I'm annoyed. Why do people keep trying to divide people and use JK

[Pirate Smile]

for this purpose?

Exhibit A

The Kerry/Kennedy Split on Iraq means "lines are drawn" in the Party.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1546791

I just saw Carl Levin also disagree with Kennedy on this point. Big deal.

Kerry actually agreed with much of what Kennedy said and he said that explicitly.

Exhibit B

Kerry Thinks Dean Would Suck As DNC Chair
by Democratic Dad
http://www.mydd.com/story/2005/1/30/132857/353

This guy acts like Kerry riped Dean during MTP when he did no such thing. He didn't endorse anyone for the position but he didn't criticize anyone. He actually said quite a few nice and supportive things about Dean.

This guy wants Rosenberg for Chair but what a crazy distortion to make and have posted as a diary.

I watched MTP so I know this is BS but it just furthers all this wrong perceptions people believe.

What the F@#k is wrong with people?

:wtf: Why can't we focus our anger at Bush instead of each other?

[whometense]

1. Good questions.

When I have my :tinfoilhat: on I wonder whether these people are dems at all.

And maybe they're not. A lot of the lefties saying stuff like that are 2000 Nader/2004 Dean lefty freepers.

I agree - I didn't hear Kerry say one thing about Dean that could be construed as negative.

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3. I think some people post here that hate the Democrats and the Republicans.

It is the Nader view that there is no difference. Give me a break and go somewhere else if you just want to trash the Dems.

I did tell one person who was doing this who said she was actually a socialist to go form a Socialist Underground.

[whometense]

4. hahahahaha!

Great answer!! Did you get a response??

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8. No, no response. .

[TayTay]

2. But most of the responses to the DKos thread

were in Kerry's favor. I just posted something over there on that thread and I thought the response from posters was mostly positive. The original poster was a Simon Rosenberg supporter and he just misread (purposely?) the whole comments Kerry made. Most of the replies disagreed with his premise. Many posters said Kerry did just fine and were happy that he was not going to go negative on Dr. Dean. It seemed to me as if they read Kerry's remarks today as very diplomatic and fair.

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5. I saw it right after it got posted and I'm not signed up over there to

post a response. I was just amazed at how it twisted what Kerry actually said.

[blm]

6. That mydd post sounds like it was posted by a GOP operative and

certainly not a REAL Rosenberg supporter.

Seems the GOP operatives are working forums to divide the Democrats, even on DNC chair. They never miss an opportunity, do they?

[angrydemocrat]

7. ARRRGGG!!!!

These damn dumbass people around here! They make me sick. :grr: :grr:
Hell they couldn't build a sand castle much less a party!

[elshiva]

9. "Kerry Thinks Dean Would Suck...?"

Kerry never said anything of the sort only that he would work with anyone who will be chair. He praised Dean for saying he was a great campaigner and said he would be competent. He is not in the position to have to endorse anyone.
Note: This use of the word "sucks" is homophobic and I wish people would stop using it. Thanks!!

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10. I thought it was amazing that a "Democrat" would so distort what Kerry

said about Dean. Luckily, we saw it and heard so we know it is BS.

What a jackass!

[elshiva]

11. Yeah, you think a Dem would know

better after all the RW distortion of JK's words.
Actually, Dems are donkeys so I guess we are jackasses?

[ginnyinWI]

12. I think the Kennedy thing is a brilliant strategy--

I posted this in GD politics, but will recap:

Picture this:
"Far-left liberal" Senator Kennedy makes the statement that we should just get out of Iraq (lots of media cover it). The other Dem senators disagree, stating that we need to stabilize Iraq first. Republican senators are positioned to fall in line with the Bush agenda.

Bushco is tempted to cut and run--or to secretly ask the Iraqis to ask them to leave, as John Kerry has suggested to Tim Russert on air today (no accident). If they do, they are doing what the liberal Senator Kennedy wants them to do--can't have that--it makes them look like weenies!

Meanwhile the rest of the Dem senators look sensible by comparison with Kennedy. People listen to them. Some repub senators defect and go along with their more sensible take, rather than the cut-and-run idea.

See? It's all a chess game, folks. What do you think?

[Withywindle]

13. And if anyone has the capital to do it, it's Kennedy

Talk about a safe seat, right?

I hope it is all deftly coordinated--all the speeches, the appearances, the many-pronged attacks, even (especially!) those votes that seem to go the 'wrong' way and get some people smeared all over DU and others put on pedestals. I hope we have sneaky-ass brilliant strategists at work. (I'm liking--not loving--Reid's work so far, and I was ecstatic when Durbin got the Whip gig.)

I can't believe somebody posted that Kerry said anything negative about Dean. That's pure disruption, IMO: dude wants a flame war and knows how to start one, never mind that Kerry said absolutely nothing of the sort.

[ginnyinWI]

14. well, we know we have at least one

brilliant senator at work! :loveya: And I'm betting on the "sneaky-ass" part, too! They do seem pretty well coordinated since Reid took over. Taking the repubs aback a bit, methinks.

And yeah, he never said anything against Dean today, and Dean doesn't say anything against Kerry, does he? These "children" at DU need to just grow up.

[Laurab]

15. I'm convinced some people do it purposely

just to cause arguments. I don't know WHY they do it, but I think they actually search and search for anything they can portray as being negative - particularly in JK's case, but also in many others. Maybe it amuses them, who knows? I know I like to focus my anger at shrub - and he deserves all of it, and more. I do try to avoid those negative threads, but there are so many of them that once in awhile I have to post some kind of response. Really I think we'd be better off ignoring them, and they would fall off the page into oblivion, but sometimes it's really hard to ignore.

[lala_rawraw]

16. because...

they are led to do so by the right and it is spread via left... Kerry is a hero of mine...but as I continue to defend him, I am getting more backlash from the left than i am from the right... it is really very odd.