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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 08:02 PM
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I have a confession to make.
I sometimes listen to "Coast to Coast AM" at night.

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Well normally it's just something I listen to if I wake up in the middle of the night and can't go back to sleep right off....even the wackiest of callers won't keep me awake...something about the reassurance of the world being it's usual strange self just lulls me right to sleep. (I usually do BBC actually - but for the last month or so I can't take that much real news. Coast to Coast is much easier on the psyche.)

Very early this a.m. though, I turned it on and got wide awake pretty fast.

They had this guy named Paul Guercio on and he was talking very favorably about John Kerry. Guercio has this thing called the "Merlin Project" where they make some predictions about the future based on some numerical analysis. Yeah, I came away thinking it was pretty much mumbo-jumbo, but I really liked what he had to say. Here's an excerpt from the show summary:

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2006/08/23.html#recap

Looking at the world stage, Guercio foresees a problem with North Korea starting now and increasing through 2007. He also handicapped the 2008 US presidential election candidates: On the Democratic side, it looks like Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and Mark Warner will not be in contention, according to their charts. John Kerry, John Edwards, and Joseph Biden all looked strong however, and Guercio could even see Kerry and Edwards being on a ticket together again. Al Gore's chart doesn't ratchet up until 2010, which means he probably won't be a serious candidate in '08. On the Republican side, John McCain's trend lines drop off and don't pick up soon enough for the election.


Unfortunately it costs $ to get the podcast, and there's no way I can report what Guercio and the host said that does it justice. But what got me was that these guys were talking matter-of-factly, calmly, and respectfully - not like typical daytime talk-show yakkers - about the world situation, and how *Co lied us into Iraq, and "you can bet some of this stuff will get investigated if the Democrats win big this year." (They were talking calmly. Matter-of-factly. Not ranting. Not posing wild theories. Just chatting with a demeanor of "this stuff is common knowledge to just about anyone.")

Guercio and Noory (the host) talked A LOT about Kerry and they were saying good things, and you could tell they both like and respect him. (Couldn't say from it that he'd be either's first choice in the primary, but they consider him certainly qualified and viable). They talked about how they expect Kerry to really come on strong in the next couple years because there are so many people thinking he got a raw deal in 2004 and meanwhile the country is hurting because of * being re-elected. Noory tried to get Guercio to commit to whether Kerry would be the nominee in 2008 and Guercio hedged, but he said he thought there was a very good chance of it.

Okay, his analysis may be mumbo jumbo. I'm not ready to buy stock tips from him. But supposedly somewhere between 4 - 5 million people tune into C2C every night. That's A LOT of people hearing some very positive talk about John Kerry and Democrats.

Thought I'd share that with you all. Please pardon me if I don't hang around the thread much tonight - I have some shuteye to make up!


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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 08:08 PM
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1. I read about this a while back
Listen to Sen Kerry's Timetrack from before the '04 election.

http://www.accessbest.com/merlin/coast_to_coast_audio_clips.htm
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 09:47 PM
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7. That was interesting.
I liked where he mentioned the voting machines.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:30 PM
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15. That was interesting
Edited on Thu Aug-24-06 10:31 PM by fedupinBushcountry
and exactly what I had heard. Fascinating.
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Democrafty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 08:29 PM
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2. He's not the first psychic to have said that
JK could/will be President.

Not sure what it means, but it always leaves me with a good feeling :)
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 09:57 PM
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11. Well, the really great thing about this
is that Coast to Coast has LOTS of listeners. :-)

I may put zero stock in the guy's predictions myself, but a lot of those listeners are somewhat, shall we say, "more open" to such ideas. And just the geneal tone of the discussion was so nice after the windbags we usually hear in the daytime.

:-)
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 08:48 PM
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3. There was a mod on the JK blog
that was into this big time. I think it was around mid October before the election or so that he saw something in JK's readings and was really afraid how the election would turn out. I remember him wanting to know the time in which JK was born, he so wanted to change what he was seeing in the stars. I will never forget him telling us about it.

The weird thing was that on the morning of the election had to go work at our polling place at the crack of dawn, and throughout the primaries and the debates I had always worn a special set of rosary beads around my neck and said a little prayer before each event. I know its a little weird but I felt it was my lucky charm for JK. Well anyway that morning I couldn't find them, I was tearing my house apart looking for them, I was so upset. At that moment along with what the mod told us I had the gut feeling that something was going to go terribly wrong for JK. To this day I have never found that set of rosary beads and to this day I believe the stars were right.

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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 09:54 PM
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10. Yikes, that would have upset me too.
(except I'm not RC so it wouldn't be rosary beads...but I can imagine.)
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 01:23 AM
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16. Wouldn't it be weird if they turn up - say in Dec 2007?
I am not a big believer in this. I do think that if many physcis began to say they could see Kerry as President - it could end up being true.

BUT, it might be that the "cause" was that they at a gut level reacted by seeing that Kerry is an honest leader and in a mess caused by lies, you want a true teller who is strong, calm and mature and leads. Their predictions would be following their wants.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 09:39 PM
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4. It's funny, whenever I do 'cards' for the future
Edited on Thu Aug-24-06 09:40 PM by TayTay
I pull up a lot of Kings and Knights. A lot of Kings and Knights, especially the Knight in Flames (Wands). That is really interesting. (Happens once, coincidence. Happens every friggin time, hmmmmm.)
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 09:41 PM
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5. OK, Tay.
What does that mean?
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:06 PM
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12. Hard to explain
Edited on Thu Aug-24-06 10:10 PM by TayTay
Especially from a 'believing agnostic.' Sigh!

Ahm, basically 'cards' consists of 21 major cards, that basically talk about stages in a journey of various parts of life.

The Major Cards, when they come up, are about major changes in life and are the big blinking lights on the dashboard that say something major is up, pay attention. You tend to listen a lot to these when they come up. I do get major cards, The Tower comes up a lot, came up tonight. (This card means that the entire house you built is about to come crashing down. Hmmm, sometimes that is the only way to rebuild, tear down the old one. This is a perilous situation, it indicates extreme upheaval ahead.)

There are 4 minor suits:
Wands (flames and other things depending on the deck used) mean passion, fire, action, inspiration
Swords (which also come up a lot, sigh) mean intellect and trouble (Swords are unavoidable and I really hate seeing them come up. They are the unavoidable things in life that teach you wisdom)
Coins (or stars) mean earthly things, possessions, working, money, jobs
Cups (or water) deal with emotions, human connections, feelings and so forth.

The cards are 'laid out' in patterns that give a particular card a place in which to tell it's part of the story. (Ahm, it's very loose and how it comes out depends on where the cards are, who is reading, and if they have any genuine insight into the human condition.)

I frequently get the same cards showing up for the same people. (Yes, I shuffle them. the n spread them out and pick randomly.) I always get Knights and Kings for Kerry. (Very male.) Knights (translation, jacks in a modern deck) are not yet fully formed expressions of action of a particular suit. A Knight of wands (in my deck a Knight in Flames, depending on where it lands) can be someone who is setting out on a journey and is impassioned to do battle. (Sort of. It's all difficult to explain.) Kings are the fully mature end-game of the suit (mostly.)

Okay? Clear as mud or what?
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:14 PM
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13. No, that's clear.
I get the guy setting out on a journey and impassioned to do battle. So, the King is the end game? In what respect, or is that left to interpretation?
The knight of wands sounds like the Senator. You get that one often, do you?
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Blaukraut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:27 PM
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14. Ha! Try being a non-believing atheist and laying cards!
I actually have 3 different sets of tarot cards do lay them once in a while when I'm bored or trying to make a decision. And, like you, I keep turning up Kings and knights of wands or swords, and often the hierophant. It's actually a little aggravating, because every question I ask leads back to (what I see as) Kerry. lol
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 07:07 AM
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17. OMG, I get those cards a lot too
LevensonK, I swear, I get knight of wands (I always like flames better than the name wands. It's more appropos to the suit and easier to set it apart from swords, which, to me, is the most difficult suit to interpret and read. Swords are the 'trouble in mind' suit and it should show up, hopefully in the rear view mirror, in readings for this someone else. Maybe.) I saved a reading from 6-8 months ago that I did. I will have to fish it out of my journal and compare cards then and now.

The hierophant is an odd card to have turn up and yet it isn't. (No odder than knights of wands and swords together, I guess.) Depends on where it shows up. As a 'what is in the way' card, it makes sense, I guess. (Or as an educational guide, but that probably comes down to 'what is in the way' too!)

We should talk offline and compare notes. It might be fun.

everyone else: http://www.learntarot.com/top.htm There is a leftside menu button for cards. You can then see what the cards sort of mean. Why sort of, because the first rule to read is to learn the cards. The second rule is to throw the book away and see what you see. Sigh! It's all very subjective.

I did get The Fool and the Wheel of Fortune too in a couple of readings. That is actually nice, especially the Fool. I like new beginnings and all the energy of that. Heading out anew for who knows what. (Sort of.)
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 07:12 AM
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18. Thanks for posting that link!
I was just going to ask.

:)
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Blaukraut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 10:48 AM
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19. We should definitely compare notes!
You seem to be more in tune with the card meanings than I am at this point. I still have to look them up once in a while to get the meaning in context.
The hierophant comes up for me mostly as that which is to be released/the left card of the cross. It's an odd card, you're right, but I keep attributing it literally to Bush.
The knights of wands/swords usually come up in position 7 and 8 respectively. And that makes sense, too. Who you are (7), and who others want you to be(8). (something like that)
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 11:12 AM
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20. 7 & 8 are both knights
Hmmm, interesting. (hmm, really interesting, both 'male' cards as wands and swords are wont to be. 7 for a positional meaning of who you are, right now, 8 positionally for oppositional forces. (Hmmm, mind and heart in conflict.)


hmmmmmm.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 09:49 PM
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9. Uh...
Edited on Thu Aug-24-06 09:51 PM by MH1
...scratch that...

just in case you are serious..in which case...what DOES that mean?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 09:47 PM
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6. Didn't really know what to expect!
Glad it's positive!

:)
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 09:47 PM
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8. Heh heh
Sucked you in, didn't I?

:evilgrin:
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