Ruthless Attack Sets Atheism Back 7,000 Years....

[PassingFair]

Yes, I have single-handedly set our "crusade"
back 7,000 years by objecting to a poster's
characterization that only believers can face
death with equanimity.

This is why I stay out of the lounge.

Seems true believers need to find some FOXHOLES,
because they are probably the only places
those pesky atheists don't come around.

I have been with atheist family members at their
deaths, all bravely faced, and this INFLAMED me.

[onager]

1. OK, I couldn't resist that one...

Yawn. Another Whiny Believer thread. Thanks for joining in, even if you did set us back 7,000 years. I don't think those arrogant, bisexual Greek philosophers had even invented atheism 7,000 years ago, but whatever.

"Hey, let's discuss my open-minded, liberal, ecumenical religious beliefs! We can all hold hands and sing 'Kumbayah!'"

"Sorry, but it is strictly my personal opinion that your beliefs are a bunch of irrational nonsense."

"W-A-A-H! The DU atheists are conspiring to kill all the Xians."

Rinse and repeat, ad infinitum...

[YankeyMCC]

2. That's outragous

IMHO it is the atheist world view that better prepares a person for facing their own mortality. But I also recognize that's a bit arrogant of me, I know it works better for me and in a logical and rational examination it seems like the best choice but I can't know what works best for other minds. So I would never disparage someone facing their own mortality by turning to supernatural beliefs.

[Warpy]

3. I've seen a lot of deaths over the years

and the worst ones I've seen, where the patient was terrified, were all believers with families at the bedside holding hands, eyes closed, and mumbling.

I can't imagine living life in fear and dying in terror of a wrathful, judgmental god who holds a grudge for every lapse in etiquette during a normal and reasonably uneventful life.

Believers delay a harsh judgment until they die. We atheists face judgment every time we look in the mirror and adjust our attitudes and behavior accordingly.

[PassingFair]

4. When my father died, he wasn't scared at ALL. He was worried about

...his family, and how they would get by without
his council and warmth and LOVE.

He didn't want to leave us, but he was not afraid for
himself.

BTW, he died after a two-year horizontal dance with
Lou Gehrig's Disease, which he also suffered with
bravery and HUMOR!

Thank you guys for understanding.


:yourock:

[JNelson6563]

5. Even at the end, setting an example.

My dad met his most unpleasant end with bravery and humor too. N'ary a complaint and was just worried about all of us.

You and I are fortunate to have had such noble men as dads. :hug:

Julie

[LynzM]

6. Oh man, that sucks, dude....

Some of us in the Lounge are ok... but like all parts of DU, there's a lot of flamey defensive crap there, too :(

:hug:

Fwiw, I'm with the poster upthread who says that putting off judging until you die is less productive than judging one's self in an ongoing way and adjusting accordingly, and living, as much as possible, without guilt.