So, among reasonable people...

[fshrink]

do you think we are cooked? Nobody is going to stand up and publicly contest this parody of an election?

[PassingFair]

1. Put a fork in us.

The few dems I've seen at meetings who have stood up and decried the rigged election have been looked at with derision. It doesn't help that they are the known drinkers in the group....
I refuse to acknowledge * as the president, but then I've refused to call him president since the OLD election.
Someone told me last week that it was time to take the Kerry/Edwards sign down from my diningroom window, and I told them that it would stay AT LEAST until the recount was over.
The fact that we can say I TOLD YOU SO is very cold comfort when I see the distruction of enlightenment/60's values going on around me 360 degrees.
I'm trying to stay out of debt and teach my kids that money doesn't buy happiness. They are so smart that they know that while it doesn't buy happiness, it sure helps when buying groceries or paying the mortgage...

[Beetwasher]

2. Unfortunately The Groundwork Was Laid Quite Thoroughly

The populace is soft, lazy and dumbed down enough to not ask the right questions or understand the answers and implications. Critical thinking skills are, sadly, quite a rare commodity these days. The propoganda and framing of the issues has been mastered so thoroughly by the other side that they can easily dismiss any legitimate questions as "conspiracy theories" thereby immediately and throughly shutting down any rational examination of the issue as soon as it arises.

The people responsible started laying the groundwork for this quite some time ago and they were deliberate and thorough and essentially unchallenged. To counteract it (if it's possible), it's either going to take a lot of serious, hard work, time, intelligence and luck and it still may not be doable. Or it's going to take something drastic and messy, and no one wants that and that may not even counteract them, but rather destroy everything to start anew.

Unfortunately for just about everyone, unless something is done, the only end is a bad one. The current course is unsustainable and can only end in disaster. The only one's who may be safe are the one's at the very top, who have the resources to build their hardened bunkers and hoarde years and years of supplies.

[Cobalt Violet]

3. Yes , we are cooked.

I don't expect that we will have another real election. At least not until we manage to steal a few of our own. And then and only then will the republicant be willing to change to a system that isn't so easy to steal.

[fshrink]

4. That's what I thought...

Not believing makes you more realistic. And I agree with you all. Can you hear the tiny little voice in you that says "Will you come Daddy? Mummy?"

[Beetwasher]

5. Yeah, I'm Hoping For Alien Intervention

That would be cool!

"Puny humans of Earth! Lay down your weapons and live in peace and harmony or Morgol of Thalendria will destroy you all!"

[leftofthedial]

6. They have successfully "sold" the legitimacy of the junta

to the large majority of Murkans. It is only we few who still dispute it.

Most Murkans are dumb, ignorant, deluded sheep. Mobilizing them without the power of the mass media is impossible.