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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 07:35 PM
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Pundit speculations concerning who benefits from Warner's withdrawal
from the 08 race.

It will be Edwards. No it will be Bayh. No it will be Obama. It will be Gore. It will be Richarson. It will be Clinton... (sorry, I do not have all the reference, but I have seen all these different speculations since yesterday in different columns - Obama comes from the Hotline).

:crazy:

One constant. According to pundits, Kerry is not the one who will benefit from it.

:shrug:

Given the incredible record from these pundits who yesterday were still considering Warner as a very serious candidate with a serious chance to win the nomination, only one conclusion:

This is good for Kerry.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:30 PM
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1. They ALL avoid mentioning Kerry
The proverbial elephant in the living room, except not that kind of elephant. Kerry's the one to beat and they all know it.
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 06:51 AM
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8. EXACTLY right n/t
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:43 PM
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2. Strange also that they think someone will gain
in DC he had a large chunk of the pundits' votes. He never polled above 5% that I know of - so where does he have support that will go elsewhere. It looked here like the air came out of the small balloon months ago, after people ignored the initial hype.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:50 PM
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3. Don't you love it
how pundits include Obama. I mean please, I like him, but he is not ready for the presidency. Also you know I'm tired of all the Edwards talk, you would never think that he also was on the same ticket as Kerry who they say over and over again lost. I'm sick of pundits and polls off with their heads. :sarcasm: I say we take the pundits and pollsters down. Kerry '08.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 09:07 PM
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4. I wonder if pundits will have less and less impact on Democrats
because so many people think most of them aren't on our side. Of those identified with us, the vast majority have a link to the previous administration - which makes them obviously biased with Hillary running.

Now, Olberman is the most trusted - clearly Kerry could get along with a guy who used to be a sports person and who is an independent thinker - he may be the pundit to get.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 09:18 PM
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5. My brother is in the media in N.Y.
and a few days after the '04 election he told me outright that the media was going to push Hillary, he was right. He covered Hillary during her first Senate run and was on the campaign trail with her reporting he did not like her at all.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 09:27 PM
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6. I'm not surprised, Clinton was trashing Kerry within a week
But, remember the media wasn't able to sell Lieberman, Clark or Edwards - all of whom they tried. Kerry got good coverage only as he won primaries. Even then, they fought giving him credit - in fact it was obvious he was going to win on the first multi-state day.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 08:50 AM
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9. He only got good coverage because they had no choice
When Rasmussen showed up in Iowa and gave that incredible story and Kerry was emotional, it was just the moment of the primaries. Joe Klein in his book said it was "suspicious" that Rasmussen showed up when he did. That's the pundits for you -- nothing is real and genuine -- it HAD to be staged.

After that they pushed the phony meme -- total B.S. -- and the rest is history.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:00 AM
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10. One little correction
his name is Rassman, at first I thought you were talking about the polling people. Klein is an ass. I watched that happen and nothing was staged. They use to have the video at C-Span but it is gone now.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:02 AM
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11. Thanks. I knew I wasn't spelling it right, but hoped you guys
knew who I was talking about.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:37 PM
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12. If it was staged Kerry deserves on Oscar
He was very clearly emotionally touched by the reunion. It was a made for TV moment. If Kerry were a media favorite, how often in the last week of the campaign would they have included it in some summary.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 11:52 PM
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7. I agree
Edited on Sat Oct-14-06 12:02 AM by politicasista
I have been hearing that it could be Clark and/or Edwards. (DUH! Have to remember that the blogsphere isn't the real world:crazy: ).


I agree, Kerry is still a threat and they are afraid of him.
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