan calendar"...NOT the end of time.

You want some info on 2012 here's a link pg 1 and pg 2 to some pretty amazing stuff.

...and the video.

Blessings, :hug:
DR

[SpiralHawk]

10. This film is dangerous fear-mongering. Not what the Maya say

Based on the trailer, it looks like this film was put together by Republicon-minded fear mongers -- and will do lots of harm by stimulating energy-diverting and devouring fear.

Traditional Maya Daykeepers have a different view, and tend to think 2012 exploiters -- like this film -- are dangerous...

Steep Uphill Climb to 2012:
Messages from the Mayan Milieu

"...Other people write about prophecy in the name of the Maya. They say that the world will end in December 2012. The Mayan elders are angry with this. The world will not end. It will be transformed. The indigenous have the calendars, and know how to accurately interpret it, not others...

"...As we pass through transition there is a colossal, global convergence of environmental destruction, social chaos, war, and ongoing Earth changes. All this, Mr. Barrios says, was foreseen via the simple, spiral mathematics of the Mayan calendars.

"It will change," Mr. Barrios observes. "Everything will change." He said Mayan Daykeepers view the Dec. 21, 2012 date as a rebirth, the start of the World of the Fifth Sun. It will be the start of a new era..."

http://www.chiron-communications.com/communique%207-10.html

[Callie McAllie]

11. I'm beyond ambivalent. This just steams me...

My poor 12 year old son, who was in kindergarten on September 11, has spent his whole learning life growing up in the shadow of fear cast by Bush et al. Now this economic crisis. He is understandably a fearful and cautious kid, despite my efforts to shield him from that stuff, to keep things positive, etc. And now this 2012 stuff. Wow. He is growing up in a world that sees doom and danger around every corner. It's got to have an impact.

[MorningGlow]

12. This is GOLD, Jerry! GOLD!!

Yeah, the concept and fearmongering fries my nards, but if I want to have a "glass half full" outlook, I can enjoy the fact that it gives me a fantastic hook for my article on 2012!

[kentauros]

13. Spoilers herein ;)

just in case anyone here actually goes to see this "dreck" ;)

Sorry to dig this thread up again, but I was digging around the messageboards at imdb.com for this "movie" after seeing its overloud preview before Harry Potter. I found the following story about the director and the reason the world is in a global disaster, other than the Mayan connection:

'2012': One final disaster for director Roland Emmerich

In his swan song, the planet implodes.

2012, opening Nov. 13, stars John Cusack as one of 6.8 billion inhabitants trying to survive as Earth's crust collapses and the world's oceans flood into the void.

In other words, more bad science disguised as a disaster movie plot.

If they absolutely must make yet another end-of-the-world movie, couldn't they at least have hired a geologist, a geophsycist and a vulcanologist to tell them what they can and cannot do?!